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Re: Wout Weghorst- he’s not just a big lump

Post by Hibsclaret » Tue Feb 08, 2022 11:09 pm

Completely different style of player to Wood. The team needs to adapt better to his skill set and good signs were there from about the latter part of the first half. This guy looks top drawer in terms of technical ability, hold up play and attitude. Very impressive.

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Re: Wout Weghorst- he’s not just a big lump

Post by spt_claret » Tue Feb 08, 2022 11:10 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Tue Feb 08, 2022 10:58 pm
Pace does have experience of football
Apologies, forgot his involvement at Real Salt Lake but with all respect it's a very different level.
Vino blanco wrote:
Tue Feb 08, 2022 10:58 pm
Conjecture.
It's greater conjecture to think that Pace is the one scouting players ahead of the manager and his coaching/scouting team.
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Re: Wout Weghorst- he’s not just a big lump

Post by pureclaret » Tue Feb 08, 2022 11:13 pm

i keep seeing people say hes not fast but id bet he would beat wood in a sprint and his control and passing are far better the king is dead long live the king
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Re: Wout Weghorst- he’s not just a big lump

Post by Boss Hogg » Tue Feb 08, 2022 11:17 pm

Had an excellent 2nd half. Needs ball playing to feet. Great touch and movement in build up to the assist. Also good at collecting from deep. Works hard too. I can’t think of another striker like him.

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Re: Wout Weghorst- he’s not just a big lump

Post by Vino blanco » Tue Feb 08, 2022 11:17 pm

spt_claret wrote:
Tue Feb 08, 2022 11:10 pm
Apologies, forgot his involvement at Real Salt Lake but with all respect it's a very different level.


It's greater conjecture to think that Pace is the one scouting players ahead of the manager and his coaching/scouting team.
I said in my original post: well done to Pace and his recruitment team, whoever they are. I nevet said Pace did it by himself. I simply repeat the quality of signings since Pace took over is better than previously.
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Re: Wout Weghorst- he’s not just a big lump

Post by Spiral » Tue Feb 08, 2022 11:18 pm

pureclaret wrote:
Tue Feb 08, 2022 11:13 pm
i keep seeing people say hes not fast but id bet he would beat wood in a sprint
So would Big Neville Southall, to be fair.
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Re: Wout Weghorst- he’s not just a big lump

Post by Stayingup » Tue Feb 08, 2022 11:21 pm

Vino blanco wrote:
Tue Feb 08, 2022 10:40 pm
Looks like he will be a very good signing by Pace and the new recruitment team, whowever they are. A couple more of his quality in midfield and we would have a good team/squad. If we can only stop up this year, we could be moving in the right direction.
Yes whoever they are. Its a good point. Did Dyche pick this guy? Not sure at all.

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Re: Wout Weghorst- he’s not just a big lump

Post by spt_claret » Tue Feb 08, 2022 11:22 pm

Vino blanco wrote:
Tue Feb 08, 2022 11:17 pm
I said in my original post: well done to Pace and his recruitment team, whoever they are. I nevet said Pace did it by himself. I simply repeat the quality of signings since Pace took over is better than previously.
Fair enough and I wouldn't disagree on that. I just find it strange how people seem quick to give Pace the credit and omit Dyche. There's a reason Barton had his head on straight under Dyche alone, there's a reason Defour still sings his praises despite having played for Belgium when they were ranked #1 in the world, there's a reason Trippier still talks so highly of Dyche even as a World Cup semifinalist and European Championship Final goalscorer. He's an exceptionally astute manager regardless of my and others frustrations with playing style, who clearly gets players to overperform regularly, and my instinct is that he is a key part of the brains behind these signings, just had limitations on his options under Garlick.
I hope this window was a blip in terms of incoming volume and whatever league we're in, we keep this up and Dyche/Pace have better cohesion than Dyche/Garlick.

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Re: Wout Weghorst- he’s not just a big lump

Post by Stayingup » Tue Feb 08, 2022 11:23 pm

Good to see us nit lumping long throws in to him tonight. Not that we got that many!!!

