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Re: Russia Invades

Post by JarrowClaret » Mon Mar 28, 2022 10:03 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
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Possibly only an RPG, and though they aimed it at the bit with the weakest armor, it still didn't go through

Probably a good job for the lads who fired it, as it would have detonated the ammo for sure and they'd have been blown sky high as well
Nah NLAW and it needs to travel about 20 metres before it arms for the safe you of the firers.
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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Mon Mar 28, 2022 10:11 pm

JarrowClaret wrote:
Mon Mar 28, 2022 10:03 pm
Nah NLAW and it needs to travel about 20 metres before it arms for the safe you of the firers.
Cheers!

I wonder if the Ukrainian were shouting something along the lines of "f**king hell, its too close"

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by JarrowClaret » Mon Mar 28, 2022 10:12 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Mon Mar 28, 2022 10:11 pm
Cheers!

I wonder if the Ukrainian were shouting something along the lines of "f**king hell, its too close"
Or maybe cancel the tractor
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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Mon Mar 28, 2022 10:13 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Mon Mar 28, 2022 9:14 pm
There are flights patrolling the border every day by various countries. Ihave been watching them , I didn’t mean to be derogatory to anyone. I am just geek who watche crap like that.
Far from it, I think your contributions have been very valuable to the thread.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Mon Mar 28, 2022 10:14 pm

JarrowClaret wrote:
Mon Mar 28, 2022 10:12 pm
Or maybe cancel the tractor
"Pyotr, the tractors are busy till next week with tanks and BUK missile systems, but they can fit one in next Wednesday"
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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Mon Mar 28, 2022 10:16 pm

On the super positive side, Dmitri Medvedev (ex Russian President) has clarified the Russian criteria for using nuclear weapons, and it does look like nothing that can happen in Ukraine under the current situation will cause it

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Mon Mar 28, 2022 10:16 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Mon Mar 28, 2022 9:51 pm
There’s a couple of young lads in that group but in the main they look middle-aged men? :?
Just using Osints terminology, I noticed there were different ages involved.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lowbankclaret » Mon Mar 28, 2022 10:23 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Mon Mar 28, 2022 10:13 pm
Far from it, I think your contributions have been very valuable to the thread.
Well maybe apart from being a complete dickhead that got it locked. 100% my bad that, embarrassed myself. I think a was lucky CT only banned me for a week and I owe him a major apology.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by NewClaret » Mon Mar 28, 2022 11:23 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Mon Mar 28, 2022 10:16 pm
Just using Osints terminology, I noticed there were different ages involved.
Yep, realised you were just reporting the news. Just seemed one of those somewhat misleading headline on this one.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by NewClaret » Mon Mar 28, 2022 11:24 pm

JarrowClaret wrote:
Mon Mar 28, 2022 10:12 pm
Or maybe cancel the tractor
:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by NewClaret » Mon Mar 28, 2022 11:26 pm

JarrowClaret wrote:
Mon Mar 28, 2022 10:03 pm
Nah NLAW and it needs to travel about 20 metres before it arms for the safe you of the firers.
That’s annoying, if only they’d let it drive past a bit further!

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Re: Russia Invades

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by NewClaret » Tue Mar 29, 2022 8:59 am

Wouldn’t eat or drink anything he hasn’t made himself for a while, if I were him!

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lowbankclaret » Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:51 am

Lots of military stuff flying just outside of Ukraine. Most interesting one went dark seconds after I did the screen grab.
Stratofortress
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Stratotanker circling
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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lowbankclaret » Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:54 am

Two Czechia Saab Gripens
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And a black hawk to the south.
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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lowbankclaret » Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:07 am

Another Stratofortress has just taken off from the UK. Filtered by type and according to the site it’s the only one in the sky, the other earlier still dark.
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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:16 am

Never knew the Czechs had Grippens

Going to be a lot of stuff on the border from NATO

I would imagine (just guessing here) that any cruise missile that heads toward L'viv is tracked by everything and if it flies past (almost certainly due to mechanical error) it will get targeted by everything as soon as it crosses the border and blown out of the sky

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Hipper » Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:34 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Mon Mar 28, 2022 5:16 pm
https://www.navylookout.com/assessing-r ... n-ukraine/

Analysis from the Naval experts on what destroyed that Ukrainian ship in Berdyansk
So most likely munitions mishandling that destroyed that Russian ship. Pity.

