Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

[eastcoastclaret]

Being reported it's 15m

[RVclaret]

It would be a shame to lose Dwight, he’d do very well in this league, however it does add up with what I was told that he’s been pushing for a move, and Kompany knew.

[nyclaret]

I like Dwight and would much prefer him to stay. But wasn't it zero goals and one assist last season (and plenty of below par performances)? What would you think if we were linked with a player for £20m+ after a season like that?

I agree, his goal contributions have not been good enough but you have to consider the current market value of players. We sold Collins for 20mil and he'd only played 19 PL games.

[Top Claret]

If they want to go, then let them go, naturally as long as we receive decent fees for both to allow VK to reinvest in the squad.

That's life after relegation I'm afraid tough as it maybe to see our squad broken up.

One possible advantage of a lot of last seasons squad moving on is we might not suffer a relegation hangover as many clubs can do.

Have got to disagree with the way things are going with our major clear out and overall including New management we are going to suffer the biggest relegation hangover ever

[Pearcey]

I think Pace might be savvy with a sell on clause on McNeil. He’ll shine in an attacking side. Still hope Everton get relegated though.

[ksrclaret]

Sell anyone and everyone of any value appears to be the policy.

Incredible.

[UpTheClaretsFCBK]

Would you let McNeil go if you knew you was going to get Ohare and Benson in return? Hypothetically.

I don't see us getting O'hare though. Benson seems like he's alright, but nowhere near Cornet.

[nyclaret]

I think Pace might be savvy with a sell on clause on McNeil. He’ll shine in an attacking side. Still hope Everton get relegated though.

I think it's an awful move for him. I really think they'll be in trouble again this season.

[JohnDearyMe]

Being reported it's 15m

Incredibly depressing if that's true. Collins, Pope & McNeil will have all been acquired for knock down prices

[CFS]

Wait for the meltdown when people hear where Roberts is off to.

[Pearcey]

Sell anyone and everyone of any value appears to be the policy.

Incredible.

Or sell players that don’t want to play for the club. Depends how you want to twist it.

[Quickenthetempo]

If both these go, Pace will go down as Burnley's worst owner.
Relegation
Academy downgraded
Any player worth a carrot sold
Club loaded with more debt than it's ever been in it's entire history combined.

[ksrclaret]

Or sell players that don’t want to play for the club. Depends how you want to twist it.

Not twisting anything. The fact is we're selling anyone and everyone of any value.

[claretonthecoast1882]

If they want to go, then let them go, naturally as long as we receive decent fees for both to allow VK to reinvest in the squad.

That's life after relegation I'm afraid tough as it maybe to see our squad broken up.

One possible advantage of a lot of last seasons squad moving on is we might not suffer a relegation hangover as many clubs can do.

What ever fee is agreed it is about 1/100 we will be told it is way too cheap.

Having been in the Prem for so many seasons you only need an ounce of intelligence to work out the better players we have will be wanted and more than likely move on.

[Spijed]

If both these go, Pace will go down as Burnley's worst owner.
Relegation
Academy downgraded
Any player worth a carrot sold
Club loaded with more debt than it's ever been in it's entire history combined.

If we get relegated we'll almost certainly have to go into administration with the burden of debt.

[tiger76]

Have got to disagree with the way things are going with our major clear out and overall including New management we are going to suffer the biggest relegation hangover ever

We'll find out soon I guess, but any player who wants out isn't worth keeping in my view.

Roll on Friday when the action starts for real then we'll get more of an idea how our season might unfold.

[Spijed]

What ever fee is agreed it is about 1/100 we will be told it is way too cheap.

Having been in the Prem for so many seasons you only need an ounce of intelligence to work out the better players we have will be wanted and more than likely move on.

But we seem to be selling then for peanuts.

Keep getting told the market is depressed yet Richarlison went to Spurs for £60 million ~(£50 million + £10 million in add ons).

[Lancasterclaret]

Hopeful and negotiations ongoing is far from guaranteed Lancaster. I’m not saying it’s not happening but it’s not done yet, far from it

RV Claret said exactly the same thing when I posted the link from Percy about Collins

He doesn't tweet unless its done I'm afraid

[taio]

Can Everton afford McNeil? 15-20m? Not sure they can unless they sell Gordon.

Do you still think that the club must hold out for a fee of up to £25m? And what will you think of the decision if McNeil is sold for say £15m?

[ksrclaret]

I've been pretty supportive of what the club has been trying to do so far this summer, but it's all starting to smell a bit whiffy now.

[PremierLeagueClass]

I know I’m in a minority of 1 but I would be happy to get a few for McNeil and reinvest it. Maybe he will come good but a player with so little impact for a whole season is not a premier league quality player. If we get anything around 15m it would be a good deal.