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Re: Wout Weghorst- he’s not just a big lump

Post by bfcjg » Tue Feb 08, 2022 11:24 pm

Brilliant performance, can't wait to see him on a dry pitch in better conditions.

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Re: Wout Weghorst- he’s not just a big lump

Post by Juan Tanamera » Wed Feb 09, 2022 12:33 am

Bin Ont Turf wrote:
Tue Feb 08, 2022 11:03 pm
Not for one minute previous to tonight, did I think he was just a big lump.
There is a video of Weghorst's 65 goals for Wolfsburg on YouTube and only around 13 are headers.
And I think I'm correct in saying that only one of his goals came from outside the penalty area.
Most definitely not a big lump. 👍
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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by IanMcL » Wed Feb 09, 2022 1:03 am

After a quiet first game, he was excellent tonight

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by DukeOfBar » Wed Feb 09, 2022 1:17 am

Just got home.. thought he was voutstanding tonight :-)
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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by ClaretMov » Wed Feb 09, 2022 5:26 am

Thought at half time we might have been sold a dud, easy to push of the ball, can't jump, looked slow, wow was I wrong, second half he was fantastic I can't wait to see what he can do in better weather and he's had a few games under his belt.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Swizzlestick » Wed Feb 09, 2022 7:31 am

I didn’t even think he was that bad first half, but second he was like a man possessed. Superb skill for the goal and his use of the ball in tight situations was outstanding. I think he much preferred playing with a ‘proper’ forward like Rodriguez too.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Feb 09, 2022 7:37 am

I think you could see 2nd half that there is a an absolute steal for £13 million there
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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by evensteadiereddie » Wed Feb 09, 2022 8:48 am

According to newspaper reports last week, there were plenty of European football commentators who reckoned we'd played a blinder signing him.
They were not wrong.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Rileybobs » Wed Feb 09, 2022 9:08 am

That second half performance was fantastic. He seemed to grow in confidence, particularly from the fantastic assist. Thought he didn’t make moves towards the ball in the first half and also lumbered in possession a little too long. Second half he really seemed to get up to the pace of the game and look to make things happen which has been my biggest criticism of our players this season. Looking forward to seeing more of him and hopefully goals to come.
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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by RicardoMontalban » Wed Feb 09, 2022 9:28 am

Thought Tarkowski and Mee were immense at the back last night but for me, Weghorst, especially in the second half, really set the tone for how we performed further up the pitch. Both with and without the ball. Showed some real class and not a little bit of leadership and example which we have been missing desperately. Other players seemed to really feed off that.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by arise_sir_charge » Wed Feb 09, 2022 9:32 am

I think that bizzarely it settled when he realised he had a little more time on the ball than he was taking.

Looked as though he’d been told “you don’t get time on the ball in the premier league” but after he dropped in a bit, played some nice stuff just before half time, he seemed to realise that actually you do and there was more calmness to his play.

Looks a player and a few were very quick to pile in on him on here on Saturday.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by alwaysaclaret » Wed Feb 09, 2022 9:39 am

I lost count of the number of times he chested the ball down, controlled and did something positive with it, and I thought it was actually him that lifted the team, and put a colossal shift in, if and it's a big if, we can stay up, 2 or 3 signings of the quality of him and cornet and we're going places again, but we need a win desperately, c'mon you clarets.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Feb 09, 2022 9:41 am

Someone at half time in the JHU bogs said we've signed "the new Nathan Peel"

Think its fair to say after than 2nd half performance that is a tad harsh!

He was outstanding 2nd half, and his touches and lay offs and all round play was a spot on

Obviously its still early, but he looks a significant upgrade on Wood
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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by tarkys_ears » Wed Feb 09, 2022 9:57 am

What happened to his eye? Did that occur during the game? I missed a few mins early on.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by RVclaret » Wed Feb 09, 2022 10:04 am

tarkys_ears wrote:
Wed Feb 09, 2022 9:57 am
What happened to his eye? Did that occur during the game? I missed a few mins early on.
That was from the Watford game when he got clattered just outside their area

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by warksclaret » Wed Feb 09, 2022 10:34 am

His work rate is incredible, and does a huge amount of chasing back and challenging players in possession.He will potentially be the biggest lift for this team in the way he plays

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Re: Wout Weghorst- he’s not just a big lump

Post by Stayingup » Wed Feb 09, 2022 2:18 pm

Spiral wrote:
Tue Feb 08, 2022 11:05 pm
Aye, it's pronounced like shout, not like root.

