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Too close for comfort …

Post by SmudgetheClaret » Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:05 pm

Something needs to change in the CF the lashers were throwing coins and everything they could from the start of the game ! So when your literally two arms lengths apart it’s gonna get a bit spicy and I’m sorry our stewards were clueless today ! I got hit on the head with a 50p and it stung and if it had been my eye it could of done damage , Now I’m not saying our fans didn’t play their part I’m simply saying create a bigger gap and most of the silly stuff stops 😎

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Re: Too close for comfort …

Post by Milltown1882 » Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:06 pm

At least Blackburn isn’t going to be a bubble game…
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Re: Too close for comfort …

Post by Beagle » Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:10 pm

Seemed a ridiculously small amount of stewarding first half. Then at half time about 50 more turned up. Where'd they been for the past 45 minutes?

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Re: Too close for comfort …

Post by TheFamilyCat » Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:11 pm

SmudgetheClaret wrote:
Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:05 pm
Something needs to change in the CF the lashers were throwing coins and everything they could from the start of the game ! So when your literally two arms lengths apart it’s gonna get a bit spicy and I’m sorry our stewards were clueless today ! I got hit on the head with a 50p and it stung and if it had been my eye it could of done damage , Now I’m not saying our fans didn’t play their part I’m simply saying create a bigger gap and most of the silly stuff stops 😎
Stewards can only do so much. Needs police in there of things are that bad.

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Re: Too close for comfort …

Post by Jellybean » Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:13 pm

Stewards who I guess are on minimum wage should not have to separate moronic dipsticks who would rather watch the opposition fans than the game. Pathetic from our idiot fans in there, as usual.
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Re: Too close for comfort …

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:13 pm

Asking for trouble with the current set up as too many people can’t behave properly.

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Re: Too close for comfort …

Post by SmudgetheClaret » Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:32 pm

Jellybean wrote:
Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:13 pm
Stewards who I guess are on minimum wage should not have to separate moronic dipsticks who would rather watch the opposition fans than the game. Pathetic from our idiot fans in there, as usual.
No I didn’t mean the young minimum wage lads who to fair show great bravery at times I’m talking about those in charge the guy with the long beard was shaking hands with their biggest morons instead of saying any more pal and your out !!!

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Re: Too close for comfort …

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:33 pm

Looked like a free for all first half. Don’t blame stewards having to be in middle of that.

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Re: Too close for comfort …

Post by jrgbfc » Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:35 pm

Anyone with half a brain can see the no man's land needs to be bigger. Although I'm guessing they've sold season tickets in that section now, so not easy to sort out.

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Re: Too close for comfort …

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sat Aug 20, 2022 10:05 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:35 pm
Anyone with half a brain can see the no man's land needs to be bigger. Although I'm guessing they've sold season tickets in that section now, so not easy to sort out.
Sell less away tickets and put some better segregation?
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Re: Too close for comfort …

Post by dsr » Sat Aug 20, 2022 10:08 pm

What amazes me is that they can't get cameras good enough to spot the criminals. Get a first rate set of cameras, good enough to pick out an object being thrown; take some pictures; identify the perpetrators and give them all bans from football.

Obviously some of them will be too stupid (or doped up) to stop, but plenty more will realise the game's not worth the candle and will stop.
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Re: Too close for comfort …

Post by dougcollins » Sat Aug 20, 2022 10:10 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Sat Aug 20, 2022 10:05 pm
Sell less away tickets and put some better segregation?
Schoolboy error.

It's like we've never had a derby game before.

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Re: Too close for comfort …

Post by ArthurShelby » Sat Aug 20, 2022 10:12 pm

dsr wrote:
Sat Aug 20, 2022 10:08 pm
What amazes me is that they can't get cameras good enough to spot the criminals. Get a first rate set of cameras, good enough to pick out an object being thrown; take some pictures; identify the perpetrators and give them all bans from football.

Obviously some of them will be too stupid (or doped up) to stop, but plenty more will realise the game's not worth the candle and will stop.
They have the best most modern camera system you can get in there, they can zoom in on anyone they want and get a good picture, I know because I know the company that fitted it at the beginning of last season.

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Re: Too close for comfort …

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Sat Aug 20, 2022 10:15 pm

Where did the netting go from the old Longside?

Find it, dust it off, job sorted.

