Muric (the new beast)

CHEWBACCA · Post by **CHEWBACCA** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 10:41 am

What a beast of a unit!
I know he didn't have to do much but so refreshing to see our keeper look so calm & cool with the ball,almost Ederson esque

Let's hope he can keep the ball out of the net .

CaptJohn · Post by **CaptJohn** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 10:55 am

Just needs not to take out his own players when he punches

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 11:12 am

CaptJohn wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 30, 2022 10:55 am
Just needs not to take out his own players when he punches

No issues with that, when the ball comes in the box like it did it is 100% the keepers ball and you clear through any player in front of you, rather him be decisive like that than worried about hitting his own player and staying back on his line.

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 11:16 am

Very impressed with his calmness and distribution. Man City-esque

Zlatan · Post by **Zlatan** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 11:19 am

He had so little to do during the game. I am worried about his actual goal keeping ability though, only thing he needed to do was that punch that took out Taylor - and it was to a dangerous area and not cleared properly for my liking.

He is cool with the ball at his feet though

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 11:39 am

CaptJohn wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 30, 2022 10:55 am
Just needs not to take out his own players when he punches

I’d rather two players went for the ball than two players leave it for each other…. I get the point tho.

1968claret · Post by **1968claret** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 11:41 am

Zlatan wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 30, 2022 11:19 am
He had so little to do during the game. I am worried about his actual goal keeping ability though, only thing he needed to do was that punch that took out Taylor - and it was to a dangerous area and not cleared properly for my liking.

He is cool with the ball at his feet though

I thought it was an excellent punch clear. No messing, straight out to it and got good clearance distance

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 11:48 am

Thought he looked brilliant last night.

So weird seeing us with a keeper confident in possession.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 11:57 am

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 30, 2022 11:48 am
Thought he looked brilliant last night.

So weird seeing us with a keeper confident in possession.

Agree. Here is the location of all his passes last night.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:00 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 30, 2022 11:57 am
Agree. Here is the location of all his passes last night.

Thought he was our new left back at times!!

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:00 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 30, 2022 11:57 am
Agree. Here is the location of all his passes last night.

Is that just passes completed? Does it include the times Muric kicked long up field? When it was kicked long I think every one was won by Huddersfield.

Tricky Trevor · Post by **Tricky Trevor** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:04 pm

His distribution wasn’t as good as expected although a massive improvement on Nick Pope. His calmness was a major plus.
Not sure about the punch but he did get it into a vacant area so relieved the danger.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:04 pm

Paul Waine wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:00 pm
Is that just passes completed? Does it include the times Muric kicked long up field? When it was kicked long I think every one was won by Huddersfield.

It is just the location of his passes, not completed no.

Kevwando · Post by **Kevwando** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:06 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 30, 2022 11:57 am
Agree. Here is the location of all his passes last night.

That can’t be right, he definitely hit a long ball to Barnes in the first half.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:07 pm

Kevwando wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:06 pm
That can’t be right, he definitely hit a long ball to Barnes in the first half.

Im not sure what you mean by it can’t be right? Its both halves combined into the one graphic.

ChrisG · Post by **ChrisG** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:12 pm

I interpreted it as his position on the pitch when he made the pass, not where it landed. Think it is demonstrating his role as a sweeper keeper. Or a Libero if you like.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:12 pm

ChrisG wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:12 pm
I interpreted it as his position on the pitch when he made the pass, not where it landed. Think it is demonstrating his role as a sweeper keeper. Or a Libero if you like.

Yes

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:12 pm

Was close to being my man of the match. It was like having twelve players on the pitch. Whenever we were struggling under pressure they just popped it back to him and we retained possession.

He was absolutely fantastic

Kevwando · Post by **Kevwando** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:12 pm

The graphic shows all his passes are in our own half. He hit a ball to a Barnes in the Huddersfield half.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:13 pm

Kevwando wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:12 pm
The graphic shows all his passes are in our own half. He hit a ball to a Barnes in the Huddersfield half.

Its the location from where he made the pass

Kevwando · Post by **Kevwando** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:15 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:13 pm
Its the location from where he made the pass

Stalbansclaret · Post by **Stalbansclaret** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:20 pm

I kept shouting "Get rid FFS !"

