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Post by ClaretTony » Tue Aug 02, 2022 5:12 pm

Final game of pre-season in 1997 and it didn't go well

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Post by Rowls » Tue Aug 02, 2022 5:39 pm

Waddle's sides were a pushover.

We lacked every basic quality to win a game of football for much of the season.

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Post by gawthorpe_view » Tue Aug 02, 2022 5:45 pm

I got the feeling City were told to take their foot off the gas after the third goal so as not to embarrass their hosts.

Wasn't Bradbury dubbed the South Coast Shearer?

I saw Eddie Large walking up Brunshaw Road after the match.

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Post by ClaretTony » Tue Aug 02, 2022 5:51 pm

gawthorpe_view wrote:
Tue Aug 02, 2022 5:45 pm
I got the feeling City were told to take their foot off the gas after the third goal so as not to embarrass their hosts.

Wasn't Bradbury dubbed the South Coast Shearer?

I saw Eddie Large walking up Brunshaw Road after the match.
He was in the army when his sergeant recommended him to Portsmouth. Also took over as Bournemouth manager when Howe came to Burnley.

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Tue Aug 02, 2022 5:59 pm

Quite a big crowd for a pre season game at the Turf. I don't remember many bigger?

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Post by gawthorpe_view » Tue Aug 02, 2022 6:03 pm

Plenty there from City.
CFS was pretty much full if I recall correctly.

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Post by bfcjg » Tue Aug 02, 2022 6:05 pm

Rowls wrote:
Tue Aug 02, 2022 5:39 pm
Waddle's sides were a pushover.

We lacked every basic quality to win a game of football for much of the season.
Spot on.

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Post by ralph8 » Wed Aug 03, 2022 8:18 am

It was a stifling hot day- Wellington too hot and sweaty went to the Cricket club for some fresh air. Good turn out if Clarets due to the Waddle factor- still thinking he would take us back to the top, especially after a spate of quick signings on arrival.
City brought a good following as usual- max 2,000 who were very vocal throughout the game. Not surprising really given the ease of their win.
It was probably the first sign of how the season was going to pan out with the Waddle management team.

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Aug 03, 2022 8:26 am

Kinkladze was such a good player to watch

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Post by jrgbfc » Wed Aug 03, 2022 8:30 am

Didn't City end up getting relegated that season, and Bradbury turned out to be a disaster? We made them look brilliant that afternoon :lol:

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Aug 03, 2022 8:32 am

jrgbfc wrote:
Wed Aug 03, 2022 8:30 am
Didn't City end up getting relegated that season, and Bradbury turned out to be a disaster? We made them look brilliant that afternoon :lol:
Yeah they did, I think it was also the season that both Crewe and Stockport beat them as well as finishing above them

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Post by ClaretTony » Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:06 am

jrgbfc wrote:
Wed Aug 03, 2022 8:30 am
Didn't City end up getting relegated that season, and Bradbury turned out to be a disaster? We made them look brilliant that afternoon :lol:
claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Wed Aug 03, 2022 8:32 am
Yeah they did, I think it was also the season that both Crewe and Stockport beat them as well as finishing above them
Hard to believe with that squad but they did go down with Stoke and Reading while Stockport finished 8th, Crewe 11th and Bury 17th. Frank Clark was replaced by Joe Royle as manager in Feb that season. Players such as Kinkladze and Rösler left at the end of the season. They went on to play league games against Macclesfield in the following season.

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Post by dandeclaret » Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:07 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Aug 02, 2022 5:12 pm
Final game of pre-season in 1997 and it didn't go well

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I mean we've signed some amazing players, and they've smashed us. I'm off to the bookies to back both teams to win their leagues.

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Post by dandeclaret » Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:08 am

There was some story that they called Bradbury No R's - or something like that, cos if you took the R's out of his name he became Lee Badbuy

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Post by ClaretTony » Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:19 am

dandeclaret wrote:
Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:08 am
There was some story that they called Bradbury No R's - or something like that, cos if you took the R's out of his name he became Lee Badbuy
They did - always known as Badbuy at City - wish I'd remembered that for the article.

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Post by burnmark » Wed Aug 03, 2022 11:15 am

I remember this game being on the infamous ‘Live TV’ channel on NYNEX cable TV. I’d been playing cricket for Burnley 3rds somewhere and came back to the club and watched the remaining minutes on the TV.

