January 2022 Burnley Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

[Papabendi]

There will always be one sad sod who will go and see. Here you go, 59 goals against 22 different teams.

7 - Hoffenheim
5 - Eintracht Frankfurt
5 - Fortuna Dusseldorf
5 - Werder Bremen
4 - Freiburg
4 - Schalke 04
3 - Augsburg
3 - Koln
3 - Union Berlin
2 - Arminia Bielefeld
2 - Bayern Munich
2 - Borussia Moenchengladbach
2 - Hertha Berlin
2 - Mainz
2 - RB Leipzig
2 - Stuttgart
1 - Augsburg
1 - Bayer Leverkusen
1 - Bochum
1 - Borussia Dortmund
1 - Gruether Furth
1 - Hannover 9

so just a few goals against the very top echelon teams

[Steddyman]

that is extraordinary

And entirely predictable at the start of the window.

[Burnley Ace]

What are " Right Wing anti Brexit politics " ?

Things like one of the highest Brexit votes, historically having UKIP and BNP Councillors, booing when players take the knee, and fans organising a plane with a humiliating “White Lives matter” banner?

[ClaretPete001]

Rouwen Hennings notched 15 in 2020.

That said he was linked with Spurs, Arsenal and West Ham at various times and from what I've seen is a real threat.


From a cursory glance Wout has scored 1 Vs Dortmund, 2 Vs Bayern, a few Vs Leipzig and Leverkusen, and bags Vs Hoffenheim, Bremen, Schalke, Dusseldorf and Union Berlin. But you can only score against what you play against, and Wolfsburg aren't exactly littered with creative and attacking stars, best they have is Camacho and Brekalo, Weghorst was pretty much carrying them for a couple years.

Wolfsburg played in the Champions league this year. Very few players score 1 in 2 in the Premiership.

Only Jamie Vardy and Mo Salah have managed it so far. Lewandowski scored 40 goals - you can't say that he would score that many in the Premiership at nearly 34 years old.

Chris Wood's scoring record is very good for a team that came 17th and regularly gets less than 30 pre cent possession.

There has to be some reality here

[Dy1geo]

Perhaps we just have to accept that players don’t want to come to Burnley. They don’t like the clubs image, they don’t like the clubs unwitting association with Right Wing anti Brexit politics, they can get as good a wage elsewhere. What makes Burnley an attractive proposition- Ramsey would rather go to Rangers!!

If that’s the case we should be looking at players from Lazio and go even further to Eastern Europe to recruit

[ClaretTony]

so just a few goals against the very top echelon teams

And Wood's for comparison

7 - West Ham
5 - Wolves
4 - Leicester
3 - Aston Villa
3 - Brighton
3 - Crystal Palace
3 - Norwich
3 - Tottenham
2 - Bournemouth
2 - Cardiff
2 - Everton
2 - Manchester United
2 - Southampton
1 - Arsenal
1 - Brentford
1 - Fulham
1 - Huddersfield
1 - Leeds
1 - Newcastle
1 - Watford
1 - West Brom

[burnley007]

Things like one of the highest Brexit votes, historically having UKIP and BNP Councillors, booing when players take the knee, and fans organising a plane with a humiliating “White Lives matter” banner?

Sad truth of the mindset of most Burnley folk unfortunately.

[warksclaret]

I think using the old chestnut that people dont want to play for BFC is taking the focus off our shambolic ability to recruit, which has been with us for at least 3-4 years. How many times in previous windows have we put everything on one or two players to see them turn us down, leaving no time to get alternative players

[claretonthecoast1882]

I think using the old chestnut that people dont want to play for BFC is taking the focus off our shambolic ability to recruit, which has been with us for at least 3-4 years. How many times in previous windows have we put everything on one or two players to see them turn us down, leaving no time to get alternative players

271 times

[Jakubclaret]

Again to be fair if you read the Wolfsburg forums WW was thought of as a bad apple in the dressing room.

Just saying....!

I was just explaining a few things regarding Aaron Ramsey, regarding our new man WW it’s news to me that he’s got a disruptive nature but then again i haven’t met the man personally so it wouldn’t be wise for me to comment.

