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Re: Police

Post by Zlatan » Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:44 pm

Top Claret wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:36 pm
I have never worn a Burnley shirt to an away match in all my 50 plus years travelling sway as I really think you are unfortunately asking for a slap
Oh behave. It’s not the colour of the shirt it’s the person wearing it! I happily wore my claret shirt in the pub outside Elland Road and got on absolutely fine with the locals - it’s called respect and these utter belmtards in that video on Twitter have no respect for themselves or anyone else. They’re a scourge on society and football is unfortunately bearing the brunt right now.
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Re: Police

Post by Top Claret » Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:49 pm

No you behave.

You obviously don't get out of your air conditioned office much and your away days are as regularly as a Preston Guild

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Re: Police

Post by Zlatan » Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:52 pm

Top Claret wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:49 pm
No you behave.

You obviously don't get out of your air conditioned office much and your away days are as regularly as a Preston Guild
Done plenty of away games in my life pal, I think it’s unfortunate that you want to always resort to personal jibes to try and make your terrible viewpoints objective. Ah well, perhaps you’ll gain understanding one day but I suspect not.

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Re: Police

Post by Top Claret » Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:53 pm

JohnMcGreal wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 1:31 pm
Spot on.

While I'm not condoning the awful actions of a sizeable minority, it's hardly surprising that the younger generations are displaying such anger, aggression and moral inadequacy given the recent and current climate.

I'm afraid as a country, collectively, we're reaping what we've sown, and it will most likely get a lot worse than this.

History is repeating itself.


Oh hi

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Re: Police

Post by Top Claret » Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:55 pm

Zlatan wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:52 pm
Done plenty of away games in my life pal, I think it’s unfortunate that you want to always resort to personal jibes to try and make your terrible viewpoints objective. Ah well, perhaps you’ll gain understanding one day but I suspect not.

Lets get something straight, me and thee will never be pals

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Re: Police

Post by Zlatan » Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:56 pm

Top Claret wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:55 pm
Lets get something straight, me and thee will never be pals
Such a relief, why thanks and all that
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Re: Police

Post by dougcollins » Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:58 pm

Jeez, get a room you two.

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Re: Police

Post by Dressinggown » Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:32 pm

It was inevitable that there was going to be a bit of trouble. Us and Blackpool have a bit of history in the past.

How on earth did a decision be made that had the CFS with virtually no segregation?

There was no sign of stewards or the Police when it kicked off.

The way the game went brought passions from both set of supporters.

Yorkshire Street seemed blocked with Police vehicles for a good while after the match.

On the balance of things our home game v Beasterds could well be interesting with no travel restrictions in place.

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Re: Police

Post by BurnleyFC » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:09 pm

gawthorpe_view wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:41 am
Twitter link.

Pretty disgraceful behaviour.

https://twitter.com/_theawayends/status ... qqmOQ&s=19
What am I missing here?

A bit of goading from both sets of fans is hardly anything to get excited about.

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Re: Police

Post by dougcollins » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:15 pm

Dressinggown wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:32 pm
It was inevitable that there was going to be a bit of trouble. Us and Blackpool have a bit of history in the past.

How on earth did a decision be made that had the CFS with virtually no segregation?

There was no sign of stewards or the Police when it kicked off.

The way the game went brought passions from both set of supporters.

Yorkshire Street seemed blocked with Police vehicles for a good while after the match.

On the balance of things our home game v Beasterds could well be interesting with no travel restrictions in place.
Exactly what I thought. It was like some kind of corporate memory loss, like we’ve never played Blackpool before.

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Re: Police

Post by shulgin » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:38 pm

Get some NWA on.

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Re: Police

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:50 pm

looks like nothing but pavement jumpers, none of them would have lasted 2 minutes in the 80's and 90's. Some of them will end up in jail before the season is over though

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Re: Police

Post by Bosscat » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:57 pm

Top Claret wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:36 pm
I have never worn a Burnley shirt to an away match in all my 50 plus years travelling sway as I really think you are unfortunately asking for a slap
Well in my past 30 odd years of following the Clarets away (nigh on 70 different grounds) I've worn my footy shirt on each trip (apart from a visit to PNE in hospitality) & never had any bother on any of the trips ...

The ones asking for a slap ... are the idiots who get in peoples faces and seek out the trouble ... not because they are wearing a football shirt ...

Southampton away we went into a Restaurant after the game and sat there with Southampton fans on the other tables and enjoyed banter and Footy Chat ... Its about being decent with other people ... and if someone is giving it "billy big balls" just walk away ...
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Re: Police

Post by Burnley Ace » Sun Aug 21, 2022 11:23 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:09 pm
What am I missing here?

