Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

CaptJohn · Post by **CaptJohn** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 9:12 am

AGENT_CLARET wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 23, 2022 9:04 am
A quick recap on our transfer window so far for those struggling to keep up and need to know who's who on the pitch

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Many thanks. I was at Shrewsbury the other Friday and hadn't a clue who some of them were. Is there one guy missing? The Sam Bastien lookalike who started the 2nd half? It confused me and certainly confused the guy on the PA system as he lost track of who was playing

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 9:13 am

CaptJohn wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 23, 2022 9:12 am
Many thanks. I was at Shrewsbury the other Friday and hadn't a clue who some of them were. Is there one guy missing? The Sam Bastien lookalike who started the 2nd half? It confused me and certainly confused the guy on the PA system as he lost track of who was playing

No that’s Ne-Jai Tucker who plays for our under 23 side.

Pickles · Post by **Pickles** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 9:14 am

Kevwando wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 23, 2022 9:11 am
City have rejected the bid

Well that's probably more proof he ain't coming here.

Commy · Post by **Commy** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 9:19 am

They don't want to sell him but they might fancy a loan. He only has 2 Premier games, 1 European game and some cup games. He would get experience if he was loaned and played every week.

Kevwando · Post by **Kevwando** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 9:46 am

Pickles wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 23, 2022 9:14 am
Well that's probably more proof he ain't coming here.

Not sure
Romano stated Southampton are interested in a permanent move while Burnley want him on loan for the season. Decision will be made soon.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 9:58 am

City rate him quite highly so a loan suits them better, whether it's in the championship with us or at Saints is for them to decide.

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:00 am

Well with the 8 we've signed so far we only need O'Hare and a couple of strikers and we have a completely new team

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:01 am

If we sell Cornet and cannot get Delap, what about Tyrese Campbell of Stoke City. He is 22, quick and direct. Had a bad injury last year so not prolific last season,but was a talked about as an exciting striker the season before, and we may have been previously linked to him. Doubt he would be cheap-may be same price we paid for Collins, but immense sell on value

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:12 am

warksclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:01 am
If we sell Cornet and cannot get Delap, what about Tyrese Campbell of Stoke City. He is 22, quick and direct. Had a bad injury last year so not prolific last season,but was a talked about as an exciting striker the season before, and we may have been previously linked to him. Doubt he would be cheap-may be same price we paid for Collins, but immense sell on value

I’m a big fan. Natural finisher too. Was horrific after the injury last season though, so would be a major risk.

Sheff_bfc · Post by **Sheff_bfc** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:19 am

Firthy wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:00 am
Well with the 8 we've signed so far we only need O'Hare and a couple of strikers and we have a completely new team

While we're at it, let's have a new stadium too.

Gp8419 · Post by **Gp8419** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:23 am

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:12 am
I’m a big fan. Natural finisher too. Was horrific after the injury last season though, so would be a major risk.

No chance we can afford to be throwing 12-15m on a player back in the championship

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:28 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 23, 2022 9:58 am
City rate him quite highly so a loan suits them better, whether it's in the championship with us or at Saints is for them to decide.

Delap would be a major coup. I don’t like loans generally but feel he would be a massive signing if we could land it.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:30 am

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:28 am
Delap would be a major coup. I don’t like loans generally but feel he would be a massive signing if we could land it.

He's been smashing goals in for City's U23's, a loan out to the championship is the next logical step

forzagranata · Post by **forzagranata** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:36 am

Delap would have had more opportunities to start at City if he hadn't picked up injuries (quite a few of them) at exactly the moments when Pep might have turned to him.

Hedontplayforyou · Post by **Hedontplayforyou** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:41 am

Romano also stating the bid which city turned down was £16m from Saints.

If we can loan him then that would be brilliant

TickTock · Post by **TickTock** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:41 am

Dont why everyones still talking about Delap. The Athletic stated loud and clear about a week or two ago stating he isnt a target of Burnley. Southampton can bid for a permeant all they want City don't want to sell him.

Hedontplayforyou · Post by **Hedontplayforyou** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:45 am

Let’s see what happens eh.

We certainly need one striker minimum.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 11:18 am

TickTock wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:41 am
Dont why everyones still talking about Delap. The Athletic stated loud and clear about a week or two ago stating he isnt a target of Burnley. Southampton can bid for a permeant all they want City don't want to sell him.

It's not like every day is a new day in football transfers is it?

Even Dyche changed his transfer targets.

Occasionally.

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 11:47 am

I think we need a striker with a decent bit of experience, preferably in this league, ready to hit the ground running straight away. I’m sure Delap is a talented and promising young player, but I’d rather we bought someone in permanently in that position over a loan.

benstone12 · Post by **benstone12** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 11:54 am

Dwight Gayle has just gone to Stoke and he’s been given playing time assurances. Surely this could mean Tyrese is on his way out? He looks a real prospect but that injury last year, has it taken its toll?
As we are, I think we are just a pacey/in behind striker short to make a real impact this season. Ideally someone who can hit the ground running.

