ARTICLE: Dwight’s right for Everton

[Stayingup]

Great bit of business I don't know why people are moaning? I thought the whole point of bringing young players through was to sell them at a profit.

Yes but not at 22 when we are supposed to br building a young team.

Like relegation its due to fiscal matters on two fronts.

[Jakubclaret]

Same old players whilst here are worshipped as heroes & can’t do no wrong the day that said player leaves they wasn’t really that good & the offer was far too good to turn down, the extreme can literally lurch from yesterday to tomorrow with some people at the drop of a hat & a radical opinion expressed can go the opposite direction without as much as an explanation behind any logical sound reasoning.

[clarethomer]

20-25m I would say would be fair as a base. Lots of Prem experience. Only 22. Attacking MF. English. Not in the last year of his contract

For crying out loud we bought Collins last year for 15 - he was a defender and unproven at the top level.

It's like we rolled over as soon as the cash was flashed. Look at Stephens and Brighton - they point bla k refused to deal despite him being keen (they probably raised his wage as well though in the end).

Im not sure how the numbers are calculated but perhaps the numbers agreed just work better for what we need. I.E. we got more up front, its paid more quickly - got a higher sell on etc.

Also not convinced the market is quite as bouyant as it was pre-covid so whether fees are a little more subdued at the moment - who knows?

[Big Vinny K]

The board, along with VT, can sign off all the transfers they want and I hope they keep doing it. Personally, I don't hold with the view that they are slashing and burning for personal gain. I still believe that it's VKs opinion that players should be allowed to leave if they get a Prem offer, and not, as CT believes, because we have to. I don't know, you don't know and CT certainly doesn't know, and that's why I stated that CT shouldn't, as the forum owner, broadcast his own most probably,, less than fully informed opinion. Rant away.

It’s a bit more than conjecture don’t you think ?
It’s a long time since I have seen a press conference by a Burnley manager (or any manager tbh) where he explicitly tells the world that are having to sell players to repay debt

Did you miss yesterdays Press Conference ?

Yes opinions can differ as to the long term strategy of the new owners and the reasons they got involved in our club but other things are facts and Burnley football club is currently in a position where it HAS to sell players to meet its financial commitments that are a direct result of the takeover structure

[Stayingup]

Its a good job we've already sold 14,000 season tickets. Particularly after the defending in the friendlies against Neecastle added to this clear out of our only genuine Premier League players. Still needs must when the club had been shafted.

[Woonderbah]

If the sale of Dwight pays for Twine and O'Hare then I'd say it's decent business.. time will tell

[Stayingup]

It’s a bit more than conjecture don’t you think ?
It’s a long time since I have seen a press conference by a Burnley manager (or any manager tbh) where he explicitly tells the world that are having to sell players to repay debt

Did you miss yesterdays Press Conference ?

Yes opinions can differ as to the long term strategy of the new owners and the reasons they got involved in our club but other things are facts and Burnley football club is currently in a position where it HAS to sell players to meet its financial commitments that are a direct result of the takeover structure

The takeover structure being that the buyers had no.money?

Like you I am windering why they wanted to own the club

[Boss Hogg]

The one player I was hoping we could keep if Cornet was to be sold. McNeil is a very good player and I enjoyed watching him. We need some proper quality as a replacement not another unknown.

[Nonayforever]

Extremely sad to see Dwight leave. There are some players that come and go , there are some players where it just doesn't work out. Dwight could have become a Burnley legend.
A lot of posters saying his form dipped - if they think he was bad wait until they see the new lot !
I can't imagine Kompany being happy with the amount of quality going out and the standard of players coming in. He may say he knew but I would imagine the truth being slightly different.
I will also make the prediction that Pace will sell up when the parachute payments finish.

[Granny WeatherWax]

Extremely sad to see Dwight leave. There are some players that come and go , there are some players where it just doesn't work out. Dwight could have become a Burnley legend.
A lot of posters saying his form dipped - if they think he was bad wait until they see the new lot !
I can't imagine Kompany being happy with the amount of quality going out and the standard of players coming in. He may say he knew but I would imagine the truth being slightly different.
I will also make the prediction that Pace will sell up when the parachute payments finish.

Jesus wept. Log off for a bit mate.

[Paul Waine]

Good luck, Dwight McNeil at Everton. Thanks for all the good times at Burnley.

Another reason for me to try and get a ticket for Brentford v Everton last w/end in August. Hope all the ex-Burnley players are playing that day.

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[fidelcastro]

Extremely sad to see Dwight leave. There are some players that come and go , there are some players where it just doesn't work out. Dwight could have become a Burnley legend.
A lot of posters saying his form dipped - if they think he was bad wait until they see the new lot !
I can't imagine Kompany being happy with the amount of quality going out and the standard of players coming in. He may say he knew but I would imagine the truth being slightly different.
I will also make the prediction that Pace will sell up when the parachute payments finish.

If that's not a wind-up, then it should be!

DA couldn't better that one.

[PremierLeagueClass]

Hope he goes on to do well with Everton. I will watch with great interest. I would have liked to see him in the championship but if the reported fee is accurate, we would have been fools to turn that down.

