Summer 2022 Burnley Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

[arise_sir_charge]

Yeah and that is probably the case as it’s the only reason anyone would take such a pathetic figure for a player like Nick Pope. If that is indeed the case, what a shambles of a situation.

Don’t know what’s got into you recently Jedi.

You’ve gone from a level headed thoughtful poster to a bit of a basket case especially when it comes to anything money/Pace related.

Just take a step back and ask yourself how does being desperate for £8-10m for financial reasons stack up with being linked with every player under the sun?

The answer is it doesn’t.

Calm down.

[Paul Waine]

Nick Pope has been great for Burnley. However, he is a Premier League keeper and BFC cannot offer him that this coming season.

So, next question, does Nick Pope fit into Vincent Kompany's plans for the 1st team? Is Nick in the same situation as Joe Hart was at City, judged not to be a great contributor when playing out from the back?

If Nick Pope wants to play for a Premier League club and Vincent Kompany want to develop the team with a goalkeeper that suits his plans, than it's only a question of what's the best deal that can be done.

No sentimentality about money. The club gains nothing by holding out for more than the best offer they can get. Wasted wages, a great servant of the club possibly unhappy and some of this rubbing off on other members of the squad. There are positives in getting the deal done, even if the fee is lower than the fans think it should be.

Who knows, NUFC might feel the club owes them something after they paid £25 million for Chris Wood.

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[clive40golf]

8-10 Million. So that’ll be split 1 million on new players 2 Million to pay off debt and the rest for the investors. Sounds about right for a Banker!
Let’s hope we have a magician at the helm who can pull a few rabbits out of the hat.

[RickyBobby]

Selling Pope for £8 million and reports that collins will go for less then we paid for him. Something is dreadfully wrong. It stinks of desperation. Seem’s like pace is desperate for cash to pay off some of the debt.
If we do get Twine I think he will be our most expensive signing this summer. Can’t see us spending more then £4 million on one player. Think we will be waiting to see who we can get on loan or in a free.

[jedi_master]

Don’t know what’s got into you recently Jedi.

You’ve gone from a level headed thoughtful poster to a bit of a basket case especially when it comes to anything money/Pace related.

Just take a step back and ask yourself how does being desperate for £8-10m for financial reasons stack up with being linked with every player under the sun?

The answer is it doesn’t.

Calm down.

Whilst I appreciate the initial comments, I’m certainly not a basket case! I have always held strong opinions on our financial situation, apologies if that has been more tempestuous to read than normal recently (and if that’s the observation, I take it on board and will be more measured).

I just don’t want to see us underselling players of Pope’s quality potentially (only potentially, it’s absolute guesswork isn’t it) to meet agreed payment dates on loans/interest etc - which is what my post you quoted was replying to.

R.e the players we’re linked with, you’re absolutely correct - the two don’t marry up. I said before that I feel Pace will back Kompany hugely this window to try and get back at the first attempt, which carries massive risk but also reward. I think we’ll spend a large amount (comparatively) for us this window.

[RVclaret]

Selling Pope for £8 million and reports that collins will go for less then we paid for him. Something is dreadfully wrong. It stinks of desperation. Seem’s like pace is desperate for cash to pay off some of the debt.
If we do get Twine I think he will be our most expensive signing this summer. Can’t see us spending more then £4 million on one player. Think we will be waiting to see who we can get on loan or in a free.

What reports Collins will go for less than we paid? How is 25
-40m less than what we paid? Can you explain please.

[agreenwood]

Don’t know what’s got into you recently Jedi.

You’ve gone from a level headed thoughtful poster to a bit of a basket case especially when it comes to anything money/Pace related.

Just take a step back and ask yourself how does being desperate for £8-10m for financial reasons stack up with being linked with every player under the sun?

The answer is it doesn’t.

Calm down.

Might be time to dust off the old Clarets Mad Jedi-swing-ometer

[ClaretMov]

If we sell Pope for under 20 million it's bonkers

[alwaysaclaret]

I wasn't making that point, I was saying you can't bring in too many from below.

I absolutely agree, can't agree enough with SC's words and your making that point, but I do think this one would be a fantastic signing and would make the step up, and you'd think can only improve at 22, hope we can confirm the interest in him and jed Wallace with their signings, utc's.

[jedi_master]

Might be time to dust off the old Clarets Mad Jedi-swing-ometer

It was always mythical!

[KlyBfc]

Whilst we were never going to get 40m for Pope I remain convinced we will be getting more than 8m for him. Much of the media recently seem to just push out absolute nonsense. We’ve had an article praising Collins then suggesting we’d sell for less than we bought him for, we’ve had links to all and sundry and much more. I try not to worry about how much we get or we pay for players as it’s not my money Im just looking forward to the season starting.

[Murger]

There isn't a cat in hells chance we get less than double what we paid for Collins.

[RVclaret]

Alex James at the Lancs Live suggesting the fee we want is nearer 12-15m.

[agreenwood]

It was always mythical!

No way. It was kept in Leeds. Coal powered tho, so in good conscience we had to retire it.

