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Team v Saints

Post by tiger76 » Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:51 am

Obviously it won't be the same starting XI as at West Ham due to Westwood's unfortunate injury, so I guess Brownhill comes in for him, as for the rest I suspect we'll go with the same again after a decent showing on Sunday.

Pope
Lowton Collins Tarks Taylor
McNeil Brownhill Cork Cornet
Jay WW

Barnes, Lennon, Roberts & Vydra offer attacking options from the bench if needed in a vital game.

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Re: Team v Saints

Post by Sleeping Cat » Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:05 am

Pope
Lowton Collins Tarks Taylor
McNeil Brownhill Cork Cornet
Jay WW

Jay on Pens :-)

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Re: Team v Saints

Post by Iloveyoubrady » Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:08 am

Same again for me. Wouldn’t mind Lennon for Dwight though

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Re: Team v Saints

Post by RVclaret » Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:09 am

Iloveyoubrady wrote:
Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:08 am
Same again for me. Wouldn’t mind Lennon for Dwight though
Not for me. Time for Dwight to shine. What I would like to see is him and Cornet rotating wings more within a game. We used to do this with Boyd/Arfield quite a bit and just adds that bit more flexibility.

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Re: Team v Saints

Post by Jel » Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:10 am

Sleeping Cat wrote:
Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:05 am
Pope
Lowton Collins Tarks Taylor
McNeil Brownhill Cork Cornet
Jay WW

Jay on Pens :-)
Jay will be retired before we get another penalty!
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Re: Team v Saints

Post by SalisburyClaret » Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:21 am

Play McNeil on the left or not at all
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Re: Team v Saints

Post by Quickenthetempo » Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:25 am

Brownhill comes in.
Right back is 50/50.

I wouldn't mind Vydra playing the first hour and seeing if we can take our improved passing game a step further. I think he could link up really well with WW. Give Jay at least half an hour though.

He might change system though with more time to work with the lads. The U23s played 442 at Dyche's request though didn't they?

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Re: Team v Saints

Post by AlargeClaret » Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:50 am

Same kind up ( Brownhill for Westd) . Though I’d prefer Lennon instead of McNeil

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Re: Team v Saints

Post by LoveCurryPies » Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:54 am

Pope
Lowton Collins Tarks Taylor
Brownhill Cork McNeil
Lennon WW Cornet

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Re: Team v Saints

Post by spt_claret » Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:54 am

First off I'd move McNeil back left. Too one footed and we were so exposed Sunday with Cornet ahead of Taylor, putting Lowton behind him provides more security and a deep crossing option if Cornet can't cut it across the box or pulls defenders out of position. Plus lets Max cut in and shoot easier, he's proven to have a knack for the spectacular (albeit struggle with routine).

I'd actually consider swapping Cornet for Lennon and using him as an impact sub, given how he disrupts our own shape as much as the opposition, but he's our top scorer and probably best player, Southampton is winnable and needs to be won, so he has to start.

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Re: Team v Saints

Post by Roosterbooster » Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:58 am

Anyone else feel slightly different about team selection now? Before I was always pleasantly surprised about an attacking lineup. Now I'm kind of expecting it...

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Re: Team v Saints

Post by ClaretMov » Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:19 am

Pope
Lowton Collins Tarks Taylor
Cornet Brownhill Cork McNeil
Jay WW

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Re: Team v Saints

Post by ecc » Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:39 pm

Sorry about the cliché but I know who should be and who I think will be the 12th man.

I just wish I could be at TM tomorrow night.

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Re: Team v Saints

Post by burnleymik » Wed Apr 20, 2022 1:09 pm

Think we need to be more offensive for this one, I would allow Roberts back in for Lowton and get Vydra on to stretch the line and allow Wout more time and space when he comes deep. Still believe it makes it easier for defenders when both Wout and Jay drop deep.

Pope
Roberts Collins Tarks Taylor
Cornet Brownhill Cork McNeil
Vydra WW

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Re: Team v Saints

Post by lakesider » Wed Apr 20, 2022 3:34 pm

Think I would like to start Vydra. He scored a worldie against this lot at the end of last season.

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Re: Team v Saints

Post by FCBurnley » Wed Apr 20, 2022 3:43 pm

Must win so
Pope
Lowton Collins Tarks Taylor
Brownhill Cork McNeil
Vydra WW Cornet

It’s all about winning and scoring goals

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Re: Team v Saints

Post by Jel » Wed Apr 20, 2022 3:50 pm

lakesider wrote:
Wed Apr 20, 2022 3:34 pm
Think I would like to start Vydra. He scored a worldie against this lot at the end of last season.
I think that was 2019/20 season, just before Covid kicked in. I remember watching in a pub in Scarborough

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Re: Team v Saints

Post by claretspice » Wed Apr 20, 2022 4:00 pm

Pope
Lowton Collins Tarkowski Taylor
Cornet Brownhill Cork McNeil
Weghorst Vydra

Really tough on Jay, who has been outstanding recently, but I think we could use Vydra's pace to stretch behind Southampton, who will press high given the way Hassenhutl plays.

