Fat Lady isn't even gargling yet

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Re: Fat Lady isn't even gargling yet

Post by burnley007 » Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:36 pm

The fat lady is almost on to the chorus

We look doomed unfortunately

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Re: Fat Lady isn't even gargling yet

Post by Wile E Coyote » Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:43 pm

bags of time left to get to safety, relax.

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Re: Fat Lady isn't even gargling yet

Post by ElectroClaret » Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:53 pm

Andreshotboots wrote:
Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:22 pm
That oil protesting **** has basically put another nail in our coffin
We've hammered quite a few in ourselves.
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Re: Fat Lady isn't even gargling yet

Post by dsr » Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:55 pm

Andreshotboots wrote:
Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:22 pm
That oil protesting **** has basically put another nail in our coffin
Was he protesting about oil? Hope they make him walk to prison then. Preferably Parkhurst!

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Re: Fat Lady isn't even gargling yet

Post by gawthorpe_view » Fri Mar 18, 2022 10:02 pm

She's doing a few scales right now.

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Re: Fat Lady isn't even gargling yet

Post by BabylonClaret » Fri Mar 18, 2022 10:07 pm

The last 2 weeks have been an utter disaster results wise for us and around us. It's co.pletely undone the decent ru we put together going into that.

Times running out and although a few wins could change it completely (look at how Newcastle morphed into a side that suddenly started winning from a complete and utter shambles) its getting much more difficult to stop the despondency and at the moment the momentum is not at Turf Moor.

Saturday's winner for Brentford was a huge hammer blow

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Re: Fat Lady isn't even gargling yet

Post by Andreshotboots » Fri Mar 18, 2022 10:15 pm

BabylonClaret wrote:
Fri Mar 18, 2022 10:07 pm
The last 2 weeks have been an utter disaster results wise for us and around us. It's co.pletely undone the decent ru we put together going into that.

Times running out and although a few wins could change it completely (look at how Newcastle morphed into a side that suddenly started winning from a complete and utter shambles) its getting much more difficult to stop the despondency and at the moment the momentum is not at Turf Moor.

Saturday's winner for Brentford was a huge hammer blow
Don't think they could have been much worse but that's what can happen with teams who have creativity. Could you see us turning around a two goal deficit to win against ten men, or pushing, and creating a well worked winner like Everton did last night when they only had 10? Not a chance...we've had our opportunities to win games, and to hold onto leads when we've gone in front and we've blown it..

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Re: Fat Lady isn't even gargling yet

Post by bfcjg » Fri Mar 18, 2022 10:15 pm

Tonsils are wobbling.

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Re: Fat Lady isn't even gargling yet

Post by Wokingclaret » Fri Mar 18, 2022 10:20 pm

Her false teeth have been taken out

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Re: Fat Lady isn't even gargling yet

Post by BabylonClaret » Fri Mar 18, 2022 10:20 pm

To be honest it feels like she's packing up her kit in the van after the last 2 weeks

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Re: Fat Lady isn't even gargling yet

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Fri Mar 18, 2022 10:26 pm

If the likes of WEEDS, NEWCA$T£E and BENT-FORD can do it, so can we. Still 11 games to go ! COYC !

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Re: Fat Lady isn't even gargling yet

Post by bfcjg » Fri Mar 18, 2022 10:40 pm

RalphCoatesComb wrote:
Fri Mar 18, 2022 10:26 pm
If the likes of WEEDS, NEWCA$T£E and BENT-FORD can do it, so can we. Still 11 games to go ! COYC !
Oh Ralph, come on, the maestro that was Ralph Coates had a comb over to disguise his bold top, we need one hell of a comb over to disguise our imminent relegation.

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Re: Fat Lady isn't even gargling yet

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Fri Mar 18, 2022 10:51 pm

bfcjg wrote:
Fri Mar 18, 2022 10:40 pm
Oh Ralph, come on, the maestro that was Ralph Coates had a comb over to disguise his bold top, we need one hell of a comb over to disguise our imminent relegation.
And? We've been relegated before, and will be again. We need to get behind the team. IF we go down, let's go down with a fight, not a whimper.

