Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

[Rileybobs]

BPF would terrify me to be honest. Look at the goal he conceded at Shrewsbury. Not sure I’ve ever seen him make a save in a Burnley shirt.

[Hedontplayforyou]

Do we only play Newcastle whilst we are in Portugal or is there another game ?

[Spijed]

Peter Shilton was 16 when he made his debut in the top flight.

Football is a completely different to what it was back then.

[fidelcastro]

So was it BPF or Norris that conceded at Shrewsbury?

[Boxy]

It was norris who conceded at Shrewsbury. Keepers was swapped at HT

[ervi34]

BPF would terrify me to be honest. Look at the goal he conceded at Shrewsbury. Not sure I’ve ever seen him make a save in a Burnley shirt.

That was Norris.

[BigChaCha]

Surely the last thing we need is another CB, even with Colins going, we've got Egan-Riley, Long, McNally, THB and Thomas who can all play there if needed.

Thomas is completely unproven and not what I would call a first-team squad player and by his own admission, Egan-Riley is more of a utility back who can play across the backline. Long is obviously not fancied and we have been looking to cut the wage bill all summer of players on older contracts so that leaves 2 kids, one of them only playing at a lower level than we do now!

[dandeclaret]

Peter Shilton was 16 when he made his debut in the top flight.

So no problem if we've signed one of the finest goalkeepers of a generation.... maybe more of an issue if he's short of that level?

[UpTheClaretsFCBK]

Ironically, Peacock-Farrell has look a nervous kid in every game I’ve seen him play for us.

We have to be aiming higher than him.

If Verbruggen isn’t ready then why are we paying €5 million for him when we could buy someone who is?

[BigChaCha]

BPF would terrify me to be honest. Look at the goal he conceded at Shrewsbury. Not sure I’ve ever seen him make a save in a Burnley shirt.

That wasn't him playing and that conceded goal was mainly the fault of Josh Cullen so does Cullen terrify you as well?

[ashtonlongsider]

It's been a fabulous transfer window thus far, but I think it's a mistake selling Hennessey. His experience would have been invaluable, especially as it appears its going to be an inexperienced CB combination.

[Rileybobs]

That was Norris.

Ah, cheers. My mistake. Only saw the fairly poor quality goal replays. Looked like bad goalkeeping. Hope this Belgian lad is good because I think we’re going to have a shock considering the quality of our goalkeepers over the past 9/10 years.

[Rileybobs]

That wasn't him playing and that conceded goal was mainly the fault of Josh Cullen so does Cullen terrify you as well?

Yes I acknowledged my mistake in the other post. Well, it’s only a pre-season friendly but it was slightly concerning how easily Cullen was dispossessed. I’ve never seen him play before and you would expect that the quality he was up against in Belgium was better than Shrewsbury so hopefully just a bit of rustiness. But that goal does show that mistakes will happen, and playing in England could be a gear change for any player we signed from overseas leagues.

As for the goalkeeping, that would have been a totally routine save for Pope. Obviously we don’t have Pope any more, but we need better than what we’ve got.

[adropofclaret]

Thomas is completely unproven and not what I would call a first-team squad player and by his own admission, Egan-Riley is more of a utility back who can play across the backline. Long is obviously not fancied and we have been looking to cut the wage bill all summer of players on older contracts so that leaves 2 kids, one of them only playing at a lower level than we do now!

Thomas and Eton Rifles were decent v Shrewsbury, in fact I'd say Thomas was my pick of the defenders, very calm, wanted and saw plenty of the ball and I'm really impressed.

[Hapag Lloyd]

The problem is BPF often plays like a nervous kid. The Wednesday fans say that his his major weakness and why Leeds got rid and we have seen it when he has played for our first team .

He won the Wednesday fans player of the month for August and December. He played 45 games for them keeping 15 clean sheets and conceding 42 goals, on average less than a goal a game.
He’s not as bad as you’re trying to make out.

[gandhisflipflop]

Eton Rifles , sounds like a rugby side

[RVclaret]

https://www.footballinsider247.com/sour ... lum-ohare/

Advanced talks to sign O’Hare.

Footy insider were the first to break the Twine deal.

Nothing really new in there, mind.

[Rileybobs]

O’Hare looks like an exciting signing. Presumably there is no way we’d be paying that fee without selling Cornet?

[KRBFC]

From up the clarets fb page so don’t shoot the messenger....

Burnley have been linked with a €5 million move for Croatian Hajduk Split centre back Mario Vušković. The Croatia U21 international has previously been linked with a move to Brentford, and is a year into a two-year loan spell with Bundesliga 2. side Hamburger SV. He made 24 appearances for them last season as they finished third in the table. He’s also previously has interest from Napoli, Celtic and Torino

I actually watched Hamburg win at the weekend, poor game, really poor standard. Vuskovic was taking direct freekicks.

[RVclaret]

O’Hare looks like an exciting signing. Presumably there is no way we’d be paying that fee without selling Cornet?