[Lancasterclaret]

Selling Pope for £8 million and reports that collins will go for less then we paid for him. Something is dreadfully wrong. It stinks of desperation. Seem’s like pace is desperate for cash to pay off some of the debt.
If we do get Twine I think he will be our most expensive signing this summer. Can’t see us spending more then £4 million on one player. Think we will be waiting to see who we can get on loan or in a free.

Excuse me?

None of that is remotely true

[jedi_master]

Alex James at the Lancs Live suggesting the fee we want is nearer 12-15m.

I would have been disappointed with less than £20m as I mentioned before, but £15m is more acceptable to stomach.

[AwayClaret]

No way on this planet will Pope go for £8m-£10m. Not a chance.

[jedi_master]

No way. It was kept in Leeds. Coal powered tho, so in good conscience we had to retire it.

[elwaclaret]

Seems to be a lot of people on this thread who have got too obsessed with wheeling and dealing on a Football Manager simulation game and now think they have the inside track on reality. Pace’s avowed intention is to buy low sell high… yet we’re going to panic dump our prized assets for a pittance… how does that work?

… and Idon’t want to hear about debt repayments, real as they are no one knows what they are… but how does underselling assets help a business?

A lot of stuff and nonsense to trawl through to find links and information on possible signings.

[jedi_master]

On that note, as it was missed due to the Nick Pope chat, I repeat - multiple tick accounts on Twitter are saying we are trying to sign Majeed Ashimeru from Anderlecht, central midfielder.

31 appearances, 3 goals, 4 assists last season in the league and it's fair to say that their fans like him a lot, from what I am reading.

[RVclaret]

Seems to be a lot of people on this thread who have got too obsessed with wheeling and dealing on a Football Manager simulation game and now think they have the inside track on reality. Pace’s avowed intention is to buy low sell high… yet we’re going to panic dump our prized assets for a pittance… how does that work?

… and Idon’t want to hear about debt repayments, real as they are no one knows what they are… but how does underselling assets help a business?

A lot of stuff and nonsense to trawl through to find links and information on possible signings.

Oh goodness me, just to repeat, once again, for you and others

- Newcastle are the only club in for him, this means we cannot force any kind of ‘bidding war’, they could easily go elsewhere and we are left with no sale… but the problem with that is….

- Pope wants and deserves to play Prem, will probably triple his wages and gives a shot at making the World Cup

- We need to raise funds for transfers ourselves

- Vincent Kompany wants his keeper to play out from the back at every opportunity, this is not Pope

- No keeper over 30 has EVER been sold for more than 16m in the PL and that was Portugals number 1

- It’s being reported 12-15m is more realistic than the 8-10 suggested

Tell me which part of that you don’t get

[ClaretTony]

I absolutely agree, can't agree enough with SC's words and your making that point, but I do think this one would be a fantastic signing and would make the step up, and you'd think can only improve at 22, hope we can confirm the interest in him and jed Wallace with their signings, utc's.

It’s sometimes how they adapt to the higher level. One such player who proved to be a huge success when he stepped up was Charlie Austin. And then he did so when he went into the Premier League.

[hoskinsgoalatswansea]

Oh goodness me, just to repeat, once again, for you and others

- Newcastle are the only club in for him, this means we cannot force any kind of ‘bidding war’, they could easily go elsewhere and we are left with no sale… but the problem with that is….

- Pope wants and deserves to play Prem, will probably triple his wages and gives a shot at making the World Cup

- We need to raise funds for transfers ourselves

- Vincent Kompany wants his keeper to play out from the back at every opportunity, this is not Pope

- No keeper over 30 has EVER been sold for more than 16m in the PL and that was Portugals number 1

- It’s being reported 12-15m is more realistic than the 8-10 suggested

Tell me which part of that you don’t get

I ‘don’t get’ how someone manages to make so many assumptions in one single post.

[RVclaret]

I ‘don’t get’ how someone manages to make so many assumptions in one single post.

Where are the assumptions?

[Ric_C]

By that rationale why don't Newcastle offer just 5million then?

We've got a price, we should stick to it. If they can't match it then it's tough.

[RVclaret]

By that rationale why don't Newcastle offer just 5million then?

We've got a price, we should stick to it. If they can't match it then it's tough.

Probably because there is a floor for what we would accept. But it’s a lot lot less than the 30/40m some people are suggesting.

[Woodleyclaret]

If we need to sell to clear alleged losses we go for top money no Happy Shopper giveaways

[ClaretLoup]

According to the Newcastle Chronicle Burnley are looking for £40 million for Pope and West Ham and Southampton are also interested in signing him.

[Smile]

According to the Newcastle Chronicle Burnley are looking for £40 million for Pope and West Ham and Southampton are also interested in signing him.

Bring on the bidding war.

[tiger76]

According to the Newcastle Chronicle Burnley are looking for £40 million for Pope and West Ham and Southampton are also interested in signing him.

Good the more clubs showing interest the better, doubt we'll get 40 for him, but 20-25 isn't out of the question in a bidding war.

[Murger]

Haven't Southampton just signed 2 keepers?

[tiger76]

Haven't Southampton just signed 2 keepers?