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Re: Too close for comfort …

Post by dsr » Sat Aug 20, 2022 10:17 pm

ArthurShelby wrote:
Sat Aug 20, 2022 10:12 pm
They have the best most modern camera system you can get in there, they can zoom in on anyone they want and get a good picture, I know because I know the company that fitted it at the beginning of last season.
So why don't they use it? They don't need to go in and arrest the thrower on the spot. They know where he sits, they know who has bought that ticket, they have their picture - they can be found after the event.

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Re: Too close for comfort …

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sat Aug 20, 2022 10:18 pm

dsr wrote:
Sat Aug 20, 2022 10:08 pm
What amazes me is that they can't get cameras good enough to spot the criminals. Get a first rate set of cameras, good enough to pick out an object being thrown; take some pictures; identify the perpetrators and give them all bans from football.

Obviously some of them will be too stupid (or doped up) to stop, but plenty more will realise the game's not worth the candle and will stop.
Not going to help with away fans this season is it.

Plus they already have the cameras.

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Re: Too close for comfort …

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sat Aug 20, 2022 10:20 pm

Throwing is so 80s I remember our keepers getting pelted v Oxford at the old Manor ground

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Re: Too close for comfort …

Post by Zlatan » Sat Aug 20, 2022 11:14 pm

dsr wrote:
Sat Aug 20, 2022 10:17 pm
So why don't they use it? They don't need to go in and arrest the thrower on the spot. They know where he sits, they know who has bought that ticket, they have their picture - they can be found after the event.
It appears they did use it today. After half time a group of senior stewards came to escort one of our fans out of the stadium, not sure what the issue was exactly, but he had been standing on the fence for a lot of the first half. The annoying thing for me was there were a large number of fans from both sides being permitted to congregate is the same area and hurl abuse back and forth and not one of the stewards wanted to address this at all. It then became pies; pints; hot dogs; and then parts of seats being thrown from the Blackpool fans (I got hit by a seat back) - all of which could have been sorted with disciplined stewarding from the start.

Really not doing anyone any favours, fans that is. Come the Blackburn game I do fear there will be real trouble and people will get seriously hurt. I don’t want it to be me or my kids either.

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Re: Too close for comfort …

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Aug 20, 2022 11:20 pm

you'd have to have rocks in your head to cause trouble inside a ground nowadays, camera's everywhere. Knock Knock mother *******

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Re: Too close for comfort …

Post by Zlatan » Sat Aug 20, 2022 11:23 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sat Aug 20, 2022 11:20 pm
you'd have to have rocks in your head to cause trouble inside a ground nowadays, camera's everywhere. Knock Knock mother *******
I’d like to think the powers that he would be reviewing the footage then, there are at least 20 of our fans who deserve a stadium ban for their behaviour today just in my section alone.

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Re: Too close for comfort …

Post by colne-claret » Sat Aug 20, 2022 11:39 pm

I hate this modern culture around ‘football hooligans’. Young lads about these days all in their stone island and their cp company thinking they are all hard men. Walk back in to town today was one of the worst I’ve ever experienced. Just groups of fans scuffling with each other but it never actually felt like they wanted to fight. Just seems to be a case of hurling abuse at each other and then waiting to be held back or separated by police. It’s all for appearances and it ruins a lot of other peoples experiences. Couple of old chaps on sticks nearly getting knocked over today getting caught up in it all outside 110 club.

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Re: Too close for comfort …

Post by Zlatan » Sat Aug 20, 2022 11:48 pm

colne-claret wrote:
Sat Aug 20, 2022 11:39 pm
I hate this modern culture around ‘football hooligans’. Young lads about these days all in their stone island and their cp company thinking they are all hard men.
There was one lad in front of me today persistently standing on his seat (which incidentally blocked my view of the game) so he could spend most of the game acting hard to the away fans - reality is he was a 14/15 year old chubby knob who wouldn’t fight his way out of a wet paper bag. When I suggested he sit down and watch the game he started swearing at me until his mate suggested tha wasn’t a good idea. He still persisted being a prat though.

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Re: Too close for comfort …

Post by NRC » Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:24 am

It wasn’t the same lad in the faux cream-colored safari jacket that I accused of being a knuckle scraper, was it?

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Re: Too close for comfort …

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Aug 21, 2022 1:05 am

Zlatan wrote:
Sat Aug 20, 2022 11:23 pm
I’d like to think the powers that he would be reviewing the footage then, there are at least 20 of our fans who deserve a stadium ban for their behaviour today just in my section alone.
Carry on liking it ain't going to happen for a number of reasons.

