ARTICLE: Collins departs for Wolves after one year at Burnley

[bobinho]

Shame he wanted to go rather than play for us in the Championship. Will he get the same abuse as WW?

Probably not. But then he hasn’t moved to a league that is arguably a lesser standard that he’s at now.

[claptrappers_union]

I think this is a good deal all round. Some decent profit considering he only made 20 apps for us, we would've taken that 12 months ago

If he stayed we got more for him January or in the next summers transfer window it would've been a real blow for us on the field.

[CardyTheClaret]

Sounds like a good deal.

Also seen 30m ‘reported’ I suppose we are using whichever report suits our agenda. Whichever way you look at it, he is unproven if you take the claret-tinted specs off - it’s a good bit of business.

[Les Lawrence]

We've always sold our best players and moved on. He wanted to play in Premier League fair play to him. Let's trust Vincent to buy wisely with the money, and sell em on again, when a big club/fee comes in for them.

[bobinho]

What’s boring about it , it’s true

Only true if the fee isn’t reinvested. All depends on how much time you want to give the club to spend it on new players. If it’s hours or minutes, then you have a point…. If the money simply disappears and we don’t see anymore incomings, then it will turn out you are right. Only time will tell you that.

We shall see, but I know where my money is….

[claptrappers_union]

Obviously gone as soon as he didn’t come back in for pre-season. Great talent but file under Weghorst, didn’t want to be here move on with people who want to play for Burnley Football Club.

It's the cost of doing business, yo.

[1989_claret]

So we rejected £20 million as we wanted £30 million and then we have sold him for £20.5 million.
It is becoming a joke. It is obvious he was off, that isn’t the issue, but to get only £20.5 million for him, and only around £12 million for pope is laughable.
Something is clearly wrong at the club and it is worrying. We should have made well over £50 million out of them 2, instead we made only £32-33 million. something is desperately wrong.

Love the supporters views who have no insight into how the club is run or how football works.

Don’t you think Mr Pace would have tried to get the most for the players or do you think Newcastle and Wolves have put bids in and we’ve just accepted the first or any offer?

What us fans think players are worth and what clubs are willing to pay are very different.

[fidelcastro]

So we rejected £20 million as we wanted £30 million and then we have sold him for £20.5 million.
It is becoming a joke. It is obvious he was off, that isn’t the issue, but to get only £20.5 million for him, and only around £12 million for pope is laughable.
Something is clearly wrong at the club and it is worrying. We should have made well over £50 million out of them 2, instead we made only £32-33 million. something is desperately wrong.

That's a wind-up, right?

[quoonbeatz]

A shame as I wanted to see him grow as a player with us. No doubt in my mind he'll be up there as one of the best in a few years as he's got everything, just missing lengthy experience. Fairly obvious he was going weeks ago when he was interviewed. I think most people know that when a player says "who knows?", they're on their way.

3 sets of big boots to fill for the ones who have come in.

[claret2018]

As Ric states above, he basically knew he was off some weeks ago.

As for demanding 30,40m for him, who was going to pay that? Clearly only Wolves were interested in him so we were hardly in a position to demand an outrageous fee.

A reasonably good player for us, but he could turn out to be the next Phil Jones rather than the next Beckenbauer

[CardyTheClaret]

So we rejected £20 million as we wanted £30 million and then we have sold him for £20.5 million.
It is becoming a joke. It is obvious he was off, that isn’t the issue, but to get only £20.5 million for him, and only around £12 million for pope is laughable.
Something is clearly wrong at the club and it is worrying. We should have made well over £50 million out of them 2, instead we made only £32-33 million. something is desperately wrong.

We should have? Are you saying we decided not to? The players were obviously not as in demand as we think they were.

[Big Vinny K]

More quality out, no doubt to be replaced by cheaper gambles.

I think the 9/1 about relegation will provide a fair trade opportunity at some point through this season.

Surely now is the time for you to lump on - whilst you are at the height of your pessimism !!

[GodIsADeeJay81]

So we rejected £20 million as we wanted £30 million and then we have sold him for £20.5 million.
It is becoming a joke. It is obvious he was off, that isn’t the issue, but to get only £20.5 million for him, and only around £12 million for pope is laughable.
Something is clearly wrong at the club and it is worrying. We should have made well over £50 million out of them 2, instead we made only £32-33 million. something is desperately wrong.

You stated recently that the club would sell Collins for less than we paid for him and when they actually sell him for £20.5 million you're now complaining it isn't enough.