From the second half (when we woke up) he was so much more involved in the press and the build-up play than we'd become accustomed to seeing from Wood. Anticipated his teammates' pressure rather well and consistently positioned himself well to help the midfield. This is something for which Wood had zero nous, and we need the strikers to come deep and help win the ball back if we're only playing two in midfield. Something you don't usually see done too well in target men, and makes you think if calling him a target man is even fair to him. He's just a smarter footballer than Wood, I think. Just as slow as Wood, and probably not as much of a battering ram, but looks sharper, takes more initiative, and moves the ball far quicker.
Agree with a lot of that. He doesn't seem an out and out target man, which is brilliant because we can try to play more touch football. He passes well, short and sharp somtimes, perhaps too quick for some of our players and his pass for the goal was sublime.

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Re: Wout Weghorst- he’s not just a big lump

Post by timel0veandtendayi » Wed Feb 09, 2022 2:26 pm

Boss Hogg wrote:
Tue Feb 08, 2022 11:17 pm
Had an excellent 2nd half. Needs ball playing to feet. Great touch and movement in build up to the assist. Also good at collecting from deep. Works hard too. I can’t think of another striker like him.
Reminded me a bit of Peter Crouch, just in the way that he's lanky and awkward to get the ball off, technically better than he looks, drops deep effectively etc.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by PremierLeagueClass » Wed Feb 09, 2022 3:23 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Wed Feb 09, 2022 10:34 am
His work rate is incredible, and does a huge amount of chasing back and challenging players in possession.He will potentially be the biggest lift for this team in the way he plays
That really did stand out last night.

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Re: Wout Weghorst- he’s not just a big lump

Post by clitheroeclaret3 » Wed Feb 09, 2022 4:46 pm

Boss Hogg wrote:
Tue Feb 08, 2022 11:17 pm
Had an excellent 2nd half. Needs ball playing to feet. Great touch and movement in build up to the assist. Also good at collecting from deep. Works hard too. I can’t think of another striker like him.
Really enjoyed watching that 2nd half performance especially from Wout.
As above, also don`t thing I`ve ever seen a player with such fantastic chest control, laying it off, controlling it no matter what the pass, superb!

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Re: Wout Weghorst- he’s not just a big lump

Post by clitheroeclaret3 » Wed Feb 09, 2022 4:51 pm

Boss Hogg wrote:
Tue Feb 08, 2022 11:17 pm
Had an excellent 2nd half. Needs ball playing to feet. Great touch and movement in build up to the assist. Also good at collecting from deep. Works hard too. I can’t think of another striker like him.
Really enjoyed watching that 2nd half performance especially from Wout.
As above, also don`t thing I`ve ever seen a player with such fantastic chest control, laying it off, controlling it no matter what the pass to him was, superb!

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Feb 09, 2022 8:16 pm

Stayingup wrote:
Wed Feb 09, 2022 2:18 pm
Agree with a lot of that. He doesn't seem an out and out target man, which is brilliant because we can try to play more touch football. He passes well, short and sharp somtimes, perhaps too quick for some of our players and his pass for the goal was sublime.
Was interesting earlier this week that Rangnick was asked about him in his press conference.

Rangnick said: “He’s not that much of a physical target striker. He is more of a technical player.”

Totally different kind of player than Wood who we will need to use in a different way.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by ClaretAL » Wed Feb 09, 2022 8:19 pm

A perfect number 10 in skill set but built to be a striker or cb. But his sight and touch is good

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Boydesque » Thu Feb 10, 2022 1:38 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Wed Feb 09, 2022 9:41 am
Someone at half time in the JHU bogs said we've signed "the new Nathan Peel"

Think its fair to say after than 2nd half performance that is a tad harsh!