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:02 pm

benstone12 wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 23, 2022 11:54 am
Dwight Gayle has just gone to Stoke and he’s been given playing time assurances. Surely this could mean Tyrese is on his way out? He looks a real prospect but that injury last year, has it taken its toll?
As we are, I think we are just a pacey/in behind striker short to make a real impact this season. Ideally someone who can hit the ground running.

Or, maybe because Stoke know that Tyrese isn't over his injury, so need to share the workload with Gayle, perhaps?

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:03 pm

benstone12 wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 23, 2022 11:54 am
Dwight Gayle has just gone to Stoke and he’s been given playing time assurances. Surely this could mean Tyrese is on his way out? He looks a real prospect but that injury last year, has it taken its toll?
As we are, I think we are just a pacey/in behind striker short to make a real impact this season. Ideally someone who can hit the ground running.

A pacy striker would be great now we've got players in midfield who will create.

Tyrese Campbell would represent a big gamble though, and at best we'd be forking out 8-10m for him.

Pity Vydra picked up that injury when he did, he'd have been a great asset at this level.

Vanders1994 · Post by **Vanders1994** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:05 pm

On the back of us being linked with the metz centre half by nixon metz have just signed another one a replacement perhaps?

Tricky Trevor · Post by **Tricky Trevor** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:11 pm

benstone12 wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 23, 2022 11:54 am
Dwight Gayle has just gone to Stoke and he’s been given playing time assurances..

I wonder if the manager had a say in that? Never a good decision.

TickTock · Post by **TickTock** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:39 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 23, 2022 11:18 am
It's not like every day is a new day in football transfers is it?

Even Dyche changed his transfer targets.

Occasionally.

Yes but the clubs transfer strategy now is an algorithm compiled list edited by scouts and Kompany, one for each position, we are slowly working through each list in order of who would be best. We have a tabled bid for a CB confirmed and I was told by Nixon club has been actively pursuing strikers (not Delap). Its just not in public domain yet I am sure however said links will go public in the near future.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:53 pm

ksrclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 23, 2022 11:47 am
I think we need a striker with a decent bit of experience, preferably in this league, ready to hit the ground running straight away.

Someone like Jay Rodriguez, for example?

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 1:03 pm

Tall Paul wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:53 pm
Someone like Jay Rodriguez, for example?

Yes, both Rodriguez and Barnes give us that and are good options. If anything we need a contrast to them and a striker should be our priority.

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 1:03 pm

Tall Paul wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:53 pm
Someone like Jay Rodriguez, for example?

No. Ideally someone younger and faster than Jay to complement him.

“Decent bit of experience” doesn’t mean 30 odd.

Juan Tanamera · Post by **Juan Tanamera** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 1:28 pm

ksrclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 23, 2022 1:03 pm
No. Ideally someone younger and faster than Jay to complement him.

“Decent bit of experience” doesn’t mean 30 odd.

Why does it need to be someone faster than Jay, pace isn't the be all and end all in a striker.
Jay is a very good footballer who can be good at holding the ball and bringing others into the game.

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 1:33 pm

Juan Tanamera wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 23, 2022 1:28 pm
Why does it need to be someone faster than Jay, pace isn't the be all and end all in a striker.
Jay is a very good footballer who can be good at holding the ball and bringing others into the game.

I never said he wasn’t. Someone faster playing alongside Jay will make a great partnership, because a bit of pace up front will make us a better team. We’ll be able to stretch teams more which is important given it looks like we’ll be set up quite narrowly in midfield and up front. That’s why.

Juan Tanamera · Post by **Juan Tanamera** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 1:36 pm

ksrclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 23, 2022 1:33 pm
I never said he wasn’t. Someone faster playing alongside Jay will make a great partnership, because a bit of pace up front will make us a better team. We’ll be able to stretch teams more which is important given it looks like we’ll be set up quite narrowly in midfield and up front. That’s why.

The way I read what you said was that we need someone faster than Jay, not someone in a partnership with him.
Maybe I read it wrong.

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 1:39 pm

Juan Tanamera wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 23, 2022 1:36 pm
The way I read what you said was that we need someone faster than Jay, not someone in a partnership with him.
Maybe I read it wrong.

Yes you did - I said someone younger and faster to “complement” him.

To be clear, injury permitting, I hope and expect Jay to have a great season playing a big role.

TickTock · Post by **TickTock** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 1:40 pm

Juan Tanamera wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 23, 2022 1:28 pm
Why does it need to be someone faster than Jay, pace isn't the be all and end all in a striker.
Jay is a very good footballer who can be good at holding the ball and bringing others into the game.

We have not had a pacy bagman in the side for years and its exactly what we need especially in Kompany's system, Jay will be playing the same role as Twine what we need is somebody to play off that deep Lying Forward and hover on the shoulder of the last man with lots of Pace and acceleration.

