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BOYSIE31 · Post by **BOYSIE31** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:23 pm

Not happy with jackson at the end of the game when he went to speak to him

pushpinpussy · Post by **pushpinpussy** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:24 pm

i agree. but who was correct ?

BOYSIE31 · Post by **BOYSIE31** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:25 pm

We were again not playing to his strengths but it worked out OK in the end

Funkydrummer · Post by **Funkydrummer** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:25 pm

Well he wouldn't be, but Jacko has been vindicated by the result

Take it like a man and move on for the good of your mates and be happy for the fans and the club in general.
Don't spoil what you've got.

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:26 pm

He ought to have been absolutely delighted at the final whistle, and if he wasn't I'm questioning whether he's a team player.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:27 pm

It’s ok to be upset about being subbed , but he showed complete disrespect to Jackson and his teammates.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:28 pm

let him stew, if it fires him up all the better.

Longsidelenny1882 · Post by **Longsidelenny1882** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:28 pm

Shocking attitude from weghorst carnt see him being at the club next season what everdivision we are in uptheclarets

willsclarets · Post by **willsclarets** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:28 pm

It'll all be done and dusted by tomorrow

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:29 pm

One thing you can’t fault with Jackson (not that there’s anything so far) is his substitution choices

Everyone of them he’s made so far, both in personnel and timing has been spot on

fanzone · Post by **fanzone** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:29 pm

Didn't even celebrate the goals when they went in.....massive clown.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:31 pm

We started playing football and crossing the ball when he went off, strange how it worked out but it did.

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:31 pm

Let's hope the other players have put him right back in his box in the dressing room.

Play well and you don't get taken off. Simple.

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:33 pm

Massive hissy fit. Shook his head slumped on the bench for for the entire half hour that he was off. Didn't celebrate with the others at all. Perhaps Newcastle would like him to replace Wood.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:33 pm

Acted a bit of a **** really. If he was banging them in then he would be right to act that way, but he’s got 2 in 16? We didn’t look like scoring till he went off which says a lot. I would hope he apologises to his manager and gets on with his job against Villa, I’m sure he will do.

Jackson showed he’s got the balls for the big calls, good on him. It made a few scratch their heads, but he was fully vindicated.

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:36 pm

Dick head antics and really brings his character into question.

Belgianclaret · Post by **Belgianclaret** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:36 pm

No reason to make anything of a disappointed reaction when being subbed, but if he did behave the way is described above he needs his head sorted out.

Milltown1882 · Post by **Milltown1882** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:38 pm

It’s a team game and right now it’s all about results. Don’t be a prick and throw your toys out of the pram at this stage, the decision turned out to be absolutely vindicated in the end.

AfloatinClaret · Post by **AfloatinClaret** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:00 pm

wilks_bfc wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:29 pm
One thing you can’t fault with Jackson (not that there’s anything so far) is his substitution choices

Everyone of them he’s made so far, both in personnel and timing has been spot on

Spar a bit of praise for Alan Pace; it could be argued that his timing was perhaps a week or so late, but his choice seems to have worked out well.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:04 pm

He had a bit of a reputation near the end at Wolfsburg for being a bit of a sulker when things didn’t go his way.

But, in fairness, he’s not lacking in effort here. He is averaging the most pressures per 90 minutes in the entire PL this season.

Didn’t come off for him today at all but thought he was decent in the last few.

EarbyClaret · Post by **EarbyClaret** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:04 pm

He'll be alright. He was disappointed but he looks like a top pro and he'll come back stronger

Things didn't work out for him today. Ironically as soon as he goes off Roberts puts in the perfect ball for him but there it is. Excellent decision by Jackson to make the change when he did - won us the game

ecc · Post by **ecc** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:05 pm

Ben will have sorted him.

jos · Post by **jos** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:07 pm

He offered nothing, needs to be on the bench against Villa for me.
That’ll teach him.

BabylonClaret · Post by **BabylonClaret** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:08 pm

ksrclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:26 pm
He ought to have been absolutely delighted at the final whistle, and if he wasn't I'm questioning whether he's a team player.

This. He was pretty awful for most of the game until subbed.

I still can't decide on him. He clearly has a good touch but struggles to keep the ball under pressure and clearly is still getting to grips with the pace and physicality of the Premier League.

I can't see him being at all prolific at all but if he can weigh in with assists that will hopefully open others to score.

scouseclaret · Post by **scouseclaret** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:09 pm

No problem with players not wanting to be subbed, but if it’s true he didn’t celebrate the goals he needs a good talking to. Does he want to play in the PL next season or not? No room for selfish players at our club.

Nonayforever · Post by **Nonayforever** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:10 pm

I'm glad he wasn't happy at being subbed. That shows his desire to play. Watford had a better game plan which stopped us playing the the middle to him.
Credit to Jackson for shaking it up and playing more direct which loosened Watfords grip on midfield.
He will be celebrating tonight when he has stopped sulking.

Taffy on the wing · Post by **Taffy on the wing** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:12 pm

fanzone wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:29 pm
Didn't even celebrate the goals when they went in.....massive clown.

I doubt that very much!

Darnhill Claret · Post by **Darnhill Claret** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:13 pm

Well a change was needed. MJ made a ballsy choice. We won. I hope Wout calms down and apologises to MJ and his teammates. Saw it on the pitch once and he has a bit of history. I’m sure MJ can ‘manage it’. I don’t think it will split the dressing room but needs keeping an eye on. Barnes got more valuable minutes. We move on to the next game, much stronger.

willsclarets · Post by **willsclarets** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:15 pm

Anyone got any pictures that show him not celebrating our goals? Sounds like a mountain out of a molehill

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:18 pm

BabylonClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:08 pm
This. He was pretty awful for most of the game until subbed.

