Fans turning on Pace?

[joey13]

so you've no reason then. What in their (not there) history do you find an issue with ? I'm assuming you weren't at the contract signing when the club swapped hands so you've as much idea as the rest of us as to the ins and outs of the deal

Listen to Simon Jordan on the takeover

[Vegas Claret]

This is a white flag to our PL status that money won’t be reinvested it’s reducing the debt to a sinking ship.

you are literally making stuff up, but carry on it's most irrational

[Vegas Claret]

Listen to Simon Jordan on the takeover

I have, I think I may have even posted his talksport piece on here. Lots of if, buts and maybes because like all of us he doesn't' know the ins and outs, just pure conjecture which is all any of us can do.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

So you really think I am the only fan doesn’t like Pace?

You come across a bit like Jed Maxwell from Alan Partridge.

[Barlickclaret]

I think we should just get off Pace’s back at the moment , we will have a better feel for things at the end of January

Get off pace,s back,, wow, the bloke as just sold our main striker to our rivals for the drop, and not replaced him as yet, we also find ourselves in debt again, what good as come from the new owners taking over.

[joey13]

I have, I think I may have even posted his talksport piece on here. Lots of if, buts and maybes because like all of us he doesn't' know the ins and outs, just pure conjecture which is all any of us can do.

He knows more than any of us

[GodIsADeeJay81]

I was right about Brownhill. Let’s hope I’m wrong about pace haha

What did you get right about Brownhill?
He's a solid player for us, we've probably missed him whilst out.

[Newcastleclaret93]

What did you get right about Brownhill?
He's a solid player for us, we've probably missed him whilst out.

Not being good enough for this level. It is clear to anyone with eyes.

[matucana]

Mr Pace will be aware of any urgent financial pressures that may be facing the Club. The Club's Accounts have a closure date of 31st December 2021 and early indications as to overall performance for the year will now be known. Also there is the outstanding matter of the settlement of MG and JB initial shareholdings that have run on for twelve months, as well as all of the minor shareholders who are currently are awaiting settlement of their cash/voucher offer.

[Vegas Claret]

He knows more than any of us

I don't mind him and would agree - but again, he wasn't at the table so I'm not arsed either way. I've not personally seen anything yet that would make me judge Pace negatively - if that changes then so be it, lets hope for all of us that that isn't the case. People are judging him far too quickly and with no factual rationale

[AlargeClaret]

Nope never been Dyche out and never said a new manager would work miracles. I have actually stated numerous times in Dyche in.

So this post is just a straight lie.

My apologies , must be someone else, though don’t get your knickers in a twist luv

[ClaretTony]

Mr Pace will be aware of any urgent financial pressures that may be facing the Club. The Club's Accounts have a closure date of 31st December 2021 and early indications as to overall performance for the year will now be known. Also there is the outstanding matter of the settlement of MG and JB initial shareholdings that have run on for twelve months, as well as all of the minor shareholders who are currently are awaiting settlement of their cash/voucher offer.

Don’t they have until end of March to publish the accounts?

[Andreshotboots]

Wonder if the gaffer really did have Covid on Saturday or if he's had a massive bust up with Mr Pace as he was about to sanction the sale of his best striker?

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Not being good enough for this level. It is clear to anyone with eyes.

You should clean and dry yours.

He's perfectly fine at this level for us, so tell me again what have you gotten right about him?
From what I've seen, it's not a lot.

[tiger76]

Turn on him? The man’s a bloody magician if he’s got £25m for Chris Wood.

TBF getting top dollar for outgoings is one of the things BFC is good at.

I'll judge Pace on his actions, not overly fussed about Wood going, if he wants out than au revoir, we only want people who want to be here, and for £25m we'd be to turn that kind of fee down, release or no release clause.

Plus Wood simply hasn't looked remotely like his usual self this season, and his demeanour suggested he wasn't happy.

I thought folks wanted the average age of the squad lowering, so assuming this deal goes through, and we recruit a couple of younger hungry forwards, that's fine by me.

Bigger names than Chris Wood have left Burnley, and we've coped, so he'll not be missed as much as many might think, especially given his current wretched form.

[Newcastleclaret93]

You should clean and dry yours.

He's perfectly fine at this level for us, so tell me again what have you gotten right about him?
From what I've seen, it's not a lot.

Come on you can’t be saying Brownhill is a premier league quality Cm.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

I don't mind him and would agree - but again, he wasn't at the table so I'm not arsed either way. I've not personally seen anything yet that would make me judge Pace negatively - if that changes then so be it, lets hope for all of us that that isn't the case. People are judging him far too quickly and with no factual rationale

He doesn't like how our takeover was done, primarily due to the size of our club, with its low turnover.
He doesn't think it's sustainable as we are.

He does generally get his point across in a well reasoned manner.

You're correct that he won't know all the details and is working with what he's seen, which is the same as the rest of us.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Don’t they have until end of March to publish the accounts?