So yes we absolutely need a pacy striker.

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 1:42 pm

City really rate delap. They wont sell him , we have a good chance with a loan, but there is also a chance he makes the city squad this year, with sterling and Jesus leaving

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 1:46 pm

ksrclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 23, 2022 1:03 pm
No. Ideally someone younger and faster than Jay to complement him.

“Decent bit of experience” doesn’t mean 30 odd.

Fair enough, I agree with that.

That wasn't what you asked for in the post I quoted though, Jay provides all of those things.

UpTheClaretsFCBK · Post by **UpTheClaretsFCBK** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 2:28 pm

It makes me cringe every time someone writes 'pacy striker' on this board.

Probably remembering the countless ones we've had down the years that were utter dross.

Ian Moore for example.

nyclaret · Post by **nyclaret** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 2:34 pm

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 23, 2022 2:28 pm
It makes me cringe every time someone writes 'pacy striker' on this board.

Probably remembering the countless ones we've had down the years that were utter dross.

Ian Moore for example.

or Ings or Andre Gray who contributed to one of our most successful periods as a club?

dandeclaret · Post by **dandeclaret** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 2:34 pm

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 23, 2022 2:28 pm
It makes me cringe every time someone writes 'pacy striker' on this board.

Probably remembering the countless ones we've had down the years that were utter dross.

Ian Moore for example.

David Johnson was a step up on Ian Moore, and Andre Gray was outstanding.

Then there was Ade who was pretty quick and did well. Ian Moore and Steve Jones less so.

Reckon Payts, Conroe, Francis and Eli were all pacy for the level they were at as well.

AshevilleNCClaret · Post by **AshevilleNCClaret** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 3:04 pm

Looks like ohare is in Coventry lineup today. This probably now slim to none change.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.covent ... 557781.amp

Ric_C · Post by **Ric_C** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 3:26 pm

Still 5 and a half weeks to go before the window shuts. A lot can change before then. Still think O'Hare might be an option at some point. Mainly as it was the club's that couldn't agree the fee. The player seemed keen.

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 5:15 pm

Ric_C wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 23, 2022 3:26 pm
Still 5 and a half weeks to go before the window shuts. A lot can change before then. Still think O'Hare might be an option at some point. Mainly as it was the club's that couldn't agree the fee. The player seemed keen.

He'd be keen, alright. He'd triple his salary.

adropofclaret · Post by **adropofclaret** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 5:48 pm

Quicknick wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 23, 2022 5:15 pm
He'd be keen, alright. He'd triple his salary.

I think this is dead due to the cost, 9-10m is alot to pay at this stage when I'd say we need to move a n other on first (cornet, Roberts, lowts or McNeil)

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 8:51 pm

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football ... exclusive/

Nixon reporting that we need to triple our 1m bid for Jordan Gabriel.

Also that Metz want 10m for Kouyate

TickTock · Post by **TickTock** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 8:52 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 23, 2022 8:51 pm
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football ... exclusive/

Nixon reporting that we need to triple our 1m bid for Jordan Gabriel

also that Kouyate is going to cost a hefty sum he defo wont be 10 million but 2.5 isnt going to get us him.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 9:16 pm

as has been reported, City only interested in letting Delap go out on loan. I suspect we will be low down on his list of choices if we are interested
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football ... delap-bid/

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 9:19 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 23, 2022 9:16 pm
as has been reported, City only interested in letting Delap go out on loan. I suspect we will be low down on his list of choices if we are interested
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football ... delap-bid/

Why low down the list?
The Man City connection could work out well for us, there are lads here he will already know, we have a vacancy for a first choice striker and we have a City legend as gaffer.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 9:21 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 23, 2022 9:19 pm
Why low down the list?
The Man City connection could work out well for us, there are lads here he will already know, we have a vacancy for a first choice striker and we have a City legend as gaffer.

Saints want him, Brighton sniffing and could try and get him on loan as part of the Cucarella deal. Another story saying Saints to go back in with a 23m offer - that's a huge chunk of money to turn down, could easily sell him with a buy back clause. I hope we are looking at other options especially if Maxwel is sold

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 9:37 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 23, 2022 9:21 pm
Saints want him, Brighton sniffing and could try and get him on loan as part of the Cucarella deal. Another story saying Saints to go back in with a 23m offer - that's a huge chunk of money to turn down, could easily sell him with a buy back clause. I hope we are looking at other options especially if Maxwel is sold

City may value him higher than £23 million though.
If he's as good as is being suggested, he could be their next Foden for example and I couldn't even begin to value him.

burnley007 · Post by **burnley007** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:29 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 23, 2022 9:37 pm
City may value him higher than £23 million though.
If he's as good as is being suggested, he could be their next Foden for example and I couldn't even begin to value him.

Foden must be £150m+

I reckon they would rather give Delap 1 season at a decent level before deciding permanently

burnley007 · Post by **burnley007** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:29 pm

Sounds like Bart might still happen