Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

[KRBFC]

Fulham's owner is worth over 7 billion, ridiculous example

Watford have run the buy cheap sell them for more money model for years but he won't see that because of his agenda

Mcneil was here before ALK arrived, we're about to sell him for £15m-20m and the team/club isn't going to benefit, ALK are.

[jedi_master]

If of interest to anyone, I have had a check on the Antwerp forum to get the thoughts on Benson.

They think the price is too cheap (with the 1.5m offer being ‘insulting’). They rate him very highly - but say that he was poor before the season just gone. They think he will go as the club will take £3m and that he would be a stand out player for a league like the Championship. They believe there is alternative firm interest from Marseille and Lyon.

[ksrclaret]

Dyche always looked media trained from the first day he came in to be honest. Thought Kompany's press conference a few weeks ago was so positive but we are clearly not where he hoped we'd be at this point of time, or that's how it's come across. My comment wasn't meant as a criticism of the manager though in any way.

Your comment was a very fair one, but unless it's 100% positive it's fashionable to jump on it.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Fulham's owner is worth over 7 billion, ridiculous example

Watford have run the buy cheap sell them for more money model for years but he won't see that because of his agenda

He does like Watford's business model of firing as many managers as they can in a season

[Vegas Claret]

Sure. Being told that players might have to be sold for the right offer at an interview is one thing. The reality of watching all of your best players leave is another thing.

I'm sure Kompany, just like us, is disappointed to see another one head for the exit door. I'm sure he'll expect decent replacements to come in. That will be the acid test now.

if he was told that our players will be sold at the right money and said players are then sold at the right money it can hardly be a shock. It certainly isn't a shock to many of us on here so I doubt it will be to him tbh. As you say, all down to the replacements

[Newcastleclaret93]

Who did Fulham have that you would genuinely say ‘jeez a PL club should snap him up?’

Which of their players were proven PL performers? Same with Norwich? They sold Buendia didn’t they?

From Fulham, Anguissa was one who showed he could cut it and was sold to Napoli.

And that’s before I mention Fulham have billionaire owners but also suffered a 90m loss the season before, they aren’t a great example.

Buendia was sold on promotion

[Quickenthetempo]

Because if he wasn't, then he's not done his due diligence

He's been promised money to spend, but clearly also told that it will come from existing player sales

He's building a brand new team, and not many managers will complain at that

I'm trying to think of a single club (not in administration) who have brought a new manager in and sold/released their best 7 players.
So I'm not sure the manager will be happy?

[Vegas Claret]

With the slating McNeil's had in recent times, I'm surprised nobody's offered to drive him there for that amount

If he does go, who's the player to next be targeted for having one foot?
Just so I know in advance

have you seen the price of fuel these days ?

[RVclaret]

If of interest to anyone, I have had a check on the Antwerp forum to get the thoughts on Benson.

They think the price is too cheap (with the 1.5m offer being ‘insulting’). They rate him very highly - but say that he was poor before the season just gone. They think he will go as the club will take £3m and that he would be a stand out player for a league like the Championship. They believe there is alternative firm interest from Marseille and Lyon.

Thanks for this - certainly a better and more reliable review than KRBFC’s ‘he’s shite and cheap’ scouting report anyway.

[KRBFC]

He does like Watford's business model of firing as many managers as they can in a season

No I don't? It's just worked at several clubs including Chelsea.

[claretonthecoast1882]

If of interest to anyone, I have had a check on the Antwerp forum to get the thoughts on Benson.

They think the price is too cheap (with the 1.5m offer being ‘insulting’). They rate him very highly - but say that he was poor before the season just gone. They think he will go as the club will take £3m and that he would be a stand out player for a league like the Championship. They believe there is alternative firm interest from Marseille and Lyon.

Surely not Marseille and Lyon when our expert has announced he is s***e

[Newcastleclaret93]

Thanks for this - certainly a better and more reliable review than KRBFC’s ‘he’s shite and cheap’ scouting report anyway.

I think the price he goes for will be a good indication.

Didn’t they sign him for 3m? Letting him go for that would suggest KRBFC could be right

[RVclaret]

I think the price he goes for will be a good indication.

