Dyche is still the man for the job without a shadow of doubt.

[Devils_Advocate]

The bigger point though is, is it our decision if he goes or not? I personally have massive doubts whether Dyche is up for partying like it’s 2013 with us again. He probably feels as jaded, done in and spent as we do with the last 18 months. Has he got the appetite for a total squad overhaul in a league lower again, with a lot of his stalwarts being certain to leave (Mee, Tarky, Barnes, Cork etc)? I’m not sure he has truthfully - and my prediction is we will see a mutual parting of the ways as the club can probably not afford to sack him even if they wanted to. Dyche is a savvy media man and will spin a mutual split as his decision, his terms, needing a new challenge and the club will look like it has lost out on him against its own desires (when it actually is probably what Pace wants too). Just my expectations…

I tend to agree with this and think Dyche might take the same route that Eddie Howe did when Bournemouth got relegated. Leave on his own terms, take some time out of the game (recharge batteries / spend time with family), do some media work, and wait for the right job to come along because if Dyche is patient he will no doubt get another Premier League job within the next 12-18 months.

[TheFamilyCat]

I tend to agree with this and think Dyche might take the same route that Eddie Howe did when Bournemouth got relegated. Leave on his own terms, take some time out of the game (recharge batteries / spend time with family), do some media work, and wait for the right job to come along because if Dyche is patient he will no doubt get another Premier League job within the next 12-18 months.

If that does happen, it needs to happen quickly. Even before the end of the season if relegation is confirmed before that. A new manager needs the maximum time possible to assess the squad and bring in the players he thinks he needs.

[Silkyskills1]

'will no doubt get another Permier League job within the next 12-18 months'

As easy as that? His 'stock' is currently at an all time low and more likely to keep.going in that direction the longer the purgatory of this season continues. A year or two out.would result in him becoming a 'forgotten man'and not a prime candidate for another post in a league where he has been seen at best to be plucky and dour.

[quoonbeatz]

I would suggest that his stock is very much not at an all time low, certainly not with those within the game. He'd be back in the PL pretty quickly if he left us.

[RVclaret]

I would suggest that his stock is very much not at an all time low, certainly not with those within the game. He'd be back in the PL pretty quickly if he left us.

Interesting one, most teams are looking for more progressive football nowadays so I’m not sure it would be as quickly as you think. You don’t see the likes of Pulis being wanted now and Allardyce only for a rescue job.

[Newcastleclaret93]

I would suggest that his stock is very much not at an all time low, certainly not with those within the game. He'd be back in the PL pretty quickly if he left us.

I would love to know which premier league club would sign Dyche.

I’m not even sure most top championship clubs would sign him to be honest.

[Spijed]

'will no doubt get another Permier League job within the next 12-18 months'

As easy as that? His 'stock' is currently at an all time low and more likely to keep.going in that direction the longer the purgatory of this season continues. A year or two out.would result in him becoming a 'forgotten man'and not a prime candidate for another post in a league where he has been seen at best to be plucky and dour.

The career of David Moyes seemed dead in the water a few seasons ago and he's managed to come back into management quite successfully.

[Gp8419]

'will no doubt get another Permier League job within the next 12-18 months'

As easy as that? His 'stock' is currently at an all time low and more likely to keep.going in that direction the longer the purgatory of this season continues. A year or two out.would result in him becoming a 'forgotten man'and not a prime candidate for another post in a league where he has been seen at best to be plucky and dour.

What a load of crap! When you have done what he has done in his time at Burnley it gains ultimate respect from everyone apart from some brain dead fans of his own team unfortunately.There will be early sackings in the prem next season and dyche will get linked with them all apart from the real powerhouses,look at allardyce he could of gone to any struggling team, I would imagine dyche will be the new allardyche.

[Newcastleclaret93]

The career of David Moyes seemed dead in the water a few seasons ago and he's managed to come back into management quite successfully.

Different situation Moyes successfully managed a considerably bigger club than Burnley for years. He then went on to manage arguably the biggest club in world football.