I supposed the best way to judge is if the Russians are still using the port of Berdyansk freely or are restricting its use.

https://news.usni.org/2022/03/25/satell ... -berdyansk

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:00 am

Hipper wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:34 am
So most likely munitions mishandling that destroyed that Russian ship. Pity.

I supposed the best way to judge is if the Russians are still using the port of Berdyansk freely or are restricting its use.

https://news.usni.org/2022/03/25/satell ... -berdyansk
I think they have to use it, anything that cuts the distance from the front line to the supply bases is absolutely essential to them, and their truck shortage is only going to get worse

But there is clearly issues with Russian ammo handling and storage, and Berdyansk is still in the range of both drones and those short range ballistic missiles

Thats why I'm hugely sceptical of any Russian/Ukrainian ceasefire proposals at the moment, they want time to reorganise and resupply, and if the fighting continues at its current tempo, they will really struggle to do that. Ukraine know this, and want to push as hard as possible where they can.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by cbx750 » Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:06 am

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:51 am
Lots of military stuff flying just outside of Ukraine. Most interesting one went dark seconds after I did the screen grab.
First B52 now on station over South East Romania.
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Re: Russia Invades

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:07 am

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:07 am
Another Stratofortress has just taken off from the UK. Filtered by type and according to the site it’s the only one in the sky, the other earlier still dark.

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Stratofortress is a hefty bit of kit, why is one of those in the air?
Not so subtle reminder to Russia to stay within Ukraine?

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lowbankclaret » Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:57 am

cbx750 wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:06 am
First B52 now on station over South East Romania.

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Second one that took off from the UK looks to be joining the first with also a NATO radar plane close by.
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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lowbankclaret » Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:59 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:07 am
Stratofortress is a hefty bit of kit, why is one of those in the air?
Not so subtle reminder to Russia to stay within Ukraine?
I have been looking on this site for about two weeks. First time Ihave seen one of those in the air, then there are two.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lowbankclaret » Tue Mar 29, 2022 12:04 pm

cbx750 wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:06 am
First B52 now on station over South East Romania.

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I cannot find all military stuff on Flightradar24, how did you find that??

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by cbx750 » Tue Mar 29, 2022 12:14 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 12:04 pm
I cannot find all military stuff on Flightradar24, how did you find that??
Put your cursor over the plane and it will show the call sign, RAF are usually RR followed by a number or sometimes the tankers are Kayak. USAF have names like Large25 for tankers or Duke for helicopters.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lowbankclaret » Tue Mar 29, 2022 12:24 pm

cbx750 wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 12:14 pm
Put your cursor over the plane and it will show the call sign, RAF are usually RR followed by a number or sometimes the tankers are Kayak. USAF have names like Large25 for tankers or Duke for helicopters.
I am using an iPad so it’s slightly different.

The helicopters I have found before, as you say they are normally Duke and a number.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue Mar 29, 2022 12:55 pm

https://twitter.com/mathieuvonrohr/stat ... Hauyg&s=19

Reporting from a city recaptured from the Russians.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by bfcjg » Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:02 pm

I think this is very big news coming from the leader of the people Russia were meant to be liberating.
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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:06 pm

Russia in full "bullshit" mode

https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/15 ... 4940520448

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/stat ... 3731590152

I want them to be genuine. More than anything else, I want them to be genuine

But Russia have said one thing, and done something else every single time so far

So treat with extreme caution
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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Sottpark1 ! » Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:46 pm

Sadly bfcjg Alexandrov has had no role since 2015 he helped create the Donetsk Peoples Republic but has had no roles or elected office since 2015 living as a private citizen in Russia.Agree very interesting though

