Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:50 pm

John Percy saying Wolves are in advanced talks to sign Nathan Collins for 20.5m

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:50 pm

https://twitter.com/JPercyTelegraph/sta ... 0064314369

Collins off to Wolves

Nori1958 · Post by **Nori1958** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:51 pm

Collins Close to joining Wolves 20m....source John percy, so probably right

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:51 pm

Well, we knew it was coming. Bit of a low fee, unless the release clause was true after all…

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:52 pm

So we need another centre half then.

Stu · Post by **Stu** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:53 pm

Bad news if true

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:53 pm

Horrific fee.

BuryClaret · Post by **BuryClaret** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:53 pm

Surely some add-ons involved in that. £20m would be a bargain.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:53 pm

agreenwood wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:52 pm
So we need another centre half then.

McNally, THB, Egan Riley, Long, Thomas.

Can see the argument for one but not sure we’ll go for it.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:53 pm

Jason O’Connor did say there was a 20m release clause…

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:53 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:51 pm
Well, we knew it was coming. Bit of a low fee, unless the release clause was true after all…

Or we are absolutely desperate and clutching at the first bid. Disappointing if thats the case

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:54 pm

20 million! I hope there’s a bloody big sell on fee included!

dandeclaret · Post by **dandeclaret** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:54 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:50 pm
https://twitter.com/JPercyTelegraph/sta ... 0064314369

Collins off to Wolves

That's a sickener. He was one of a couple of players of genuine quality I hoped we would hold on to.

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:54 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:50 pm
https://twitter.com/JPercyTelegraph/sta ... 0064314369

Collins off to Wolves

£20m? What the actual f*ck?

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:54 pm

That will be true. £20.5m when Lewis O Brien is going for the same. I feel absolutely sick about that!!!!

Selling the Crown Jewels pretty cheaply I think.

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:54 pm

agreenwood wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:52 pm
So we need another centre half then.

Hopefully one with some Championship or PL experience but I won't hold my breath.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:55 pm

DCWat wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:54 pm
20 million! I hope there’s a bloody big sell on fee included!

More concerning to me is what Stoke’s is.

£30m for Pope and Collins genuinely makes me sad.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:55 pm

jedi_master wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:55 pm
More concerning to me is what Stoke’s is.

£30m for Pope and Collins genuinely makes me sad.

Yep

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:55 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:53 pm
McNally, THB, Egan Riley, Long, Thomas.

Can see the argument for one but not sure we’ll go for it.

I was worried about our defence WITH Collins.

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:55 pm

What did we pay for him-if its £15m then the release fee is disappointingly low

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:56 pm

DCWat wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:54 pm
20 million! I hope there’s a bloody big sell on fee included!

Yeah 50%!!!!

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:56 pm

Add ons and sell on clauses to be added to that

I assume that he's told the club that he wants to leave, and its in everyones interests to get it done as soon as possible

Course, there will be other reasons why we might have to sell him, but we all know what they are by now

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:56 pm

If his release clause is £25m, why not just say 'meet the clause or f*ck off'?

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:57 pm

Murger wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:56 pm
If his release clause is £25m, why not just say 'meet the clause or f*ck off'?

It was suggested to be 20m

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:58 pm

I refuse to believe we’d agree to a £20.5m release clause for a player we signed for £12m.

Either the initial purchase was laughable or this sale is. Stoke have a sell on included so will we even make a £5m profit here? Mental.

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:58 pm

Phone Ben Mee and get him back in

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:59 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:50 pm
John Percy saying Wolves are in advanced talks to sign Nathan Collins for 20.5m

Expected and Percy is very reliable

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:59 pm

Got to agree with what has been said regarding the defence

We are missing experience in the spine, and that is going to be an issue

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 5:00 pm

Whats happened to that brilliant ability to get top dollar for our players. We were awesome at squeezing out every penny-maybe we can do a deal to get a Wolves CH player in. Did they not also show interest in Connor Roberts too

Hedontplayforyou · Post by **Hedontplayforyou** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 5:00 pm

I hope both clubs are low balling to the media , so they don’t show their hands to the rest of the football world .