I thought it was until March as well?

[joey13]

I don't mind him and would agree - but again, he wasn't at the table so I'm not arsed either way. I've not personally seen anything yet that would make me judge Pace negatively - if that changes then so be it, lets hope for all of us that that isn't the case. People are judging him far too quickly and with no factual rationale

I hope I’m wrong , I just don’t trust him or the sale

[taio]

Come on you can’t be saying Brownhill is a premier league quality Cm.

You've referred to him as League 1 standard through your perpetual agenda driven nonsense. My favorite though was when you described Collins as bambi on ice.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Come on you can’t be saying Brownhill is a premier league quality Cm.

Premier League quality is a wide ranging spectrum though.

I've seen numerous comments tonight on twitter stating that Wood isn't a PL quality striker, would you agree with that?

PL quality for me is someone who's regularly playing at this level and continues to do so.
When we signed Westwood there were certainly a number of Burnley fans who didn't rate him as PL quality, thought we'd overpaid at £5 million for him, yet now he's a key player.

Brownhill will continue to improve the longer he's in the PL because that sort of thing does happen you know.

Any player we sign from the championship isn't guaranteed to be instant PL quality, no one could predict Wood was going to score a minimum of 10 goals a season yet here we are.

[Newcastleclaret93]

You've referred to him as League 1 standard through your perpetual agenda driven nonsense. My favorite though was when you described Collins as bambi on ice.

I think your mistaken.

I have referred to Brownhill as championship quality.

Still not convinced by Collins tbh. Had one very good game and the ones I thought his positioning was suspect. However he’s very young and has shown enough to suggest he will be good.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Premier League quality is a wide ranging spectrum though.

I've seen numerous comments tonight on twitter stating that Wood isn't a PL quality striker, would you agree with that?

PL quality for me is someone who's regularly playing at this level and continues to do so.
When we signed Westwood there were certainly a number of Burnley fans who didn't rate him as PL quality, thought we'd overpaid at £5 million for him, yet now he's a key player.

Brownhill will continue to improve the longer he's in the PL because that sort of thing does happen you know.

Any player we sign from the championship isn't guaranteed to be instant PL quality, no one could predict Wood was going to score a minimum of 10 goals a season yet here we are.

Wood is one of our only premier league quality players. Losing him at this time of year to a relegation rival is criminal.

Unless we make three top signings this window now, Pace has failed his duty’s.

[elwaclaret]

Don’t they have until end of March to publish the accounts?

Think you have a choice. But accounts have to be in by 31st December for previous years accounts, not this years. The end of March remains year end, so accounts run April to April but need to be in at HMRC by January (up to the previous April 2021) or fines will be issued.

[Milltown1882]

Think you have a choice. But accounts have to be in by 31st December for previous years accounts, not this years. The end of March remains year end, so accounts run April to April but need to be in at HMRC by January (up to the previous April 2021) or fines will be issued.

Just ask Derby and Sheff Wednesday they’ll be able to buy us some time

[Vegas Claret]

He doesn't like how our takeover was done, primarily due to the size of our club, with its low turnover.
He doesn't think it's sustainable as we are.

He does generally get his point across in a well reasoned manner.

You're correct that he won't know all the details and is working with what he's seen, which is the same as the rest of us.

I think I'm just a person who doesn't try to cross a bridge that we haven't got to, I don't deal with blind unsubstantiated panic.

[ClaretTony]

Think you have a choice. But accounts have to be in by 31st December for previous years accounts, not this years. The end of March remains year end, so accounts run April to April but need to be in at HMRC by January (up to the previous April 2021) or fines will be issued.

I thought it was referring to the date they have to be published

[elwaclaret]

Just ask Derby and Sheff Wednesday they’ll be able to buy us some time

Quite possible to get extra time; I filed late for the last year, but when I rang with mitigation they were quite wonderful, never thought I’d say that about the taxman, but in fairness I’ve always found the Tax office to be one of the more reasonable Government departments, if you are honest and friendly they really do all they can to avoid creating issues… part of the reason it is so sad when ‘businessmen’ try to outsmart the tax and then cry when the Taxman bites.

[taio]

Wood is one of our only premier league quality players. Losing him at this time of year to a relegation rival is criminal.

Unless we make three top signings this window now, Pace has failed his duty’s.

If you believe 'Wood is one of our only premier league quality players', and you regard Brownhill as Championship standard, why have you singled out Brownhill so much?

[Newcastleclaret93]

If you believe 'Wood is one of our only premier league quality players', and you regard Brownhill as Championship standard, why have you singled out Brownhill so much?

I think it’s highlighted purely because people argue with me about him. I usually don’t even bring it up, like I haven’t in this thread.

[Vegas Claret]

I think it’s highlighted purely because people argue with me about him. I usually don’t even bring it up, like I haven’t in this thread.