Hard to teach an old dog new tricks !!

scamander · Post by **scamander** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:26 pm

I think any manager of note would have scouted him on his distribution last night and realised that he will gift possession away. There were a couple heart-in-mouth moments and I expect that we will concede based on this. If Kompany has accepted this then it isn't too much of a problem but it does mean we're going to have to score more to give ourselves that insurance.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:28 pm

Has he demanded a testimonial yet

Pickles · Post by **Pickles** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:32 pm

Thought he was excellent. Huge, confident, composed. Fairly sure he even made a pass with the outside of his foot at one point. Looking forward to seeing more from him.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:36 pm

Kind of goes to poo poo the old ‘I prefer my goalkeeper to be able to make saves’ argument. When you dominate a game and your keeper doesn’t need to make saves then having a ball-playing one is like playing with an extra man.

Great debut. We’ll no doubt concede a few throughout the course of the season by trying to be a bit too cute, but if it allows us to dominate the opposition the way we did last night then it’s a price worth paying.

mybloodisclaret · Post by **mybloodisclaret** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:40 pm

Wonder what those Forest fans made of him who kept saying he was poor? Absolute class last night.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 1:10 pm

At one point I the second half he was on the ball outside his area with at least two defenders behind him

That’ll take some getting use to

beeholeclaret · Post by **beeholeclaret** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 2:11 pm

wilks_bfc wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 30, 2022 1:10 pm
At one point I the second half he was on the ball outside his area with at least two defenders behind him

That’ll take some getting use to

I think there was one time when he was on the ball near the centre circle and there were two of their forwards behind him as well!

fanzone · Post by **fanzone** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 6:12 pm

His short passing were very good, long passing were poor and gave the ball away every time

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 6:31 pm

Zlatan wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 30, 2022 11:19 am
He had so little to do during the game. I am worried about his actual goal keeping ability though, only thing he needed to do was that punch that took out Taylor - and it was to a dangerous area and not cleared properly for my liking.

He is cool with the ball at his feet though

From what I've seen of him on tape, Zlatan, he is a really good shot-stopper. Rather Pope-esque.

St Austell Claret · Post by **St Austell Claret** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 7:06 pm

Adds a completely new dynamic to the lads game. Never seen a composed keeper play balls out to our defense or midfield like that before. Top keep who I hope never gets done for his distribution. A great adrimission to a great squad. UTC

Nonayforever · Post by **Nonayforever** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 9:33 pm

Obviously can play with his feet and remain calm but there was a cross into the box sometime in the second half when he was in two minds about collecting the ball and just let it go. Pope would have gathered it with ease.

Grandpa Claret · Post by **Grandpa Claret** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 9:38 pm

Nonayforever wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 30, 2022 9:33 pm
Obviously can play with his feet and remain calm but there was a cross into the box sometime in the second half when he was in two minds about collecting the ball and just let it go. Pope would have gathered it with ease.

Im surprised this has only just been mentioned. I thought exactly the same at the time. It was a free kick I think

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 9:42 pm

I am looking forward to seeing him play on Saturday ... hope it does not disappoint

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 10:44 pm

big test for him next week, Luton are a huge side and have very good delivery so he will be needed to command his area for certain

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 10:57 pm

Nonayforever wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 30, 2022 9:33 pm
Obviously can play with his feet and remain calm but there was a cross into the box sometime in the second half when he was in two minds about collecting the ball and just let it go. Pope would have gathered it with ease.

But he got it right.... goal kick.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 11:20 pm

For a goalkeeper, he can mostly pass the ball.

We'll see if he is a goalkeeper, later, when there is a shot.

Inchy · Post by **Inchy** » Sun Jul 31, 2022 7:13 am

His passing and what that adds is brilliant. I suspect he is susceptible to the odd clanger.

People need to remember he will have weaknesses, which is why he plays for us and not someone better. We have been incredibly lucky over the past few years that we have had two amazing keepers who made so few mistakes

Grandpa Claret · Post by **Grandpa Claret** » Sun Jul 31, 2022 7:31 am

IanMcL wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 30, 2022 11:20 pm
For a goalkeeper, he can mostly pass the ball.

We'll see if he is a goalkeeper, later, when there is a shot.

Passing the ball in this set up is more beneficial than being a great keeper…. Pope is probably miles better goalkeeper but muric is better for this team with this style over the season. So don’t worry if he lets a few in that pope would have saved. Think about the seasons value .