£20m does not sound great if not

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 5:02 pm

Reality of relegation, and the reality of having cash issues unfortunately

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 5:02 pm

Maybe other clubs might come in forcing the price up

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 5:03 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:59 pm
Got to agree with what has been said regarding the defence

We are missing experience in the spine, and that is going to be an issue

If Vincent Kompany as an ex central defender can't deduce that then there isn't really much hope is there?

Hedontplayforyou · Post by **Hedontplayforyou** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 5:04 pm

Perhaps this sale will prove the catalyst in a domino effect of signings

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 5:04 pm

agreenwood wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:58 pm
Phone Ben Mee and get him back in

Should never have been leaving in the first place. If that really is our decision, it’s a bloody joke.

taio · Post by **taio** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 5:05 pm

Would be gutted to see Collins go especially at that price. Our most valuable asset surely. Puts those valuing McNeil at £25m into perspective.

nyclaret · Post by **nyclaret** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 5:05 pm

I’m very excited about this season but a CB partnership of McNally and THB doesn’t scream promotion. Maybe in a couple of years time?

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 5:05 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 11, 2022 5:02 pm
Reality of relegation, and the reality of having cash issues unfortunately

That explains it pretty well.

claret2018 · Post by **claret2018** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 5:05 pm

He is a talent, but I’ve said before, I wouldn’t miss any of last years team

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 5:06 pm

taio wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 11, 2022 5:05 pm
Would be gutted to see Collins go especially at that price. Our most valuable asset surely. Puts those valuing McNeil at £25m into perspective.

Puts Fulham signing Keane Lewis-Potter for £20m into perspective too.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 5:06 pm

taio wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 11, 2022 5:05 pm
Would be gutted to see Collins go especially at that price. Our most valuable asset surely. Puts those valuing McNeil at £25m into perspective.

Not really. Wolves rejected 25m for Gibbs White today after one good season in the Champ.

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 5:06 pm

Wow and there is Liverpool holding out for £25m for Nat Phillips who was on loan at Bournemouth. Know who I would choose

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 5:08 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 11, 2022 5:02 pm
Reality of relegation, and the reality of having cash issues unfortunately

People want us spending 10-15m on a striker, plus Cullen plus Muric, not possible at this level without a sale. Lets see what happens from here with incomings.

taio · Post by **taio** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 5:08 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 11, 2022 5:06 pm
Not really. Wolves rejected 25m for Gibbs White today after one good season in the Champ.

Really. Absolutely puts it into perspective.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 5:08 pm

James O’Connor did say the release clause was around 20m

He’s always spot on

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 5:08 pm

claret2018 wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 11, 2022 5:05 pm
He is a talent, but I’ve said before, I wouldn’t miss any of last years team

So you won’t miss Pope or Tarkowski then ?

BuryClaret · Post by **BuryClaret** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 5:08 pm

Cornet to follow Collins out the door in the not too distant future I'd expect...

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 5:09 pm

warksclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 11, 2022 5:00 pm
Whats happened to that brilliant ability to get top dollar for our players. We were awesome at squeezing out every penny-maybe we can do a deal to get a Wolves CH player in. Did they not also show interest in Connor Roberts too

Dunno. Im hoping both Pope & Collins had relegation release clauses. If they did, fine, but otherwise we’re doing a bad job on the selling side.

Have to say, our strategy atm appears to be: let go all the OOC/ageing players (no real issues), sign youth team/L1 prospects (I’m struggling to get fully on board with that), sell all our saleable assets quite cheaply (v bad, massive “cannot turn down” fees fine - but these are poor).

Things can change but I’m not at all confident about the forthcoming season as things stand. Excited but not confident.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 5:11 pm

BuryClaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 11, 2022 5:08 pm
Cornet to follow Collins out the door in the not too distant future I'd expect...

Cornet’s agent is working dammed hard to make that happen.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 5:12 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 11, 2022 5:11 pm
Cornet’s agent is working dammed hard to make that happen.

I don’t blame him.

Collins, Pope and Cornet - I expected to lose all 3.