Summer 2022 Burnley Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

[RVclaret]

I assume it would be the same as cork.

No reason to assume either way. Barnes wasn’t the same as Cork, for instance.

[taio]

That wouldn’t surprise me tbh. It’s pretty much the going rate for a keeper over 30

It would surprise me. No chance we'd sell him to Newcastle for that.

[Newcastleclaret93]

No reason to assume either way. Barnes wasn’t the same as Cork, for instance.

Good point I forgot about Barnes

[jedi_master]

That wouldn’t surprise me tbh. It’s pretty much the going rate for a keeper over 30

Turned 30 literally less than 2 months ago, he's hardly ancient! We sold Tom Heaton who was largely seen as our Number 2 (once Pope was to return to fitness) at 33 years old for £8m to a club that wasn't one of the richest in the world also. Records are there to be broken r.e costs for 'over 30's' players - let's not forget we got £25m for a 31 year old, out of form Chris Wood from...Newcastle United (release clause or not, it happened, they paid it).

We must sell him for a large amount of reasons but I don't think we are going to be pushovers in terms of the transfer amount.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Turned 30 literally less than 2 months ago, he's hardly ancient! We sold Tom Heaton who was largely seen as our Number 2 (once Pope was to return to fitness) at 33 years old for £8m to a club that wasn't one of the richest in the world also. Records are there to be broken r.e costs for 'over 30's' players - let's not forget we got £25m for a 31 year old, out of form Chris Wood from...Newcastle United (release clause or not, it happened, they paid it).

We must sell him for a large amount of reasons but I don't think we are going to be pushovers in terms of the transfer amount.

Yes, but the Premier league record for a keeper thirty or over is 16m.

Also Newcastle look to be Popes only hope of a premier league return.

What do you think they are realistically going to bid? I can’t see them doubling the premier league record?

[Wokingclaret]

Pace won't give him away, he's a money man

[RVclaret]

We must sell him for a large amount of reasons but I don't think we are going to be pushovers in terms of the transfer amount.

The point you’re missing is Newcastle hold all the cards in this deal. They have all the leverage. There is not one other PL club who is in for Pope, so we either sell to them or no one. If we need the funds for the rebuild / pay debts then we are in a weak selling position. That likely means a heavily reduced fee.

[Hedontplayforyou]

Player linked - Cas Odenthal - 21 year old centre half linked on a free , formerly of NEC Nijmegen, out of contract - not sure where the link has come from - sorry

[Wokingclaret]

The point you’re missing is Newcastle hold all the cards in this deal. They have all the leverage. There is not one other PL club who is in for Pope, so we either sell to them or no one. If we need the funds for the rebuild / pay debts then we are in a weak selling position. That likely means a heavily reduced fee.

Then we don't sell. Unless Pope asks

Also between now & 1st September a goalie may get injured, that will alter things

[RVclaret]

Then we don't sell. Unless Pope asks

Also between now & 1st September a goalie may get injured, that will alter things

Let me ask you, if you had to sell one of Pope, McNeil or Collins to fund this summers rebuild, who would it be?

[jedi_master]

Yes, but the Premier league record for a keeper thirty or over is 16m.

Also Newcastle look to be Popes only hope of a premier league return.

What do you think they are realistically going to bid? I can’t see them doubling the premier league record?

They may well start with a low-ball (£10-15m), but I'd be beyond stunned if a club like Newcastle could not be pushed up past £20m, especially if Pope's additional year is in our favour which may well be crucial. I will assume it is rather than isn't.

I think it's an utter irrelevance what the record for an over 30's keeper in the Premier League is historically, it's only a record till it's broken. Pope is at the top of his game, well regarded, and Newcastle United are one of the richest clubs in the world. Whilst we are probably keen to sell to help swell Vincent's coffers (and to get a keeper in who can build from the back, if Hennessey cannot), we don't know how desperate we are to sell following the refinancing/loan deferral's done by Pace also so can probably play chicken a little.

