Statistically.........

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Statistically.........

Post by lakedistrictclaret » Sun Jul 24, 2022 3:29 pm

what are our chances of finishing in the top six this season?

Having a bit of time to spare while it's raining at Headingley, I've looked at how the three relegated clubs from the PL have fared the following season in the Championship in the ten seasons 11-12 to 20-21 inclusive.

Here's how the thirty teams relegated in those seasons finished the following year:-

1st 4 times
2nd once
3rd. once
4th 4 times
5th. 4 times
6th. once
7th. twice
8th once
9th. never
10th twice
11th once
12th once
13th once
14th never
15th never
16th once
17th twice
18th twice
19th never
20th never
21st never
22nd never
23rd once
24th once

Looking at these statistics, exactly half of the relegated sides finished in the top six the following season.

Without googling,

1. Who are the four clubs to have finished top the season after being relegated?
2. Who are the two clubs to have dropped straight through to League One?



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Post by Red Fox Rocks Socks » Sun Jul 24, 2022 3:36 pm

Us and Fulham for going up

Bradford straight down?

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Post by gawthorpe_view » Sun Jul 24, 2022 3:38 pm

Norwich up also?

Sunderland down?

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Post by Claretforever » Sun Jul 24, 2022 3:39 pm

Top
Burnley
Fulham
Norwich
Newcastle

Bottom
Sunderland
Portsmouth

They’re guesses but I must be close?

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Post by claretburns » Sun Jul 24, 2022 3:40 pm

I would say Wolves and Sunderland were the relegated teams?

Finishing top, us, Fulham and then presume Norwich did it at some point, Newcastle as well?

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Post by lakedistrictclaret » Sun Jul 24, 2022 3:41 pm

Claretforever has the four sides to finish top , and one of the relegated clubs (Sunderland)

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Post by AwayClaret » Sun Jul 24, 2022 3:41 pm

Didn't man city and sheff wed get relegated from the prem then from the championship in consecutive seasons? Probably wrong just summat going off in the old head.

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Post by lakedistrictclaret » Sun Jul 24, 2022 3:43 pm

And claretburns has the other relegated side, Wolves in 2012-13

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Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jul 24, 2022 3:48 pm

Down - definitely Wolves and Sunderland. Down from Prem in 2011/12 & 2016/17 respectively and straight through.

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Post by Matt_Whalley » Sun Jul 24, 2022 7:52 pm

Interesting to note that exactly half finished in the top six.

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Post by clarethomer » Mon Jul 25, 2022 2:13 pm

Saw this on twitter which I haven't spent too long analysing the methodology on how they have arrived at this but for the benefit of discussion thought it was worth sharing. Says the guy is a data scientist so hopefully this has been done through data rather than affinity to a club
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https://twitter.com/AurelNz/status/1551 ... r3TeKRb9Bw

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