Best four midfielders to have played for Burnley

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Re: Best four midfielders to have played for Burnley

Post by bfcjg » Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:17 am

lakedistrictclaret wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 7:50 am
Well he seems to have forgotten it.

I read somewhere that Gascoigne can't remember playing for Burnley.
Likewise I'm trying to forget about the time he wandered aimlessly around the pitch,shocking signing by Stan.

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Re: Best four midfielders to have played for Burnley

Post by warksclaret » Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:56 am

Georgiaclaret wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:18 am
Good shout with Djemba Djemba - always looked like he had ages on the ball and sprayed it around everywhere. Loved watching him back in the day.
He was a brilliant loan made by Cotterril when we were skint. Saw him play 3 times and he was a brilliant play maker. Imagine him today playing in front of our back four. Think he had money problems and went abroad after us

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Re: Best four midfielders to have played for Burnley

Post by Hipper » Fri Nov 26, 2021 9:00 am

Martin Dobson
Doug Collins
Geoff Nulty
Ralph Coates

All top division players and in the case of the first three, part of our most successful team since the early sixties.

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Re: Best four midfielders to have played for Burnley

Post by ashtonlongsider » Fri Nov 26, 2021 12:31 pm

Jimmy Mcilroy
Brian O'Neil
Martin Dobson
Joey Barton

I'd have liked to have included Trevor Steven who for me was the most talented young player I saw in a Clarets shirt but he achieved his fame at lofter heights.

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Re: Best four midfielders to have played for Burnley

Post by Cirrus_Minor » Fri Nov 26, 2021 12:46 pm

aclaretinstevenage wrote:
Thu Nov 25, 2021 5:43 pm
O'Neill
Dobson
Coates
McIlroy
Agree with this.
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Re: Best four midfielders to have played for Burnley

Post by Peter Loo » Fri Nov 26, 2021 1:28 pm

McIlroy: for his creativity.
O'Neil: for his aggression, tackling/ball winning.
Harris: for his aggression, tackling and goals.
Noble: for his aggression,tackling/ball winning and goals.

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Re: Best four midfielders to have played for Burnley

Post by Quicknick » Fri Nov 26, 2021 1:33 pm

claretandy wrote:
Thu Nov 25, 2021 4:25 pm
From 88

Deary
Defour
Barton
Marney
How can you include a player that never played in the top flight?

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Re: Best four midfielders to have played for Burnley

Post by Buxtonclaret » Fri Nov 26, 2021 1:50 pm

Vino blanco wrote:
Thu Nov 25, 2021 5:50 pm
Jimmy Mac
Brian O’Neil
Trevor Steven
Martin Dobson just beats Dufour
That's my 4

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Re: Best four midfielders to have played for Burnley

Post by Buxtonclaret » Fri Nov 26, 2021 1:56 pm

lakedistrictclaret wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 7:50 am
Well he seems to have forgotten it.

I read somewhere that Gascoigne can't remember playing for Burnley.

Lot and lots of stories about Gascoigne..
Many distorted or, even made up.
I can definitely find myself believing that one though.

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Re: Best four midfielders to have played for Burnley

Post by Dark Cloud » Fri Nov 26, 2021 2:09 pm

Several have mentioned Paul Cook and although I didn't squeeze him into my 4 I ALMOST did. Absolutely phenomenal when he played for us. Yes, it's all relative because we were well down the leagues at the time, but he completely changed the team with his amazing work rate and no small amount of skill. I often used to say "are you sure there's not two Paul Cooks playing for us" as he was literally everywhere and in a midfielder that is absolutely fundamental. (As well as being able to play a bit!)
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Re: Best four midfielders to have played for Burnley

Post by Peter Loo » Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:21 pm

Cook used to go bright red in the face didn't he when running about I remember, thought he was going to have a heart attack sometimes.

Good player for us at the time though as said.
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Re: Best four midfielders to have played for Burnley

Post by Stayingup » Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:18 pm

Jimmy McIlroy, possibly the best ever, was obviously playing before most posters here were watching Burnley.

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Re: Best four midfielders to have played for Burnley

Post by helmclaret » Fri Nov 26, 2021 7:37 pm

Centrally and relative to the level (and who I've seen).

Deary
Defour
Barton
Cook

Djemba-Djemba surprised me how good he was.