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Post by Fretters » Wed Aug 03, 2022 1:44 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:06 am
Hard to believe with that squad but they did go down with Stoke and Reading while Stockport finished 8th, Crewe 11th and Bury 17th. Frank Clark was replaced by Joe Royle as manager in Feb that season. Players such as Kinkladze and Rösler left at the end of the season. They went on to play league games against Macclesfield in the following season.
And us - 2-2 away and 0-6 at home :(

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Post by AlargeClaret » Wed Aug 03, 2022 3:44 pm

gawthorpe_view wrote:
Tue Aug 02, 2022 5:45 pm
I got the feeling City were told to take their foot off the gas after the third goal so as not to embarrass their hosts.

Wasn't Bradbury dubbed the South Coast Shearer?

I saw Eddie Large walking up Brunshaw Road after the match.
He was certainly universally known as “ Lee Bad-buy” by Citeh fans . I think he ended up at Bournemouth

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Post by tiger76 » Wed Aug 03, 2022 4:38 pm

That game should have signalled all wasn't well at TM, little did we know just how bad our fortunes would become as the weeks progressed.

It must be incredible for younger fans to believe Man City played in the 3rd tier relatively recently, but indeed they did, and they only just squeezed through the play-offs by the skin of their teeth.

However as CT alludes to in his article even in those days it was the haves and have nots regarding both clubs financially.

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Post by ClaretTony » Wed Aug 03, 2022 4:43 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:
Wed Aug 03, 2022 3:44 pm
He was certainly universally known as “ Lee Bad-buy” by Citeh fans . I think he ended up at Bournemouth
He played for another nine clubs after City and finished at Bournemouth. His last game for them was Eddie Howe's last as manager in his first spell after which Bradbury became manager.

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Post by hoskinsgoalatswansea » Wed Aug 03, 2022 4:45 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:06 am
Hard to believe with that squad but they did go down with Stoke and Reading while Stockport finished 8th, Crewe 11th and Bury 17th. Frank Clark was replaced by Joe Royle as manager in Feb that season. Players such as Kinkladze and Rösler left at the end of the season. They went on to play league games against Macclesfield in the following season.
Lost 1-0 at Macclesfield that season I think.

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Post by ClaretTony » Wed Aug 03, 2022 5:09 pm

hoskinsgoalatswansea wrote:
Wed Aug 03, 2022 4:45 pm
Lost 1-0 at Macclesfield that season I think.
Not wishing to spoil a good story but they beat Macc 2-0 at home and beat them 1-0 away. Shaun Goater and Gareth Taylor scored at Maine Road and Goater again at Moss Rose.

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Post by distortiondave » Wed Aug 03, 2022 6:09 pm

I thought this was referring to the 1-6 debacle at home in 2010, and was puzzled as to why it was worthy of an article in August 2022, but it turns out being well beaten inside the first 15 minutes at home to Man City isn't that uncommon!

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Post by Herts Clarets » Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:08 pm

gawthorpe_view wrote:
Tue Aug 02, 2022 5:45 pm
I got the feeling City were told to take their foot off the gas after the third goal so as not to embarrass their hosts.

Wasn't Bradbury dubbed the South Coast Shearer?

I saw Eddie Large walking up Brunshaw Road after the match.
We played City in a pre season a couple of years before this. My bar was very quiet when in walked Eddie Large. There were only the 2 of us in there for a good half hour and I had a real good chat with him, mostly about football, City, Burnley links. He didn't know we signed Dennis Tueart, who I also saw take 3 penalties in a 0-0 in 1976. I found him to be a genuinely nice bloke, no airs and graces. The only time he did a bit was when Malcolm the accountant walked in who wore large glasses and was very slim, so of course Eddie said steps back in amazement, its Supersonic.

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Post by ClaretTony » Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:09 pm

distortiondave wrote:
Wed Aug 03, 2022 6:09 pm
I thought this was referring to the 1-6 debacle at home in 2010, and was puzzled as to why it was worthy of an article in August 2022, but it turns out being well beaten inside the first 15 minutes at home to Man City isn't that uncommon!
It's worthy of an article as part of the new feature - 25 years ago today

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Post by distortiondave » Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:17 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:09 pm
It's worthy of an article as part of the new feature - 25 years ago today
Of course, I meant more like why would you write an article of the 1-6 home defeat under Laws in (march?) 2010 in August 2022, which you haven't, but I thought that's what the headline was referring to, because it's the first 'early Manchester City onslaught' that came to mind.

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Post by ClaretTony » Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:18 pm

distortiondave wrote:
Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:17 pm
Of course, I meant more like why would you write an article of the 1-6 home defeat under Laws in (march?) 2010 in August 2022, which you haven't, but I thought that's what the headline was referring to, because it's the first 'early Manchester City onslaught' that came to mind.
With you now - and then there was the 6-0 defeat under Stan too in 1998/99

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Post by distortiondave » Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:24 pm

The Stan one was awful - It was funny because as the 6th goal went in my dad got up to leave, which never happened before (or since), so I followed him, and we just stood on the landing of one of the bob lord stairs still watching the game. Seemed pointless to 14 year old me.
I forget which came first, City 6 or Bob Taylor 5, but they seemed to be in the same week (City midweek?) and then I think we hammered Preston 3-0 on Sky?