A bit of goading from both sets of fans is hardly anything to get excited about.
You think it’s right that the women sitting there are “goaded”? Would you be if that was your mum?
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Re: Police

Post by mybloodisclaret » Mon Aug 22, 2022 12:34 am

There was a rumour that we in the CFS were getting booted out for roverrrs visit to the Turf. I can 100% see that on the cards.

I don't sit near the divide and am a lot closer to the Longside.

For the record:

I don't take any drugs.
I have never been arrested.
I am not a football hooligan.
I sing songs at the correct speed.
I am a passionate Burnley fan (home and away) but when we score I manage to direct my excitement towards the pitch where the players are celebrating.

Seriously people need to sort themselves out. It will be all of us who suffer if they don't.

Nothing wrong with banter and singing backwards ans forwards, but celebrate with the team, not the away support.
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Re: Police

Post by Wembley09 » Mon Aug 22, 2022 1:09 am

Maybe there's a reason the police are like that.
You could be slagging them off when you don't know what's happened before you got there.

If not for the police, it could have been far worse by the sounds of things with how the fans were behaving under the culvert. Certain people are not going to calm themselves down or show respect for families and kids.. so appreciate the police there doing a job.

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Re: Police

Post by corporal jones » Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:24 am

taio wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:42 am
I walk under the culvert after every game and rarely see trouble.
I walk under the culvert after every game and have never seen any trouble.

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Re: Police

Post by Neil » Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:56 am

Slightly off topic but I've always found grown men wearing official club tops a bit strange. Always thought they were for kids. Might just be me though!
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Re: Police

Post by Claret Till I Die » Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:04 am

Neil wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:56 am
Slightly off topic but I've always found grown men wearing official club tops a bit strange. Always thought they were for kids. Might just be me though!
No too many kids who are large shirt sized or above so I'd suggest that it was you....

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Re: Police

Post by Ampth7 » Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:31 am

gawthorpe_view wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:41 am
Twitter link.

Pretty disgraceful behaviour.

https://twitter.com/_theawayends/status ... qqmOQ&s=19
Never ceases to amaze me when I see this sort of moronic behaviour at a game of football!! Sadly, the game is never far from its next disaster and it wouldn’t surprise me if that happens soon enough. A lot of angry people out there sadly, but that’s no excuse and I hope the club deal with this lot!

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Re: Police

Post by Colburn_Claret » Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:40 am

gawthorpe_view wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:41 am
Twitter link.

Pretty disgraceful behaviour.

https://twitter.com/_theawayends/status ... qqmOQ&s=19
Pathetic

I've never understood this chest beating, arm waving stance. I'm guessing they think it makes them look hard, personally I think it makes them look like wimps.

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Re: Police

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Mon Aug 22, 2022 9:03 am

I know for a fact going forward the gap between the two sets of fans for the high profile games will be bigger and stewards in the middle will be joined with a full line of police now

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Re: Police

Post by Zlatan » Mon Aug 22, 2022 9:09 am

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 9:03 am
I know for a fact going forward the gap between the two sets of fans for the high profile games will be bigger and stewards in the middle will be joined with a full line of police now
The club just need to identify those persistent brain dead’s and ban them - 1 game first offence; 5 games 2nd offence; season ban 3rd offence etc etc… in all honesty, would only take about 15-20 bans for it to be effective.
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Re: Police

Post by Billy Balfour » Mon Aug 22, 2022 9:15 am

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:40 am
Pathetic

I've never understood this chest beating, arm waving stance. I'm guessing they think it makes them look hard, personally I think it makes them look like wimps.
I feel so sorry for those caught up in that mess. It's just not on, and I don't care who started it, because there's no excuse. People of all ages should be able to go to football matches without having to be worried about whether they are going to be assaulted or trampled on. The older ones trying to get out of the way were frightened. Decent people find it appalling. Only arseholes can condone such behaviour.
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Re: Police

Post by dougcollins » Mon Aug 22, 2022 9:21 am

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 9:03 am
I know for a fact going forward the gap between the two sets of fans for the high profile games will be bigger and stewards in the middle will be joined with a full line of police now
Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

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Re: Police

Post by Andreshotboots » Mon Aug 22, 2022 9:54 am

Not overly looking forward to Wigan on Saturday if I'm honest which is just wrong...

Getting the train with a few mates and there's lots of rumours going around that the Wigan fans are planning to ambush/ attack as many Clarets fans as possible.

Hope this is just chest beating from the scallies, I go to have a few beers, watch a good footy match and have a good day out.

Lets hope the GMP are on the ball Saturday..

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Re: Police

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Mon Aug 22, 2022 10:14 am

Where have those rumours come from?