Even with his stock at his lowest it’s considerably higher than Dyches

[Newcastleclaret93]

What a load of crap! When you have done what he has done in his time at Burnley it gains ultimate respect from everyone apart from some brain dead fans of his own team unfortunately.There will be early sackings in the prem next season and dyche will get linked with them all apart from the real powerhouses,look at allardyce he could of gone to any struggling team, I would imagine dyche will be the new allardyche.

I suggest you need to get in the real world.

Name one club in the prem that would take Dyche

[Spijed]

Different situation Moyes successfully managed a considerably bigger club than Burnley for years. He then went on to manage arguably the biggest club in world football.

Even with his stock at his lowest it’s considerably higher than Dyches

If you look at the reaction of their supporters when he rejoined West Ham I think it's fair to say it wasn't exactly favourable. Few, if any, wanted him to be re-appointed as their manager.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Dyche has done numerous things he's admired for -

Led a team on a small budget to 7th place.
Kept said team up for several successive seasons.
Longest run of games without a red card and we're generally high up in the fairplay table.
Got a team promoted twice from the championship.
He's articulate, well presented and doesn't shie away from the media.
He's shown he can managed troubled players, namely Barton and Treacy.
Has consistently worked within aforementioned small budget and done it well.
I think it's City who're the only team he hasn't beaten in this league, but I could be wrong.
He's given advice to a former player who've became a manager, Barton.

He would get another job, asking us to name the club who'd want him is just downright daft because things change all the time.
He's a better manager than someone like Lampard for example and by some considerable distance.

[RVclaret]

If you look at the reaction of their supporters when he rejoined West Ham I think it's fair to say it wasn't exactly favourable. Few, if any, wanted him to be re-appointed as their manager.

Moyes took a fair bit of time away from the spotlight post United and has reinvented himself. His tactics have evolved significantly. Perhaps that is something Dyche may need to look at if he’s going to secure another PL job.

[spt_claret]

Dyche has done numerous things he's admired for -

Led a team on a small budget to 7th place.
Kept said team up for several successive seasons.
Longest run of games without a red card and we're generally high up in the fairplay table.
Got a team promoted twice from the championship.
He's articulate, well presented and doesn't shie away from the media.
He's shown he can managed troubled players, namely Barton and Treacy.
Has consistently worked within aforementioned small budget and done it well.
I think it's City who're the only team he hasn't beaten in this league, but I could be wrong.
He's given advice to a former player who've became a manager, Barton.

He would get another job, asking us to name the club who'd want him is just downright daft because things change all the time.
He's a better manager than someone like Lampard for example and by some considerable distance.

Dyche beat City 1-0 on 14 March 2015. We drew earlier in the season. He's only gotten a single point since Guardiola took over but beat them his first season up.

[jrgbfc]

I don't think there's a cat in hell's chance of Dyche getting another Premier League job anytime soon. His best bet would be one of the bigger championship clubs like West Brom, Boro or Forest.

[Newcastleclaret93]

I don't think there's a cat in hell's chance of Dyche getting another Premier League job anytime soon. His best bet would be one of the bigger championship clubs like West Brom, Boro or Forest.

Only club I could see going for Dyche would be Boro

[RVclaret]

Only club I could see going for Dyche would be Boro

They’ve got Wilder who’s doing a decent job. West Brom maybe if they get sick of Bruce ball.

[tiger76]

Dyche has done numerous things he's admired for -

Led a team on a small budget to 7th place.
Kept said team up for several successive seasons.
Longest run of games without a red card and we're generally high up in the fairplay table.
Got a team promoted twice from the championship.
He's articulate, well presented and doesn't shie away from the media.
He's shown he can managed troubled players, namely Barton and Treacy.
Has consistently worked within aforementioned small budget and done it well.
I think it's City who're the only team he hasn't beaten in this league, but I could be wrong.
He's given advice to a former player who've became a manager, Barton.

He would get another job, asking us to name the club who'd want him is just downright daft because things change all the time.
He's a better manager than someone like Lampard for example and by some considerable distance.

We beat City back in 2015.

[Newcastleclaret93]

They’ve got Wilder who’s doing a decent job. West Brom maybe if they get sick of Bruce ball.

I suspect they are rapidly falling out with managers of Dyches type after Allardyce and Bruce.