CharlieinNewMexico · Post by **CharlieinNewMexico** » Sun Jul 31, 2022 8:06 am

Grandpa Claret wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 31, 2022 7:31 am
Passing the ball in this set up is more beneficial than being a great keeper…. Pope is probably miles better goalkeeper but muric is better for this team with this style over the season. So don’t worry if he lets a few in that pope would have saved. Think about the seasons value .

Great point.

It’s all pros and cons

If the pros of being better at one thing overpower an average ability at another, I’m all for it.

northeastclaret · Post by **northeastclaret** » Sun Jul 31, 2022 8:12 am

Inchy wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 31, 2022 7:13 am
His passing and what that adds is brilliant. I suspect he is susceptible to the odd clanger.

People need to remember he will have weaknesses, which is why he plays for us and not someone better. We have been incredibly lucky over the past few years that we have had two amazing keepers who made so few mistakes

Interestingly it was the Huddersfield keeper that made a bad clanger playing out from the back , which presented a great chance.

Tinribs · Post by **Tinribs** » Sun Jul 31, 2022 8:56 am

Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:04 pm
His distribution wasn’t as good as expected although a massive improvement on Nick Pope. His calmness was a major plus.
Not sure about the punch but he did get it into a vacant area so relieved the danger.

You are joking,right? Thought his calmness in the ball and passing was fantastic for a guy who signed last week and not even took part in pre-season.
Not going to go overboard because he had 1 cross to deal with and no shots but signs are good

Tricky Trevor · Post by **Tricky Trevor** » Sun Jul 31, 2022 9:42 am

Tinribs wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 31, 2022 8:56 am
You are joking,right? Thought his calmness in the ball and passing was fantastic for a guy who signed last week and not even took part in pre-season.
Not going to go overboard because he had 1 cross to deal with and no shots but signs are good

You need to watch it again. Some fine passes but a few really dodgy ones that against a better side we would have suffered for. He might have been calm but they were poor choices. Passing to players with a marker on them, that is for a higher level of player than we possess.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sun Jul 31, 2022 9:48 am

Tinribs wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 31, 2022 8:56 am
You are joking,right? Thought his calmness in the ball and passing was fantastic for a guy who signed last week and not even took part in pre-season.
Not going to go overboard because he had 1 cross to deal with and no shots but signs are good

There were definitely a few dodgy moments with his kicking and it was commented on by several people sat around me. No big deal and I'm sure they'll get ironed out.

helmclaret · Post by **helmclaret** » Sun Jul 31, 2022 10:49 am

Takes a lot of balls, clarity of mind and composure to play like Muric.

Give the guy a break it was the first 90 mins for a brand new team and set up.

They’ll be mistakes no doubt but I admire people who play the game like Muric.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sun Jul 31, 2022 10:54 am

Rewatched the advanced highlights just now, that big chance Costelloe had from Maatsen’s cross was started by Muric. It was an incredible composed pass between two Huddersfield players (who were squeezing up) and into Cullen’s feet who then spun and the break / space was suddenly on. Looking forward to seeing even better distribution when he’s more up to speed with teammates, mental to think he’s only been here a week!

Xianclaret · Post by **Xianclaret** » Sun Jul 31, 2022 11:03 am

I’m sure over the season we will hear “Pope would have saved that” but we also know that VK’s style will mean that playing it out from the back will be the norm and initial observations are that his distribution skills look much better than Popes! Horses for course me thinks.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sun Jul 31, 2022 3:56 pm

Grandpa Claret wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 31, 2022 7:31 am
Passing the ball in this set up is more beneficial than being a great keeper…. Pope is probably miles better goalkeeper but muric is better for this team with this style over the season. So don’t worry if he lets a few in that pope would have saved. Think about the seasons value .

I'll reserve judgement on that!

He has the size, so let's hope. Having said that, no. 1 is still up for grabs! One in and one out?

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Sun Jul 31, 2022 4:11 pm

His feet ,distribution and coolness were high class . He certainly did things with his feet that NP can only dream off ( that’s not the point though ) Playing a “total passing out” game does carry it’s risks and anyone even slightly aware of coaching that style will know that the keeper is encouraged to take calculated risks “ it’s the players job to receive under pressure “

For a fan that leads to the odd hairy moments and a couple of slightly misplaced/off kilter passes a game . The chip he did on the goal byline was pure poetry .