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Re: Best four midfielders to have played for Burnley

Post by JinkingJames » Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:08 pm

In my time supporting Burnley:-

Trevor Stevens
Peter Noble
Kevin Ball
Peter Cook

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Re: Best four midfielders to have played for Burnley

Post by SalisburyClaret » Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:15 pm

Deary
Defour
Westwood
Marney

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Re: Best four midfielders to have played for Burnley

Post by KRBFC » Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:24 pm

Central midfielders or wide players too? if wide players are included, Mcneil is probably near the top of the list since I've been watching. I loved Wade's consistency of getting to the byline and chipping a cross in, nothing fancy but effective. Eagles was very talented, absolutely ran the show at Coventry and Brammal Lane. Glen has to be up there, not quite the same achievements as the others though.

CM's
Barton, Defour.

Marney and Jones have to be up there for sheer service and accomplishments.

I thought Djemba Djemba was an incredibly talented player, hard to put him on a list of best ever after a short loan spell though. Same with Nathan Dyer and a young Jack Cork who never quite lived up to potential he showed while on loan with us.

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Re: Best four midfielders to have played for Burnley

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:36 pm

It doesn't really matter how old you are, if you haven't got Defour in there then you're watching the wrong sport.

Dobbo is a shoo in.
Always like to get Doug Collins in personally.
Never saw him but stats, figures and a stand say Jimmy Mc.

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Re: Best four midfielders to have played for Burnley

Post by Stayingup » Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:51 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:36 pm
It doesn't really matter how old you are, if you haven't got Defour in there then you're watching the wrong sport.

Dobbo is a shoo in.
Always like to get Doug Collins in personally.
Never saw him but stats, figures and a stand say Jimmy Mc.
Defour had that hallmark of top players. Time on the ball to.make the right pass. Sadly his time with us was all.too short.

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Re: Best four midfielders to have played for Burnley

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Fri Nov 26, 2021 9:06 pm

Stayingup wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:51 pm
Defour had that hallmark of top players. Time on the ball to.make the right pass. Sadly his time with us was all.too short.
Aye that's true. Same with Trevor Steven.

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Re: Best four midfielders to have played for Burnley

Post by TheFamilyCat » Fri Nov 26, 2021 9:26 pm

Always difficult to rank players from different eras and especially different divisions. I watched my first game in 1987 so the best players I've seen are all from the last seven years, or 2009/10. But there's no way I would choose Arfield, Boyd, Kightly or Eagles in the wing in front of Super Glen.

For 'best' I'm going for those who had the most impact or stood out relative to the level we were at:

John Deary
Graham Alexander
Joey Barton
Steven Defour

Just missed out:
Dean Marney/David Jones - brilliant pairing so unfair to choose one over the other.

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Re: Best four midfielders to have played for Burnley

Post by turfytopper » Fri Nov 26, 2021 10:02 pm

In my lifetime of watching the Clarets?

Coates, Dobson, Collins, Steven (though he was only really a youngster)

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Re: Best four midfielders to have played for Burnley

Post by dermotdermot » Fri Nov 26, 2021 10:07 pm

JinkingJames wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:08 pm
In my time supporting Burnley:-

Trevor Stevens
Peter Noble
Kevin Ball
Peter Cook
Are you forgetting Dudley Moore?
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Re: Best four midfielders to have played for Burnley

Post by helmclaret » Fri Nov 26, 2021 10:19 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 9:26 pm
Always difficult to rank players from different eras and especially different divisions. I watched my first game in 1987 so the best players I've seen are all from the last seven years, or 2009/10. But there's no way I would choose Arfield, Boyd, Kightly or Eagles in the wing in front of Super Glen.

For 'best' I'm going for those who had the most impact or stood out relative to the level we were at:

John Deary
Graham Alexander
Joey Barton
Steven Defour

Just missed out:
Dean Marney/David Jones - brilliant pairing so unfair to choose one over the other.
Totally forgot about Grezza. Played the holding role in a 3/5 brilliantly.

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Re: Best four midfielders to have played for Burnley

Post by TheFamilyCat » Fri Nov 26, 2021 10:21 pm

helmclaret wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 10:19 pm
Totally forgot about Grezza. Played the holding role in a 3/5 brilliantly.
Very effective and vital in the success of that team.