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:48 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:06 pm
Russia in full "bullshit" mode

https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/15 ... 4940520448

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/stat ... 3731590152

I want them to be genuine. More than anything else, I want them to be genuine

But Russia have said one thing, and done something else every single time so far

So treat with extreme caution
This also tells the Ukrainians were to attack, though of course Russia will then claim Ukraine is breaking trust

Course, Russia could cut back operations in Mariupol if it really wanted to send a positive message to Ukraine

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:59 pm

https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1 ... 8207678472

Jaw dropping

If this isn't a sham (and it has to be surely?) then just how screwed is Russia?

Can't be anything other than a sham

No way Russia would have crippled its economy, shown the whole world what a paper tiger it is, to basically allow Ukraine to join the EU

I mean, its not as good as them joining NATO, but its a huge security blanket for Ukraine, and essentially torpedoes any hope of the Russian influence in Ukraine

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:09 pm

https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1 ... 9631686663

If Russia is pulling forces away from Kyi'v, and they time it wrong, then that front could collapse

Whatever they are calling it, this is a retreat, and a retreat can turn into a rout really quickly, especially with badly trained, low morale and low supplied troops

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:19 pm

Link for last nights history podcast: Peter Craddock-Adams is joined by Al Murray and James Holland - discussing all things Ukraine

https://twitter.com/strangelyhappy/stat ... 2v1tIdUrQw

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lowbankclaret » Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:22 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:59 pm
https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1 ... 8207678472

Jaw dropping

If this isn't a sham (and it has to be surely?) then just how screwed is Russia?

Can't be anything other than a sham

No way Russia would have crippled its economy, shown the whole world what a paper tiger it is, to basically allow Ukraine to join the EU

I mean, its not as good as them joining NATO, but its a huge security blanket for Ukraine, and essentially torpedoes any hope of the Russian influence in Ukraine
We have been discussing this at length for a few weeks now, with lots of links etc.
My take on this is Russia does not have the troops or kit left due to its army being degraded by over 20% now.

They need, as I said before, to drop back and regroup or reinforce troops elsewhere or Ukraine are going to push them back.

I therefore see this as , they will pull back troops in the North to use them in the east, just keeping Donbas now is going to be a victory for Russia.

Another month of this and Russia would be down over ( based on estimates) 1000 tanks ( circa 5 million each) and could be 50,000 troops injured or dead. That would over 30% of the troop he used to invade.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:23 pm

BBC Britain seizes first super yacht ‘Phi’ registered to an as yet unnamed Russian oligarch.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:26 pm

REUTERS: The Ruble rallies to a month high against the $ and the stock market also shows some recovery as trading restarts in Russia

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:28 pm

NEXTA: Duma make ‘serious’ claim that their special operations are nearly complete

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:31 pm

Kyiv Independent - Russia again claims to be scaling down in Kyiv as Ukrainians force them back

https://twitter.com/kyivindependent/sta ... sXWys_QlTg

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:31 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:22 pm
We have been discussing this at length for a few weeks now, with lots of links etc.
My take on this is Russia does not have the troops or kit left due to its army being degraded by over 20% now.

They need, as I said before, to drop back and regroup or reinforce troops elsewhere or Ukraine are going to push them back.

I therefore see this as , they will pull back troops in the North to use them in the east, just keeping Donbas now is going to be a victory for Russia.

Another month of this and Russia would be down over ( based on estimates) 1000 tanks ( circa 5 million each) and could be 50,000 troops injured or dead. That would over 30% of the troop he used to invade.
All the other evidence appearing does suggest that Russia might be serious

But again, this is a huge strategic defeat for them.