[Lancasterclaret]

30 years of age and an England international?>

And he's only worth £10 million?

Come off it eh?

Its a prime age for a keeper

[RVclaret]

30 years of age and an England international?>

And he's only worth £10 million?

Come off it eh?

Its a prime age for a keeper

No resale value though

[jedi_master]

No resale value though

I don't think Newcastle give much of a toss about resale value to be fair!

[ervi34]

Southampton are paying 12 million for Bazunu, a player with 0 PL apps. Pope should cost at least twice as much.

[Wokingclaret]

Let me ask you, if you had to sell one of Pope, McNeil or Collins to fund this summers rebuild, who would it be?

Well, I'm expecting Pope to go due to the World cup but not for £10mill.

I'm also expecting Cornet to go and Weghurst, that will drop the wage bill.

I would be surprised if nobody makes a cheeky did for McNeil due to his age and games played in the prem.

I do hope we keep Collins, but worried about the so called £25mill release fee, if so will need a new contract soon.

Not sure Cork will sign, if someone fancies his experience

[Newcastleclaret93]

They may well start with a low-ball (£10-15m), but I'd be beyond stunned if a club like Newcastle could not be pushed up past £20m, especially if Pope's additional year is in our favour which may well be crucial. I will assume it is rather than isn't.

I think it's an utter irrelevance what the record for an over 30's keeper in the Premier League is historically, it's only a record till it's broken. Pope is at the top of his game, well regarded, and Newcastle United are one of the richest clubs in the world. Whilst we are probably keen to sell to help swell Vincent's coffers (and to get a keeper in who can build from the back, if Hennessey cannot), we don't know how desperate we are to sell following the refinancing/loan deferral's done by Pace also so can probably play chicken a little.

I could see 20m happening but I suspect that would be the absolute max. That would break the record in the prem and make him the second most expensive keeper in history over 30.

[RickyBobby]

No resale value though

Ah yes, because Newcastle are a poor club and really need to resell him in a few years to balance their books.

[taio]

No resale value though

They won't give a toss about that

[Newcastleclaret93]

Southampton are paying 12 million for Bazunu, a player with 0 PL apps. Pope should cost at least twice as much.

Your buying potential there.

In comparison Pope had not even made a football league appearance at the same age.

[Lancasterclaret]

No resale value though

Yes there is, he's a keeper

Perfectly possible for them to play at the top level for another 6-8 years

[Newcastleclaret93]

Josh Laurent signing on a free transfer at Stoke.

Someone linked us with him on this thread

[RVclaret]

Josh Laurent signing on a free transfer at Stoke.

Someone linked us with him on this thread

Think I said he’d be a good free signing for CM, wasn’t a link though

[Newcastleclaret93]

Think I said he’d be a good free signing for CM, wasn’t a link though

That might be right. Just recognised the name

[RVclaret]

https://www.footballinsider247.com/ever ... 1655386778

Tarkowski to Everton looks done. However it’s suggested it may not be announced until the official end of his contract at the end of the month, due to strained relations between the two clubs.

[Quicknick]

Let me ask you, if you had to sell one of Pope, McNeil or Collins to fund this summers rebuild, who would it be?

Pope.

[RVclaret]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... -Pope.html

Simon Jones generally decent reporting - just adds a bit more to the Pope story.

Firstly, Newcastle are looking for a keeper deal for a low initial fee, as they need to ensure they fall in line with FFP.

This suggests below 20m to me.

Secondly, it’s believed their coaches feel they can improve Pope’s distribution.

[taio]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... -Pope.html

Simon Jones generally decent reporting - just adds a bit more to the Pope story.

Firstly, Newcastle are looking for a keeper deal for a low initial fee, as they need to ensure they fall in line with FFP.

This suggests below 20m to me.

Secondly, it’s believed their coaches feel they can improve Pope’s distribution.

Why do you think that suggests below £20m?