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Re: Best four midfielders to have played for Burnley

Post by gtclaret » Fri Nov 26, 2021 10:26 pm

Aclaret wrote:
Thu Nov 25, 2021 4:11 pm
Would agree with that.
Me too

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Re: Best four midfielders to have played for Burnley

Post by ElectroClaret » Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:09 pm

Obv Jimmy Mac and O'Neil.
Yes Dobbo and Peter Noble.
Maybe Defour.

We've had some brilliant talent, I'm sure all would agree.

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Re: Best four midfielders to have played for Burnley

Post by Boss Hogg » Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:31 pm

helmclaret wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 7:37 pm
Centrally and relative to the level (and who I've seen).

Deary
Defour
Barton
Cook

Agree with this selection on the basis you state. I saw Noble but too young to appreciate him fully really. The best were obviously before my time.
I did like Marney and Jones as a pairing too. The latter was masssively under appreciated by many imo.
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Re: Best four midfielders to have played for Burnley

Post by dermotdermot » Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:58 am

DAVETHEVICAR wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 7:43 am
Very difficult because I have seen lots of excellent central midfield players since I started watching Burnley
So here goes
Jimmy Mcilroy
Brian O’Neil
Jimmy Adamson
Martin Dobson
Best selection so far.

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Re: Best four midfielders to have played for Burnley

Post by Suratclaret » Sat Nov 27, 2021 6:25 am

Jimmy McIlroy
Martin Dobson
Brian O’Neil
Trevor Stephen

Anyone of those great players would transform the present day team.

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Re: Best four midfielders to have played for Burnley

Post by CharlieinNewMexico » Sat Nov 27, 2021 10:54 am

Dobson
Cochrane
Steven
Noble

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Re: Best four midfielders to have played for Burnley

Post by Sozturf7 » Sat Nov 27, 2021 11:01 am

Jimmy Mac
Jimmy Adamson
Martin Dobson
Joey Barton

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Re: Best four midfielders to have played for Burnley

Post by minnieclaret » Sat Nov 27, 2021 11:03 am

Burnley Ace wrote:
Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:10 pm
Trevor Steven, when he played for us, wasn’t in the top 4 ever.
Snap your white stick and kick the dog. At 16yo Trevor Steven bossed our midfield. Anybody in bother gave it to him and he sorted the problem.

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Re: Best four midfielders to have played for Burnley

Post by Gordaleman » Sat Nov 27, 2021 11:22 am

Clearly this is an age related thread. If you're as old as me, then both Adamson and O'Neil have to be included, but it was a totally different game then, so it's hard to judge in a meaningful way.

Dobbo was fantastic but Defour was exceptional. Marney was an excellent defensive midfielder, and we've never found a replacement for him. So picking the best four is very difficult. Let's just say we've had some crackers over the years.
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Re: Best four midfielders to have played for Burnley

Post by CharlieinNewMexico » Sat Nov 27, 2021 11:25 am

Gordaleman wrote:
Sat Nov 27, 2021 11:22 am
Clearly this is an age related thread. If you're as old as me, then both Adamson and O'Neil have to be included, but it was a totally different game then, so it's hard to judge in a meaningful way.

Dobbo was fantastic but Defour was exceptional. Marney was an excellent defensive midfielder, and we've never found a replacement for him. So picking the best four is very difficult. Let's just say we've had some crackers over the years.
Great point. I think all of the 4 I picked were relegated in Burnley colors.

Defour exceptional.

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Re: Best four midfielders to have played for Burnley

Post by Burnley Ace » Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:54 pm

minnieclaret wrote:
Sat Nov 27, 2021 11:03 am
Snap your white stick and kick the dog. At 16yo Trevor Steven bossed our midfield. Anybody in bother gave it to him and he sorted the problem.
In division 3.

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Re: Best four midfielders to have played for Burnley

Post by Frenchclaret » Sat Nov 27, 2021 6:01 pm

Having watched Burnley for over 70 years I am finding it difficult to name only 4 midfielders. But here goes
Jimmy McIlroy
Jimmy Adamson
Peter Noble
Martin Dobson

Close runners up - Brian O’Neil and Graham Alexander.
Steven Defour didn’t really play enough games to be included though he was a great player.

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