Something is clearly wrong with you and you should start worrying.

[agreenwood]

Jason O’Connor claims Collins had a relegation release clause. I doubt many of those tend to be for astronomical sums or they’d defeat the object.

Maybe that was one of the conditions of him signing for us.

[Elbarad]

Good for him. We made a tidy profit and continue to show young players we will give them a chance to develop and then not stand in their way if bigger fish come calling.

[lakedistrictclaret]

We may be disappointed at the sale of Collins, but we shouldn't be surprised.

This sale epitomises the ALK business model. Buy ( or bring through the youth system ) promising young players, develop them, then sell them at a profit.

[RVclaret]

and you've had your head up your arse for 18 months if you don't realise what's happening at this club

The oracle has spoken.

[KRBFC]

The oracle has spoken.

Sorry Mr oblivious.

PSG spent £170m on Mbappe, we spent £170m on Alan Pace.

I was whining about the finances 18 months ago, and here's why..... selling our players to pay for debts.

[Lancasterclaret]

Surely now is the time for you to lump on - whilst you are at the height of your pessimism !!

Lets just put this into context

We lost the spine of our team in Mee, Tarks and Pope, and now we've lost the very decent back up

I think THB will be more than fine, but he's only on loan, and I'm sure the others will be fine in time, but its asking a lot for them to fill the boots of the really great players we have lost straight away

And I wish people would stop saying people are being pessimistic because they are looking at stuff realistically

We don't have a choice to do it any other way btw, and we are putting a huge amount of trust and faith in the management team

[ClaretTony]

Sad to see him go though. And dismayed but not shocked by the number of people deciding he wanted out and should be slagged off for it.

Totally agree, absolutely nothing to suggest he wanted out.

[RVclaret]

Sorry Mr oblivious.

PSG spent £170m on Mbappe, we spent £170m on Alan Pace.

I was whining about the finances 18 months ago, and here's why..... selling our players to pay for debts.

I simply bow down to your immense wisdom and knowledge

[RVclaret]

Totally agree, absolutely nothing to suggest he wanted out.

So Cornet’s agent is trying really hard to get him a move (according to you) but with Collins it was Burnley trying to get him out, and not his agent?

[fidelcastro]

I simply bow down to your immense wisdom and knowledge

You should. He's a football expert

[KRBFC]

You should. He's a football expert

He already knows this, he took a player from the KRBFC scouting list and ran with it like it was his own suggestion, he even quoted the fee I mentioned.

[RVclaret]

He already knows this, he took a player from the KRBFC scouting list and ran with it like it was his own suggestion, he even quoted the fee I mentioned.

Lol.

[fidelcastro]

He already knows this, he took a player from the KRBFC scouting list and ran with it like it was his own suggestion, he even quoted the fee I mentioned.

Which player was this?

[KRBFC]

Lol.

You did, I appreciate the support though!

[1989_claret]

Lets just put this into context

We lost the spine of our team in Mee, Tarks and Pope, and now we've lost the very decent back up

I think THB will be more than fine, but he's only on loan, and I'm sure the others will be fine in time, but its asking a lot for them to fill the boots of the really great players we have lost straight away

And I wish people would stop saying people are being pessimistic because they are looking at stuff realistically

We don't have a choice to do it any other way btw, and we are putting a huge amount of trust and faith in the management team

It’s more the pessimism around the ownership though because players have left.

We’ve needed a clear out for a number of seasons and relegation has been the catalyst for this and then relegation means you lose your best assets.

VK won’t perform a miracle over night but how about we give the new ownership and management team a chance?

[claret5]

He already knows this, he took a player from the KRBFC scouting list and ran with it like it was his own suggestion, he even quoted the fee I mentioned.

Jesus, you've got a big opinion of yourself

[KRBFC]

It’s more the pessimism around the ownership though because players have left.

We’ve needed a clear out for a number of seasons and relegation has been the catalyst for this and then relegation means you lose your best assets.

VK won’t perform a miracle over night but how about we give the new ownership and management team a chance?

We needed a clear out I agree but the majority of the players who needed clearing out are still here.....

[Elizabeth]

I’m not bothering putting on a brave face, this hurts !

[Lancasterclaret]

It’s more the pessimism around the ownership though because players have left.

We’ve needed a clear out for a number of seasons and relegation has been the catalyst for this and then relegation means you lose your best assets.

VK won’t perform a miracle over night but how about we give the new ownership and management team a chance?

