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Re: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

Post by Rowls » Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:08 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:06 pm
Sky says Spurs have paid £12.5m, could reach £20m with performance related bonuses, probably if Spurs win the league title.
I'd take that for Roberts but if it's Spurs then the add ons need to be related to finishing top 10 so we have a better chance of the extra money.

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Re: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

Post by KRBFC » Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:09 pm

Tinribs wrote:
Tue Jul 19, 2022 5:24 pm
Prem quality ? We were relegated.
We had a bunch of thirty somethings on tens of thousands a week.
The wholesale change was overdue because of the absolute recruitment shambles pre pace.
Agree, ALK are to blame too though, they had 3 windows to rectify it and chose to make a January profit despite us sat bottom of the league.

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Re: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

Post by boatshed bill » Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:09 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:06 pm
Sky says Spurs have paid £12.5m, could reach £20m with performance related bonuses, probably if Spurs win the league title.
What? In their dreams, or for real? :D

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Post by KRBFC » Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:10 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:09 pm
What? In their dreams, or for real? :D
Spurs will finish 2nd this year behind City, mark my words.
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Post by NewClaret » Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:13 pm

Not seen it mentioned, no O’Hare in Coventry squad tonight.

Edit: sorry, didn’t see it amongst all the Spurs chat ;)

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Post by KRBFC » Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:22 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:13 pm
Not seen it mentioned, no O’Hare in Coventry squad tonight.

Edit: sorry, didn’t see it amongst all the Spurs chat ;)
Neither is Gyokeres or Hamer.

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Re: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

Post by jojomk1 » Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:22 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:09 pm
Agree, ALK are to blame too though, they had 3 windows to rectify it and chose to make a January profit despite us sat bottom of the league.
And don't you think Dyche had some major responsibility for transfer decisions over those three windows
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Post by boatshed bill » Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:28 pm

jojomk1 wrote:
Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:22 pm
And don't you think Dyche had some major responsibility for transfer decisions over those three windows
We had players on contract. Not a lot the new board could do to shift them.
With players' contracts ending this Summer it's been possible to shift some out and refresh the squad.

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Re: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:29 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:09 pm
Agree, ALK are to blame too though, they had 3 windows to rectify it and chose to make a January profit despite us sat bottom of the league.
you must have missed the bit where Pace flew to Croatia only for Orsic to get a twitchy arse
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Re: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

Post by gandhisflipflop » Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:32 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:09 pm
Agree, ALK are to blame too though, they had 3 windows to rectify it and chose to make a January profit despite us sat bottom of the league.
You mean 2 notoriously difficult January windows (one when they’d literally just taken over and the other one slap bang in the middle of a pandemic where clubs were signing players based on vaccination status’ to highlight the ludicrous state of affairs, or the only summer window they had when they signed more players in one window than the previous board did in multiple windows?
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Post by NewClaret » Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:33 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:22 pm
Neither is Gyokeres or Hamer.
Triple bid, get in 💪🏻

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:38 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:32 pm
You mean 2 notoriously difficult January windows (one when they’d literally just taken over and the other one slap bang in the middle of a pandemic where clubs were signing players based on vaccination status’ to highlight the ludicrous state of affairs, or the only summer window they had when they signed more players in one window than the previous board did in multiple windows?
So yes, amazingly ALK with have a lower net spend across four transfer windows then Garlick did across his entire reign.

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Post by KRBFC » Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:44 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:32 pm
You mean 2 notoriously difficult January windows (one when they’d literally just taken over and the other one slap bang in the middle of a pandemic where clubs were signing players based on vaccination status’ to highlight the ludicrous state of affairs, or the only summer window they had when they signed more players in one window than the previous board did in multiple windows?
Sounds like excuses to me, same excuses under Garlick infact. The recruitment team failed, I lay blame on Dyche, Garlick, ALK and the rest of the staff responsible. Seems strange to not blame ALK when they had 3 transfer windows and made a net profit, despite fans crying about lack of investment under Garlick.

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Post by KRBFC » Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:50 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:29 pm
you must have missed the bit where Pace flew to Croatia only for Orsic to get a twitchy arse
Sounds like the £20m Kalvin Phillips bid under Garlick, the £15m Che Adams bids and the almost signing of Ziyech. It's not Garlick's fault Dyche spunked £10m on Jay Rodriguez and signed Dale Stephens instead of Garlick's choice of Harry Wilson.

