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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by DubClaret » Wed Jun 08, 2022 11:34 pm

Besiktas fans seem to be getting mightily excited on Twitter after Weghorst supposedly made their Eagles Claw sign after scoring his goal..

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Burnley Ace » Wed Jun 08, 2022 11:39 pm

Papabendi wrote:
Wed Jun 08, 2022 11:18 pm
Dyche didn't want Drinkwater
Who did he want?

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Milltown1882 » Wed Jun 08, 2022 11:53 pm

DubClaret wrote:
Wed Jun 08, 2022 11:34 pm
Besiktas fans seem to be getting mightily excited on Twitter after Weghorst supposedly made their Eagles Claw sign after scoring his goal..
Surprised he remembered how to celebrate scoring a goal
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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by dsr » Thu Jun 09, 2022 12:13 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed Jun 08, 2022 10:56 pm
We looked through the stats before and he was considerably slower.

It was Deceiving but from memory the likes of Woods top speed was 7kmh higher than weghorsts
I doubt that can be right. That's the difference, for example, between an 11.6 second 100m time and a 15 second 100m time. Or in a sprint the length of the pitch, it would give Wood victory by 28 yards. I don't see any way Wood was that much faster.
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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Jun 09, 2022 12:52 am

Wout can **** off
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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Enola Gay » Thu Jun 09, 2022 2:06 am

Wasn’t overly impressed by Weghorst this season.

Or by Roberts, to be fair.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Woodleyclaret » Thu Jun 09, 2022 2:41 am

Connor Roberts played well this year but we need to use him more as an attacking player as Wales do.
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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by helmclaret » Thu Jun 09, 2022 6:14 am

Fantastic finish last night

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Re: Wout Weghorst

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Goddy » Thu Jun 09, 2022 7:27 am

Well, if Roberts has said what he's reported saying to WW then he's gone right up in my estimation. WW can do one as far as I'm concerned....

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by RVclaret » Thu Jun 09, 2022 7:30 am

Ever so slightly off topic but I think Connor Roberts is going to have a huge season.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by deanothedino » Thu Jun 09, 2022 7:32 am

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 2:41 am
Connor Roberts played well this year but we need to use him more as an attacking player as Wales do.
We must have watched a different player. Doesn’t cross, can’t defend, and looks lost while trying to defend.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Hibsclaret » Thu Jun 09, 2022 7:34 am

Looks definitely like he said that to me. You can be at odds during the game but when shaking hands at the end it should be different particularly when you are work colleagues. Interesting and definitely at odds with the one team mentality at Burnley created over the last decade.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Funkydrummer » Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:12 am

Get rid of the arrogant prick.

You're not wanted at our club pal, so do one.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Papabendi » Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:16 am

dsr wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 12:13 am
I doubt that can be right. That's the difference, for example, between an 11.6 second 100m time and a 15 second 100m time. Or in a sprint the length of the pitch, it would give Wood victory by 28 yards. I don't see any way Wood was that much faster.
Wout didn't look slow moving into position for that sublime header

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by DavePTClaret » Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:23 am

deanothedino wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 7:32 am
We must have watched a different player. Doesn’t cross, can’t defend, and looks lost while trying to defend.

Who put the open goal on a plate for Weghorst at Villa?

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Lancasterclaret » Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:48 am

Just seen the goal

He never had a chance like that for us, because we never counter attacked at pace like that*

Essentially an unmarked (but still technically excellent) finish into the top corner

*chance at Villa closest one, but that was with his feet, and a phenomenal block

Still think its a shame that he doesn't want to stay btw, but there is no point keeping a player who wants to leave
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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by TheOriginalLongsider » Thu Jun 09, 2022 9:02 am

Yeah but he wants to come back if we get promoted. I don’t think so Wout !

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by the_magic_rat » Thu Jun 09, 2022 9:06 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:48 am
Just seen the goal

He never had a chance like that for us, because we never counter attacked at pace like that*

Essentially an unmarked (but still technically excellent) finish into the top corner

*chance at Villa closest one, but that was with his feet, and a phenomenal block

Still think its a shame that he doesn't want to stay btw, but there is no point keeping a player who wants to leave
To be fair to Weghorst, it was his excellent movement that left him "unmarked".
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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Sheedyclaret » Thu Jun 09, 2022 9:06 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:48 am
Just seen the goal

He never had a chance like that for us, because we never counter attacked at pace like that*

Essentially an unmarked (but still technically excellent) finish into the top corner

*chance at Villa closest one, but that was with his feet, and a phenomenal block

Still think its a shame that he doesn't want to stay btw, but there is no point keeping a player who wants to leave
Wouldn't want hin to stay looked a bad egg after only a handful of games get shut

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Thu Jun 09, 2022 9:07 am

I hadn’t realised that celebration was the Besiktas claw thing.