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Re: Too close for comfort …

Post by fanzone » Sun Aug 21, 2022 1:06 am

It's a bit of banter ffs, leave them to it

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Re: Too close for comfort …

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Aug 21, 2022 1:11 am

Completely impractical picking everybody apart & zooming in & analysing all the footage & building convincing cases when most of it's hormonal running amok goading.

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Re: Too close for comfort …

Post by Burnleyareback2 » Sun Aug 21, 2022 2:23 am

As I said on another post: from the BL it all started friendly until we scored, then the retarded people in the CF kept charging towards the stewards to show them various hand gestures.
Pretty embarrassing to be honest

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Re: Too close for comfort …

Post by Zlatan » Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:11 am

fanzone wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 1:06 am
It's a bit of banter ffs, leave them to it
You in there? It’s not banter when people get hurt. Idiotic behaviour fuelled by substances
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Re: Too close for comfort …

Post by burnmark » Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:04 am

I noticed from The Bob Lord that a smoke bomb was thrown into the away end after we scored the second. Just no need at all.

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Post by bumba » Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:29 am

Strange you think Burnley fans threw an orange smoke bomb in to the away end.
The away fans threw flares in to the home end before kick off as well as e cigs and a lot of objects that can cause a lot of damage throughout the game.
Why is it always our fans fault? Blackpool fans kicked it all off from minute 1

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Re: Too close for comfort …

Post by Zlatan » Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:38 am

I’ve been thinking about ways to reduce the antagonistic behaviour in the CFS, and for me a good option would be to have safe standing to either side of the stand and seated area behind the goal - and enforce it. A seated crowd is easier to steward and it would keep the “hooligans” from both clubs at opposite ends of the stand.

As far as Blackpool fans starting it, not sure what you saw, but I saw youngsters from our club throwing stuff at them when we scored, it’s just unacceptable.

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Re: Too close for comfort …

Post by burnmark » Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:39 am

bumba wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:29 am
Strange you think Burnley fans threw an orange smoke bomb in to the away end.
The away fans threw flares in to the home end before kick off as well as e cigs and a lot of objects that can cause a lot of damage throughout the game.
Why is it always our fans fault? Blackpool fans kicked it all off from minute 1
The one I saw was definitely a claret/red colour and released after we had scored.

I’m not for one minute saying it was just our fans causing trouble.

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Re: Too close for comfort …

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:49 am

I sit next to the netting on the very end row, Blackpool fans started the throwing first way before we even scored, coins, food (I got covered from head to toe in Mustard) pies, **** in a pint glass, parts of chairs just to name a few, also there was at least ten lads aged from about 16 to 50 spitting all through the game at us, I was covered, I said to my lad if one lands in my face I'd drag the dirty ******* over the barrier and **** him up and I'm not a violent man normally.

On the subject of spitting the police stood in front of the Blackpool fan's watching them doing it did nothing other than put PPE glasses on

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Post by Venkys4eva » Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:53 am

bumba wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:29 am
Strange you think Burnley fans threw an orange smoke bomb in to the away end.
The away fans threw flares in to the home end before kick off as well as e cigs and a lot of objects that can cause a lot of damage throughout the game.
Why is it always our fans fault? Blackpool fans kicked it all off from minute 1
So they started it? It sounds like back in the school yard when i was 10. They are all pathetic which ever side they are on :roll:

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Re: Too close for comfort …

Post by Top Claret » Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:56 am

I sit in the BL and took note that the police with cameras filmed the trouble in cricket field stand all through the 1st half and then took up position between the fans in the 2nd. 1 or 2 of our fans could be having a copper at their doors over the next couple of weeks with banning orders to follow.

Stewarding was rubbish with Blackpool fans piling into one area it looked more like a mosh pit

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Re: Too close for comfort …

Post by Zlatan » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:00 am

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:49 am
I sit next to the netting on the very end row, Blackpool fans started the throwing first way before we even scored, coins, food (I got covered from head to toe in Mustard) pies, **** in a pint glass, parts of chairs just to name a few, also there was at least ten lads aged from about 16 to 50 spitting all through the game at us, I was covered, I said to my lad if one lands in my face I'd drag the dirty ******* over the barrier and **** him up and I'm not a violent man normally.

On the subject of spitting the police stood in front of the Blackpool fan's watching them doing it did nothing other than put PPE glasses on
All of that was after our goal though, and our fans being utter morons.

It all needs to stop, and we can’t preach to away fans until we get our own fans in order can we!

Seriously, people will get badly hurt before long and I’ll be able to say “I told you so” which isn’t good is it.

