January 2022 Burnley Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

[boatshed bill]

I know. We score when our wingers get decent crosses in - or our fullbacks overlap and stretch defences. We need defences to be afraid of pushing too high too and forcing us to sit too deep. We need to look beyond stats and see what is happening in the way we play at times and finding players that can make those marginal gains over the pitch.

You are not wrong there.

[Kazoo]

Personally, I’d be against signing someone like el ghazi. Will cost a lot because he’s “proven” in the league. Problem is, he’s proven that he’s quite average in the league.

Since we're currently planted in the relegation zone I'd settle for average in the league right now.

[Iloveyoubrady]

By that I mean average for our level. Honestly if we spent whatever it would take to sign someone like el ghazi, when our fans realised just how average he is, some would have some sort of breakdown. We can’t afford to buy players like him.

[Kazoo]

By that I mean average for our level. Honestly if we spent whatever it would take to sign someone like el ghazi, when our fans realised just how average he is, some would have some sort of breakdown. We can’t afford to buy players like him.

Who do we go for, and where do we look? We need another Cornet-style venture but we might need to offload to onload before that happens. Our contract situation is a huge concern before we even think about incomings.

[jojomk1]

Tarks and Mee will be gone this summer if we go down - Collins already here to cover one of them
Still options for a further year on Cork and Barnes (if so desperate)
As for the others going OOC, none command a regular start so would not be missed that greatly
Yes it means we have to replace them but would hope we have ideas on the table
Really can't see any existing Prem club will let players go this Jan apart from maybe Man Utd where Matic or Mata would be decent short term loans
The young cm at City who is getting some game time at mo would be interesting but, we know Dyche will not take such a risk on unproven youth
Newcastle are going to find it hard to bring players in this Jan with relegation looming and they have an open wallet - what chance have we
Only positive is that all other clubs will be in the same boat

[Vegas Claret]

I'd put a bid in for John Buckley from Blackburn just to destabilize them

[Zom Zom]

Newcastle are going to find it hard to bring players in this Jan with relegation looming and they have an open wallet - what chance have we
Only positive is that all other clubs will be in the same boat

Newcastle will almost certainly be looking for players in a different pool to us. We have a decent chance of strengthening but we won’t be looking in the same shop window as them.

[jojomk1]

Newcastle will almost certainly be looking for players in a different pool to us. We have a decent chance of strengthening but we won’t be looking in the same shop window as them.

Correct

My point being that if Newcastle struggle to get players with an open cheque book we, although looking (hopefully) at a different level, will also find it hard to persuade different players to come and join our club in whatever capacity (loan or permanently)

[Newcastleclaret93]

It doesn’t look like they are struggling too much, apparently Trippier is signing imminently

[RVclaret]

Odd move for Trippier. Outstanding signing for Newcastle.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Odd move for Trippier. Outstanding signing for Newcastle.

Can only assume he is just in the bracket below the top 6 teams being interested and teams below not willing to pay the amount required.

Like you say that is a truly outstanding signing for them both defensively and creatively

[RVclaret]

Can only assume he is just in the bracket below the top 6 teams being interested and teams below not willing to pay the amount required.

Like you say that is a truly outstanding signing for them both defensively and creatively

If they can make a few other signings of that calibre (not just big 6 / European cast offs) then it’s difficult to see them going down. Big task ahead though with only 11 points at the half way stage. Plus one of those signings will need to be a striker ASAP due to Wilson’s latest injury.

[Newcastleclaret93]

If they can make a few other signings of that calibre (not just big 6 / European cast offs) then it’s difficult to see them going down. Big task ahead though with only 11 points at the half way stage. Plus one of those signings will need to be a striker ASAP due to Wilson’s latest injury.

Yep I was hoping these type of signings would come towards the back end of Jan. unfortunately it looks like they mean business

[Spijed]

If they can make a few other signings of that calibre (not just big 6 / European cast offs) then it’s difficult to see them going down. Big task ahead though with only 11 points at the half way stage. Plus one of those signings will need to be a striker ASAP due to Wilson’s latest injury.

Isn't ASM out for some time as well?

[Newcastleclaret93]

Isn't ASM out for some time as well?

Couple of weeks isn’t it

[Quickenthetempo]

Tripps was brilliant for Burnley but never impressed me at Spurs.

Not seen much of him at Atletico Madrid but I presume he did well defensively?

He can only improve them if he bombs down the wing getting crosses in like Eddie had him doing years ago.

[RVclaret]

Couple of weeks isn’t it

Yeah Howe’s comments were that it wasn’t a serious one and likely a few weeks.

[NewClaret]

Yep I was hoping these type of signings would come towards the back end of Jan. unfortunately it looks like they mean business

With this one they might have a bit of control if Trippier wants to go and they are willing to pay his £35m release clause. I’ll still be surprised if it happens right at the start of the window though. All the media reports suggest they “hope to” “close in on” a deal. They don’t sound too certain.

