Brentford versus MIGHTY CLARETS

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:54 pm

NickBFC wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:51 pm
Kevin Long starting next game?

Put it this way.

There's more chance of Long starting the next game than Cork......

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:54 pm

Hugely disappointing. Good job we have twenty days to get it out of our systems. Just not doing the basics. Desperately need to work on our full backs positioning and concentration… but how did Tarks not have his man for the first? We need better from Tarks than he’s shown today… but the whole team needs another shot of confidence.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:54 pm

Wonder how much they are paying Erickson

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:55 pm

fidelcastro wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:51 pm
This will be the game we look back on as the one that seeled our fate, I'm afraid.

Not good enough.

That was Watford at home, for me.

A brief flurry reignited my hope (and our rivals being just as bad), but we’re done now. The whole team has no confidence (again) and the players we are relying on to create and score goals (Weghorst, Cornet and McNeil) are, on current form, not good enough for this level of football.

whiffa · Post by **whiffa** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:55 pm

Looked offside before the red card decision for me, but ofcourse that wasn't even checked. I'm just tired of questioning refereeing decisions week in week out, VAR was supposed to help remove corruption not re-inforce it. Irrespective of that, not good enough today - missed far too many chances. Game should have been dead and buried before they scored their first goal. We go again versus City, but even an optimistic fan like me might start to believe that's the end of our season.

Iloveyoubrady · Post by **Iloveyoubrady** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:55 pm

Embarrassing in the end but we actually played alright and probably deserved to win. Created more and better chances than them. We’re just having the worst, most unlucky season I can imagine. Seems to happen every week.

tally · Post by **tally** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:55 pm

to be fair 2-0 flatters Brentford but does not hide anything regarding our performance today

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:55 pm

The Erikson cross turned the game. A real touch of quality.

I thought it was a soft sending off for the penatly. The tug by the Brentford defender on Cornet was far more deliberate and much worse but went unpunished.

One of those days. The sides that didn't go down didn't lose to those around them.

I think Dyche got it wrong on a number of decisions today. He has got so many right in his time that I am not complaining about him. We're definitely not the same without Mee in the side.

claptrappers_union · Post by **claptrappers_union** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:55 pm

Collins is a crap player

BERNIEU · Post by **BERNIEU** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:55 pm

nyclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:53 pm
Time to go Sean.

I've never understood this. We're doing down, most will accept. So you keep him in the Championship - basic common sense as he knows how to get promoted.

Sheedyclaret · Post by **Sheedyclaret** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:55 pm

Any other club he'd of been potted months ago the club is stale

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:56 pm

We will be well adrift after we have lost to City in 20 days times time

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:56 pm

CoolClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:51 pm
He has been fit - that;s the thing

If Cork is fit and he can't get in ahead of Westwood the mind boggles, we gave ourselves hope with the wins over Brighton 7 Spurs, now all that effort has been thrown away with this spineless display today, and what's the common theme of the 3 straight defeats, Westwood starting all of them.

Firmly at the manger's door today, a pivotal game and we've apparently been rank rotten again, bar a notable mention for Tarks.

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:56 pm

CombatClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:54 pm
So this is the season our circumstances catch up with us.

Yes

This is the season we gave Hoof ball Dyche another four years

texasbrit · Post by **texasbrit** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:56 pm

Dyche press conference:-
"Small margins"
"we didn't get the luck"
"performances are improving"
"We are not far away"

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:56 pm

Still can't believe Westwood played ahead of Cork.

Incredible from Dyche. There just aren't any words for his incompetence this season.

NickBFC · Post by **NickBFC** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:56 pm

BurnleyFC wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:54 pm
My lad’s under 10s team play far better football than these clowns.

They wouldn't if Dyche was their manager.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:56 pm

FCBurnley wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:52 pm
Idiotic by Collins.

Not sure it mattered. No way it makes a difference to the result.

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:57 pm

Iloveyoubrady wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:55 pm
Embarrassing in the end but we actually played alright and probably deserved to win. Created more and better chances than them. We’re just having the worst, most unlucky season I can imagine. Seems to happen every week.

The story of our season-however fail to take chances are you are down

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:57 pm

Iloveyoubrady wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:55 pm
Embarrassing in the end but we actually played alright and probably deserved to win. Created more and better chances than them. We’re just having the worst, most unlucky season I can imagine. Seems to happen every week.

Idiotic comment

texasbrit · Post by **texasbrit** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:57 pm

Time for the owners to get rid Dyche, even his only tactic off hoof ball has become ineffective

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:57 pm

Sad end. We could easily have won that.

Roosterbooster · Post by **Roosterbooster** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:57 pm

I've been optimistic for weeks. But today has shown that when it really matters against the teams around us, we just don't show up and make it count. I think its all over

I dont think we deserved to lose. But you have to question Dyche. Why so much hoofball? And why take WW off? We looked good when we actually played football. Massive disappointment

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:57 pm

ksrclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:56 pm
Still can't believe Westwood played ahead of Cork.

Incredible from Dyche. There just aren't any words for his incompetence this season.

I have to say, I’m not “Dyche Out” but these sort of decisions are appalling. As was taking Weghorst off.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:57 pm

Iloveyoubrady wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:55 pm
Embarrassing in the end but we actually played alright and probably deserved to win. Created more and better chances than them. We’re just having the worst, most unlucky season I can imagine. Seems to happen every week.

Sorry what was unlucky about today? Our poor finishing is not luck. Jay Rod hitting the bar perhaps but that would have been a goal of the season contender. Our best chance came from their mistake.

We haven’t scored a goal in games against Brentford, Norwich, Watford and Newcastle, that’s poor.