Andy Jones has put together a good article ‘Why Burnley want Callum O’Hare’ today in the Athletic, worth a read for those who can access it. He notes that O’Hare created the most chances in the league from open play last season.

As for Cornet, I’d have to agree, surely it means a sale is close.

[Culmclaret]

Very relaxed about Cornet because I just don’t see him playing that many games.

[Rileybobs]

Andy Jones has put together a good article ‘Why Burnley want Callum O’Hare’ today in the Athletic, worth a read for those who can access it. He notes that O’Hare created the most chances in the league from open play last season.

As for Cornet, I’d have to agree, surely it means a sale is close.

Sounds like we’re looking to address creating chances. Just seems obvious that we’re going to need someone to actually finish them. Cornet is our best bet at the moment and it’s hard to see us spending that fee on O’Hare without Cornet being sold. Let’s hope we have an ace up out sleeve in the striker department.

[Darnhill Claret]

But if we managed to keep hold of Cornet.......

[RVclaret]

But if we managed to keep hold of Cornet.......

Nixon literally said one of our directors is working specifically to broker a deal for Cornet, Kompany said are planning for life without him, it just seems so obvious he’s going.

[claretandy]

https://www.footballinsider247.com/sour ... lum-ohare/

Advanced talks to sign O’Hare.

Footy insider were the first to break the Twine deal.

Nothing really new in there, mind.

They've been saying that for the last 10 days.

[distortiondave]

I'm not sure Cornet is our best at taking chances. A lot of the goals he scored were brilliant goals that other players wouldn't have been able to score, but he missed a penalty and a sitter at Norwich.
All strikers miss those, I know, but if we're going to be creating more relatively simple tap in chances per game, then I reckon Jay or Barnes (or Vydra) would outscore Cornet.

[Commy]

Have we given up on the lad from Rotherham? Shame if he is as good as what people said about him becoming a Premier League player.

[Darnhill Claret]

All players have mistakes in them. Try and get used to it. The problem is, we see far too much of City and Liverpool and compare our players to theirs. Just value the gems that our players will produce from time to time and the outcomes of games. VK and his staff will work on that, the players will try and execute on the pitch what they have practiced in training and we will have the privilege of watching some of the best young talent around. I think that VK will rotate his squad for the whole of the season. At this time I would perm any 2 from 3 of Bastien, Cork and Cullen protecting our defensive unit, with any 2 from 3 of Brownhill, McNeill and Twine just behind our front two. Up front at present it would be any 2 from 3 from Barnes, Cornet and Rodriquez. The odd one out from those groups likely to get some game time from the bench. My back 4 at this stage gives me the most choice, probably Roberts and Taylor on the flanks with Harwood-Bellis and one other in the middle and everyone fighting for the shirt or a place on the bench. Exciting Times.

[IanMcL]

Eton Rifles , sounds like a rugby side

Only a step away from Eton Mess!

Let's not call him names!

[IanMcL]

Sounds like we’re looking to address creating chances. Just seems obvious that we’re going to need someone to actually finish them. Cornet is our best bet at the moment and it’s hard to see us spending that fee on O’Hare without Cornet being sold. Let’s hope we have an ace up out sleeve in the striker department.

It could be McNeil for O'Hare! WHU allegedly.

Cornet could also go. Then more would be needed!

[warksclaret]

BPF would terrify me to be honest. Look at the goal he conceded at Shrewsbury. Not sure I’ve ever seen him make a save in a Burnley shirt.

Sadly goal keepers are remembered for their mistakes. My memories of him when he deputised for Pope two seasons ago were poor. He played so bad in the 3-4 games that SD gave the shirt to Norris for the final two games that season and he was shocking . What we had last year was perfect-Pope the best goal keeper I have seen play for us, and an extremely experienced and safe pair of hands in Hennessy as a back up. I also think our owners are in to cost cutting, and once we have settled down with the season starting, I can see Long, Lowton, JBG, and Peacock Farrell being loaned out or given a free transfer. I am pretty certain they are already working on this

[AGENT_CLARET]

....Norris is an even weaker link.
The goal he conceded at Shrewsbury was schoolboy.

The goal he conceded at Shrewsbury was a very good finish that all started by a bad mistake from Cullen

[ksrclaret]

I really worry about the goal keeping situation. At least when it looked like we were bringing in Muric, we thought we were getting someone with a decent amount of experience, but who could comfortably play the way Kompany wants from the back.

It now appears we'll be choosing between a goalkeeper who has, in my opinion, not proven to be good enough, and a 19 year old who has played 7 professional games in Belgium.

If we do sign this young lad, I can't see us then shelling out another £4m on Muric as well. No way we'll be spending close to £10m on goalkeepers. Best case scenario for me is we get Muric on loan and give the young lad a year.