They won’t go for Dyche not for the foreseeable anyway.

Yes wilder is doing well but I could see him being picked up by prem club before Dyche.

[SalisburyClaret]

I think any club from 9th downwards would be interested in Dyche - the exceptions being Watford and the ultra wealthy Villa and Newcastle. Everyone in the Championship would be keen on him

He’s widely respected through the football world for what he’s achieved, knows how to get the most from players and on a tight budget. The European qualification lifts him to another level again.

[Newcastleclaret93]

I think any club from 9th downwards would be interested in Dyche - the exceptions being Watford and the ultra wealthy Villa and Newcastle. Everyone in the Championship would be keen on him

He’s widely respected through the football world for what he’s achieved, knows how to get the most from players and on a tight budget. The European qualification lifts him to another level again.

Is he widely respected or is this just another uptheclarets myth?

[RVclaret]

I think any club from 9th downwards would be interested in Dyche - the exceptions being Watford and the ultra wealthy Villa and Newcastle. Everyone in the Championship would be keen on him

He’s widely respected through the football world for what he’s achieved, knows how to get the most from players and on a tight budget. The European qualification lifts him to another level again.

Like I said, clubs are looking at more progressive managers now. Look at Brentford with Thomas Frank playing a modern system, Brighton sacking Hughton for Potter, Palace could have gone for him last summer but went for the more expansive Viera, Leeds want to play fast attacking football hence the appointment of Marsch who the owners said ‘fit their profile’, Leicester play in Europe and want to win trophies, they will look at Dyche’s awful cup record.

[Devils_Advocate]

Dyche might not be anyone's first choice in the summer just as im sure Eddie Howe wasn't when he left Bournemouth but once clubs start sacking their managers partway through the season then suddenly an out of work manager with recent Premier League experience who did a fantastic job with a small budget becomes a prime target.

If Dyche wasn't our manager this season I bet he would have been offered a few of the Premier League jobs that came on the market and I dare say had Howe been working and Dyche been available then Dyche could even have got offered the Newcastle job.

As I said if Dyche is patient, enjoys a break and keeps his himself involved in media work then im sure he would get interest from any bottom half team who are struggling and who sack their manager.

[Vegas Claret]

That was his last contract, he's on more than 6 figures now...

[Silkyskills1]

What a load of crap! When you have done what he has done in his time at Burnley it gains ultimate respect from everyone apart from some brain dead fans of his own team unfortunately.There will be early sackings in the prem next season and dyche will get linked with them all apart from the real powerhouses,look at allardyce he could of gone to any struggling team, I would imagine dyche will be the new allardyche.

Sean Dyche has been a magnificent manager of Burnley Football Club; of that there is no doubt. However, he has become entrenched for seasons now 'warding off' opposition as opposed to his earlier days of taking them on. Not all his fault either but he is the one carrying the can. His approach to a game of football has become stale, unimaginative and lacking in guile. The team has gone backwards and so has he. He's lost good players that haven't been replaced; he has lost coaching staff replaced by inferior quality. You are right that clubs next season may be looking for a replacement after a poor start but it won't be Sean Dyche they'll be looking for as a new man at the helm. We've seen enough over the last two seasons to understand that his style of play is just that, 'his style'. Young players, loan players and flair players are just three areas that he appears more than just reluctant to engage with. Yes, a seemingly honest, decent down to earth type of man but being left behind in the slow lane in the modern game. I would love to be proved wrong either in the remainder of this season or next season but somehow I just don't see it happening.

[Silkyskills1]

Dyche has done numerous things he's admired for -

Led a team on a small budget to 7th place.
Kept said team up for several successive seasons.
Longest run of games without a red card and we're generally high up in the fairplay table.
Got a team promoted twice from the championship.
He's articulate, well presented and doesn't shie away from the media.
He's shown he can managed troubled players, namely Barton and Treacy.
Has consistently worked within aforementioned small budget and done it well.
I think it's City who're the only team he hasn't beaten in this league, but I could be wrong.
He's given advice to a former player who've became a manager, Barton.