[TsarBomba]

All those lining up to give Pace a mouthful at 1 minute past the window closing would do well to remember that being bottom of the table going into the second half of the season is a very hard sell.

Sure, I’ll be incredibly disappointed if we don’t strengthen, but it won’t be for the want of trying.

[agreenwood]

And Wood's for comparison

7 - West Ham
5 - Wolves
4 - Leicester
3 - Aston Villa
3 - Brighton
3 - Crystal Palace
3 - Norwich
3 - Tottenham
2 - Bournemouth
2 - Cardiff
2 - Everton
2 - Manchester United
2 - Southampton
1 - Arsenal
1 - Brentford
1 - Fulham
1 - Huddersfield
1 - Leeds
1 - Newcastle
1 - Watford
1 - West Brom

Is there any striker at a lower ranking top flight club who is prolific against the very best?

I mean, I’ll be having a right whinge if Weghorst is the sum of our transfer dealing today, but I’m not sure what PapaBendi is expecting in terms of a goal scoring record.

[spt_claret]

I don't know who told you that but it isn't true, Camacho retired ages ago and was a defensive player who barely played half a season with injuries, Brekalo was once an exciting young talent, Wolfsburg sent him out on loan this season.

Maxi Arnold is a brilliant footballer, exactly what we need in central midfield. Baku is one of the hottest prospects in Germany atm, flying right sided player and Nmecha is finally showing his true potential and broke into the national team.

Did you miss where I was talking about the last few seasons not right this moment? And how Weghorst has been the main man and primary attacking focus for them with them mostly lacking in other elite options for a few years?
Yes I should have clarified Camacho as just a good midfielder you're quite right he's defensive.
I know Brekalos at Torino this season.
Nmecha only just joined this season.
Baku had a good season last year but that's about it.
Don't know tons about Arnold he's never leapt out to me, I remember he was a real hot prospect a while back but beyond that I don't know.

[burnley007]

Who's excited for the Watford game now? Imagine the lift the fans will have after yet another disastrous window...ffs

[thelaughingclaret]

All those lining up to give Pace a mouthful at 1 minute past the window closing would do well to remember that being bottom of the table going into the second half of the season is a very hard sell.

Sure, I’ll be incredibly disappointed if we don’t strengthen, but it won’t be for the want of trying.

We might not have been in this position though if we had done better in the summer. It’s same old every window, the “we tried our best but no one wants to come to Burnley” line is getting old now.

[randomclaret2]

Things like one of the highest Brexit votes, historically having UKIP and BNP Councillors, booing when players take the knee, and fans organising a plane with a humiliating “White Lives matter” banner?

How can a vote for Brexit be " anti Brexit " ?

[BleedingClaret]

so just a few goals against the very top echelon teams

I’d rather him score in a 1.0 win against Watford than the 1 in a 4.1 loss to Citeh

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Can we take a moment to appreciate Aubameyang pulling an Odemwingie by flying into Barca in the hope of forcing the move through, only for talks between the club's to break down and he's potentially facing a return to London

[Hibsclaret]

I would suggest goals against Bayern Munich & Dortmund is comparable to City & Liverpool. On the basis of that we now have someone who can score occasionally against the very best.

[burnley007]

All those lining up to give Pace a mouthful at 1 minute past the window closing would do well to remember that being bottom of the table going into the second half of the season is a very hard sell.

Sure, I’ll be incredibly disappointed if we don’t strengthen, but it won’t be for the want of trying.

How many seasons have we been in the Premier League? How many times have we heard this excuse? Embarrassing now.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Who's excited for the Watford game now? Imagine the lift the fans will have after yet another disastrous window...ffs

For our first Saturday home league game since November I can't wait.

A big game, under the lights and a day on the lash what is there to not look forward to ?

[duncandisorderly]

We don't need a striker to score against the higher echelons. If he only scores 3 but they winning goals against Norwich, Watford and Newcastle that will have contributed more than enough.

[colne-claret]

All those lining up to give Pace a mouthful at 1 minute past the window closing would do well to remember that being bottom of the table going into the second half of the season is a very hard sell.