Spend five minutes thinking about that post and the first reply is that I'm not giving the new manager a chance

[JohnMac]

Not really committed to being a Burnley player in the Championship, he served his time at Stoke. Oh well, you can't knock ambition and he will undoubtably go on to have a good career.

[FCBurnley]

Just wondering if anybody on here has a nice house for sale. Say around a million pounds. I want one with a bit of land attached that does not have planning permission at the moment. Once I get the house I want to build 4 houses on the lot. My offer is to give you 100k deposit and then pay you the remaining 900k when I get the planning permission. If the planning application is turned down then I will want you to loan me 900k to fund my payment of the balance due to you. Sounds fair enough deal to me. Oh and the price must include the 5 pieces of artwork In your lounge that currently have an estimated value of 100k each

[Burnley1989]

Some huge over reactions on here.

[Milltown1882]

Sorry Mr oblivious.

PSG spent £170m on Mbappe, we spent £170m on Alan Pace.

I was whining about the finances 18 months ago, and here's why..... selling our players to pay for debts.

Or maybe we have just brought in better players and to do so we had to put in release clauses. How many players were we selling for £10mil+ a few years ago?

[Nonayforever]

Disappointing news. Poor business deal from my point of view.
I would even hazard a guess that VK is now wondering what he has signed up for.

[claret2018]

Would you rather:

a) still be owned by Garlic etc, have Dyche as manager and have scraped PL survival last season and have signed no one so far, lost the OOC players and no new signings on the horizon

Or

b) be in the position we are in now.

I’m definitely in the B camp.

[Milltown1882]

All those slating Pace remember we lost Trippier for under 4million due to a release clause.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Would you rather:

a) still be owned by Garlic etc, have Dyche as manager and have scraped PL survival last season and have signed no one so far, lost the OOC players and no new signings on the horizon

Or

b) be in the position we are in now.

I’m definitely in the B camp.

Why would anyone be B? That is just the position of wishing you could get to A

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Disappointing news. Poor business deal from my point of view.
I would even hazard a guess that VK is now wondering what he has signed up for.

I doubt these sales have come as a surprise to Kompany. He said as much in his first interview.

[JohnMcGreal]

It's worth remembering that, Jay Rodriguez aside, none of our players are from Burnley or support the club. They're professionals at the end of the day, and if they have an opportunity to advance their careers, they will do. Collins is just the latest in a long line and he certainly won't be the last. I'd expect a few more to move to Premier League clubs before the window closes.

For the players we had/have who are definitely good enough to play in the PL, it's a big ask for them to sacrifice that and take a punt on what is a very uncertain project at Burnley, even if it's just for a year. That's just the reality of it.

Burnley were probably happy to sell to bring in some money, the player was probably happy to play for a better team in the top flight and Wolves got a good player with a lot of potential without breaking the bank. I imagine all parties are pretty pleased with the deal.

[Milltown1882]

I doubt these sales have come as a surprise to Kompany. He said as much in his first interview.

Could Kompany have just told Collins to stay away from training if the club knew he was going? Unusual to be the only one not there.

[claret2018]

Why would anyone be B? That is just the position of wishing you could get to A

Did you watch a Burnley game over the last 18 months?

This is the big reset we’ve needed for a long time. I can’t wait for the season to start, and I can’t remember the last time I thought that.

[1989_claret]

Could Kompany have just told Collins to stay away from training if the club knew he was going? Unusual to be the only one not there.

Probably cause the deal has been on for a fortnight!

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Or maybe we have just brought in better players and to do so we had to put in release clauses. How many players were we selling for £10mil+ a few years ago?

Not many

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[karatekid]

Yes he’s a decent player but without Bens injury he wouldn’t have featured much for us last season.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Did you watch a Burnley game over the last 18 months?

This is the big reset we’ve needed for a long time. I can’t wait for the season to start, and I can’t remember the last time I thought that.

Yes and our target for this season is to get back to A?

[DCWat]

Best of luck to him - I’ll be watching how he develops with interest. I’ve no doubt that he can make it to the top, time will tell.

A big shame that we’ve not been able to keep him for longer - but that’s the situation we now find ourselves in.

Over to the newbies to carry on our long line of very decent centre halves.

[KRBFC]

Did you watch a Burnley game over the last 18 months?

This is the big reset we’ve needed for a long time. I can’t wait for the season to start, and I can’t remember the last time I thought that.

What's the reset? people keep claiming this reset and rebuild but where is it? The majority of players who have left are big big misses or players who never featured. The players who needed replacing are still here...