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Klopp again

Post by boatshed bill » Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:26 am

This pillock really needs to shut it. The old "physical Burnley" bullsh!t again

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Re: Klopp again

Post by Hibsclaret » Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:28 am

Don’t worry Wout will sort out the gobby Kr….German

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Re: Klopp again

Post by tiger76 » Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:40 am

Yawn! Klopp is like a broken record, if he thinks we're physical goodness only knows what he makes of Arsenal's red and yellow card count.

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Re: Klopp again

Post by Pearcey » Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:41 am

We’re in his head! Good.
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Re: Klopp again

Post by SalisburyClaret » Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:42 am

Klopp on Burnley: "I had the pleasure to watch Burnley against United. This situation explains the Premier League the best. The quality they produced was incredible. It was a proper team performance. There is a big possibility for them to still stay in the league.

"They brought in a new striker [Wout Weghorst]. If you saw the game, you would have seen he is a lively boy. He was very active all over the pitch. Burnley ask for all physicality you can put in a game, we cannot have the ball all the time and they are good when they have the ball.

"They have footballers everywhere. On top of that, the set-piece threat, we have to be aware and concentrated."
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Re: Klopp again

Post by Swizzlestick » Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:44 am

Thought his comments were fair (for once).
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Re: Klopp again

Post by evensteadiereddie » Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:47 am

A pretty fair assessment, that.

I hope we are physical and rip into them as we did United in the second half, even more so if we have to. Nothing dirty but borderline will do.

I don't mind losing to a class side or even being relegated so long as we really do get stuck in. The time for standing back and admiring opposition players has long gone.
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Re: Klopp again

Post by Stockbrokerbelt » Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:54 am

Wonder what his comments will be after the game?
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Re: Klopp again

Post by nil_desperandum » Fri Feb 11, 2022 12:10 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:26 am
This pillock really needs to shut it. The old "physical Burnley" bullsh!t again
I haven't checked, but if he's said what SaliburyClaret has quoted below, then he seems pretty bang on to me, and surprisingly complimentary.
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Re: Klopp again

Post by Hibsclaret » Fri Feb 11, 2022 12:15 pm

I have to say having watched his interview now he was very complimentary. Let’s see how he conducts himself when Wout gets his first brace.
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Re: Klopp again

Post by Billy Balfour » Fri Feb 11, 2022 12:22 pm

If that's what he said, it seems fairly complementary to me.

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Re: Klopp again

Post by Stayingup » Fri Feb 11, 2022 12:30 pm

I thought he was very complimentary. We are physical and thats a compliment. He also said we can play. Therefore I have changed my mind and will not throwing rotten apples at him on Sunday!!!

Actually as the Yorkshire Pudding said the other day with Weghorst we can change our style somewhat. Instead of lumping it up to him we can play into Weghorsts feet as he drops deeper leaving the other striker further upfield. From what I've seen he can play a close passing game which most of our team can't unfortunately.

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Re: Klopp again

Post by bobinho » Fri Feb 11, 2022 12:33 pm

Pearcey wrote:
Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:41 am
We’re in his head! Good.
But he's actually setting the tone for the ref and the VAR ref in highlighting something that doesn't exist. He doesn't want us to tackle his players, so he `suggests` we are very physical in the build up to the game hoping it gets picked up. He's trying to create an unfair advantage before a ball is kicked, and he's a prick.
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Re: Klopp again

Post by IanMcL » Fri Feb 11, 2022 12:38 pm

Just as long as the ref isn't suckered into their dying swan acts, all will be ok.

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Re: Klopp again

Post by DCWat » Fri Feb 11, 2022 12:41 pm

SalisburyClaret wrote:
Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:42 am
Klopp on Burnley: "I had the pleasure to watch Burnley against United. This situation explains the Premier League the best. The quality they produced was incredible. It was a proper team performance. There is a big possibility for them to still stay in the league.

"They brought in a new striker [Wout Weghorst]. If you saw the game, you would have seen he is a lively boy. He was very active all over the pitch. Burnley ask for all physicality you can put in a game, we cannot have the ball all the time and they are good when they have the ball.

"They have footballers everywhere. On top of that, the set-piece threat, we have to be aware and concentrated."
Amazing how, if comments are taken in their full context, the meaning can be seen to be entirely different. A very fair and complimentary assessment from Klopp, from those words.

Having heard the edited snippet on Talk Sport, I assume that this is where the OP may have got their perspective of his comments from.

This perfectly sums up how the likes of Talk Sport, and indeed various media outlets operate. Creating frustrated responses to drive listeners and debate (arguments).

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Re: Klopp again

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Fri Feb 11, 2022 12:41 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:26 am
This pillock really needs to shut it. The old "physical Burnley" bullsh!t again
Trying to get into the head of the Referee.