I don’t think you’re in the minority there. I’d love to see him go and prove me wrong but imo, he’s far too limited in several areas.

[whiffa]

I've been pretty supportive of what the club has been trying to do so far this summer, but it's all starting to smell a bit whiffy now.

Sorry that was me.

[claretonthecoast1882]

But we seem to be selling then for peanuts.

Keep getting told the market is depressed yet Richarlison went to Spurs for £60 million ~(£50 million + £10 million in add ons).

Richarlison the 25 yr old Brazil international with 36 caps along with 43 Prem goals in 135 games

McNeil the 22 yr old ex England under 21 with 7 Prem goals in 134 games

[agreenwood]

RV Claret said exactly the same thing when I posted the link from Percy about Collins

He doesn't tweet unless its done I'm afraid

Surely you mean he doesn’t say something is done unless it’s done? In this case he’s not saying it’s done. He’s saying Everton are in talks and “hopeful” of agreeing a deal. So unless he’s in the habit of reporting that deals are less advanced than they actually are, then McNeill isn’t “done” yet.

[fatboy47]

Sell anyone and everyone of any value appears to be the policy.

It clearly is.

And from the bland acceptance in evidence here, you'd have to suspect that no club that's ever been relegated from the Prem has ever been able to hang on to any of its best players.

Some evidence of actions taken by the club (even if taken in vain) to forestall this unseemly rush for the exit door would deflect much of the current cynicism...but I personally suspect there's been no such action.

[Spijed]

Richarlison the 25 yr old Brazil international with 36 caps along with 43 Prem goals in 135 games

McNeil the 22 yr old ex England under 21 with 7 Prem goals in 134 games

So are you saying £10-£15 million is a good deal then?

[Lancasterclaret]

Surely you mean he doesn’t say something is done unless it’s done? In this case he’s not saying it’s done. He’s saying Everton are in talks and “hopeful” of agreeing a deal. So unless he’s in the habit of reporting that deals are less advanced than they actually are, then McNeill isn’t “done” yet.

Okay, the Collins deal was confirmed the very next day

Its about as good a source as you can get on twitter unfortunately, certainly in terms of accuracy

[18MD82]

Would you let McNeil go if you knew you was going to get Ohare and Benson in return? Hypothetically.

Absolutely.

O’hare shown his talent already in the league, benson looks a tidy player and the type we’ve been missing.

McNeil was poor last season with next to no contributions, and has never experienced the amount of games or the physicality of the Championship, however I do feel a another year would do his confidence and ability the world of good

[Colburn_Claret]

I know I’m in a minority of 1 but I would be happy to get a few for McNeil and reinvest it. Maybe he will come good but a player with so little impact for a whole season is not a premier league quality player. If we get anything around 15m it would be a good deal.

I wouldn't expect more than that for him, at his best he's worth twice that, but he isn't at his best often enough.
I hoped a season in the Championship, under VK, and he might get back to where he was, but nobody knows.

[Claret Alfie]

I imagine if we do try and go back in for O’Hare, that the price will have gone up.

[claretcarrot93]

So our first game we are going to have 4 central midfielders, with two playing on the wing. Great

[RVclaret]

Do you still think that the club must hold out for a fee of up to £25m? And what will you think of the decision if McNeil is sold for say £15m?

Yes really wanted him to stay, my logic behind that, as we discussed, was his value tripling by one good season in the Champ, which I’m convinced he would have done.

Since then though, I had heard he’s been looking to move and Kompany knew a sale was inevitable. I’d now hope somewhere between 15-20m.

[claretonthecoast1882]

So are you saying £10-£15 million is a good deal then?

You compared him to Richarlison I tried to highlight the difference between the 2 players.

Where has this 10m come from, why not ask if it think 5m - 10m is a good deal if you are just going to decide on a fee. If Dwight has no relegation clause, or an agreement in the result of relegation he can move on or just basically the player want to play in the Prem then we get the best fee we can. Do I think we should keep any player that wants to be elsewhere ? No, in the same way I would never work somewhere I didn't want to.

You sound surprised that some of our players want to be in the Prem while having a decent % of fans who think the Prem is everything in football.

[ksrclaret]

It clearly is.

And from the bland acceptance in evidence here, you'd have to suspect that no club that's ever been relegated from the Prem has ever been able to hang on to any of its best players.

Some evidence of actions taken by the club (even if taken in vain) to forestall this unseemly rush for the exit door would deflect much of the current cynicism...but I personally suspect there's been no such action.

Absolutely.

[Vegas Claret]

McNeil will get slaughtered at Everton if he doesn't do well in the first few games. Very much a confidence player

[quoonbeatz]

Can see mcneil really losing his way at Everton with their fans.

