Relegation.

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Re: Relegation.

Post by joey13 » Sun May 22, 2022 8:25 pm

Walkerpool wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 8:14 pm
Giving Dyche a new contract was a big mistake but on the positive side we have needed a reset for a few years now and I for one believe Alan PACE will sort things out.
Who gave Dyche the contract ?

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Re: Relegation.

Post by BabylonClaret » Sun May 22, 2022 8:27 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 8:18 pm
One thing I’ll say about today, the enjoyment the geordies took in relegating us will live with me forever, absolutely no need at the end from a large number of their supporters, I know I’d not do that when I can see a set of fans hurting, when’s there’s no rivalry between us
The players too. After he put the penalty away Wso came over and waved bye bye.

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Re: Relegation.

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sun May 22, 2022 8:28 pm

BabylonClaret wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 8:27 pm
The players too. After he put the penalty away Wso came over and waved bye bye.

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Remember who funds them now, and how happy they all are about that as well

Remember and add them to the list of clubs with fanbases that tolerate money and don't care where it is from

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Re: Relegation.

Post by tally » Sun May 22, 2022 8:30 pm

the Team/manager/ staff got stale for last few seasons (as in bread which once stale gets binned )
We got binned today

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Re: Relegation.

Post by Cleveleys_claret » Sun May 22, 2022 8:30 pm

I was positive I saw Trippier telling off Wilson after his penalty to which Wilson just snarkily looked back at Trips

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Re: Relegation.

Post by BabylonClaret » Sun May 22, 2022 8:31 pm

Weirdly if we'd held out at home against Leeds we'd have stayed up too. We would have both been on 36.

Fine margins indeed

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Re: Relegation.

Post by Nori1958 » Sun May 22, 2022 8:33 pm

Terry Cochrane wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 8:20 pm
No. Wolves and Brighton shared two points but Burnley were the only team to take 1.
That probably answers the opening post then.....

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Re: Relegation.

Post by Herts Clarets » Sun May 22, 2022 8:43 pm

Walkerpool wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 8:14 pm
Giving Dyche a new contract was a big mistake but on the positive side we have needed a reset for a few years now and I for one believe Alan PACE will sort things out.
Really? We have gone backwards on every front since ge took over. Financially, league position, academy. I have no faith in the bloke.

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Re: Relegation.

Post by Aclaret » Sun May 22, 2022 8:48 pm

I'm 62, can't remember how many relegations I've been through and I'm hurting.
I want my team to be as successful as possible but, as long as I have a team to support ! UTC.

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Re: Relegation.

Post by warksclaret » Sun May 22, 2022 8:49 pm

Pearcey wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 7:42 pm
Got what we deserved. It was an absolutely dreadful season and I’m glad it’s over. The club feels miles away from the one I’ve known since I first watched them in the 80’s. I’m sick of feeling miserable about something that should being giving me joy.

I’ll look forward to a season with no VAR, big club bias and a load of defeats.
My sentiments too

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Re: Relegation.

Post by expoultryboy » Sun May 22, 2022 9:02 pm

Before the season even started , most posters on this board stated we needed a creative central midfielder . Unfortunately the " board " that counts , did nothing about this problem . With a choice of Westwood , Brownhill , Cork or Stephens , you aren't going to compete against most teams in the prem .
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Re: Relegation.

Post by Spijed » Sun May 22, 2022 9:14 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 8:05 pm
Lack of investment over the past 3 years has cost us. Even one decent signing per window who could have gone into the first team could have made the different. Instead we’ve watched an ageing and injury prone squad with nothing been spent while we waited for a takeover to go through.
I think it was probably because things had gone bit stale under SD more than anything else.

Everton didnt have a problem with lack of investment but mismanagement has caused them enormous issues.

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Re: Relegation.

Post by Jimmymaccer » Sun May 22, 2022 9:19 pm

I’ve not read the rest

This lays at Garlicks door.

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Re: Relegation.

Post by tarkys_ears » Sun May 22, 2022 9:37 pm

Terry Cochrane wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 8:21 pm
The novelty will wear off after a visit to Luton on a Tuesday night.
Not if we win!

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Re: Relegation.

Post by Stalbansclaret » Sun May 22, 2022 9:43 pm

Terry Cochrane wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 8:21 pm
The novelty will wear off after a visit to Luton on a Tuesday night.
Great atmosphere in the away end at Luton and only 2 stops on the train for me :D

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Re: Relegation.