If you remember Ralph, remember that HE WAS NEVER A QUITTER !

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Re: Fat Lady isn't even gargling yet

Post by boatshed bill » Fri Mar 18, 2022 11:04 pm

RalphCoatesComb wrote:
Fri Mar 18, 2022 10:26 pm
If the likes of WEEDS, NEWCA$T£E and BENT-FORD can do it, so can we. Still 11 games to go ! COYC !
I'd be surprised if we win more than 3 games between now and the end of the season.

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Re: Fat Lady isn't even gargling yet

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Fri Mar 18, 2022 11:05 pm

Someone shoot the fat f***er

(Don't worry, she's not real)

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Re: Fat Lady isn't even gargling yet

Post by bfcjg » Fri Mar 18, 2022 11:13 pm

RalphCoatesComb wrote:
Fri Mar 18, 2022 10:51 pm
And? We've been relegated before, and will be again. We need to get behind the team. IF we go down, let's go down with a fight, not a whimper.

If you remember Ralph, remember that HE WAS NEVER A QUITTER !
Dyche would have had Ralph tracking back, protecting his full back, not crossing the half way line if the attack on the opposite side was only 5 yards across the halfway line.
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Re: Fat Lady isn't even gargling yet

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Fri Mar 18, 2022 11:35 pm

bfcjg wrote:
Fri Mar 18, 2022 11:13 pm
Dyche would have had Ralph tracking back, protecting his full back, not crossing the half way line if the attack on the opposite side was only 5 yards across the halfway line.
He's here, he's there, he's every ******* where :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Fat Lady isn't even gargling yet

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Fri Mar 18, 2022 11:37 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Fri Mar 18, 2022 11:04 pm
I'd be surprised if we win more than 3 games between now and the end of the season.
I'll take that bet ;)

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Re: Fat Lady isn't even gargling yet

Post by Quicknick » Sun Mar 20, 2022 7:12 am

33 points to play for.

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Re: Fat Lady isn't even gargling yet

Post by JohnDearyMe » Sun Mar 20, 2022 7:41 am

Quicknick wrote:
Sun Mar 20, 2022 7:12 am
33 points to play for.
Funny when you put it like that. I sadly don't think I've ever been so sure of us getting relegated before with such a good chunk of the season left. Hope I'm proved wrong though

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Re: Fat Lady isn't even gargling yet

Post by JohnMac » Sun Mar 20, 2022 7:58 am

Last season Fulham had the media trying to portray a team that was far better than they actually were.

This season the media don't say very much about us, it's as if we don't exist. The punditry have by and large assumed we will pick up enough points because we have done it before.

The Fat Lady has probably never heard of Burnley :D

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Re: Fat Lady isn't even gargling yet

Post by Hibsclaret » Sun Mar 20, 2022 8:06 am

All to play for. Beat Everton and the bums will be squeaking louder at Everton and Leeds. Both of those teams were lucky this week but their luck may run out. Frank Lampard prancing around like a 5 year old with their last minute winner and Leeds getting yet another appalling decision from a referee and VAR.

There’s one man you can bank on for calmness and professionalism for the next few weeks and that our Sean. Absolutely head and shoulders above the other managers in the dogfight. That will prove to be the difference in the end.

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Re: Fat Lady isn't even gargling yet

Post by beddie » Sun Mar 20, 2022 8:10 am

Hibsclaret wrote:
Sun Mar 20, 2022 8:06 am
All to play for. Beat Everton and the bums will be squeaking louder at Everton and Leeds. Both of those teams were lucky this week but their luck may run out. Frank Lampard prancing around like a 5 year old with their last minute winner and Leeds getting yet another appalling decision from a referee and VAR.