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:58 pm

FCBurnley wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:54 pm
Wonder how much they are paying Erickson

How much are we paying Westwood !!

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:58 pm

Westwood pass distribution is circa 70-80% backwards or sideways his forward balls or launches.. corks distribution is 50-60% sideways are backwards. His go forward balls are more passes than launches.. that 20% more go forward makes all the difference

ceborame · Post by **ceborame** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:58 pm

I'm thinking that because Dyche was a lower league pro and a centre half as well, that he thinks that this is how football should be played ? It's inexplicable that he picked Westwood ahead of Cork

boyyanno · Post by **boyyanno** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:58 pm

This game is the straw that broke the camels back for me.

Wrong team selection and poor tactics. If Dyche doesn't hold his hands up then I want him gone. He changed a winning team and his decision to leave Cork out is baffling. It's the first time I've really felt this way but the managers reluctance to change personal and tactics now appears to be doing more harm than good and that's just not good enough.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:58 pm

warksclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:54 pm
Said it many times-the table wont lie after 38 games. I think we just may be the worst side in the PL at present

Leeds have lost their last 6 with a goal difference of -19. Norwich one point in last 6 with -12 GD.

Poor today including from Dyche.

Belgianclaret · Post by **Belgianclaret** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:58 pm

Moment of Erikssen quality undid us.

If you leave him some space, he’ll deliver.

To be fair we weren’t at the races. Do not understand why an under par Cornet was nog substituted…

Not looking good now

Denno97 · Post by **Denno97** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:58 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:54 pm
How were them margins today Sean?

Fine

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:58 pm

Pathetic.

Moorite · Post by **Moorite** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:58 pm

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:56 pm
Not sure it mattered. No way it makes a difference to the result.

The 3 game ban makes a difference

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:58 pm

jedi_master wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:55 pm
That was Watford at home, for me.

A brief flurry reignited my hope (and our rivals being just as bad), but we’re done now. The whole team has no confidence (again) and the players we are relying on to create and score goals (Weghorst, Cornet and McNeil) are, on current form, not good enough for this level of football.

But we've had the chances to get out of that bottom three. We just don't have the sufficient quality. Cornet looks a shadow of the player we first bought. With Manchester city up next it would be the mother of all great escapes if we stayed up now.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:58 pm

Sheedyclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:55 pm
Any other club he'd of been potted months ago the club is stale

Instead we dish out a four year contract

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:58 pm

In a game you have to win, we turn in that performance. That reeks of playing for a draw.

Utterly, utterly baffling. I cannot understand how we are capable of playing such good high tempo high pressing football, then produce that.

Not as bad as Leeds away, but pretty close.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:58 pm

Absolute dog sh*t

Apart from Brownhill that midfield was shocking.

We're going down cos we're crap.

Leyland Claret · Post by **Leyland Claret** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:58 pm

There is nothing else I can say that’s different from anybody else. Shocking and our time in the Prem is up.

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:59 pm

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:57 pm
I have to say, I’m not “Dyche Out” but these sort of decisions are appalling. As was taking Weghorst off.

It just defies all logic.

Did we win games and look decent with Cork? Yes

Did we look a shadow of that team and back to the hopeless hoofing as soon as Westwood came back in? Yes.

Westwood gets the nod. Unfathomable to everyone apart from the one man who decides.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:59 pm

Moorite wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:58 pm
The 3 game ban makes a difference

it will be a one game ban - he will miss Man City

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:00 pm

fidelcastro wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:58 pm
But we've had the chances to get out of that bottom three. We just don't have the sufficient quality. Cornet looks a shadow of the player we first bought. With Manchester city up next it would be the mother of all great escapes if we stayed up now.

Absolutely - we can have no complaints. The team has done well against the big sides and got stage fright in the crunch games that matter.

They have no ********.

BennyD · Post by **BennyD** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:00 pm

Without Ben Mee at the back, we don't win. His absence has been critical and the sooner he's back the better. This one is a sickener, hard to take.

ClaretMov · Post by **ClaretMov** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:01 pm

BERNIEU wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:55 pm
I've never understood this. We're doing down, most will accept. So you keep him in the Championship - basic common sense as he knows how to get promoted.

Promoted back then back to playing outdated football under Dyche in the Premier league........NO THANKS

ClaretAL · Post by **ClaretAL** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:01 pm

If Dyche doesn't hold his hand up fir that then I'm absolutely done. I gave backed hi through thick and thin but that result is down to him, poor selection, poor substitution, no tactics, on a must win game, incompetent at best, negligent may be

texasbrit · Post by **texasbrit** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:01 pm

do you get rid now and give someone else a very small glimmer of hope
or keep him for the championship, do we think he can even get us out of the championship playing football of this quality irrespective of who the opposition are

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:01 pm

Moorite wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:58 pm
The 3 game ban makes a difference

Think it’s two isn’t it?

Tbh, it didn’t look a red to me. Leaned in to him but not an awful foul. Denial of a goal scoring opportunity debatable given Charlie was covering.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:01 pm

Just one touch of class From Eriksen made all the difference today, if only we had someone with so much class in our midfield (Defour) things would be different poor poor game from two poor poor sides.

BERNIEU · Post by **BERNIEU** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:01 pm

texasbrit wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:57 pm
Time for the owners to get rid Dyche, even his only tactic off hoof ball has become ineffective

Great idea. We're going down, so let's get rid of the manager who's got us promoted from the Championship twice.

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:01 pm

claptrappers_union wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:55 pm
Collins is a crap player

Collins is an excellent centre half and will only get better, just got his challenge wrong in the end