Ukrainian refugees sponsorship scheme

[dougcollins]

All terrorists, to a woman. And child.

[MG70]

We’ve just spent the last 2 years locked up in our own homes, most of the people on here agreed with the harsh measures put in place by the inept government who now say refugees can come in but the public will have to look after them. You were more than willing to to take several doses of a vaccine that has had catastrophic side effects for hundreds of thousands of people. Yet you are willing to take in people from one of the least vaccinated countries in Europe?

[Burnley1989]

We’ve just spent the last 2 years locked up in our own homes, most of the people on here agreed with the harsh measures put in place by the inept government who now say refugees can come in but the public will have to look after them. You were more than willing to to take several doses of a vaccine that has had catastrophic side effects for hundreds of thousands of people. Yet you are willing to take in people from one of the least vaccinated countries in Europe?

What the hell are you waffling on about

[fidelcastro]

We’ve just spent the last 2 years locked up in our own homes, most of the people on here agreed with the harsh measures put in place by the inept government who now say refugees can come in but the public will have to look after them. You were more than willing to to take several doses of a vaccine that has had catastrophic side effects for hundreds of thousands of people. Yet you are willing to take in people from one of the least vaccinated countries in Europe?

Wow, that's some drivel!

[Willieonthewing]

We’ve just spent the last 2 years locked up in our own homes, most of the people on here agreed with the harsh measures put in place by the inept government who now say refugees can come in but the public will have to look after them. You were more than willing to to take several doses of a vaccine that has had catastrophic side effects for hundreds of thousands of people. Yet you are willing to take in people from one of the least vaccinated countries in Europe?

What a load of guff..... No wonder politics is allegedly banned on here

[MG70]

What is it that I’ve said is incorrect?

[fidelcastro]

What is it that I’ve said is incorrect?

Erm... all of it.

[LeadBelly]

We’ve just spent the last 2 years locked up in our own homes, most of the people on here agreed with the harsh measures put in place by the inept government who now say refugees can come in but the public will have to look after them. You were more than willing to to take several doses of a vaccine that has had catastrophic side effects for hundreds of thousands of people. Yet you are willing to take in people from one of the least vaccinated countries in Europe?

Public doesn't HAVE TO look after anybody (other than hopefully themselves). Its entirely voluntary and c 100,000 have already volunteered.
Where is your evidence that "hundrerds of thousands of people" have had "catastrophic side effects"? Unless a bit of a headache is catastrophic to you.

[taio]

We’ve just spent the last 2 years locked up in our own homes, most of the people on here agreed with the harsh measures put in place by the inept government who now say refugees can come in but the public will have to look after them. You were more than willing to to take several doses of a vaccine that has had catastrophic side effects for hundreds of thousands of people. Yet you are willing to take in people from one of the least vaccinated countries in Europe?

Crikey, where do you start with this

[MG70]

Public doesn't HAVE TO look after anybody (other than hopefully themselves). Its entirely voluntary and c 100,000 have already volunteered.
Where is your evidence that "hundrerds of thousands of people" have had "catastrophic side effects"? Unless a bit of a headache is catastrophic to you.

For one, you’ve seen all the sportsmen and women all over the world keeling over on pitches and fields?
My mother was taken into hospital 3 days after having the jab suffering from uncontrollable shaking, less than 3 weeks later she was dead. I’d say that was catastrophic wouldn’t you?

[fidelcastro]

For one, you’ve seen all the sportsmen and women all over the world keeling over on pitches and fields?
My mother was taken into hospital 3 days after having the jab suffering from uncontrollable shaking, less than 3 weeks later she was dead. I’d say that was catastrophic wouldn’t you?

It's tinfoil hat time!

[TheFamilyCat]

Don't worry, when they arrive in the UK, Jakub will be on hand to offer his counselling advice.

At which point they'll think they'd have been better off staying put.

[MG70]

It's tinfoil hat time!

I take it you just read the first sentence? I can’t think of any other reason for that insensitive comment.

[DCWat]

For one, you’ve seen all the sportsmen and women all over the world keeling over on pitches and fields?
My mother was taken into hospital 3 days after having the jab suffering from uncontrollable shaking, less than 3 weeks later she was dead. I’d say that was catastrophic wouldn’t you?

Firstly, I’m sorry to hear about your Mum, MG70.

I think though, to suggest that there have been catastrophic side effects to hundreds of thousands of people from Covid vaccines, is a massively exaggerated statement.

What evidence do you have of this? A handful of very sad incidents involving sportspeople is hardly that - we’ve seen these sort of things long before Covid vaccines.

I’m sure that there will be some people who have suffered severe or even fatal side effects, but hundreds of thousands? Come on.

[chorleyhere]

The responses on this forum to the Ukrainian sponsorship scheme reflect a wide variety of views. Some are heartwarming and some are harsh and misleading. One thing above all is absolutely sure - we have a democracy, we have freedom of speech and we should remember the sacrifices made by people in the past that helped to provide this to our present generations whereas those living in Russia and its satellite states do not.