If it goes ahead it is a good signing for them, probably a good deal for Athletico and he’ll get a big last contract on money/terms a top 6 team wouldn’t have agreed to. I’m a bit shocked he didn’t see his contract out though, and presumably he’ll also be able to negotiate pre-contract agreements with English clubs from January, so maybe this media noise is designed to flush some of those interested parties out of the woodwork??

All that said, I don’t think Newcastles issues lie at RB. Murphy who always looks solid defensively and a threat going forward (hit post vs Man U, has a great shot on him). No doubt Trippier is an upgrade but not a massively significant one imo.

[Newcastleclaret93]

With this one they might have a bit of control if Trippier wants to go and they are willing to pay his £35m release clause. I’ll still be surprised if it happens right at the start of the window though. All the media reports suggest they “hope to” “close in on” a deal. They don’t sound too certain.

If it goes ahead it is a good signing for them, probably a good deal for Athletico and he’ll get a big last contract on money/terms a top 6 team wouldn’t have agreed to. I’m a bit shocked he didn’t see his contract out though, and presumably he’ll also be able to negotiate pre-contract agreements with English clubs from January, so maybe this media noise is designed to flush some of those interested parties out of the woodwork??

All that said, I don’t think Newcastles issues lie at RB. Murphy who always looks solid defensively and a threat going forward (hit post vs Man U, has a great shot on him). No doubt Trippier is an upgrade but not a massively significant one imo.

Murphy hasn’t played RB this season.

Manquillo is there first choice right back

[Spijed]

Tripps was brilliant for Burnley but never impressed me at Spurs.

Not seen much of him at Atletico Madrid but I presume he did well defensively?

He can only improve them if he bombs down the wing getting crosses in like Eddie had him doing years ago.

Trippier probably didn't do as well at Spurs because the set up wasn't as pragmatic as it is under SD or Simeone.

[RVclaret]

Trippier probably didn't do as well at Spurs because the set up wasn't as pragmatic as it is under SD or Simeone.

Agree. Same as why he’s done pretty well for Southgate too.

[NewClaret]

Murphy hasn’t played RB this season.

Manquillo is there first choice right back

Ah right, I was sure I’d seen him a lot on highlights, etc. Did note he didn’t start against United but thought he made the difference when he came on. Either way, they have good options at RB/RWB already.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Ah right, I was sure I’d seen him a lot on highlights, etc. Did note he didn’t start against United but thought he made the difference when he came on. Either way, they have good options at RB/RWB already.

I would say along with CB it’s there worst position.

If they sign Tarks and Trippier it would dramatically change there team

[NewClaret]

I would say along with CB it’s there worst position.

If they sign Tarks and Trippier it would dramatically change there team

Really? Sure you’ve previously said that Tarks would struggle in a more open team? And you don’t get more open than Newcastle at the moment (or any Eddie Howe team, tbh).

[Newcastleclaret93]

Really? Sure you’ve previously said that Tarks would struggle in a more open team? And you don’t get more open than Newcastle at the moment (or any Eddie Howe team, tbh).

I think they have a similar style to us just don’t do it aswell.

They have a low block and try score on the counter.

[RVclaret]

Really? Sure you’ve previously said that Tarks would struggle in a more open team? And you don’t get more open than Newcastle at the moment (or any Eddie Howe team, tbh).

Bit of a myth that Newcastle suddenly play the most open football in the world. They play pretty much how we do (check out possession stats) and look to play on the break with ASM.

[tiger76]

It doesn’t look like they are struggling too much, apparently Trippier is signing imminently

Decent signing for Newcastle, however I'd love to see the reaction on this board if Burnley forked out £35m on a 31 year old.

I guess the difference is money is now no object for Newcastle, so they can splash the cash more readily than us.

[boatshed bill]

Really? Sure you’ve previously said that Tarks would struggle in a more open team? And you don’t get more open than Newcastle at the moment (or any Eddie Howe team, tbh).

Let's be honest,
You don't have to be brilliant to be better than Lascelles and Clarke

[Spijed]

Decent signing for Newcastle, however I'd love to see the reaction on this board if Burnley forked out £35m on a 31 year old.

I guess the difference is money is now no object for Newcastle, so they can splash the cash more readily than us.

If they are offering that much for Trippier then it sets a benchmark for any fee with regards to Tarkowski.

[Spijed]

Bit of a myth that Newcastle suddenly play the most open football in the world. They play pretty much how we do (check out possession stats) and look to play on the break with ASM.

They still need to stop shipping goals though.

[RVclaret]

If they are offering that much for Trippier then it sets a benchmark for any fee with regards to Tarkowski.

Why? Tarkowski is out of contract in the summer, Trippier has until 2023. Add to that Trippier’s pedigree compared to Tarkowski (full England international, just won La Liga and named in La Liga team of the year).