If that doesn't work, his "boys" berating the Ref and diving about like an Olympic High Diving Champions should do the trick :lol:

Three years since our last RED card :o

Having said that, football is quite physically demanding. Grow a pair Mr Klopp
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Re: Klopp again

Post by Lancasterclaret » Fri Feb 11, 2022 12:42 pm

RalphCoatesComb wrote:
Fri Feb 11, 2022 12:41 pm
Trying to get into the head of the Referee.

If that doesn't work, his "boys" berating the Ref and diving about like an Olympic High Diving Champions should do the trick :lol:

Three years since our last RED card :o

Having said that, football is quite physically demanding. Grow a pair Mr Klopp
Mate, you really need to hear the whole interview

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Re: Klopp again

Post by AlargeClaret » Fri Feb 11, 2022 12:44 pm

I almost want us to beat em for Klopp’s inevitable hysterical reaction than I do for the 3 points ( though a draw should trigger him beautifully too!)

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Re: Klopp again

Post by claret wizard » Fri Feb 11, 2022 12:51 pm

Klipperty has the good sense not to throw stones in his glasshouse.

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Re: Klopp again

Post by chekhov » Fri Feb 11, 2022 1:13 pm

I’m telling you, he’s gone up in my estimation. But I’ll love it if we beat ‘em!

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Re: Klopp again

Post by boatshed bill » Fri Feb 11, 2022 1:18 pm

bobinho wrote:
Fri Feb 11, 2022 12:33 pm
But he's actually setting the tone for the ref and the VAR ref in highlighting something that doesn't exist. He doesn't want us to tackle his players, so he `suggests` we are very physical in the build up to the game hoping it gets picked up. He's trying to create an unfair advantage before a ball is kicked, and he's a prick.
Exactly this.
Complimentary, but....
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Re: Klopp again

Post by bobinho » Fri Feb 11, 2022 1:18 pm

It’s purely an attempt to affect the game by getting into the officials head before a ball is kicked.

That fact he made some comments that are slightly less “gittish ” than usual is purely an attempt to disguise his real intentions. And some have proper gone for it…. 🤣🤣🤣

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Re: Klopp again

Post by Silkyskills1 » Fri Feb 11, 2022 1:22 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:
Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:47 am
A pretty fair assessment, that.

I hope we are physical and rip into them as we did United in the second half, even more so if we have to. Nothing dirty but borderline will do.

I don't mind losing to a class side or even being relegated so long as we really do get stuck in. The time for standing back and admiring opposition players has long gone.
Agree with your post although I think our first half display on Tuesday involved 'standing back and admiring'. I think by the end of Tuesday's game one or two players were 'treading water', excuse the pun, but 180 minutes plus inside three days in difficult conditions had understandably taken its toll. Hopefully a little more refreshed by Sunday and I just want to see us 'give them a game' and if that means, as you say, 'on the borderline' that's fine by me.

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Re: Klopp again

Post by Funkydrummer » Fri Feb 11, 2022 1:55 pm

It's a man's game for goodness sake, if they don't like it
maybe it's not for them and they should take up netball.

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Re: Klopp again

Post by Gordaleman » Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:14 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:26 am
This pillock really needs to shut it. The old "physical Burnley" bullsh!t again
You must be desperate to whinge about Kloppp is all I can say. I thought his comments were largely positive even when he mentioned 'Physicality.'

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Re: Klopp again

Post by Dark Cloud » Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:32 pm

Like all managers before a game, he's "appearing to be complimentary" but he's actually getting his points out there and trying to influence things in his favour. He's highlighting our "physicality" whilst wrapping it up in some jolly nice cotton wool, just in case the officials on the day aren't aware of it!! Let's not be fooled, he absolutely hates us!! (Because he secretly fears us)

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Re: Klopp again

Post by SalisburyClaret » Fri Feb 11, 2022 3:00 pm

I'd love Dyche to come out with something like "It's always tough against physical sides like Man U and Liverpool but having the best disciplinary record in the Premier League for so many years will stand us in good stead"

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Re: Klopp again

Post by BleedingClaret » Fri Feb 11, 2022 3:04 pm

Pearcey wrote:
Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:41 am
We’re in his head! Good.
Yes
Which can be to our advantage but he’s trying to get into the officials heads which is to their advantage
If the refs already primed that we’ll be fouling them it colours his impartiality

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Re: Klopp again

Post by Chester Perry » Fri Feb 11, 2022 3:05 pm

SalisburyClaret wrote:
Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:42 am
Klopp on Burnley: "I had the pleasure to watch Burnley against United. This situation explains the Premier League the best. The quality they produced was incredible. It was a proper team performance. There is a big possibility for them to still stay in the league.

"They brought in a new striker [Wout Weghorst]. If you saw the game, you would have seen he is a lively boy. He was very active all over the pitch. Burnley ask for all physicality you can put in a game, we cannot have the ball all the time and they are good when they have the ball.