To misquote a saying, "Charity begins with a home" - anyone who can help to provide someone fleeing from war-torn Ukraine with a home, even for six months is showing humanitarian concern and worthwhile charity.

[fidelcastro]

I take it you just read the first sentence? I can’t think of any other reason for that insensitive comment.

No. I read all of it.

On one hand you're claiming that people are being irresponsible for allowing potentially unvaccinated refugees into their homes, whilst on the other stating that it's the vaccine itself that is a killer, so which is it?

[KRBFC]

What about our own? like the homeless ex military sleeping on the streets?

Where's the sponsorship scheme's for them to receive help?

[KRBFC]

Just signed up, finger's crossed we are picked to help out a family, we live in a large four floored five bed house and all but one of our children have moved out meaning we have two spare bedrooms and a bathroom on a entire floor going spare, we were considering down scaling but will put this off for a while, if you can do this do it you never know you may need someone's help one day

Of course you did, anything for a quick buck. I highly doubt you would be so quick to open up your door for homeless English people though...

[fidelcastro]

Of course you did, anything for a quick buck. I highly doubt you would be so quick to open up your door for homeless English people though...

Wow. You've just stooped to a new low, which coming from you is really saying something!

You really think he's doing this for the money?

I pity you.

[taio]

Of course you did, anything for a quick buck. I highly doubt you would be so quick to open up your door for homeless English people though...

Do you consider this acceptable?

[LeadBelly]

For one, you’ve seen all the sportsmen and women all over the world keeling over on pitches and fields?
My mother was taken into hospital 3 days after having the jab suffering from uncontrollable shaking, less than 3 weeks later she was dead. I’d say that was catastrophic wouldn’t you?

Sorry to hear about your mother, that must've been very upsetting.
Did the post mortem indicate that the vaccine was the cause/a contributing factor?

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Of course you did, anything for a quick buck. I highly doubt you would be so quick to open up your door for homeless English people though...

Just drop it fella.

I've seen this agenda being pushed on twitter by others like you and it's not being received well on there either.
It's not the time and place for it.

[morpheus2]

It's just so unfair when someone throws a dead mother in as their trump card.
My mum would be turning in her grave if she had one.

[Jakubclaret]

No. I read all of it.

On one hand you're claiming that people are being irresponsible for allowing potentially unvaccinated refugees into their homes, whilst on the other stating that it's the vaccine itself that is a killer, so which is it?

I’d wager a guess that the strong candidates could be people that are so blasé about mask wearing & completely dismissive of scientific evidence. Some people have good solid grounded reasoning regarding the unvaccinated refugees.

[fidelcastro]

I’d wager a guess that the strong candidates could be people that are so blasé about mask wearing & completely dismissive of scientific evidence. Some people have good solid grounded reasoning regarding the unvaccinated refugees.

I've read that several times, but I still can't see where it answers my question.

[Jakubclaret]

I've read that several times, but I still can't see where it answers my question.

A question that doesn’t make any sense isn’t worthy of a sensible reply perhaps.

[fidelcastro]

A question that doesn’t make any sense isn’t worthy of a sensible reply perhaps.

How does my question not make any sense?

There really are some loons on here. I'm out!

[ClaretLoup]

What about our own? like the homeless ex military sleeping on the streets?

Where's the sponsorship scheme's for them to receive help?

There is one already, you prize ignoramus

“if you are sleeping rough or have no permanent address, you are still entitled to benefits – those who have no fixed abode can use the address of a friend or family member, a hostel or day centre, or even the local job centre on the application form. “

As you are so quick to vilify others who have offered the hand of kindness perhaps you would like to tell us what you do to support the homeless.

[ClaretMov]

Of course you did, anything for a quick buck. I highly doubt you would be so quick to open up your door for homeless English people though...

Quick buck, I'll probably lose money but without trying to sound smart I can afford it, we'll buy the clothing even though its not part of the scheme, we'll pay for their food and cook for them even though its not part of the scheme, I've said previously after extra bills all money left over from the £350 will be given to the family.

I'm not in this to make a single penny. We'll help them find school's, doctors, dentists and fill in form's for benefits or employment even though its not part of the scheme, my wife and daughter who are both teacher's will help teach them English if needed even though its not part of the scheme, that says more about my family than you, on the subject of you and bringing up the homeless in our own country I also do plenty for that cause to, what do you do for them it must bother you because you mentioned them.

[Burnley1989]

Quick buck, I'll probably lose money but without trying to sound smart I can afford it, we'll buy the clothing even though its not part of the scheme, we'll pay for their food and cook for them even though its not part of the scheme, I've said previously after extra bills all money left over from the £350 will be given to the family.