[RVclaret]

They still need to stop shipping goals though.

I think all their fans agree and that the first area they need to strengthen is defence.

[tiger76]

If they are offering that much for Trippier then it sets a benchmark for any fee with regards to Tarkowski.

If they offered that fee for Tarks, Burnley would be left with a difficult decision to make, sell probably our best player to a direct relegation rival, or let him walk for nowt in 6 months, it also depends whether Tarks is happy to stay and see out his contract with us, his performances recently suggest he's 100% committed to the Burnley cause, but we all know in football money talks, and heads can swayed.

[NewClaret]

I think they have a similar style to us just don’t do it aswell.

They have a low block and try score on the counter.

Tbh, I only tend to watch Newcastles highlights, which probably only shows Newcastles more expansive moments but from what I’ve seen I’d say they play a much higher line than us.

You might be right on the “don’t do it as well as us” point, but it’ll be interesting to see how tonight pans out. I thought Newcastle were quite wreckless in their approach vs United - charging around on a high press, but completely out of shape most of the time. When United managed to escape it they had the freedom of the park (but conspired to **** it up themselves ). I wasn’t really expecting them to score because they were so poor on the night but also thought it was a dangerous tactic by Howe when they were leading for the most part.

We keep in shape but don’t seem to press as hard. So it will be interesting to see how that fares. United wont be as bad as last match, especially at home, so probably not a fair comparison mind.

Back to Trippier & Tarks - don’t think they’d be as transformers as you suggest. Both big players & good signings but I think defensive midfield and a clinical striker would be where I’d looking. Same as us really.

[Newcastleclaret93]

If they are offering that much for Trippier then it sets a benchmark for any fee with regards to Tarkowski.

One just got in the la liga team of the season after winning the league and the other has 6 months left on his contract after playing for one of the worst teams in the premier league for the last 12 months.

Absolutely nothing to benchmark.

I don’t believe newcastle have hit the 35m fee, it’s less than that according to the usual suspects on Twitter.

[NewClaret]

Decent signing for Newcastle, however I'd love to see the reaction on this board if Burnley forked out £35m on a 31 year old.

I guess the difference is money is now no object for Newcastle, so they can splash the cash more readily than us.

If we signed a defender turning 32 next year on a free would be complete outrage on here

[tiger76]

If we signed a defender turning 32 next year on a free would be complete outrage on here

Yep!

[Spijed]

If we signed a defender turning 32 next year on a free would be complete outrage on here

Indeed

[Newcastleclaret93]

If we signed a defender turning 32 next year on a free would be complete outrage on here

I think it depends are you signing a 32 year old La Liga team of the season player or you signing a relegation candidates reserve players.

Big difference in my opinion. Trippier would be an awesome signing for us

[IanMcL]

Newcastle will almost certainly be looking for players in a different pool to us. We have a decent chance of strengthening but we won’t be looking in the same shop window as them.

I think Newcastle could 'over buy' and wreck the spirit of their squad.

Fingers crossed!

[Iloveyoubrady]

Good player, but I really don’t see how trippier does anything to keep them up. Not great defensively, which is what they struggle with...

[randomclaret2]

I think Newcastle could 'over buy' and wreck the spirit of their squad.

Fingers crossed!

The spirit of their squad is working a treat so far

[RVclaret]

Good player, but I really don’t see how trippier does anything to keep them up. Not great defensively, which is what they struggle with...

Rubbish - he’s been a rock for Athletico under Simeone and was solid for us. Southgate started him at the Euros several times for this reason.

[IanMcL]

They locked together the other night. Hope they can't sustain it.

[RVclaret]

I reckon instead of worrying about how many goals Newcastle concede, score and who their manager is, we should worry about ourselves having won just one game all season and needing another 29 points from 23 games to guarantee safety.

[Spijed]

Rubbish - he’s been a rock for Athletico under Simeone and was solid for us. Southgate started him at the Euros several times for this reason.

The question is can he play as well under Howe who has never had the same defensive discipline?

[Iloveyoubrady]

Rubbish - he’s been a rock for Athletico under Simeone and was solid for us. Southgate started him at the Euros several times for this reason.

Not saying he can’t be good defensively, what I mean is he isn’t going to sort out their defence.

[tiger76]

I reckon instead of worrying about how many goals Newcastle concede, score and who their manager is, we should worry about ourselves having won just one game all season and needing another 29 points from 23 games to guarantee safety.

Indeed we need to sort our own house first before worrying about what others are doing.

However I very much doubt it'll require 40 points to ensure survival looking at points total of the bottom 5.

And 40 points is rarely needed in any given season, 7-8 wins and the odd draw and we'll be fine.

[Woodleyclaret]

Why are we filing this thread with shite about Newcastle and Burnley failure Eddie Howe

[ClaretAL]

Looks like we are playing hardball if this is anything to go by...


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