Yes so I'm surprised to see them linked, West Ham doesn't surprise me thoug, Pope impressed in both our games against them last season, and Moyes generally likes a solid keeper, rather than one who plays out from the back as many others prefer these days.

[claretonthecoast1882]

The Chronicle might be an old article. If so the lesson may be not to take every fact and figure reported by an uninformed "journalist" as gospel

[KRBFC]

12-15m sounds about right to me, wonderful keeper but GK's are generally cheap, especially if they're not U23.

[mybloodisclaret]

It's Newcastle. They paid £25,000,000 for Wood. Not a chance this is happening for less than half of that. With it being oil rich Newcastle, our floor shouldn't be less than £20 mill. Pope is class.

[FCBurnley]

Why is everybody on here obsessed with how much we get for our players. It makes no difference what we get as most of it will go to the loan etc. very little will be spent on players. I understand that players want to play in The PL but let’s not forget that these same players were relegated last season.

[blake's wand]

A lot will depend on the additional year on Pope's contract. As we've seen with Mane, players in their final year have their value dramatically slashed because the buying club knows they can get them for free 12 months from now.

I would hope we get substantially more than £8-10m for him, but if he is in his last actual contract year then you could expect at least 50% of what he is actually worth now.

[Rileybobs]

Why is everybody on here obsessed with how much we get for our players. It makes no difference what we get as most of it will go to the loan etc. very little will be spent on players. I understand that players want to play in The PL but let’s not forget that these same players were relegated last season.

Probably because the more money we get for the players we sell, the more that will be left over to purchase players after the loan payments are made.

[Smile]

Why is everybody on here obsessed with how much we get for our players. It makes no difference what we get as most of it will go to the loan etc. very little will be spent on players. I understand that players want to play in The PL but let’s not forget that these same players were relegated last season.

I doubt you'll catch many with that one.

[KRBFC]

A lot will depend on the additional year on Pope's contract. As we've seen with Mane, players in their final year have their value dramatically slashed because the buying club knows they can get them for free 12 months from now.

I would hope we get substantially more than £8-10m for him, but if he is in his last actual contract year then you could expect at least 50% of what he is actually worth now.

You can value Pope at whatever you want, the reality is he's worth whatever someone is prepared to pay. Clubs know we're absolutely desperate to sell, we have zero leverage we can just be bent over a barrel and get our arse tickled due to the desperation.

[BigChaCha]

Probably because the more money we get for the players we sell, the more that will be left over to purchase players after the loan payments are made.

Or money left to fatten the goose to sell the club with an attractive massive store of dry powder, while not investing in players!... Oh hang on, I'm thinking of another boardroom.

[leightonjameslegend]

Burnley are considering reunited MAJEED ASHIMERU with VK at Burnley.
The 24 year old Ghana international plays in Midfield. 33 apps 3 goals and 3 assists.
Source: Belgian Journalist

[ClaretAL]

You can value Pope at whatever you want, the reality is he's worth whatever someone is prepared to pay. Clubs know we're absolutely desperate to sell, we have zero leverage we can just be bent over a barrel and get our arse tickled due to the desperation.

I don't believe for 1 second anyone gets to know how much someone has bid, but with low numbers mentioned, you could argue he would be worth more keeping for a year.

[Spijed]

12-15m sounds about right to me, wonderful keeper but GK's are generally cheap, especially if they're not U23.

Apparently Pickford (23 at the time) went from Sunderland to Everton for £25 million.
https://www.skysports.com/football/news ... n-pickford

[Newcastleclaret93]

Apparently Pickford (23 at the time) went from Sunderland to Everton for £25 million.
https://www.skysports.com/football/news ... n-pickford

Better keeper and 7 years younger. No comparison at all.

[Spijed]

Better keeper and 7 years younger. No comparison at all.

You mean he lumps it up field with a bit more accuracy than Pope?

[elwaclaret]

I don't believe for 1 second anyone gets to know how much someone has bid, but with low numbers mentioned, you could argue he would be worth more keeping for a year.

I see no desperate need to sell. I can well see Pope wanting to see if we can get up first attempt. He has been first choice for us the the Premier League. People bring up the World Cup… where is Pope guaranteed to start for someone else?

I think playing regularly in the Championship will do less harm than sitting on a bench in the Premier League. Pope has made no public noises about leaving. If your good enough being loyal to a team does not mean the end of international opportunities… a long time ago now, admittedly but, it made no difference to Trevor Brooking when he went down with West Ham. I expect Pope’s people have already spoken to Southgate to find out his opinion and it seems from the outside Pope is going to see what Burnley want him to do; be it stay or talk to suitors.

[elwaclaret]

Better keeper and 7 years younger. No comparison at all.

You rate Pickford highly… I don’t, I think he is a liability.

[KRBFC]

Apparently Pickford (23 at the time) went from Sunderland to Everton for £25 million.
https://www.skysports.com/football/news ... n-pickford

Thanks for reinforcing my point

[KRBFC]

I don't believe for 1 second anyone gets to know how much someone has bid, but with low numbers mentioned, you could argue he would be worth more keeping for a year.

We can't afford to let him walk on a free, we're up to our neck in debt, we need every penny we can get from the very few remaining sellable players.