Didn’t they sign him for 3m? Letting him go for that would suggest KRBFC could be right

Erm not really. He’s got a year left on his contract. We just bought Cullen for 3m because of this. Connor Roberts was 2.5m because of this.

[ksrclaret]

if he was told that our players will be sold at the right money and said players are then sold at the right money it can hardly be a shock. It certainly isn't a shock to many of us on here so I doubt it will be to him tbh. As you say, all down to the replacements

I just wonder whether he expected this volume of outgoings, that's all. He may like the opportunity to refashion the squad, but he's losing some pretty good players here with replacements not likely to be as good.*

*Edit - immediately.

[Robbo1882]

I do like this page, rumoured a player sale and some users go into melt down and Pace is at fault. We sign a player and we get this is great real exciting times well done Mr Pace. What ever happens UTC

[Lancasterclaret]

Certainly giving the impression that he's fully aware of the players leaving and the project in this press conference

[jedi_master]

I think the price he goes for will be a good indication.

Didn’t they sign him for 3m? Letting him go for that would suggest KRBFC could be right

They think £3m is too cheap and that it should be £5m plus, but their owners will take £3m as he will not sign a new contract. I only repeat what I read!

[claretonthecoast1882]

Certainly giving the impression that he's fully aware of the players leaving and the project in this press conference

Wait you mean the manager who has said since the day he arrived players will leave is understanding that players will leave ?

[Paul Waine]

How long have you known from your source that he's looking to move? It's just that not too long ago you were saying that club should be doing everything to keep him. And I can't imagine, based on your unwavering support of the owner, that you'd have been saying that if you knew his sale was imminent.

Weren't there rumours of Dwight McNeill wanting to move a season ago, or maybe it was even 2 seasons ago? I forget whether it was reported that his Dad was the one quoted saying he recommended he stay another season...

Maybe there are some posts on here from last season (or season before) that says this?

[RVclaret]

Certainly giving the impression that he's fully aware of the players leaving and the project in this press conference

Absolutely - he is very realistic

[Spiral]

At the risk of sounding like a delusional happy clapper, is it possible we're reading a little bit too much into the post-Newcastle interview? It was bloody hot that day, and Kompany looked about exactly how I'd look if I was stood out in the baking hot sun for a few hours without any shade, i.e. totally zapped.

[Lancasterclaret]

Wait you mean the manager who has said since the day he arrived players will leave is understanding that players will leave ?

Thats the one!

[Newcastleclaret93]

Kompanys interview today has been very interesting so far.

He has definitely been set out dampen expectations there

[Longsider]

I've sensed the positivity draining from him since he did that first press conference. He looked, using your words, very much bewildered and bereft whe he spoke after the Newcastle games.

If true this is a huge concern. I don't see as to why a pre season friendly loss would generate such an outcome from the manager though. His previous managerial role saw a tough journey which he came through. Time will tell I suppose but this post really worries me.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Kompanys interview today has been very interesting so far.

He has definitely been set out dampen expectations there

You and kbrfc should go for a drink together

[RVclaret]

Kompanys interview today has been very interesting so far.

He has definitely been set out dampen expectations there

Or he’s just being realistic for the task at hand?

[ksrclaret]

Certainly giving the impression that he's fully aware of the players leaving and the project in this press conference

He does come across a very likeable guy. I hope he's given some more help to better shape the squad.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Or he’s just being realistic for the task at hand?

Potentially but using terms like I am not expecting a miracle and we are having to shop in for cheaper more inexperienced players is definitely different to previous interviews

[Lancasterclaret]

Pretty much confirmed that we have to pay an outstanding payment on the loan after relegation

Good that its in the open I suppose

[Lancasterclaret]

If true this is a huge concern. I don't see as to why a pre season friendly loss would generate such an outcome from the manager though. His previous managerial role saw a tough journey which he came through. Time will tell I suppose but this post really worries me.

I'd be watching his press conference right now to be honest

Its certainly not backing up anything that has been said in that post

[ksrclaret]

Says we need to repay some of the debt and the money generated from the sales isn't enough to replace the outgoings with quality players. For that reason, he can't put a target on this coming season as we'll need to bring players in and work with them long term now.