There’s one man you can bank on for calmness and professionalism for the next few weeks and that our Sean. Absolutely head and shoulders above the other managers in the dogfight. That will prove to be the difference in the end.
Hibs. Which var decision do you mean, if it involves the Harrison goal I couldn’t see anything wrong with it, unless I’ve missed something.

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Re: Fat Lady isn't even gargling yet

Post by Hibsclaret » Sun Mar 20, 2022 8:13 am

The sending off that changed the whole match and basically gave them 3 points
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Re: Fat Lady isn't even gargling yet

Post by bumba » Sun Mar 20, 2022 8:15 am

Hibsclaret wrote:
Sun Mar 20, 2022 8:06 am
All to play for. Beat Everton and the bums will be squeaking louder at Everton and Leeds. Both of those teams were lucky this week but their luck may run out. Frank Lampard prancing around like a 5 year old with their last minute winner and Leeds getting yet another appalling decision from a referee and VAR.

There’s one man you can bank on for calmness and professionalism for the next few weeks and that our Sean. Absolutely head and shoulders above the other managers in the dogfight. That will prove to be the difference in the end.
Normally I'd agree, looking at the fixtures to play between us and Everton we could quite easily take a lot more points than them BUT performances and lack of change to tactics/style over the past 18 months when we've been on an awful run doesn't bode for much belief

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Re: Fat Lady isn't even gargling yet

Post by Hibsclaret » Sun Mar 20, 2022 8:16 am

The last 18 months are irrelevant when we’ve recently beaten Brighton and Spurs. We are always capable of winning games particularly when we absolutely need to under this manager

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Re: Fat Lady isn't even gargling yet

Post by ClaretMov » Sun Mar 20, 2022 8:39 am

Hibsclaret we needed to beat Brentford, Leicester, Watford, Newcastle etc etc etc
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Re: Fat Lady isn't even gargling yet

Post by bobinho » Sun Mar 20, 2022 8:53 am

beddie wrote:
Sun Mar 20, 2022 8:10 am
Hibs. Which var decision do you mean, if it involves the Harrison goal I couldn’t see anything wrong with it, unless I’ve missed something.
Maybe, like me, he thought there was more than a passing glance of an offside in their goal. In fact, watching it replayed on the screen I would’ve bet serious money it would’ve been chalked off. The wolves defender ended up in the goalmouth…. I was always of the opinion that meant the player was off the pitch meaning any forward pass had players offside.

Wasn’t to be though…. I’m sure the decision was correct. I see all sorts of daft decisions that have me shouting at the tellybox, only to have it explained why handball isn’t handball anymore, or why he is/isn’t offside because the captain is wearing rainbow laces.

Anyway, it’s been fun. I have particularly enjoyed watching us defend like lions against some of the big boys and giving them a bloody nose, but it looks like this was a season too far.

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Re: Fat Lady isn't even gargling yet

Post by Elizabeth » Sun Mar 20, 2022 9:05 am

There’s not a lot you can do about injuries to key defenders but there is something you can do about poor team selection.
Still time left yet to return to the ‘Brighton, Spurs week’ form , but it is running out and for me boils down to how much confidence people have in the manager
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Re: Fat Lady isn't even gargling yet

Post by expoultryboy » Sun Mar 20, 2022 9:22 am

The difference now if we go down Ralph , is we're in a rather sticky financial situation .
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Re: Fat Lady isn't even gargling yet

Post by mdd2 » Sun Mar 20, 2022 9:32 am

This season is almost a reverse of the 61-62 season where fixture congestion did for us
We have had a recent run of 8 games in 28 days and now we are having 6 games over 22 days with one of the smallest squads in the league
We will look back on these games where we lost it IMO. The mini revival we saw seems to have ended. The straw that broke our back will be this congestion of fixtures and a small ageing squad

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Re: Fat Lady isn't even gargling yet

Post by dsr » Sun Mar 20, 2022 5:03 pm

bobinho wrote:
Sun Mar 20, 2022 8:53 am
Maybe, like me, he thought there was more than a passing glance of an offside in their goal. In fact, watching it replayed on the screen I would’ve bet serious money it would’ve been chalked off. The wolves defender ended up in the goalmouth…. I was always of the opinion that meant the player was off the pitch meaning any forward pass had players offside.