Makes him look even more of a prat considering he is under contract and his underperformance was probably the main reason we were relegated and he would know the fans are devastated.

That knee slide too - didn’t he injure himself doing that down at Brighton? Even when he did score for us it didn’t end well.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by williamjblazkowicz » Thu Jun 09, 2022 9:07 am

I believe he tried his best for Burnley while he was with us. For whatever reason, it didn't work out. It's true he should have done better with a few chances although it's also true he played in a poor side without the best of service. A poor season in all. Shame but it is what it is. I'd prefer he stayed and helped us get back up but he clearly doesn't want to do that.

Edit -- can we really not get a fee for him? I really hope we can do better than loaning him out.
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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Jun 09, 2022 9:09 am

Not good enough to be playing in the Premier League
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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by warksclaret » Thu Jun 09, 2022 9:26 am

Do we really want him back if he goes on loan for a year. Hopefully his goal yesterday may have elevated what someone might want to pay as an outright purchase.The reaction from Connor Roberts at the end of the game last night might be indicative of what some of his Burnley team colleagues think of him. There must be an underlying feeling for a pro to come out with comments like that towards a team mate

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by deanothedino » Thu Jun 09, 2022 9:29 am

DavePTClaret wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:23 am
Who put the open goal on a plate for Weghorst at Villa?
Are we classing that as a cross? I guess it says a lot about his season as a right back when that's the moment used to defend his performances, in the 6 yard box on the left hand side.

As disappointing as Weghorst was for us, that one is more about Mings defending than anything Weghorst did.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Jun 09, 2022 9:38 am

deanothedino wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 9:29 am

As disappointing as Weghorst was for us, that one is more about Mings defending than anything Weghorst did.
Brilliant defending from Mings but any striker worthy of the name puts that in.
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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by deanothedino » Thu Jun 09, 2022 9:56 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 9:38 am
Brilliant defending from Mings but any striker worthy of the name puts that in.
I've seen a lot of people say that. Either he should "dink" it over Mings, he should "take a touch" (for the keeper to come back into play) but that's very easy for the armchair striker to say in hindsight. At the end of the day he did what you expect a striker to do, he put it on target.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Steve1956 » Thu Jun 09, 2022 9:57 am

Shame he won't be with us in the Championship he would have excelled in that division...with what we have seen and heard from him recently it's best he leaves us.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by RVclaret » Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:10 am

deanothedino wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 9:56 am
I've seen a lot of people say that. Either he should "dink" it over Mings, he should "take a touch" (for the keeper to come back into play) but that's very easy for the armchair striker to say in hindsight. At the end of the day he did what you expect a striker to do, he put it on target.
No, you expect your top striker to score the goal.
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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by KRBFC » Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:13 am

Who is Conor Roberts to say something like that to Wout though? like Roberts was brilliant or something, he was equally as disappointing last season.
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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by joey13 » Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:15 am

Papabendi wrote:
Wed Jun 08, 2022 11:18 pm
Dyche didn't want Drinkwater
Course not , not much of a manager if that’s the case :roll:

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Boss Hogg » Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:16 am

Wout scored against Wales. He didn’t look like scoring against PL standard defenders. If we get back up ( big if at the moment) we will need much better.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:17 am

deanothedino wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 9:56 am
I've seen a lot of people say that. Either he should "dink" it over Mings, he should "take a touch" (for the keeper to come back into play) but that's very easy for the armchair striker to say in hindsight. At the end of the day he did what you expect a striker to do, he put it on target.
He didn't do what I expected him to do. I've watched it time and again and any decent striker would have scored, simple as that for me.
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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:18 am

joey13 wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:15 am
Course not , not much of a manager if that’s the case :roll:
He'd had Drinkwater at Watford when he was assistant manager. A lot of suggestions that this was the Garlick signing that started the problems but I'd suggest they started much earlier than that.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by KRBFC » Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:23 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:18 am
He'd had Drinkwater at Watford when he was assistant manager. A lot of suggestions that this was the Garlick signing that started the problems but I'd suggest they started much earlier than that.
Seems to have crept itself into the modern game, everyone but the manager seems to sign the players. I'll never understand it, power hungry chairman imo

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by deanothedino » Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:23 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:17 am
He didn't do what I expected him to do. I've watched it time and again and any decent striker would have scored, simple as that for me.
Easy to say from your armchair CT.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by deanothedino » Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:24 am

KRBFC wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:13 am
Who is Conor Roberts to say something like that to Wout though? like Roberts was brilliant or something, he was equally as disappointing last season.
Great effort to stop the cross getting to Weghorst last night as well...