I still can't decide on him. He clearly has a good touch but struggles to keep the ball under pressure and clearly is still getting to grips with the pace and physicality of the Premier League.

I can't see him being at all prolific at all but if he can weigh in with assists that will hopefully open others to score.

Me neither. I don't think he's suited to football in England played with such physicality, intensity, and speed. He's clearly got bags of ability with the ball but my gut tells me he's more suited to the slower style of football on the continent, although I accept the Bundesliga is a bit more like the PL than other European leagues. I definitely agree he won't ever be a prolific scorer over here.

After the Wolves game I was full of praise for his attitude though which is why his behaviour today is so disappointing.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:18 pm

willsclarets wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:15 pm
Anyone got any pictures that show him not celebrating our goals? Sounds like a mountain out of a molehill

He went straight down the tunnel after he was subbed.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:19 pm

I feel for the lad, but there is a bigger picture.
I don't think Wout was the problem, I said at half time Lennon and Dwight needed to swap wings, and it worked a treat.
Hopefully time will cool him down and he can celebrate the fact that we MAY be playing in the Prem again next season.

Boss Hogg · Post by **Boss Hogg** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:19 pm

ksrclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:18 pm
Me neither. I don't think he's suited to football in England played with such physicality, intensity, and speed. He's clearly got bags of ability with the ball but my gut tells me he's more suited to the slower style of football on the continent, although I accept the Bundesliga is a bit more like the PL than other European leagues. I definitely agree he won't ever be a prolific scorer over here.

After the Wolves game I was full of praise for his attitude though which is why his behaviour today is so disappointing.

This

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:22 pm

Nonayforever wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:10 pm
I'm glad he wasn't happy at being subbed. That shows his desire to play.

And that's fair enough, but it should only go so far. Disrespect is quite another thing.
Hopefully, he'll be ok.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:22 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:18 pm
He went straight down the tunnel after he was subbed.

He got changed and was back out on the bench in his flip flops before we got the goals

Cleveleys_claret · Post by **Cleveleys_claret** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:23 pm

He wasnt off his feet when we scored, but he leant over his chair to look at the laptop on the chair in front of him. So was obvs watching the goal again. So what he is a sulker? He has proved with all his running he is a team player. He is a winner and as a striker wants to be the one scoring the goals to be the hero. Sadly that isnt happening at the moment. I am sure after some celebrations and a few light hearted comments from other players will bring him out of his mood.

Nothing to see here, we won, lets move on

beddie · Post by **beddie** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:26 pm

We need a fit Cornet back.

Burnley Ace · Post by **Burnley Ace** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:27 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:18 pm
He went straight down the tunnel after he was subbed.

then he came back and was sitting on the bench. He also celebrated when we won and went over with the rest of the team to salute the away fans.

Burnley Ace · Post by **Burnley Ace** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:28 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:22 pm
He got changed and was back out on the bench in his flip flops before we got the goals

They are “sliders” not flip flops

BabylonClaret · Post by **BabylonClaret** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:30 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:18 pm
He went straight down the tunnel after he was subbed.

He cane back though. He sat on the bench and looked to be grumbling. Missed the very end but enough have said he didn't celebrate the goals with the team for me to not believe it. Happy to be proved wrong g and I don't mind folks being angry if they are subbed but he was bobbins today.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:32 pm

Burnley Ace wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:28 pm
They are “sliders” not flip flops

Slides

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:32 pm

beddie wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:26 pm
We need a fit Cornet back.

This

fanzone · Post by **fanzone** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:35 pm

Taffy on the wing wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:12 pm
I doubt that very much!

It's true he didn't.

Apology will naturally be accepted

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:35 pm

Burnley Ace wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:28 pm
They are “sliders” not flip flops

You say potato, I say tomato

lrac · Post by **lrac** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:36 pm

ksrclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:26 pm
He ought to have been absolutely delighted at the final whistle, and if he wasn't I'm questioning whether he's a team player.

Hi I am suffering with depression. But today was unbelievable for me .I am smiling again

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:37 pm

I hope he scores the winner in the next game to shut the doubters up on here...works his socks off for us....we are in it together
Get of his back FFS

fanzone · Post by **fanzone** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 7:15 pm

Steve1956 wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:37 pm
I hope he scores the winner in the next game to shut the doubters up on here...works his socks off for us....we are in it together
Get of his back FFS

Fingers crossed he does exactly that, but today were very poor from him in terms of attitude and being in it together as a team.

what_no_pies · Post by **what_no_pies** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 7:28 pm

Was obviously disappointed to see his number on the board but that may have been disappointment in his own performance. He didn't look happy but nor did he express his unhappiness in any sort of deliberate gesture.

Jackson trying to level with him at the end and he didn't seem to embrace the sentiment but based on my own experience of playing sports at a reasonably high level I don't want my team mates or management patronising me when things didn't go well. I hated it actually.

Might show a questionable character but may be a sign of his desire to be better.

The most interesting thing about such a situation (if there is a situation) is to see how Jackson manages it. This is exactly how/where he needs to prove his credentials if there's any thoughts of keeping him in a management roll after this season.

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 7:36 pm

Why are we looking for something to complain about?

He's a very good player. We're not playing entirely to his strengths. No wonder he's not happy. Keep it all in perspective.

Enjoy the evening. We can watch MOTD and be safe in the knowledge it all comes good after an awful 1st half.

The Enclosure · Post by **The Enclosure** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 7:40 pm

A real sulk, its a team game not about one person.Gone down in my estimation today.Shows a real lack of respect.