Seismic in fact

Biggest geo political defeat in my lifetime

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:35 pm

Peter Caddick-Adams retweet - Russian armour continues to drive streets unsupported, wit the same old results in Mariupol.

https://twitter.com/jimmysecuk/status/1 ... 20OOizlNMw

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:38 pm

Another Caddick-Adms retweet from the front - the Russians are looking to switch their forces East under pretence of a concessionary ceasefire around Kyiv.

https://twitter.com/iaponomarenko/statu ... S-eu-ELD-g

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:38 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:35 pm
Peter Caddick-Adams retweet - Russian armour continues to drive streets unsupported, wit the same old results in Mariupol.

https://twitter.com/jimmysecuk/status/1 ... 20OOizlNMw
Been discussed a lot last night that one!

Still mad, still can't get my head around watching a tank with p**r poor visibility issues for its crew to start with still doing that when they are 300 plus tanks down

I do wonder if they have an almost complete lack of training?

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lowbankclaret » Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:40 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:31 pm
All the other evidence appearing does suggest that Russia might be serious

But again, this is a huge strategic defeat for them.

Seismic in fact

Biggest geo political defeat in my lifetime
100% agree with that.

I just think having listened to many analysts on different channels. Russian army cannot win this. All the anti tank weapons are causing so much damage to his army, it could end up so weak Ukraine could take back Crimea. I think he needs a negotiated settlement.

I posted a link the other day which proposed the strategy for the NATO leaders was just to give Ukraine so much munitions Russia could not win. I know it’s guess but I think Russia are realising they are going to be so degraded in 4-6 weeks that Ukraine is unlikely to agree to a settlement as it will becoming apparent they are winning.
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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Hipper » Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:41 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:35 pm
Peter Caddick-Adams retweet - Russian armour continues to drive streets unsupported, wit the same old results in Mariupol.

https://twitter.com/jimmysecuk/status/1 ... 20OOizlNMw
Although that attack was linked earlier and appeared to be ineffective, it shows why the Russians want to destroy buildings.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:41 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:38 pm
Been discussed a lot last night that one!

Still mad, still can't get my head around watching a tank with p**r poor visibility issues for its crew to start with still doing that when they are 300 plus tanks down

I do wonder if they have an almost complete lack of training?
Sorry, had a margarine last night which made reading virtually impossible - I spent the night instead listening to Alice Roberts talking about the dark ages, my first love.
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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:45 pm

Hipper wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:41 pm
Although that attack was linked earlier and appeared to be ineffective, it shows why the Russians want to destroy buildings.
I'm trying to think just how much high explosive they would have to use to destroy all the buildings in one pretty small city in Ukraine, and I don't think they'd have enough

And then tanks would just get destroyed by NLAW shots from the rubble

I just remember reading about Stalingrad - the Germans pounded into the ground, threw in everything over a four month period, pretty much gutted an entire Army and left them completely powerless against a counter attack

Mariupol is their Stalingrad, and it must be eating up their troops and equipment

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Hipper » Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:46 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:22 pm
We have been discussing this at length for a few weeks now, with lots of links etc.
My take on this is Russia does not have the troops or kit left due to its army being degraded by over 20% now.

They need, as I said before, to drop back and regroup or reinforce troops elsewhere or Ukraine are going to push them back.

I therefore see this as , they will pull back troops in the North to use them in the east, just keeping Donbas now is going to be a victory for Russia.

Another month of this and Russia would be down over ( based on estimates) 1000 tanks ( circa 5 million each) and could be 50,000 troops injured or dead. That would over 30% of the troop he used to invade.
In the latest ISW report:

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgr ... t-march-28

they assume that the Russians haven't abandoned their efforts on Kviv but are 'reconstituting' their forces, moving some units out and replacing with others.

Whatever the truth, I assume any activities like this - basically movement - leaves them exposed to attack by Ukrainian forces, if the Ukraines have them.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:47 pm

NEXTA: Johnson and Johnson (finally) pullout of Russia

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/150 ... oVV5y1ct2w

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by bpgburn » Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:47 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:41 pm
Sorry, had a margarine last night which made reading virtually impossible - I spent the night instead listening to Alice Roberts talking about the dark ages, my first love.
Butter is much better for you nowadays ;)

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