[burnley007]

This is getting ridiculous. I expected to lose Weghorst, Tarks and Cornet. But this max exodus is really making me nervous for our chances this season. I just don't see that we are strong enough for the Championship, we look lightweight and inexperienced.

If we lose both Dwight and Cornet this week I'll be deeply concerned.

[RVclaret]

McNeil will get slaughtered at Everton if he doesn't do well in the first few games. Very much a confidence player

Really poor move for him. The most toxic fan base around. They will be on his back quite quickly given his quite languid style.

[quoonbeatz]

Ha, snap.

[arise_sir_charge]

I’m disappointed to see McNeil leave but the only possibility of keeping any of our stars was that nobody came in for them. Pope, Collins, McNeil, Cornet, all likely to go if there was Premier League interest.

That doesn’t matter if the chairman is Alan Pace, Mike Garlick or Barry Kilby.

I’m actually more surprised that Everton want McNeil at £15m and to be honest. I rate him but he had a shocker last season.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Can see mcneil really losing his way at Everton with their fans.

Agreed, should be the last club a player like him is considering going to. Possibly his only option for playing in the Prem though.

[nyclaret]

McNeil could be back playing for Dyche if Lampard doesn't get off to a good start

[JR1882]

If we loose McNeil and Cornet I think that takes us from Top 6 to upper mid table.

I’m really excited for this season but loose those 2 and it will be a full on transition season imo.

[TommyPicks]

It clearly is.

And from the bland acceptance in evidence here, you'd have to suspect that no club that's ever been relegated from the Prem has ever been able to hang on to any of its best players.

Some evidence of actions taken by the club (even if taken in vain) to forestall this unseemly rush for the exit door would deflect much of the current cynicism...but I personally suspect there's been no such action.

Agree with this. There’s been nothing from the club, and the usual mantra from relegated clubs of “we do not need to sell” or “X player is categorically not for sale.” Clearly with the debt that needs financing some player exits were inevitable. There is a theme emerging however, and it appears selling a player as opposed to doing everything we can to retain them is seen as the preference.

[Rileybobs]

Can’t believe some fans are still defending this transfer policy, well I can when the same ones seemingly defend the club for losing it’s academy status. Sure the sale of McNeil and Cornet will no doubt release some funds for replacements - but don’t kid yourselves that they will be anywhere near the same quality as those who are leaving.

This limp acceptance that those players ‘don’t want to play in the Championship so what can we do’ is pathetic. I can’t remember seeing an exodus like this, and certainly not one that’s ended well.

[Newcastleclaret93]

I've been pretty supportive of what the club has been trying to do so far this summer, but it's all starting to smell a bit whiffy now.

KSR this can’t be you. Your always positive.

[ksrclaret]

If we loose McNeil and Cornet I think that takes us from Top 6 to upper mid table.

I’m really excited for this season but loose those 2 and it will be a full on transition season imo.

Well I think losing those two now is almost certain. As Lancaster said, Percy doesn't tweet anything about a transfer situation unless it's nailed on, so that's him gone. The fact Cornet hasn't played a minute of pre season suggests we're wrapping him in cotton wool to ensure we don't lose the prospect of his sale money.

Not good at all. Need decent replacements.

[ksrclaret]

KSR this can’t be you. Your always positive.

Think you're mixing me up with RVClaret. I've tried to be positive regarding our dealings this summer, and I do think we've done some good work, but it's tipped over now.

[RVclaret]

Can’t believe some fans are still defending this transfer policy, well I can when the same ones seemingly defend the club for losing it’s academy status. Sure the sale of McNeil and Cornet will no doubt release some funds for replacements - but don’t kid yourselves that they will be anywhere near the same quality as those who are leaving.

This limp acceptance that those players ‘don’t want to play in the Championship so what can we do’ is pathetic. I can’t remember seeing an exodus like this, and certainly not one that’s ended well.

You don't need to look so far back. Here is Bournemouth from 2 seasons ago. Look at that incoming spend too!

[claretonthecoast1882]

Can’t believe some fans are still defending this transfer policy, well I can when the same ones seemingly defend the club for losing it’s academy status. Sure the sale of McNeil and Cornet will no doubt release some funds for replacements - but don’t kid yourselves that they will be anywhere near the same quality as those who are leaving.

This limp acceptance that those players ‘don’t want to play in the Championship so what can we do’ is pathetic. I can’t remember seeing an exodus like this, and certainly not one that’s ended well.

Would you keep players who want to move on ?
The players that we have sold do you expect to replace for like quality wise ? Kompany said recently on Collins he was irreplaceable quality wise in this division.

If the answer is yes to either then you were always going to be surprised. If the answer is yes to both then that is just mad