Sure, I’ll be incredibly disappointed if we don’t strengthen, but it won’t be for the want of trying.

Why because he supposedly flew to Croatia?

[Paddy1882]

Can we take a moment to appreciate Aubameyang pulling an Odemwingie by flying into Barca in the hope of forcing the move through, only for talks between the club's to break down and he's potentially facing a return to London

Flying back to his 350k a week…. The world of football has gone mad.

[ClaretTony]

Is there any striker at a lower ranking top flight club who is prolific against the very best?

I mean, I’ll be having a right whinge if Weghorst is the sum of our transfer dealing today, but I’m not sure what PapaBendi is expecting in terms of a goal scoring record.

Ashley Barnes - 13 of his 41 have come against the perceived big six

5 - Southampton
3 - Arsenal
3 - Bournemouth
3 - Crystal Palace
3 - Tottenham
2 - Chelsea
2 - Liverpool
2 - Manchester United
2 - Watford
2 - West Brom
2 - West Ham
2 - Wolves
1 - Brighton
1 - Everton
1 - Huddersfield
1 - Hull
1 - Manchester City
1 - Stoke
1 - Stoke
1 - Sunderland
1 - Swansea
1 - Fulham

[claretonthecoast1882]

Can we take a moment to appreciate Aubameyang pulling an Odemwingie by flying into Barca in the hope of forcing the move through, only for talks between the club's to break down and he's potentially facing a return to London

I bet he is late back too

[AlargeClaret]

Things like one of the highest Brexit votes, historically having UKIP and BNP Councillors, booing when players take the knee, and fans organising a plane with a humiliating “White Lives matter” banner?

Do you seriously think any player ( especially non uk ) have the slightest inkling or give a flying f*** that 15/20 yrs ago a few tiny wards briefly elected a few bnp councillors ? And what the hell has Brexit voted got to do with it?? And you wonder why the country elected a clown with views like yours representing the other option.

Perhaps being a tiny prem club in a sh1thole of a town ,stone bottom of the league, very weak squad and not being able to afford insane wages has rather more bearing .

[spt_claret]

Wolfsburg played in the Champions league this year. Very few players score 1 in 2 in the Premiership.

Only Jamie Vardy and Mo Salah have managed it so far. Lewandowski scored 40 goals - you can't say that he would score that many in the Premiership at nearly 34 years old.

Chris Wood's scoring record is very good for a team that came 17th and regularly gets less than 30 pre cent possession.

There has to be some reality here

At no point have I disputed this and at no point have I celebrated Wood's departure. I pointed out exactly what you're saying a few pages back and how even if I think Weghorst is an upgrade that people expecting 10 in 20 from him are completely missing the situation. I am just also trying to explain reasons for optimism albeit with measured expectations.

This entire thread is just people jumping to one extreme or the other and making assumptions about any poster who doesn't do the same. Going to step out until the window shuts.

[Spijed]

Winning 1-0 gets you the same number of points as a 4-0 victory does.

[Hedontplayforyou]

Glad we have replaced Wood but can’t say I’m not disappointed at not adding anyone else to improve us. Unfortunate if this is indeed window done.

[KateR]

Sad but true.

Not true at all, if the time and effort had not been required for WW, then it could have been spent on other players, who may or may not have joined.

I agree it's the outcome but if they hadn't the outcome could have been very different.

[Papabendi]

Is there any striker at a lower ranking top flight club who is prolific against the very best?

I mean, I’ll be having a right whinge if Weghorst is the sum of our transfer dealing today, but I’m not sure what PapaBendi is expecting in terms of a goal scoring record.

Not a whinge, an observation. Pretty happy with the signing.

[ClaretMov]

Unfortunately we are ending this window weaker than when we started it

[NewClaret]

There’s some absolute melts on here today.

[Spijed]

Unfortunately we are ending this window weaker than when we started it

Are you seriously suggesting Wood is a better striker?

[Newcastleclaret93]

Are you seriously suggesting Wood is a better striker?

Yet to be proven either way

[Damo]

Things like one of the highest Brexit votes, historically having UKIP and BNP Councillors, booing when players take the knee, and fans organising a plane with a humiliating “White Lives matter” banner?