Wasn’t to be though…. I’m sure the decision was correct. I see all sorts of daft decisions that have me shouting at the tellybox, only to have it explained why handball isn’t handball anymore, or why he is/isn’t offside because the captain is wearing rainbow laces.

Anyway, it’s been fun. I have particularly enjoyed watching us defend like lions against some of the big boys and giving them a bloody nose, but it looks like this was a season too far.
A defender who has gone off the field (other than with permission) behind the goalline is counted as being on the goalline. You can't play someone offside by stepping off the field, accidentally or deliberately. (They might make an exception for someone who has crashed over the touchline and is receiving treatment while play goes on, but not for someone who just happens to have rolled that way in a split second of action.)
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Re: Fat Lady isn't even gargling yet

Post by dsr » Sun Mar 20, 2022 5:08 pm

mdd2 wrote:
Sun Mar 20, 2022 9:32 am
This season is almost a reverse of the 61-62 season where fixture congestion did for us
We have had a recent run of 8 games in 28 days and now we are having 6 games over 22 days with one of the smallest squads in the league
We will look back on these games where we lost it IMO. The mini revival we saw seems to have ended. The straw that broke our back will be this congestion of fixtures and a small ageing squad
Put another way, we've just had a week off, and in the next 5 weeks we have 4 weekend games and 2 midweek games. Having to play two midweek fixtures in a month, does not constitute fixture congestion.

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Re: Fat Lady isn't even gargling yet

Post by bobinho » Sun Mar 20, 2022 5:31 pm

mdd2 wrote:
Sun Mar 20, 2022 9:32 am
This season is almost a reverse of the 61-62 season where fixture congestion did for us
We have had a recent run of 8 games in 28 days and now we are having 6 games over 22 days with one of the smallest squads in the league
We will look back on these games where we lost it IMO. The mini revival we saw seems to have ended. The straw that broke our back will be this congestion of fixtures and a small ageing squad
Three wins all season so far is what’s broken our back. That’s relegation form, and it would take Houdini, Copperfield and Blaine combined to get us anywhere near escaping the drop.

What we have left can hardly be described as congestion. Busy? Yeah, a little, but it’s not congestion, and I fail to see how games we haven’t yet played can be blamed for our (probable) relegation.

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Re: Fat Lady isn't even gargling yet

Post by elwaclaret » Sun Mar 20, 2022 5:40 pm

She’s reaching for the Listerine now… we need to see a lot more of the Burnley that played Spurs than our regular levels this season to put this right now.

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Re: Fat Lady isn't even gargling yet

Post by NRC » Sun Mar 20, 2022 6:23 pm

Assuming we get beat by City, I don’t see us being any worse off than we are now. In fact, it’s probably all marginal gains after April 2nd/3rd

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Re: Fat Lady isn't even gargling yet

Post by bobinho » Sun Mar 20, 2022 6:42 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Sun Mar 20, 2022 5:40 pm
She’s reaching for the Listerine now… we need to see a lot more of the Burnley that played Spurs than our regular levels this season to put this right now.
Agree. But only one man can do anything about that. Question is…. Will he? We know he’s stubborn, so will he see it as a U turn by making the changes back into the side and tactics that worked so well for those three games?
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Re: Fat Lady isn't even gargling yet

Post by claretandbluesky » Sun Mar 20, 2022 6:42 pm

We have to be brave and experiment otherwise we’re down.

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Re: Fat Lady isn't even gargling yet

Post by superdimitri » Mon Mar 28, 2022 2:30 pm

Where are we going to make some cash from selling players in the future? As time goes on we generally have signed players older and older. Supposed McNeil, Tarkowski and Pope leave in the summer that leaves us only with Collins that we may make any kind of money on.. and even that's not guaranteed.