[NickBFC]

You would be a fool to come out in the press saying promotion is the aim and we expect to go up. Certainly downplaying things, but how much of that is covering his arse/not raising expectations or pressure too much on the players is anyone's guess? He speaks well, seems driven and honest. It's very disappointing to lose more players but it is what it is. Most of us were crying out for more exciting football and younger players - we have that, let's embrace it and get behind the team.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Or he’s just being realistic for the task at hand?

What people "hear" is going to be dependant on their outlook let's be honest.
Those with negative outlooks will take as much negative as they can.

As you say he's being very realistic all the way through it

[Newcastleclaret93]

Says we need to repay some of the debt and the money generated from the sales isn't enough to replace the outgoings with quality players. For that reason, he can't put a target on this coming season as we'll need to bring players in and work with them long term now.

I think that has certainly changed from the interviews we have had previously

[KRBFC]

Says we need to repay some of the debt and the money generated from the sales isn't enough to replace the outgoings with quality players.

Why do BFC need to sell players to pay ALK debts? remind me, why are we in debt? Selling players to pay for ALK shares in the club? it's laughable

[claretonthecoast1882]

It is almost like he has a level of understanding and maturity about him with his responses.

Doesn't look like he is down, regretting coming or shocked at the business. In fact it is a bit like he knows what is going on.

[Newcastleclaret93]

It is almost like he has a level of understanding and maturity about him with his responses.

Doesn't look like he is down, regretting coming or shocked at the business. In fact it is a bit like he knows what is going on.

100% I think it’s us as the fans that have been getting told new stuff here.

[Vegas Claret]

I just wonder whether he expected this volume of outgoings, that's all. He may like the opportunity to refashion the squad, but he's losing some pretty good players here with replacements not likely to be as good.*

*Edit - immediately.

having just watched his press conference he knew exactly what was going to happen

[Vegas Claret]

Why do BFC need to sell players to pay ALK debts? remind me, why are we in debt? Selling players to pay for ALK shares in the club? it's laughable

It's business and life.

[Paul Waine]

Why do BFC need to sell players to pay ALK debts? remind me, why are we in debt? Selling players to pay for ALK shares in the club? it's laughable

NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION.

[claretonthecoast1882]

100% I think it’s us as the fans that have been getting told new stuff here.

The only thing he said in the whole of the conference fans shouldn't have known is that Twine & THB are fit for Friday

[ksrclaret]

having just watched his press conference he knew exactly what was going to happen

Yes agreed. I'm reassured that Kompany is fine with the idea of massively refashioning his squad, and accepting of the situation we find ourselves in with regards to the club's finances after that press conference. That was a really nice, open, and honest interview he gave there. I like him a lot.

I think it was fine to wonder if that was still the case, though.

[RVclaret]

I think that has certainly changed from the interviews we have had previously

Not really - he’s never once made any statements about promotion or anything of the sort

[RVclaret]

It is almost like he has a level of understanding and maturity about him with his responses.

Doesn't look like he is down, regretting coming or shocked at the business. In fact it is a bit like he knows what is going on.

Yep in fact He repeatedly said ‘this is what I signed up for’

[Spijed]

Says we need to repay some of the debt and the money generated from the sales isn't enough to replace the outgoings with quality players. For that reason, he can't put a target on this coming season as we'll need to bring players in and work with them long term now.

If any players we've signed have a good season they'll be sold so in all likelihood we'll have to start rebuilding again at the start of next season.

And so on....

[RVclaret]

Back on rumours

https://twitter.com/sachatavolieri/stat ... 83Otn4_8iw

Second bid rejected for Benson

[ksrclaret]

If any players we've signed have a good season they'll be sold so in all likelihood we'll have to start rebuilding again at the start of next season.

And so on....

That appears to be the model.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Not really - he’s never once made any statements about promotion or anything of the sort

We have gone from promotion is the target and Europe in 5 years. To Saying he can’t commit

[Zom Zom]

Graeme Bailey says £20m deal for Dwight McNeil is set to be accepted.

[beddie]

No wonder Dyche had a fall out with Pace. I really believe that whilst change and new blood are required what’s currently going on is too big of a change. Hope I’m wrong of course but I worry about the lack of the backbone in the squad.