All very admirable qualities of which he should be proud. However, I suspect most clubs appointing a new manager might sideline some of them and be more interested in the package he puts together during the week to encourage people to watch their club at the weekend. He's no longer a favourite in the betting stakes because of the fairly regular poor quality on show for us both at home and away. He has had to work on a tight budget but has shown little or no interest in loan players, young players or flair players. Decent/ good performances have been very few and far between over the last couple of seasons and that has shown in a 'fall' of attendances. Not what a prospective, adventurous club might be looking to.

[Jakubclaret]

Like I said, clubs are looking at more progressive managers now. Look at Brentford with Thomas Frank playing a modern system, Brighton sacking Hughton for Potter, Palace could have gone for him last summer but went for the more expansive Viera, Leeds want to play fast attacking football hence the appointment of Marsch who the owners said ‘fit their profile’, Leicester play in Europe and want to win trophies, they will look at Dyche’s awful cup record.

Palace could have but didn’t should tell you something, Leeds weren’t interested & Leicester wouldn’t entertain him, he’s on such a good number here the amount to prise him away wouldn’t be worth it no club I think will pay compensation for him, we can’t sack him due to the finances so unless he leaves off his own accord & forfeits any contractual obligations the guys going nowhere, some people are right saying another club would take him on but he has to leave first & he won’t do that whilst getting paid handsomely for nothing to be blunt & he’s untouchable to other clubs due to the compensation, pickle isn’t the word or maybe a milder definition mismanagement.

[BLH_Claret]

Don’t think many clubs, whether rightly or wrongly and certainly not their fans would have touched him at his peak due to perceptions of how he plays the game, so now? Not a chance.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Could someone explain why we can't afford to sack Dyche?

When other managers have been sacked, the compensation has been paid out over the duration of the original contract and many clubs insert a clause that if the manager gets another job during that time the compensation doesn't have to be paid.

So any can't we afford to sack him?

[GodIsADeeJay81]

All very admirable qualities of which he should be proud. However, I suspect most clubs appointing a new manager might sideline some of them and be more interested in the package he puts together during the week to encourage people to watch their club at the weekend. He's no longer a favourite in the betting stakes because of the fairly regular poor quality on show for us both at home and away. He has had to work on a tight budget but has shown little or no interest in loan players, young players or flair players. Decent/ good performances have been very few and far between over the last couple of seasons and that has shown in a 'fall' of attendances. Not what a prospective, adventurous club might be looking to.

They'll also be aware of the restrictions he's working under to keep the club in the PL, his points per £ ratio and the loan players isn't really an issue lets be fair.

[JohnMac]

I think Dyche is very well respected by Football people and certainly by players who have been under his management.

Most fans think he is a dinosaur because they listen to others and follow like sheep on social media whilst having very little knowledge about him.

I believe were he to move on, he wouldn't be offended picking a Club at a lower level as opposed to others who believe they deserve Premier League status.

[Silkyskills1]

They'll also be aware of the restrictions he's working under to keep the club in the PL, his points per £ ratio and the loan players isn't really an issue lets be fair.

If it's a club struggling to keep.their heads above.water then I agree. Other than that not at all convinced.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

If it's a club struggling to keep.their heads above.water then I agree. Other than that not at all convinced.

My point was they'll look at the bigger picture.
When he wasn't under such tight restrictions as he has been these last few years he delivered better football, 7th place, an effort at European football and also a 10th place finish.
When the restrictions kicked in he was still able to keep the club up.

Other owners won't just look at the last couple of years, they take into account his entire time here when considering him for a job.

[Jakubclaret]

If the money was there we wouldn’t be selling our best striker doubling up & signing nobody else, the club is absolutely cash strapped & knee deep in poo when the trapdoor opens. The owners want to make money when the money isn’t coming in.

[John Johnson 1605]

Dyche has worked wonders for us but outside these parts is regarded as at best dour and at worst toxic. There is absolutely no chance that any other PL would move for him following relegation, which makes the decision to award him such a lucrative contract questionable. If he does go he’ll pop up at a Middlesbrough, West Brom, Stoke or Forest (his dream job).