The blame Garlick for everything on here is tiring, he's part responsible for sure. That last summer window with only Stephens coming in was criminal but who's fault was that? Dyche loved Stephens, Garlick wanted to sell, ALK needed Garlick not to spend on transfers so they could take the cash out of the club to pay for shares.

I've even seen some posters suggest bad signings like Stephens blamed on Garlick, apparently Dyche didn't want the bad signings... It's a team effort and they're all to blame.

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Re: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

Post by gandhisflipflop » Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:54 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:44 pm
Sounds like excuses to me, same excuses under Garlick infact. The recruitment team failed, I lay blame on Dyche, Garlick, ALK and the rest of the staff responsible. Seems strange to not blame ALK when they had 3 transfer windows and made a net profit, despite fans crying about lack of investment under Garlick.
It isn’t strange, because what you say severely lacks in context. Pace has had 18 months now to see first hand where the problems lay. He sacked a lot of non playing staff - people whinged, he sacked Dyche, people whinged, he has overhauled the playing squad and got one of the biggest names in world football in as boss and yet people choose to whinge about net spend. Laughable and shows a complete lack of understanding of the game in my opinion. Anyway, back to rumours...
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Post by KRBFC » Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:56 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:54 pm
It isn’t strange, because what you say severely lacks in context. Pace has had 18 months now to see first hand where the problems lay. He sacked a lot of non playing staff - people whinged, he sacked Dyche, people whinged, he has overhauled the playing squad and got one of the biggest names in world football in as boss and yet people choose to whinge about net spend. Laughable and shows a complete lack of understanding of the game in my opinion. Anyway, back to rumours...
I'm talking about relegation and ALK's failure to address key areas of the squad in the previous 3 windows, nothing about Dyche's sacking or Kompany's hiring, both decisions which I fully support btw.

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Post by gandhisflipflop » Tue Jul 19, 2022 8:07 pm

The squad had been neglected to such a point that to turn that around in 2 transfer windows (I’m not counting the first one as they’d only just taken over) at that level was nigh on impossible. Despite what some may believe, we actually had a much better summer window than previous windows last summer. It was a start. By the time Jan came along, maybe pace and the recruitment team did go for targets, only to be told no by Dyche, maybe that was the catalyst for the change in thinking about moving forward with Dyche. The one mistake they did make was to give him such a long deal, but again that’s with hindsight. Pace has now settled in, and I trust him completely to turn the club around.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Jul 19, 2022 8:09 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Tue Jul 19, 2022 8:07 pm
The squad had been neglected to such a point that to turn that around in 2 transfer windows (I’m not counting the first one as they’d only just taken over) at that level was nigh on impossible. Despite what some may believe, we actually had a much better summer window than previous windows last summer. It was a start. By the time Jan came along, maybe pace and the recruitment team did go for targets, only to be told no by Dyche, maybe that was the catalyst for the change in thinking about moving forward with Dyche. The one mistake they did make was to give him such a long deal, but again that’s with hindsight. Pace has now settled in, and I trust him completely to turn the club around.
Having blind faith in Pace is an interesting take.

To date there’s nothing to suggest he will achieve half of what Garlick did.

I hope he does but I can’t see it.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jul 19, 2022 8:11 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:56 pm
I'm talking about relegation and ALK's failure to address key areas of the squad in the previous 3 windows, nothing about Dyche's sacking or Kompany's hiring, both decisions which I fully support btw.
it will be an unpopular opinion on here but I really think Dyche ball screwed us in the transfer window, even that lad buggered off to Bournemouth for less money because of it.

Annnnnnyway, anyone heard anything more about Delap ?
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Post by gandhisflipflop » Tue Jul 19, 2022 8:11 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Jul 19, 2022 8:09 pm
Having blind faith in Pace is an interesting take.

To date there’s nothing to suggest he will achieve half of what Garlick did.

I hope he does but I can’t see it.
It isn’t blind faith, it’s called giving them a chance. They’ve impressed me this summer. And please list all of garlicks outstanding achievements
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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Jul 19, 2022 8:11 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Tue Jul 19, 2022 8:11 pm
it will be an unpopular opinion on here but I really think Dyche ball screwed us in the transfer window, even that lad buggered off to Bournemouth for less money because of it.