I’d happily identify all the yobs who need kicking out, the majority of which would be u22 Season Ticket holders who paid less than £100 for them - happy to ban the idiots for the rest of the season. You don’t need to do that crap to create an atmosphere, by all means have banter and singing but stop rushing towards away fans and standing on other peoples seats to spend the whole game just goading the away fans - watch the game, support the team, just don’t be a knob

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Re: Too close for comfort …

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:07 am

Zlatan what part of the stand do you sit

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Re: Too close for comfort …

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Re: Too close for comfort …

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:11 am

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This moron spent the whole game facing the Burnley fans and spitting, this was way before the game had even kicked off

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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:16 am

All four of these just spent the game spitting all game at the Burnley fan's and that was just the Blackpool fans next to me

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Re: Too close for comfort …

Post by bumba » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:26 am

All they have to do is put a higher fence/netting/rails or something similar even a plastic perspex to stop objects being thrown or people getting across the barrier. Quite simple for the club to do
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Re: Too close for comfort …

Post by Zlatan » Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:49 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:07 am
Zlatan what part of the stand do you sit
Front of Block 13 in CFS

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Re: Too close for comfort …

Post by Zlatan » Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:50 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:07 am
Zlatan what part of the stand do you sit
For context - my seat is just out of shot behind this bunch of idiots - the ones in this video are the repeat offenders and the one in the white shirt was removed early in the second half.

From the Police thread the link to Twitter

https://twitter.com/_theawayends/status ... elyfwxbGCg

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Re: Too close for comfort …

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:59 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:16 am
All four of these just spent the game spitting all game at the Burnley fan's and that was just the Blackpool fans next to me


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Genuine question, why would you choose to buy a ticket right next to the away fans? I couldn’t think of a less enjoyable way to watch the game.
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Re: Too close for comfort …

Post by Zlatan » Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:05 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:59 pm
Genuine question, why would you choose to buy a ticket right next to the away fans? I couldn’t think of a less enjoyable way to watch the game.
Whilst not as close, I am close enough. Had my ST in that section of CFS since they opened it up to home fans and overall it is great. The problems began last season, and have progressively deteriorated to the state we have now. Away fans are IMO purely reacting to the terrible behaviour of a small section of our own idiots and it has to stop. Get our own house in order and it will be enjoyable again.

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Re: Too close for comfort …

Post by Gunfury » Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:08 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:11 am
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This moron spent the whole game facing the Burnley fans and spitting, this was way before the game had even kicked off
I thought Elton John was a Watford fan?

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Re: Too close for comfort …

Post by Goody1975 » Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:12 pm

Didn't realise there was a thread specifically regarding the CFS.

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The no mans land needs to be bigger, the attempt to add some netting to the seats next to the divide actually made things worse as it gave fans something to stand on.

The longer term answer is to probably replace the wooden seats in the home section with plastic ones, the seats are slightly smaller meaning the same amount of seats in a smaller space this can allow a larger gap between home and away fans.

Short term answer would be to have stewards inside the home section of the divide in an attempt to stop fans getting to each other but really think the small section in the home end will be left empty if this continues for games where the away section is full.


The home games before the world cup break with away followings above 2,000, which wouldn't allow the away section to be sectioned off nearest the divide:-

Norwich (decent away support) is a Friday so should be fine.
Stoke (hit & miss this season) is a Wednesday night, so again should be okay unless they go on a big run.

Blackburn game is the big issue but the club have time to put a plan in place which allows all the season ticket holders to retain access to the CFS but limit flashpoint areas, not every seat is taken in the CFS so the safety team must have thought of a scenario that can work.

Loads of games in the second block of fixtures which could be problem games.

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Post by bumba » Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:43 pm

Won't be an issue for PNE game as we've agreed to give them the whole Fishwick Stand, I bet we do same with Blackburn too.
Not sure they'll be too many happy fans being sent from there to the other 3 stands for those two games. Away end will sound very loud!

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Re: Too close for comfort …

Post by Goody1975 » Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:49 pm

bumba wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:43 pm
Won't be an issue for PNE game as we've agreed to give them the whole Fishwick Stand, I bet we do same with Blackburn too.
Not sure they'll be too many happy fans being sent from there to the other 3 stands for those two games. Away end will sound very loud!
Says who?

Surely if that was the case the tickets wouldn't already be on sale.

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Re: Too close for comfort …

Post by bumba » Mon Aug 22, 2022 2:25 am

PNE fans with season tickets in that stand have had a letter explaining it to them.
Blackburn game I'm just thinking will end the same way.

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