[SalisburyClaret]

Most owners want to spend a little and get a lot, if Dyche was available, he’d be near the top of every list. Add to that that he’s media savvy, loyal and has an outstanding record. Only the Multi -Billionaire owners would be looking elsewhere.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Dyche has worked wonders for us but outside these parts is regarded as at best dour and at worst toxic. There is absolutely no chance that any other PL would move for him following relegation, which makes the decision to award him such a lucrative contract questionable. If he does go he’ll pop up at a Middlesbrough, West Brom, Stoke or Forest (his dream job).

Why is forest his dream job?
They're an absolute mess

[RVclaret]

Most owners want to spend a little and get a lot, if Dyche was available, he’d be near the top of every list. Add to that that he’s media savvy, loyal and has an outstanding record. Only the Multi -Billionaire owners would be looking elsewhere.

you’re missing the key point which is the horrendous style of football. Why do you think Diego Simeone is never linked with the big jobs? He has a stigma of producing anti football, the same as Dyche. He absolutely suits Athletico, like Dyche has suited us, but will other fans take to it?

[GodIsADeeJay81]

you’re missing the key point which is the horrendous style of football. Why do you think Diego Simeone is never linked with the big jobs? He has a stigma of producing anti football, the same as Dyche. He absolutely suits Athletico, like Dyche has suited us, but will other fans take to it?

Was the football horrendous when we finished 7th?
It didn't seem like it to me

[RVclaret]

Was the football horrendous when we finished 7th?
It didn't seem like it to me

1 season out of 6. It was decent with Defour in until he got injured and we reverted to the standard 4-4-2 (obv played it a lot more efficiently to what we do now).

[John Johnson 1605]

In response to GodisaDeejay;

He started his career there, was regarded as a very bright prospect, before sustaining a career changing injury. He often reflects on this time with a real air of sentimentality. You can also throw in their size, potential and location to Northamptonshire.

They don’t appear to an absolute mess.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

1 season out of 6. It was decent with Defour in until he got injured and we reverted to the standard 4-4-2 (obv played it a lot more efficiently to what we do now).

What about when we finished 10th?
He's achieved higher league finishes then many a manager who's played prettier football during his time in the PL, including Eddie Howe, Marco Silva and two dozen managers at Watford

The football reflected what he had to spend.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

In response to GodisaDeejay;

He started his career there, was regarded as a very bright prospect, before sustaining a career changing injury. He often reflects on this time with a real air of sentimentality. You can also throw in their size, potential and location to Northamptonshire.

They don’t appear to an absolute mess.

They've been a mess off field for years, on field not much better until their current manager came along and they've hit a purple patch.

If Forest was really his dream job then he'd be there by now.
He hasn't moved his family away from their home because he didn't want to disrupt his children's school life etc.

[DCWat]

Where I think that Dyche has come a bit of a cropper (and admittedly there’s a hefty dose of assumption in my thinking) is his lack of willingness to free up funds by selling players at their premium value.

Now losing Tarkowski or McNeil over previous windows may have been a gamble, it may have backfired, but it could perhaps have brought about a good chunk of the money needed to start refreshing the squad.

For someone who has professed to be very much aware of our financial position, an apparent unwillingness to move players on at their prime, could have held us back. A club our size really needs to be buying well and selling better - easy to say - but it should be the aim.

I’d hope that if Dyche stays (those credits are still there) we might see both a development of style and more willingness to turnover the squad as is needed.

[dandeclaret]

Where I think that Dyche has come a bit of a cropper (and admittedly there’s a hefty dose of assumption in my thinking) is his lack of willingness to free up funds by selling players at their premium value.

Now losing Tarkowski or McNeil over previous windows may have been a gamble, it may have backfired, but it could perhaps have brought about a good chunk of the money needed to start refreshing the squad.

For someone who has professed to be very much aware of our financial position, an apparent unwillingness to move players on at their prime, could have held us back. A club our size really needs to be buying well and selling better - easy to say - but it should be the aim.

I’d hope that if Dyche stays (those credits are still there) we might see both a development of style and more willingness to turnover the squad as is needed.