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by lakedistrictclaret » Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:25 am

:(
ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:18 am
He'd had Drinkwater at Watford when he was assistant manager. A lot of suggestions that this was the Garlick signing that started the problems but I'd suggest they started much earlier than that.
It has always amazed me that people like Garlick, who have had no experience of football, can bring players in over the head of people like Dyche, whose whole life has been football.

Or am I just being naive?

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Silkyskills1 » Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:27 am

deanothedino wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 9:56 am
I've seen a lot of people say that. Either he should "dink" it over Mings, he should "take a touch" (for the keeper to come back into play) but that's very easy for the armchair striker to say in hindsight. At the end of the day he did what you expect a striker to do, he put it on target.
I believe it was what is often referred to as a 'sitter' and he missed it. In fact, if there is an easier description than 'sitter' then that's what it was. A woeful miss, equivalent to the one Cornet missed at Norwich who at least redeemed himself a little by scoring a few others in other games.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by It Is What It Is » Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:33 am

Said in a while ago in previous post that I didn't think WW was happy at all at Burnley and appeared dissillusioned. I was slated for that.
His current stance says it all.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by TheFamilyCat » Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:38 am

lakedistrictclaret wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:25 am
:(

It has always amazed me that people like Garlick, who have had no experience of football, can bring players in over the head of people like Dyche, whose whole life has been football.

Or am I just being naive?
The chairman may sign off the signings but I'd imagine all the work before that is done by someone else (DoF, technical director etc) who would be a football man.

Either way, signing players a manager doesn't want can never end well.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by SalisburyClaret » Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:40 am

Seems to be a flawed character. Can't fault him for effort and a definite upgrade on Wood for this season. It's a shame as either of them would have been ideal in the Championship. Still, if he doesn't want to play for us then get shut for as much dosh as possible.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:42 am

lakedistrictclaret wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:25 am
:(

It has always amazed me that people like Garlick, who have had no experience of football, can bring players in over the head of people like Dyche, whose whole life has been football.

Or am I just being naive?
I don't get it either but it happened at Burnley before Garlick and it's happened since.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Goobs » Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:42 am

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 9:07 am
I hadn’t realised that celebration was the Besiktas claw thing.
That's because it wasn't. It was the Dutch Lion claw. He has done it previously.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:42 am

SalisburyClaret wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:40 am
Seems to be a flawed character. Can't fault him for effort and a definite upgrade on Wood for this season. It's a shame as either of them would have been ideal in the Championship. Still, if he doesn't want to play for us then get shut for as much dosh as possible.
Do you honestly believe he was an upgrade on Wood?

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:43 am

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:38 am
The chairman may sign off the signings but I'd imagine all the work before that is done by someone else (DoF, technical director etc) who would be a football man.

Either way, signing players a manager doesn't want can never end well.
It's quite normal in European football isn't it?
Director of football gets the squad together, a head coach makes it work, it's the same process in American sports too.

It's just never caught on here in football.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by ngsobob » Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:43 am

If Weghorst and Cornet are examples of the technical assessment ability of our owners, there must be a problem with their algorithm. Does it include character?

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by bumba » Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:44 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:42 am
Do you honestly believe he was an upgrade on Wood?
I've backed and backed Wout but he needs to be sold now beings too much negativity and.hasnt been up to it.
Hard to judge between him and Wood as service was poor and he's only had less than half a season and no pre season.
Personally still think he'd do better than Wood and is a much better all round player than Wood.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by RVclaret » Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:47 am

Funnily enough, Weghorst probably would have made a far better signing for Newcastle than Wood.

He would suit Howe ball far better than what served up.

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Re: Wout Weghorst

Post by Roosterbooster » Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:48 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:17 am
He didn't do what I expected him to do. I've watched it time and again and any decent striker would have scored, simple as that for me.
There was an entire discussion on this, and most people came to the conclusion that he did everything right, and was just unlucky. It was superb defending from Mings

I think he's just become the latest in a long line of scapegoats

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