Annnnnnyway, anyone heard anything more about Delap ?
Nothing more than that rumour earlier
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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Jul 19, 2022 8:12 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Tue Jul 19, 2022 8:11 pm
It isn’t blind faith, it’s called giving them a chance. They’ve impressed me this summer. And please list all of garlicks outstanding achievements
Seriously?

6 consecutive seasons in the premier league, known as the best run club in the country, getting our academy to Cat 1 status, European run.

Need some more?
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Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jul 19, 2022 8:17 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Jul 19, 2022 8:12 pm
Seriously?

6 consecutive seasons in the premier league, known as the best run club in the country, getting our academy to Cat 1 status, European run.

Need some more?
did you see how much he raised the price of Twix ffs :D

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Re: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

Post by gandhisflipflop » Tue Jul 19, 2022 8:17 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Jul 19, 2022 8:12 pm
Seriously?

6 consecutive seasons in the premier league, known as the best run club in the country, getting our academy to Cat 1 status, European run.

Need some more?
Oh yeah that’s right, I’d forgot that we need to pass off Dyches achievements as Garlicks own. Jesus wept. Anymore rumours anyone?

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Post by RVclaret » Tue Jul 19, 2022 8:19 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Tue Jul 19, 2022 8:17 pm
Oh yeah that’s right, I’d forgot that we need to pass off Dyches achievements as Garlicks own. Jesus wept. Anymore rumours anyone?
Nothing new, all gone a bit quiet

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Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jul 19, 2022 8:21 pm

sounds like we are, as Kompany says, very active
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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Jul 19, 2022 8:22 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Tue Jul 19, 2022 8:17 pm
Oh yeah that’s right, I’d forgot that we need to pass off Dyches achievements as Garlicks own. Jesus wept. Anymore rumours anyone?
Dyche and Garlicks achievements are hand in hand. Just like Dyche and ALKs failures are hand in hand.

I find it strange that you demonise our most successful period of the modern era yet praise the new owners that to date have failed to achieve there targets.

like you said back to rumours

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Post by Selby Claret » Tue Jul 19, 2022 8:25 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Tue Jul 19, 2022 8:21 pm
sounds like we are, as Kompany says, very active
With what?
What?!
A lovely what?!?
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Post by KRBFC » Tue Jul 19, 2022 8:34 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Tue Jul 19, 2022 8:21 pm
sounds like we are, as Kompany says, very active
I must say, I do really like Pace, seems like a nice bloke. Hopefully I can get over the financials of the takeover with time, I admired his actions last season at times, made a bold decision sacking Dyche and had the knackers to never hide, always showed his face and stood up to those critical (I wasn't one of those criticizing that decision). Desperately unfortunate that decision didn't work out, so so close and Jackson kinda bottled it, coupled with Everton's crazy end of season form (beating Chelsea and Man U at home). I like the Kompany hiring and like the swiftness and direction of the signings, the teams shaping nicely, 3 quality additions and I'd bet on us to go up in the next 2 years.
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Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jul 19, 2022 8:37 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Tue Jul 19, 2022 8:34 pm
I must say, I do really like Pace, seems like a nice bloke. Hopefully I can get over the financials of the takeover with time, I admired his actions last season at times, made a bold decision sacking Dyche and had the knackers to never hide, always showed his face and stood up to those critical (I wasn't one of those criticizing that decision). Desperately unfortunate that decision didn't work out, so so close and Jackson kinda bottled it, coupled with Everton's crazy end of season form (beating Chelsea and Man U at home). I like the Kompany hiring and like the swiftness and direction of the signings, the teams shaping nicely, 3 quality additions and I'd bet on us to go up in the next 2 years.
agree with all of that

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Post by It Is What It Is » Tue Jul 19, 2022 8:50 pm

Calm down pussy cats!
Look... we're all in it together.
We all want the best for Burnley FC.
Only optimism allowed ..Ok

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Post by joey13 » Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:03 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Tue Jul 19, 2022 8:34 pm
I must say, I do really like Pace, seems like a nice bloke. Hopefully I can get over the financials of the takeover with time, I admired his actions last season at times, made a bold decision sacking Dyche and had the knackers to never hide, always showed his face and stood up to those critical (I wasn't one of those criticizing that decision). Desperately unfortunate that decision didn't work out, so so close and Jackson kinda bottled it, coupled with Everton's crazy end of season form (beating Chelsea and Man U at home). I like the Kompany hiring and like the swiftness and direction of the signings, the teams shaping nicely, 3 quality additions and I'd bet on us to go up in the next 2 years.
Had the knackers to never hide ?
Have you got a link to his comments when we got relegated as I must have missed what he said , cheers