[dandeclaret]

Where’s Den Perry when you need him….. we need a Photoshop of the remaining players and a couple of exercise bikes in a lock up, With Alan Pace and a host of premier league chairman stood outside trading insults as they bid for the whole job lot…. Accompanied by some flashing lights and a cartoon advertising the sale.

[Bin Ont Turf]

When I looked yesterday the Everton fans were well pleased they were getting Dwight, not.

[BennyD]

It’s a bit more than conjecture don’t you think ?
It’s a long time since I have seen a press conference by a Burnley manager (or any manager tbh) where he explicitly tells the world that are having to sell players to repay debt

Did you miss yesterdays Press Conference ?

Yes opinions can differ as to the long term strategy of the new owners and the reasons they got involved in our club but other things are facts and Burnley football club is currently in a position where it HAS to sell players to meet its financial commitments that are a direct result of the takeover structure

I appreciate that we had to sell some players to balance the books, and I've already said that. Pope, Collins, Cornet (if/when he goes) would have done that nicely and massively reduced overheads. McNeil didn't have to be sold but he has been because he wanted to go and play for 'a big club with a big manager'. If Max decides he doesn't want to go, are we going to keep him or boot him out? I suspect we'll keep him and if we do I reckon everyone, including Mr Pace and the board, will be delighted. I know I will.

[fatboy47]

Where’s Den Perry when you need him….. we need a Photoshop of the remaining players and a couple of exercise bikes in a lock up, With Alan Pace and a host of premier league chairman stood outside trading insults as they bid for the whole job lot…. Accompanied by some flashing lights and a cartoon advertising the (fire) sale.

Fixed it.

[Pickles]

Got the number 7 shirt at Everton.

[BabylonClaret]

Got the number 7 shirt at Everton.

That can't be right - he's **** and a bench warmer for the Toffees at best?

[dandeclaret]

Good luck, Dwight McNeil at Everton. Thanks for all the good times at Burnley.

Another reason for me to try and get a ticket for Brentford v Everton last w/end in August. Hope all the ex-Burnley players are playing that day.

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Exiting times Paul.

[forzagranata]

Got the number 7 shirt at Everton.

If he does only half as well as another former young Burnley talent who wore that shirt at Everton.....

[MT03ALG]

We should have kept McNeil and built a team around him. We are doomed.

[Papabendi]

Anyone expect McNeil to start the season in Everton's XI? I'd be amazed. He couldn't wait to get it done but he is likely to be a bench warmer on a higher wage than he could have expected, actually trying to prove himself at a lower level. That is likely beguiling in the short term, remains to be seen what happens in the long term. Best of luck to him. If he proves me wrong I'll be first on here congratulating, unlike some other know it all characters we all know and generally despise on here.

[Burnley1989]

Extremely sad to see Dwight leave. There are some players that come and go , there are some players where it just doesn't work out. Dwight could have become a Burnley legend.
A lot of posters saying his form dipped - if they think he was bad wait until they see the new lot !
I can't imagine Kompany being happy with the amount of quality going out and the standard of players coming in. He may say he knew but I would imagine the truth being slightly different.
I will also make the prediction that Pace will sell up when the parachute payments finish.

Ahhh you mean the new lot you’ve never watched play together or likely at all?

[beddie]

Be interesting when Dyche takes over at Everton in Dec/Jan.

[Nonayforever]

Ahhh you mean the new lot you’ve never watched play together or likely at all?

I went to Shrewsbury !

[LaLigaClaret]

Did everyone see the first words spoken by him after signing for Everton. Absolutely hilarious. He's got a ot to learn and if he doesn't up his game by 100% he will be left languishing on the bench until ditched at a loss. Gone and now completely forgotten.

[Rileybobs]

Good luck, Dwight McNeil at Everton. Thanks for all the good times at Burnley.

Another reason for me to try and get a ticket for Brentford v Everton last w/end in August. Hope all the ex-Burnley players are playing that day.

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Sounds like you’ll have a hoot. Enjoy.

[Rileybobs]

Sorry to see Dwight go. I’ve been critical of him the past 12-18 months but I think we will be a lot weaker without him, particularly in the Championship where I think he would have really stood out.

£20m is a decent price, and as a couple of others have intimated, this loss in isolation isn’t a big deal - but it’s yet another of our quality players departing. And we’ve now practically relinquished any advantage we had over the rest of the division.

That said, I really don’t think this will be a good move for Dwight, other than financially. I expect he’ll spend a large part of the season on the bench and I wouldn’t be surprised if he slides into relative obscurity. Hope to be proven wrong for his sake, but not Everton’s who have turned into a really dislikable outfit.

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Message from McNeil

[IanMcL]

So, by you intimation, are the board are h3ll-bent on financial self-destruction? Wasn't it the board who brought in Cornet and Weghoust, sacked SD and very nearly brought off a miracle? There is, IMO, far too much negativity as to the intentions of Mr Pace and co and I, for one, am happy to give them the credit they, at face value, deserve.

You mean either panicked or spotted an opportunity?