"They have footballers everywhere. On top of that, the set-piece threat, we have to be aware and concentrated."
There seems to be a quite a bit of Bob Paisley's 'toffee' in that

for those unaware Paisley used to like to say nice things about opponents before some games, believing it could make them take their eye off the ball a little (or is that just enough) he used to refer to it as giving them some 'toffee'

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Re: Klopp again

Post by Archie Claret » Fri Feb 11, 2022 3:07 pm

Klopp is obviously learning from the master....This was highlighted by another poster some time ago. Sombody pointed out Paisley did the same thing "Sometimes this involved flattering the opposition before difficult games: what Paisley called 'giving them a bit of toffee'...."

I sense this is aimed at getting into the ref's mind also.

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Re: Klopp again

Post by Archie Claret » Fri Feb 11, 2022 3:12 pm

apologies Chester..too slow to type!

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Re: Klopp again

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Fri Feb 11, 2022 3:15 pm

I suspect all the refs are more aware of our 3 year red card record than any managers pre match comments. They’ll talk about us at length in their ref training sessions.

So I’m not too worried about Klippetty Klopp. He’s saying we will put up more of a threat than a typical bottom three side, probably true, although if United had gone 3 up on Tuesday I may have been concluding at that point we are like a bottom three side.

Let’s hope he is raging after the game.

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Re: Klopp again

Post by eastanglianclaret » Fri Feb 11, 2022 3:29 pm

There are some great words in German, that sound like what they mean, the verb kloppen for example means 'to fight or brawl'. As such you might say : Klopp erwartet eine regelrechte Klopperei! Meaning Klopp is expecting a real brawl, or something like that.

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Re: Klopp again

Post by dsr » Fri Feb 11, 2022 3:32 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Fri Feb 11, 2022 1:22 pm
Agree with your post although I think our first half display on Tuesday involved 'standing back and admiring'. I think by the end of Tuesday's game one or two players were 'treading water', excuse the pun, but 180 minutes plus inside three days in difficult conditions had understandably taken its toll. Hopefully a little more refreshed by Sunday and I just want to see us 'give them a game' and if that means, as you say, 'on the borderline' that's fine by me.
Not quite that bad. It was 180 minutes in 4 days, Saturday to Tuesday.

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Re: Klopp again

Post by Silkyskills1 » Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:33 pm

dsr wrote:
Fri Feb 11, 2022 3:32 pm
Not quite that bad. It was 180 minutes in 4 days, Saturday to Tuesday.
If we're going to be pedantic I'll round it up to 74 hours which makes 3 days and two hours.

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Re: Klopp again

Post by dsr » Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:47 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:33 pm
If we're going to be pedantic I'll round it up to 74 hours which makes 3 days and two hours.
I was simply being accurate.

Besides, if you want to be pedantic, you might as well get it right. We did not play 2 matches in any 74 hour period in the last week. Make it 76 hours. ;)

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Re: Klopp again

Post by boatshed bill » Fri Feb 11, 2022 5:53 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:14 pm
You must be desperate to whinge about Kloppp is all I can say. I thought his comments were largely positive even when he mentioned 'Physicality.'
Think what you like.
I put on the radio at work and his voice was the first thing I heard...yes, it may have been edited by TS, but he has deliberately created a talking point by emphasising our apparently physical approach to the game.

And i don't like him. ;)

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Re: Klopp again

Post by willsclarets » Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:49 pm

Apparently we have footballers everywhere and are very good with the ball. I have no idea who he's been watching

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Re: Klopp again

Post by MrTopTier » Sun Feb 13, 2022 11:30 am

'I don't think any other manager could have achieved what Sean has done at Burnley,' he said. 'The resources they have in comparison with other Premier League clubs is obviously not that good.

'Staying that stable in the Premier League is therefore a massive achievement I have to say. It's as big as winning the league with other clubs for sure. All my respect.'

The first time playing Burnley, it was, 'Oh my God'. Then you get experience and learn more, realise the battles around the touchline and stuff like this. It's part of the deal and my respect couldn't be bigger.'

All three paragraphs are quotes by Klopp, from the Press conference. Like Lancaster said read or listen to the whole interview. Very complimentary and respectful of what Dyche and Burnley have done.

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Re: Klopp again

Post by Darthlaw » Sun Feb 13, 2022 11:35 am

Stockbrokerbelt wrote:
Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:54 am
Wonder what his comments will be after the game?
If they win, it’ll be something complementary.

If anything else, it’ll be something mental to distract the press and weak minded from the fact his team haven’t been capable of the task.

Rinse, repeat.

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Re: Klopp again

Post by Silkyskills1 » Sun Feb 13, 2022 11:43 am

When did 74/76 hours equate to 4 days? Only 7 days in a week in Rossendale or 168 hours to be even more pedantic. As my US relatives would say, ' do the math'' ;) ;)

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