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Post by Stayingup » Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:03 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:09 pm
Agree, ALK are to blame too though, they had 3 windows to rectify it and chose to make a January profit despite us sat bottom of the league.
Three windows but but no money. I just don't understand how you can't fathom that. Perhaps if you stopped punching away on your tablet and sat back and thought about something you might post something apt.
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Post by FCBurnley » Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:07 pm

Anybody know our net spend/income since ALK took over ?o
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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:08 pm

I hope we sign someone soon then all this bitching can stop

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:12 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:07 pm
Anybody know our net spend/income since ALK took over ?o
I believe it was 5m before this window.

So probably around 20m in profit now before any more deals are done.

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Post by Nori1958 » Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:14 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:08 pm
I hope we sign someone soon then all this bitching can stop
Hasn't worked previously
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Post by Big Vinny K » Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:19 pm

In Collins, Cornet, Roberts and Weghorst at cost of around £40m I guess ?
Out - Wood….£25m.
The Chris Wood sale was not planned and out of the blue - and obviously we would not have bought Weghorst if we had kept Wood.
With relegation obviously everything changes and I don’t think it’s that relevant to talk about net spend when the financial situation of the club changes so drastically.

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Post by Tinribs » Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:39 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:09 pm
Agree, ALK are to blame too though, they had 3 windows to rectify it and chose to make a January profit despite us sat bottom of the league.
I don’t think they chose to make a profit,they had very little say in the Chris woods sale and Pace was all over Europe chasing players who didn’t want to risk either going to a bottom 3 team or playing Dycheball

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Post by BennyD » Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:47 pm

Mitrovic is an an absolute monster in the Campionship but in the Prem, he can't hit a cow's ar5e with a banjo. I'm sure Cornet could well be our version of Mitrovic, but we know he can cope in the Prem.

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Post by Devils_Advocate » Tue Jul 19, 2022 10:06 pm

BennyD wrote:
Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:47 pm
Mitrovic is an an absolute monster in the Campionship but in the Prem, he can't hit a cow's ar5e with a banjo. I'm sure Cornet could well be our version of Mitrovic, but we know he can cope in the Prem.
Mitrovic has a better goal scoring record in the Premier League than both Barnes and Jay-Rod

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Post by JR1882 » Tue Jul 19, 2022 10:21 pm

It’s no good knocking our net spend when our whole business model is to make more selling than we spend, in order to remain competitive at the top table.
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Post by agreenwood » Tue Jul 19, 2022 10:42 pm

Linked with Bertrand Traore on loan from Villa.

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Post by Taffy on the wing » Tue Jul 19, 2022 10:48 pm

.......is this the right room for an argument?
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Re: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

Post by Bigvince » Tue Jul 19, 2022 10:51 pm

Taffy on the wing wrote:
Tue Jul 19, 2022 10:48 pm
.......is this the right room for an argument?
I’m sure someone will be able to accommodate you! 😁
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Re: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

Post by Steddyman » Tue Jul 19, 2022 10:54 pm

Why does every transfer thread always deteriorate into this? It' really tiring.

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Re: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

Post by NewClaret » Tue Jul 19, 2022 10:55 pm

Taffy on the wing wrote:
Tue Jul 19, 2022 10:48 pm
.......is this the right room for an argument?
Just criticise Brownhill, Garlick or Pace and you’ll be away :lol:

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Re: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

Post by NewClaret » Tue Jul 19, 2022 10:56 pm

agreenwood wrote:
Tue Jul 19, 2022 10:42 pm
Linked with Bertrand Traore on loan from Villa.
Potentially a very good signing but on £130k per and apparently Villa want £91k of that to be paid by the loan club. NEXXXT!!

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Re: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

Post by agreenwood » Tue Jul 19, 2022 11:02 pm

Oddly, the tweet from Sacha Tavolieri re Traore has since been deleted.

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Re: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

Post by agreenwood » Tue Jul 19, 2022 11:05 pm

This was it
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