He was outstanding 2nd half, and his touches and lay offs and all round play was a spot on

Obviously its still early, but he looks a significant upgrade on Wood
That was me
Usually works slate a player and he comes up with the goods and he certainly did
I take it all back ,he was fantastic second half and looking forward to seeing him skin van dyke on Sunday
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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by TheFamilyCat » Thu Feb 10, 2022 2:24 pm

Boydesque wrote:
Thu Feb 10, 2022 1:38 pm
That was me
Usually works slate a player and he comes up with the goods and he certainly did
I take it all back ,he was fantastic second half and looking forward to seeing him skin van dyke on Sunday
Can you try slating them before kick off instead of waiting until half time?

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Spijed » Thu Feb 10, 2022 2:31 pm

With regards to his heading perhaps he's suffering from the David Jones Syndrome?

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Rowls » Thu Feb 10, 2022 2:39 pm

Brand new brilliant bean pole.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by MT03ALG » Thu Feb 10, 2022 2:39 pm

Stats from Manfred, my German friend:
Weghorst v Manure: 50 ball contacts and moved round the whole pitch.
Wood in contrast: perhaps 30 ball contacts including 25 misplaced passes and moved covered the distance of a beer mat :D :D :D

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Feb 19, 2022 5:36 pm

good stats today
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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by RVclaret » Sat Feb 19, 2022 5:41 pm

Involved in all 3 goals. 1 excellent finish, 1 nice touch for Brownhill and 1 pressing / tackling to win the ball back in their half. Said on the player ratings thread that he’s just the perfect Burnley and Dyche striker.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Rowls » Sat Feb 19, 2022 5:44 pm

Superb performance against a side that have been brilliant at the back all season.

Only Liverpool and Man City had scored twice in a single half against Brighton this season before today.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by tiger76 » Sat Feb 19, 2022 5:44 pm

Amazing we picked this guy up for only £12m, he's transformed our attacking play almost single-handedly.

And all he was missing was a goal, now he's up and running that should be the first of many.

Chris who?
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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Pearcey » Sat Feb 19, 2022 5:45 pm

I’m absolutely loving him! He seems to have lifted the players as well. He was hugging everyone at the final whistle. Great stuff!!
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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Andreshotboots » Sat Feb 19, 2022 5:47 pm

I'd describe him as an absolute nuisance who has strength, technique, passion and a great reading of the game. Looks an excellent signing and a perfect fit for us so far..
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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Burnley Ace » Sat Feb 19, 2022 5:48 pm

Can’t wait to see him play when t isn’t 90 mins of driving rain, howling wind and freezing temperatures!!

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Sat Feb 19, 2022 5:51 pm

No way are the auditors giving our accounts a clean bill of health if they show us getting £25m for Wood and paying £12m for Weghorst.

More likely they’ll call the fraud squad.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by cockneyclaret » Sat Feb 19, 2022 5:51 pm

Pearcey wrote:
Sat Feb 19, 2022 5:45 pm
I’m absolutely loving him! He seems to have lifted the players as well. He was hugging everyone at the final whistle. Great stuff!!
Was saying that at work today, seems to have changed how we attack and his vision of what's around him is just something else.
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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Wuggawumphwumph » Sat Feb 19, 2022 5:51 pm

How many times has he played for Nederland

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by ksrclaret » Sat Feb 19, 2022 5:53 pm

On a completely different planet compared with his predecessor. I wasn't sure I'd warm to him after the Watford game (even taking into account the horrendous conditions) but he's impressed since.

We should be laughing our cocks off at the Wood/ Weghorst deal.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by claretandy » Sat Feb 19, 2022 5:53 pm

I though Jay Rod was excellent when he came on, and links up well with Wout.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by FCBurnley » Sat Feb 19, 2022 5:54 pm

As good an all round performance from a Burnley center forward for a long long time. Won the ball in the air, on his chest , on the floor and in the tackle. Scored a goal of the highest quality and made the second out of nothing. Even won the ball with a sliding tackle that started the third goal. 10 out of 10 for me
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