I'm not in this to make a single penny. We'll help them find school's, doctors, dentists and fill in form's for benefits or employment even though its not part of the scheme, my wife and daughter who are both teacher's will help teach them English if needed even though its not part of the scheme, that says more about my family than you, on the subject of you and bringing up the homeless in our own country I also do plenty for that cause to, what do you do for them it must bother you because you mentioned them.

I’d not even give him the time of day mate, I’ll not type what my opinion is as he reported me and got me a ban last time. In hindsight I wish I hadn’t but it doesn’t change my opinion

[arise_sir_charge]

I’d not even give him the time of day mate, I’ll not type what my opinion is as he reported me and got me a ban last time. In hindsight I wish I hadn’t but it doesn’t change my opinion

I’ll say it. He’s a colossal bell end.

[pushpinpussy]

What about our own? like the homeless ex military sleeping on the streets?

Where's the sponsorship scheme's for them to receive help?

this is a very good point but maybe not the correct thread to bring it up

[claretonthecoast1882]

Quick buck, I'll probably lose money but without trying to sound smart I can afford it, we'll buy the clothing even though its not part of the scheme, we'll pay for their food and cook for them even though its not part of the scheme, I've said previously after extra bills all money left over from the £350 will be given to the family.

I'm not in this to make a single penny. We'll help them find school's, doctors, dentists and fill in form's for benefits or employment even though its not part of the scheme, my wife and daughter who are both teacher's will help teach them English if needed even though its not part of the scheme, that says more about my family than you, on the subject of you and bringing up the homeless in our own country I also do plenty for that cause to, what do you do for them it must bother you because you mentioned them.

You need to remember he has no experience of the real world. He thinks the £350 will pay for a couple of nights out, a meal with the mrs and maybe an away game.

When people still live at home and have never had to run their own home they have no idea what the level of expense is and his only hardship in life is making his pocket money last until each weekend. Would love to know how much the tool thinks it would cost just to house 1 person per month paying for everything they need.

[Quickenthetempo]

Quick buck, I'll probably lose money but without trying to sound smart I can afford it, we'll buy the clothing even though its not part of the scheme, we'll pay for their food and cook for them even though its not part of the scheme, I've said previously after extra bills all money left over from the £350 will be given to the family.

I'm not in this to make a single penny. We'll help them find school's, doctors, dentists and fill in form's for benefits or employment even though its not part of the scheme, my wife and daughter who are both teacher's will help teach them English if needed even though its not part of the scheme, that says more about my family than you, on the subject of you and bringing up the homeless in our own country I also do plenty for that cause to, what do you do for them it must bother you because you mentioned them.

There are groups on facebook that are linking people up and links to other bigger sites that are doing the same.

Plenty of people have offered rooms etc... Good luck

[Quickenthetempo]

Just read that 17k refugees have indicated they want to come to the UK and 150k have offered rooms.

[Lancasterclaret]

I’ll say it. He’s a colossal bell end.

If you block him, then he just, well, disappears

Its the only thing that works with the trolls

[Loyal Supporter]

Quick buck, I'll probably lose money but without trying to sound smart I can afford it, we'll buy the clothing even though its not part of the scheme, we'll pay for their food and cook for them even though its not part of the scheme, I've said previously after extra bills all money left over from the £350 will be given to the family.

I'm not in this to make a single penny. We'll help them find school's, doctors, dentists and fill in form's for benefits or employment even though its not part of the scheme, my wife and daughter who are both teacher's will help teach them English if needed even though its not part of the scheme, that says more about my family than you, on the subject of you and bringing up the homeless in our own country I also do plenty for that cause to, what do you do for them it must bother you because you mentioned them.

If you are successful in temporarily housing any of the refugees, please can you keep us informed on yours and their situation. Such as schooling, entertainment, leisure activities etc, as I am not able to take refugees, but am more than willing to help anyone that does.

[ClaretMov]

If you are successful in temporarily housing any of the refugees, please can you keep us informed on yours and their situation. Such as schooling, entertainment, leisure activities etc, as I am not able to take refugees, but am more than willing to help anyone that does.

Thank you, very much appreciated, its nice to know there're other like minded people in this world like almost everyone who post's on here

[RicardoMontalban]

Of course you did, anything for a quick buck. I highly doubt you would be so quick to open up your door for homeless English people though...

This is such a cynical, ill thought out, argument. As if there is any equivalence between families fleeing a war zone who would much rather stay in their homes but can’t, and individuals who for a myriad of complex reasons find themselves homeless (in the overwhelming majority of cases).

There exist support services who have the specific purpose of working with homeless people to address these issues, there should be more but that’s a discussion for a different day. But they exist. The average Joe does not have those skill sets to simply throw open their door and invite a homeless person in. And nor should they, the state should provide that specialist help.

The same mechanisms do not exist for a refugee on this scale. Again, you could argue they should, but they don’t, and perhaps people stepping forward to offer to help should be seen as a positive. There hasn’t been a lot of those in a while.

[paulatky]

What is it that I’ve said is incorrect?

Castastrophic side effects of hundreds of thousands of people