[RVclaret]

Why do you think that suggests below £20m?

Well it says they have been looking at loan options for a start. That suggests they want to spend as little as possible on a keeper. And as for reasons I’ve highlighted earlier, I’d be very surprised if we get over £20m with only one club in.

[taio]

Well it says they have been looking at loan options for a start. That suggests they want to spend as little as possible on a keeper. And as for reasons I’ve highlighted earlier, I’d be very surprised if we get over £20m with only one club in.

It says loan options OR a low initial fee. The latter doesn't mean a low overall few. Around £20m is probably about right but I was just curious how you thought that article supported such a view, rather than just knowing what your view is. Time will tell I suppose.

[ebby]

Not sure if its been posted already but a mate of mine who supports them has heard through a couple of sources thats where our keeper may be heading.

[fatboy47]

Pace won't give him away, he's a money man

This

[RVclaret]

http://www.uptheclarets.com/messageboar ... 5#p1837515

It’s literally the 4th thread down on this site

[Conroysleftfoot]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... -Pope.html

Simon Jones generally decent reporting - just adds a bit more to the Pope story.

Firstly, Newcastle are looking for a keeper deal for a low initial fee, as they need to ensure they fall in line with FFP.

This suggests below 20m to me.

Secondly, it’s believed their coaches feel they can improve Pope’s distribution.

Why are they bothered about FFP, just have a word with Everton. I'm sure they can tell them how to get around it.

[Sutton-Claret]

They can have him for 100million - 30million to anyone else.

[RVclaret]

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foo ... s-24246125

New link - Joel Latibeaudiere from Swansea, centre half, final year of contract, 500k fee mentioned.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Burnley linked with Joel Latibeaudiere

[Sutton-Claret]

Burnley linked with Joel Latibeaudiere

I'm going to struggle with some of these continental player names we're linked with.....

[AwayClaret]

Welcome Joel, bugger calling him by his surname

[taio]

I'm going to struggle with some of these continental player names we're linked with.....

He was born in Doncaster

[RVclaret]

As for Latibeaudiere, can’t say I’ve seen him but Swansea fans seem to think he was excellent for them towards the end of the season.

[FCBurnley]

Kompany said in his club interview part 1 that he has been allowed to bring some great people with him. I also suspect he will have known who is going and who’s staying prior to agreeing his contract. Not sure who was the interviewer but who’re the it was had no clue about football. Kompany nearly choked when the guy asked if had considered playing again !!!

[Newcastleclaret93]

As for Latibeaudiere, can’t say I’ve seen him but Swansea fans seem to think he was excellent for them towards the end of the season.

Pretty decent from all accounts.

[RVclaret]

Pretty decent from all accounts.

Id imagine he will be a ball playing cb too given the City upbringing and involvement with Swansea (possession based team).

[Newcastleclaret93]

Id imagine he will be a ball playing cb too given the City upbringing and involvement with Swansea (possession based team).

His stats would suggest that is accurate.

Interestingly he plays RCB.

[FeedTheArf]

Burnley linked with Joel Latibeaudiere

My thoughts are with the UTC spelling police at this difficult time.

[HitchinClaret]

Joel Piroe would be a good steal from them lot

[CharlieinNewMexico]

Id imagine he will be a ball playing cb too given the City upbringing and involvement with Swansea (possession based team).

Just had a quick look at some of the u23/u21s from City from the last couple of years when Kompany was there.
Seems like they nearly all were loaned out to Belgian or Dutch football quite young, presumably to build possession based skills.

[ŽižkovClaret]

I'm going to struggle with some of these continental player names we're linked with.....

1st crack at his song:

Just sing his name to Cecilia by Simon and Garfunkel.

Latibeaudiere
In front of our goal
Keeping clean sheets for Burnley

Oh Latibeaudiere
You've not come on loan
Turf Moor is your home
Come on home, come on home

[BobLordsPencil]

That's a no from me