[Darnhill Claret]

Can we please drop the persecution of Cornet for the penalty miss. There have been others in the past, there will be others to come. The missed chance against Norwich wasn’t in front of goal it was beyond the far post. It is ever so slightly behind him and bobbles up and hits him on the ankle, so it’s like a 50 pence piece header. No use going on about what might have been. Just enjoy what Maxwel brings to the team, to the squad. Enjoy his enthusiasm for scoring, his passion, his interaction with the fans, his love of the ‘money shot’. The man just loves a camera, he loves to be loved. Let’s just hope that Mr Alan Pace can see the monetary value of keeping Maxwel, a little longer, maybe till January or maybe even June and hopefully beyond.

As for the buy low, sell high policy, it works best when you buy low and sell really high. Fewer disruptions for the manager to overcome. One sale per season enabling two new investments and a slice off the debt is what we should be working towards.

I do appreciate that this season is a one-off as far as numbers are concerned, but we couldn’t and shouldn’t expect this much excitement every transfer window.

[KRBFC]

Where exactly does O'Hare, Brownhill, Twine, Bastien, Mcneil fit into a 4222? Cork is captain so assume he plays alongside Cullen. so 5 battling for 2 spots? I see further departures.

[RVclaret]

Where exactly does O'Hare, Brownhill, Twine, Bastien, Mcneil fit into a 4222? Cork is captain so assume he plays alongside Cullen. so 5 battling for 2 spots? I see further departures.

I’d imagine plenty of rotation - Cork won’t be starting every game, 46 game season. Maybe he’d be the choice against tougher opponents? Brownhill / Bastien against others? Great to have so many options.

[RicardoMontalban]

Where exactly does O'Hare, Brownhill, Twine, Bastien, Mcneil fit into a 4222? Cork is captain so assume he plays alongside Cullen. so 5 battling for 2 spots? I see further departures.

Rotation? Options from the bench?

It’s a brave new world.

[It Is What It Is]

The goal he conceded at Shrewsbury was a very good finish that all started by a bad mistake from Cullen

Yes good finish, Norris positioned himself poorly I thought.
It only takes one indecisive moment and it's in the back of the net.

[Rileybobs]

The goal he conceded at Shrewsbury was a very good finish that all started by a bad mistake from Cullen

Cullen at fault without a doubt. Can’t be dispossessed there. But the goalkeeper has to stop that. He totally misjudges the shot, doesn’t move across his line, dives too early and inevitably gets absolutely nowhere near it.

We’re not going to replace Pope, but we need to do better that what we currently have.

[ClaretTony]

Why does every transfer thread always deteriorate into this? It' really tiring.

It doesn't if posters bother to report it

[ClaretTony]

Cullen at fault without a doubt. Can’t be dispossessed there. But the goalkeeper has to stop that. He totally misjudges the shot, doesn’t move across his line, dives too early and inevitably gets absolutely nowhere near it.

We’re not going to replace Pope, but we need to do better that what we currently have.

Cullen is totally at fault. Give the ball away like that is asking for trouble whether Norris is in goal or not.

[fatboy47]

Looks like Callum Britain is on his way to Ewood...very very decent acquisition for them at RB if it happens.

[adropofclaret]

Only a step away from Eton Mess!

Let's not call him names!

It was a reference to the chant to the Jam, Eton Rifles for Eagan Riley, no name calling intended
I must be on another level

[Rileybobs]

Cullen is totally at fault. Give the ball away like that is asking for trouble whether Norris is in goal or not.

I’d say they’re both at fault. Cullen loses possession in a dangerous area, Norris flaps at a routine save. Both players should do better.

It’s only a friendly so no point making a meal of it, but neither of our keepers inspire me with any confidence whatsoever.

[AGENT_CLARET]

I’d say they’re both at fault. Cullen loses possession in a dangerous area, Norris flaps at a routine save. Both players should do better.

It’s only a friendly so no point making a meal of it, but neither of our keepers inspire me with any confidence whatsoever.

Flaps at a routine save ???? It was perfectly placed into the very top corner, not much he could do

[distortiondave]

I've only seen it from the one angle, but it wasn't a rocket into the top corner, he just kinda drifted it in. The keeper looked like he was about 5'4" and shrinking. Poor positioning.

[Rileybobs]

Flaps at a routine save ???? It was perfectly placed into the very top corner, not much he could do

You must have seen a different goal to me if you think it was in the very top corner. It was lobbed quite gently about a yard below the cross bar and inside the post. If Norris moves across his line before diving he would save it comfortably. He didn’t, he dived early and as a result got nowhere near the ball and was actually getting further away from it as the ball went past him.

Like I said, it’s a preseason friendly, no big deal, but it’s very poor goalkeeping. That is a completely routine save for Nick Pope, who let’s remember is the player we need to get as close as possible to replacing.

[RVclaret]

Norris is a shocking keeper and hopefully will be nowhere near the starting 11.

As for Coventry fans re. O’Hare, they come across as a really odd bunch.

[BurnleyFC]

That was Norris.

It wasn’t even a mistake on the ‘keeper’s part, either. Just a fantastic finish.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Norris is a shocking keeper and hopefully will be nowhere near the starting 11.

As for Coventry fans re. O’Hare, they come across as a really odd bunch.

Odd in what way?
They see him as their most creative and best player, naturally they don't want to lose him