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Re: Fat Lady isn't even gargling yet

Post by Jakubclaret » Mon Mar 28, 2022 2:51 pm

claretandbluesky wrote:
Sun Mar 20, 2022 6:42 pm
We have to be brave and experiment otherwise we’re down.
At this stage we do because we’ve got absolutely nothing to lose by going gung ho the defensive pragmatic framework just won’t get us the victories we need, I’d rather us have a go even if we get walloped than try & sit back & sneak something.

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Re: Fat Lady isn't even gargling yet

Post by expoultryboy » Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:14 pm

You really think Sean can/will experiment ?

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Re: Fat Lady isn't even gargling yet

Post by tiger76 » Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:22 pm

superdimitri wrote:
Mon Mar 28, 2022 2:30 pm
Where are we going to make some cash from selling players in the future? As time goes on we generally have signed players older and older. Supposed McNeil, Tarkowski and Pope leave in the summer that leaves us only with Collins that we may make any kind of money on.. and even that's not guaranteed.
Hopefully in the summer we'll recruit a fair number of younger players with the potential to improve. and really we'll need to if we want to ensure we'll have saleable assets down the line.

And assuming we are in the Championship this approach should be easier, I totally agree we've allowed the squad to age over the past several windows, and now that policy is sadly coming home to roost big time.

One advantage is we have a lot of the older guys OOC this summer, so I sincerely hope we decide to let most of them leave, and that the scouts are busy at work identifying viable targets.

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Re: Fat Lady isn't even gargling yet

Post by bobinho » Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:24 pm

I don’t….

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Re: Fat Lady isn't even gargling yet

Post by Nonayforever » Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:25 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:
Sun Mar 20, 2022 8:06 am
All to play for. Beat Everton and the bums will be squeaking louder at Everton and Leeds. Both of those teams were lucky this week but their luck may run out. Frank Lampard prancing around like a 5 year old with their last minute winner and Leeds getting yet another appalling decision from a referee and VAR.

There’s one man you can bank on for calmness and professionalism for the next few weeks and that our Sean. Absolutely head and shoulders above the other managers in the dogfight. That will prove to be the difference in the end.
Speaking to a very well informed Everton fan this morning and they are definitely squeaking. He is convinced that 3rd spot is between them and ourselves. His obvious downer is Lampard, no experience in a dogfight and IS pannicking. Good players just not performing / gelling and throwing the towel in when behind.

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Re: Fat Lady isn't even gargling yet

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:37 pm

What amazes me is how fans of both us and Everton have thrown in the towel already.

They beat us, they are not far off OK.

We beat them and unless they do something unexpected against West Ham (A) or Man Utd (H) we go above them by beating Norwich (we may not beat Norwich, but most others have). Then even after that Everton have a harder run in.

All to play for still.

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Re: Fat Lady isn't even gargling yet

Post by bfcjg » Thu Apr 07, 2022 7:20 am

STOP PRESS !!!!!
The fat old wobbler has left stage left to get a lozenge,possible laryngitis,concert could be delayed or cancelled.

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Re: Fat Lady isn't even gargling yet

Post by bfcjg » Sun Apr 10, 2022 3:47 pm

She's back on stage singing 4 more years for Dyche.

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Re: Fat Lady isn't even gargling yet

Post by durhamclaret » Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:02 pm

The fat lady is now choking

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Re: Fat Lady isn't even gargling yet

Post by Goobs » Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:04 pm

Can't see any way we survive now. A draw and it was still possible. But now I think we implode.

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Re: Fat Lady isn't even gargling yet

Post by BabylonClaret » Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:11 pm

Nah. We are down now. Running out of games and 4 points adrift is too much. 1 wasn't really enough either we needed 3 to keep the pressure on.

Two spawny goals goals did for us this weekend (the Pukki one was not critical).

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