Some of that is bound to be at least half true.

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Post by ClaretTony » Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:25 pm

distortiondave wrote:
Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:24 pm
The Stan one was awful - It was funny because as the 6th goal went in my dad got up to leave, which never happened before (or since), so I followed him, and we just stood on the landing of one of the bob lord stairs still watching the game. Seemed pointless to 14 year old me.
I forget which came first, City 6 or Bob Taylor 5, but they seemed to be in the same week (City midweek?) and then I think we hammered Preston 3-0 on Sky?

Some of that is bound to be at least half true.
Bob Taylor 5 came first. They were actually ten days apart but we didn't have a game between them.
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Post by Bordeauxclaret » Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:27 pm

distortiondave wrote:
Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:24 pm
The Stan one was awful - It was funny because as the 6th goal went in my dad got up to leave, which never happened before (or since), so I followed him, and we just stood on the landing of one of the bob lord stairs still watching the game. Seemed pointless to 14 year old me.
I forget which came first, City 6 or Bob Taylor 5, but they seemed to be in the same week (City midweek?) and then I think we hammered Preston 3-0 on Sky?

Some of that is bound to be at least half true.
Bit of a gap between the two hammerings, we were due to play Wigan away but was called off I think.

We lost 1-0 to Preston just after.

It was two weeks later against Macclesfield on a Sunday when things looked doomed but we turned the season around after that.
Or during that I should have said.
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Post by fidelcastro » Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:30 pm

distortiondave wrote:
Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:24 pm
The Stan one was awful - It was funny because as the 6th goal went in my dad got up to leave, which never happened before (or since), so I followed him, and we just stood on the landing of one of the bob lord stairs still watching the game. Seemed pointless to 14 year old me.
I forget which came first, City 6 or Bob Taylor 5, but they seemed to be in the same week (City midweek?) and then I think we hammered Preston 3-0 on Sky?

Some of that is bound to be at least half true.
We lost 1-0 to Preston shortly after. Didn't a certain Kurt Nogan score a worldy?

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Post by distortiondave » Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:30 pm

Maybe we hammered Preston 3-0 after being done over by Blackburn and Bolton in the early 2000's.
It definitely happened. I'm almost certain that I'm 99% positive that I think it happened, at least.

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Post by Bordeauxclaret » Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:31 pm

Aye was after the Rovers April Fools debacle.
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Post by ClaretTony » Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:31 pm

distortiondave wrote:
Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:30 pm
Maybe we hammered Preston 3-0 after being done over by Blackburn and Bolton in the early 2000's.
It definitely happened. I'm almost certain that I'm 99% positive that I think it happened, at least.
We beat Preston 3-0 at home on the Friday after the Sunday when things didn't go to plan at Ewood.

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Post by distortiondave » Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:32 pm

Didn't go to plan is somewhat of an understatement.

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Post by ClaretTony » Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:49 pm

distortiondave wrote:
Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:32 pm
Didn't go to plan is somewhat of an understatement.
I refuse to mention the score
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Post by burnmark » Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:03 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:18 pm
With you now - and then there was the 6-0 defeat under Stan too in 1998/99
Was there a 5-0 hammering in a league cup game at Maine Road in 1999 also?

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Post by ClaretTony » Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:21 am

burnmark wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:03 am
Was there a 5-0 hammering in a league cup game at Maine Road in 1999 also?
There was - and for us older ones, I was there in 1968 when we lost 7-0.

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Post by Targetman » Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:33 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:21 am
There was - and for us older ones, I was there in 1968 when we lost 7-0.
I was also there that day! Didn't City miss a penalty as well?

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Post by ClaretTony » Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:42 am

Targetman wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:33 am
I was also there that day! Didn't City miss a penalty as well?
I'm not sure about that but it was another disastrous away day - we'd conceded 7 at Spurs too and there was a 6 and a couple of 5s that season.

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Post by LAM » Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:21 am

Enjoying these trips down memory lane even if they aren’t the most pleasant.

Richard Huxford seemed to feature a lot in this pre-season but don’t recall him playing for us in the league?
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Post by ClaretTony » Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:29 am

LAM wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:21 am
Enjoying these trips down memory lane even if they aren’t the most pleasant.

Richard Huxford seemed to feature a lot in this pre-season but don’t recall him playing for us in the league?
Huxford was Heath's replacement for Parkinson - think it's fair to say he didn't have a long Burnley career.

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