Do you seriously think footballers care about any of that?
Get a grip

[RVclaret]

Winning 1-0 gets you the same number of points as a 4-0 victory does.

Agree and it’s a fair point. Yet those 1-0 victories have often alluded us due to our lack of ability to control a game anymore. Hence we needed players who can pass a ball rather than treat it like a hot potato.

[dsr]

Perhaps we just have to accept that players don’t want to come to Burnley. They don’t like the clubs image, they don’t like the clubs unwitting association with Right Wing anti Brexit politics, they can get as good a wage elsewhere. What makes Burnley an attractive proposition- Ramsey would rather go to Rangers!!

I doubt that players generally care all that much about the local election results of 14 years ago. As reasons to do down the town go, it's a bit thin.

[Conroy92]

All those lining up to give Pace a mouthful at 1 minute past the window closing would do well to remember that being bottom of the table going into the second half of the season is a very hard sell.

Sure, I’ll be incredibly disappointed if we don’t strengthen, but it won’t be for the want of trying.

Aye, thanks Alan...

[claretonthecoast1882]

Do you seriously think footballers care about any of that?
Get a grip

It is well known that Ramsey has strong views on all of that but is happy to ignore the 24hr a day sectarian bigots

[Milltown1882]

£40million for Dele Alli. At least Dick Turpin wore a mask.

[Stayingup]

Sad truth of the mindset of most Burnley folk unfortunately.

Sorry but that really is an ignorant comment.

[ClaretPete001]

At no point have I disputed this and at no point have I celebrated Wood's departure. I pointed out exactly what you're saying a few pages back and how even if I think Weghorst is an upgrade that people expecting 10 in 20 from him are completely missing the situation. I am just also trying to explain reasons for optimism albeit with measured expectations.

This entire thread is just people jumping to one extreme or the other and making assumptions about any poster who doesn't do the same. Going to step out until the window shuts.

Oh ok apologies I was largely referring to the whole thread rather than your post

[Newcastleclaret93]

All those lining up to give Pace a mouthful at 1 minute past the window closing would do well to remember that being bottom of the table going into the second half of the season is a very hard sell.

Sure, I’ll be incredibly disappointed if we don’t strengthen, but it won’t be for the want of trying.

Pace could go into your house steal everything you own and you would still support him haha.

If this window was under Garlicks tenureship you wouldn’t even be able to post on this thread because it would be locked.

[Shaggy]

If we fail to sign anyone else then this window has yet again been a disaster. It’s not good enough and will see us playing championship football next season.

[ClaretPete001]

Ashley Barnes - 13 of his 41 have come against the perceived big six

5 - Southampton
3 - Arsenal
3 - Bournemouth
3 - Crystal Palace
3 - Tottenham
2 - Chelsea
2 - Liverpool
2 - Manchester United etc

But perhaps more importantly his ability to disrupt play, buy fouls and generally keep possession has been a big loss.

What feels like an annoying git who keeps falling over is actually someone buying invaluable yards for a team with low possession stats

[Tall Paul]

We might not have been in this position though if we had done better in the summer. It’s same old every window, the “we tried our best but no one wants to come to Burnley” line is getting old now.

What's should the club do about it then? They can't force players to come and I doubt they can offer higher wages than they are doing. They could target players who aren't as good I suppose, but look at the reaction when Gosling was mentioned yesterday.

I asked you a similar question to this after you said we should stop players using us to get new contracts the other day and you ignored it.

[ervi34]

Would be interesting to see what would comments be like if Garlick were still in charge.

[claretrobo1]

All those lining up to give Pace a mouthful at 1 minute past the window closing would do well to remember that being bottom of the table going into the second half of the season is a very hard sell.

Sure, I’ll be incredibly disappointed if we don’t strengthen, but it won’t be for the want of trying.

You don’t get points for trying. Ultimately, the window has been a failure if nobody else is brought in and that’s what is looking likely. Have I been watching the same Burnley that everyone else has? No creativity. Weghorst can be as good as he wants but if we’ve got nobody to create chances then there’s little point.