Post by Conroysleftfoot » Sun May 22, 2022 9:44 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 8:18 pm
One thing I’ll say about today, the enjoyment the geordies took in relegating us will live with me forever, absolutely no need at the end from a large number of their supporters, I know I’d not do that when I can see a set of fans hurting, when’s there’s no rivalry between us
Callum Wilson was really annoying today. Never jumped for a high ball, just complained he had been fouled. He seemed to take extra delight in scoring and sending us done, always thought he was a decent sort before today.

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Re: Relegation.

Post by bfcjg » Sun May 22, 2022 9:47 pm

Empty seats at most home games hasn't helped, we all get the tv money but the vast majority of other clubs get thousands and thousands more on then us which just better players, it was inevitable.

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Re: Relegation.

Post by Nonayforever » Sun May 22, 2022 10:30 pm

I wouldn't say it's exactly lack of investment more like lack of refreshment.
For me it went stale / wrong with Hendrick. We should have sold him for a fee and refreshed. He was never going to stay. The same happened with a number of players at that time.
We should have let them go one by one and refreshed.
Dyche got stuck in his safety zone.
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Re: Relegation.

Post by Stevie Morgan » Sun May 22, 2022 10:33 pm

Conroysleftfoot wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 9:44 pm
Callum Wilson was really annoying today. Never jumped for a high ball, just complained he had been fouled. He seemed to take extra delight in scoring and sending us done, always thought he was a decent sort before today.
He's a cnut and has been against us before.

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Re: Relegation.

Post by aggi » Sun May 22, 2022 11:33 pm

Tall Paul wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 7:42 pm
When we got promoted.
Ultimately this is the answer.

Regardless of what some wild optimists thought it was always going to be when, not if, we went down.

We still paid some of the lowest wages in the league, at some point we were going to stop outperforming that.

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Re: Relegation.

Post by Zlatan » Sun May 22, 2022 11:39 pm

bfcjg wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 9:47 pm
Empty seats at most home games hasn't helped, we all get the tv money but the vast majority of other clubs get thousands and thousands more on then us which just better players, it was inevitable.
The total sum lost by the amount of empty seats this season probably equates to 1 month salary for 1 player - drop in the ocean
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Re: Relegation.

Post by California Colner » Mon May 23, 2022 1:54 am

Just face it! we was no good enough
Even today not a shot in goal the first half
Do you think we deserved to stay up ?????

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Re: Relegation.

Post by Spijed » Mon May 23, 2022 2:09 am

ClaretAndJew wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 7:22 pm
Lack of investment when we finished 7th.
If that were true we wouldn't have lasted for four more seasons including a top ten finish.

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Re: Relegation.

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon May 23, 2022 2:50 am

Spijed wrote:
Mon May 23, 2022 2:09 am
If that were true we wouldn't have lasted for four more seasons including a top ten finish.
that's a short sighted view though, everyone could see an ageing squad and it needed refreshing or the inevitable would happen - and it did

edit: Anyway, after the new manager has been announced and the new players arrive I expect a Spijed prediction for next season ! :D

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Re: Relegation.

Post by kentonclaret » Mon May 23, 2022 7:52 am

The warning signs were clearly flashing last season when we were one of the 3 lowest scoring teams but managed to stay up unlike the other two. This season it is the 3 lowest scoring teams that drop into the Championship and a lack of goals, especially from midfield, has finally caught up with us and found us wanting.
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Re: Relegation.

Post by Dark Cloud » Mon May 23, 2022 7:59 am

There was a real opportunity to see the writing on the wall after last season and head off the inevitable during last summer's transfer window and we let it slip by. Whether that was Dyche's fault or down to Pace and ALK I don't know, but whatever happened or didn't happen under the last couple of "Garlick years" wouldn't have mattered had we recruited better last summer. Collins was a good buy (despite yesterday!) and Roberts is more than OK, but it was never going to be enough.
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Re: Relegation.

Post by Spijed » Mon May 23, 2022 11:22 am

Vegas Claret wrote:
Mon May 23, 2022 2:50 am

edit: Anyway, after the new manager has been announced and the new players arrive I expect a Spijed prediction for next season ! :D
Bit rusty on what's required for success in the Championship! ;)
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