I hear desire for Lennon, but McNeil makes an enormous difference to the quality of our ball retention, and for me Lennon hasn't actually produced enough end product for that to outweigh the importance of the basic skill of keeping the ball. You could play Lennon of Weghorst I suppose, but better to use Vydra in his correct position.
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Re: Team v Saints

Post by RVclaret » Wed Apr 20, 2022 4:11 pm

claretspice wrote:
Wed Apr 20, 2022 4:00 pm
Pope
Lowton Collins Tarkowski Taylor
Cornet Brownhill Cork McNeil
Weghorst Vydra

Really tough on Jay, who has been outstanding recently, but I think we could use Vydra's pace to stretch behind Southampton, who will press high given the way Hassenhutl plays.

I hear desire for Lennon, but McNeil makes an enormous difference to the quality of our ball retention, and for me Lennon hasn't actually produced enough end product for that to outweigh the importance of the basic skill of keeping the ball. You could play Lennon of Weghorst I suppose, but better to use Vydra in his correct position.
This for me too

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Re: Team v Saints

Post by beeholeclaret » Wed Apr 20, 2022 4:22 pm

I think he scored 2 seasons in a row down at St Marys. I think he scored to put us 2-0 up there before we allowed them back in it to win 3-2.

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Re: Team v Saints

Post by Elizabeth » Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:27 pm

Same again , I think McNeil deserves another chance

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Re: Team v Saints

Post by Silkyskills1 » Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:48 pm

Brownhill on 9 bookings. After tomorrow it doesn't matter. Place in midfield for Stephens?

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Re: Team v Saints

Post by NewClaret » Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:51 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:48 pm
Brownhill on 9 bookings. After tomorrow it doesn't matter. Place in midfield for Stephens?
Needs to play, just stay on his feet.

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Re: Team v Saints

Post by HuncoatClaret » Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:58 pm

Stephens for Westwood & Lennon for Dwight

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Re: Team v Saints

Post by Silkyskills1 » Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:59 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:51 pm
Needs to play, just stay on his feet.
If it was that easy.

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Re: Team v Saints

Post by Elizabeth » Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:56 pm

Hopefully it's the Brownhill who looked the business against Liverpool and in one or two other games around the same period.
He has the game and his ball to Cornet for the resultant penalty was excellent but if he takes another free kick around the opposition box he wants more than a yellow card dishing out !!!

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Re: Team v Saints

Post by warksclaret » Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:11 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:48 pm
Brownhill on 9 bookings. After tomorrow it doesn't matter. Place in midfield for Stephens?
If he misses two games for reaching 10, I would risk him and tell him to constrain himself.Tomorrow is vital particularly if Everton get 3 points tonight

Only other change is Roberts to come in as Lowton was subbed last week. I am open minded who plays RB but there must have been a reason for the new team to sub him

And yes, keep Brownhill away from any free kicks if Cornet is on the pitch

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Re: Team v Saints

Post by Roosterbooster » Thu Apr 21, 2022 4:51 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:48 pm
Brownhill on 9 bookings
I find it a bit inconsistent that you can have 9 bookings in a season and only miss 1 game, but 10 and you can miss 3!

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Re: Team v Saints

Post by Mala591 » Thu Apr 21, 2022 5:56 pm

Tactics v Saints

Don’t be afraid of shooting from outside the box
Take the ball to the by-line and pull it back
Quick throw-ins
Vary tactics for corners and free kicks
Keep composure around opposition penalty area
Don’t pass and watch, pass and sprint into space
Be creative and unpredictable!

UTC

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Re: Team v Saints

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu Apr 21, 2022 6:00 pm

Pope
Lowton Tarks, Collins, Taylor
Lennon, Cork, McNeil, Corner
Vydra
Weghorst

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Re: Team v Saints

Post by Murger » Thu Apr 21, 2022 6:03 pm

claretspice wrote:
Wed Apr 20, 2022 4:00 pm
Pope
Lowton Collins Tarkowski Taylor
Cornet Brownhill Cork McNeil
Weghorst Vydra

Really tough on Jay, who has been outstanding recently, but I think we could use Vydra's pace to stretch behind Southampton, who will press high given the way Hassenhutl plays.

I hear desire for Lennon, but McNeil makes an enormous difference to the quality of our ball retention, and for me Lennon hasn't actually produced enough end product for that to outweigh the importance of the basic skill of keeping the ball. You could play Lennon of Weghorst I suppose, but better to use Vydra in his correct position.
I agree with this.

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