I've seen this a few times over the last few days. How do you think the fans would have reacted had he sold those players, and started a season poorly? I've seen a few fans advocating selling the best players, again, percentage wise, given Burnley's difficulty in signing players, that they would have been able to sign suitable replacements. Tarkowski and McNeill were moulded here. He may have sold Tarkowski if the Gibson deal had worked. Without it, there's no continuity is there?

[DCWat]

I think that there would have been uproar, which ultimately, I think would have turned to acceptance, being the small fish in a big pond that we are.

Of course, had we been unable to recruit replacements and begin to revamp the squad elsewhere, that would be an issue.

Quite why we haven’t been able to do deals, I don’t know, but not addressing that issue and the fact that todays problems (ageing squad with many coming to the end of their contracts) have been staring us in the face for a number of windows, has proven to be an unsuccessful gamble too far, this season.

We found ourselves in the position of a poor start, middle and end to this season, having kept all of the players and hardly refreshing the squad. I think we’ll now find ourselves in a worse position because we didn’t take some difficult decisions last summer or before.

[Jakubclaret]

I've seen this a few times over the last few days. How do you think the fans would have reacted had he sold those players, and started a season poorly? I've seen a few fans advocating selling the best players, again, percentage wise, given Burnley's difficulty in signing players, that they would have been able to sign suitable replacements. Tarkowski and McNeill were moulded here. He may have sold Tarkowski if the Gibson deal had worked. Without it, there's no continuity is there?

“He may have sold Tarkowski if the Gibson deal had worked” Gibson was the ready made replacement for mee who everybody expected was leaving including Gibson himself hence signing the change of heart by mee stopping led to Gibson leaving jacked off with dropping down the pecking order, how anybody seriously expected Gibson to stop & play second fiddle when he more or less expected to be replacing mee is beyond any sort of sane rationale.

[Shaggy]

Where I think that Dyche has come a bit of a cropper (and admittedly there’s a hefty dose of assumption in my thinking) is his lack of willingness to free up funds by selling players at their premium value.

Now losing Tarkowski or McNeil over previous windows may have been a gamble, it may have backfired, but it could perhaps have brought about a good chunk of the money needed to start refreshing the squad.

For someone who has professed to be very much aware of our financial position, an apparent unwillingness to move players on at their prime, could have held us back. A club our size really needs to be buying well and selling better - easy to say - but it should be the aim.

I’d hope that if Dyche stays (those credits are still there) we might see both a development of style and more willingness to turnover the squad as is needed.

You are correct transfer dealing is a glaring weakness of Dyche’s as is bringing through youth. One of the reasons we carry such a small squad is that Dyche doesn’t believe in rotating he wants continuity and he wants experienced pro’s to carry out his instructions. If Dyche had more money I’m of the opinion he’d just waste it on an overpriced ageing player.

We simply haven’t turned the squad over enough and the concerns have been there for more than a few seasons now. There is absolutely no excuse on Dyche’s part none.

You could add in loans aswell we just do not utilise them at all. We are seriously missing a trick here.

Tactically we don’t change. It’s the same play all the time, all men behind the ball and back into shape without then ball, don’t commit to the tackle back off and force out wide and defend the incoming cross. Going forward it’s a hoof into the channel to then work a deep floaty cross with the hope of picking up a second phase ball.

I think the only premier league clubs who might look at Dyche are those near the bottom and in trouble. Not a cat in hells chance is a club with ambition taking Dyche on as a manager. The hoofball style and lack of pulling power to bring in top players definitely go against him. I think unfortunately Dyche will be with us in the championship next season.

[Burnley1989]

I’d keep hold of him until Christmas and see how we are getting on, I’ve just a strange feeling things could get much worse without him based on the size of the rebuild job.
Having said that, I’d not lose too much sleep if he left, I’m very much on the fence

[9thMay1987]

I believe our manager will leave at the end of the season. He has done a great job for Burnley but Burnley have done great for him made and his staff into millionares quite a few times over.

He does not need the grunt and grind of the Championship which will do little for his prestige.

Better to wait, recharge his batteries, wait it out until next Christmas period when four or five times at the bottom start the annual panic and he becomes the man who kept Burnley in the PL for six years on a shorestring budget, with pundits informing us that Klopp or Pep could not have done a better job than Dyche.