I'd love to know what you'd say if Dyche spent 25 million on a 30 year old striker with 3 goals and no assists this season

[ksrclaret]

I think it’s highlighted purely because people argue with me about him. I usually don’t even bring it up, like I haven’t in this thread.

Like on the ratings thread when you said he "wasn't even a footballer". You're right that you didn't call him League 1 standard. You didn't even award him that courtesy.

Similarly when you've said Collins' positioning was suspect so you decided to call him Bambi on Ice on the ratings thread.

Bottom line is NC, you're a big baby who can't regulate his emotions properly so you come out with these ridiculous outbursts that make you look very, very silly indeed.

Just try and be a little more evaluative and sensible and people won't argue with you as much.

[matucana]

I thought it was until March as well?

Could well be March for the publication of the accounts and possibly beyond. The Club's financial year will have ended on 31st December 2021 and information will currently be being pulled together to make up those final accounts. Areas such as cash flow will already be known and closely monitored throughout the year and may have had some bearing on this transfer. An audit of the accounts, subsidiary companies and supporting documentation will also take place over the next three months or so. Also bear in mind the impact of Covid in the first five months of 2021 when matches behind closed doors was the norm. Could well be some losses there.

[Newcastleclaret93]

I'd love to know what you'd say if Dyche spent 25 million on a 30 year old striker with 3 goals and no assists this season

Or what about spending 25m on a player that has scored 10 or more goals four seasons in a row. the only other premier league players to achieve this are:

Salah
Kane
Vardy
Son
Lacazette

[Claretforever]

Could well be March for the publication of the accounts and possibly beyond. The Club's financial year will have ended on 31st December 2021 and information will currently be being pulled together to make up those final accounts. Areas such as cash flow will already be known and closely monitored throughout the year and may have had some bearing on this transfer. An audit of the accounts, subsidiary companies and supporting documentation will also take place over the next three months or so. Also bear in mind the impact of Covid in the first five months of 2021 when matches behind closed doors was the norm. Could well be some losses there.

The financial year, prior to Covid, finished on 30th June. Most clubs are the same.

[Vegas Claret]

Or what about spending 25m on a player that has scored 10 or more goals four seasons in a row. the only other premier league players to achieve this are:

Salah
Kane
Vardy
Son
Lacazette

Gary Lineker once scored over 40 if we are judging on history

[GodIsADeeJay81]

I think your mistaken.

I have referred to Brownhill as championship quality.

Still not convinced by Collins tbh. Had one very good game and the ones I thought his positioning was suspect. However he’s very young and has shown enough to suggest he will be good.

Sigh, to think you had such high praise for Brownhill when he first started playing for us.

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[Lew200100]

Deluded if you think fans will be against Wood going. He played well second half of last season and that’s it.glad he’s gone we would be better off without him up or down fantastic business. Get tarkie booted through the door and time to re build. Tarkie is another overplayed pre Madonna. He thinks he’s Arnold Keoman but not in my book. Clear the dross and billy big Bo****s out and re build with younger players who want to play and have energy.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Sigh, to think you had such high praise for Brownhill when he first started playing for us.

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Yep I did rate him in his first games. He’s dropped off massively

[Newcastleclaret93]

Gary Lineker once scored over 40 if we are judging on history

It’s not a one of though. It’s consistent goals over a four year period.

We are losing our main striker in the middle of our most difficult relegation fight.

[agreenwood]

Why would anyone turn against someone if they were forced to honour the release clause negotiated the previous regime?

[RVclaret]

Sigh, to think you had such high praise for Brownhill when he first started playing for us.

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quality

[ksrclaret]

Yep I did rate him in his first games. He’s dropped off massively

From a PL quality player to not even a football anymore.

Either he's declined on a scale never seen before, or you're a very, very poor judge of a footballer's ability.

[gandhisflipflop]

Why would anyone turn against someone if they were forced to honour the release clause negotiated the previous regime?

Because they are clueless about football

[NickBFC]

The fact is he’s 30

The fact is he is 31 next year, as I said.

[CnBtruntru]

Why would fans turn on Pace, it's not him who is getting Wood the move, it's his agent management team.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Ok you guys are right Brownhill is premier league quality. He dominates games.

[Milltown1882]

Deluded if you think fans will be against Wood going. He played well second half of last season and that’s it.glad he’s gone we would be better off without him up or down fantastic business. Get tarkie booted through the door and time to re build. Tarkie is another overplayed pre Madonna. He thinks he’s Arnold Keoman but not in my book. Clear the dross and billy big Bo****s out and re build with younger players who want to play and have energy.

Pre Madonna. Blimey.

[joey13]

The fact is he is 31 next year, as I said.

The fact is he is 31 this year

[Jakubclaret]

It’s not a one of though. It’s consistent goals over a four year period.

We are losing our main striker in the middle of our most difficult relegation fight to a rival believe it or not

Couldn’t resist