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Re: Police

Post by gawthorpe_view » Mon Aug 22, 2022 10:21 am

Andreshotboots wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 9:54 am
Not overly looking forward to Wigan on Saturday if I'm honest which is just wrong...

Getting the train with a few mates and there's lots of rumours going around that the Wigan fans are planning to ambush/ attack as many Clarets fans as possible.

Hope this is just chest beating from the scallies, I go to have a few beers, watch a good footy match and have a good day out.

Lets hope the GMP are on the ball Saturday..
The same rumours were doing the rounds in the mid 80's.

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Re: Police

Post by 4midable » Mon Aug 22, 2022 10:21 am

Zlatan wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 9:09 am
The club just need to identify those persistent brain dead’s and ban them - 1 game first offence; 5 games 2nd offence; season ban 3rd offence etc etc… in all honesty, would only take about 15-20 bans for it to be effective.
It wouldnt though
Thats for the seats closest to the away fans

After the game yesterday there was about 150 fans ready for a brawl under the culvert and half as many blackpool lads across the road

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Re: Police

Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Aug 22, 2022 10:23 am

Andreshotboots wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 9:54 am
Not overly looking forward to Wigan on Saturday if I'm honest which is just wrong...

Getting the train with a few mates and there's lots of rumours going around that the Wigan fans are planning to ambush/ attack as many Clarets fans as possible.

Hope this is just chest beating from the scallies, I go to have a few beers, watch a good footy match and have a good day out.

Lets hope the GMP are on the ball Saturday..
I wouldn't worry, there will be more Clarets then pie eaters there.

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Re: Police

Post by BurnleyFC » Mon Aug 22, 2022 10:28 am

Burnley Ace wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 11:23 pm
You think it’s right that the women sitting there are “goaded”? Would you be if that was your mum?
Coin tossing is disgraceful. Violence is disgraceful. Racism is disgraceful. What I saw on that (albeit short) video was both sets of fans goading one another.

Ashley Barnes has done worse things than that to opposition fans.

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Re: Police

Post by Zlatan » Mon Aug 22, 2022 10:49 am

BurnleyFC wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 10:28 am
Coin tossing is disgraceful. Violence is disgraceful. Racism is disgraceful. What I saw on that (albeit short) video was both sets of fans goading one another.

Ashley Barnes has done worse things than that to opposition fans.
Recently (last season too) it has been much more than just goading people though. These idiots have increasingly got worse and now spend much of the match running up and down the aisles in front of my seat or across the seats pushing people out of the way to goad which meant it spoils it for everyone in the stand.

These idiots also throw things into the away end, yesterday I saw pies; drinks; allegedly a cup of urine; pyrotechnics all being thrown both ways by these idiots. It is the same idiots every game, they're not there to watch the match, as they don't even look at the bloody pitch for most of the game!
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Re: Police

Post by BurnleyFC » Mon Aug 22, 2022 10:53 am

Zlatan wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 10:49 am
Recently (last season too) it has been much more than just goading people though. These idiots have increasingly got worse and now spend much of the match running up and down the aisles in front of my seat or across the seats pushing people out of the way to goad which meant it spoils it for everyone in the stand.

These idiots also throw things into the away end, yesterday I saw pies; drinks; allegedly a cup of urine; pyrotechnics all being thrown both ways by these idiots. It is the same idiots every game, they're not there to watch the match, as they don't even look at the bloody pitch for most of the game!
Which is disgraceful and if there is video evidence of that happening then I would expect the authorities to take appropriate action.

Unfortunately (or fortunately depending on who you are), that video doesn’t show any of that. It shows two sets of fans getting a bit over excited.

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Re: Police

Post by Billy Balfour » Mon Aug 22, 2022 11:17 am

I saw some middle-aged people with real fear written all over their faces while trying to get out of the way, but hey-oh, it only fans getting a bit overexcited? Have a good word with yourself, FFS.

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Re: Police

Post by BurnleyFC » Mon Aug 22, 2022 12:32 pm

Billy Balfour wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 11:17 am
I saw some middle-aged people with real fear written all over their faces while trying to get out of the way, but hey-oh, it only fans getting a bit overexcited? Have a good word with yourself, FFS.
You saw all that from that 5 second clip? Really?

The two women in the Blackpool end look like they’re about to burst out laughing to be fair.

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Re: Police

Post by BurnleyFC » Mon Aug 22, 2022 12:42 pm

Billy Balfour wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 11:17 am
I saw some middle-aged people with real fear written all over their faces while trying to get out of the way, but hey-oh, it only fans getting a bit overexcited? Have a good word with yourself, FFS.
And to repeat myself - I think hooliganism is pathetic and disgraceful, so I don’t need to have a word with myself, thanks.

But I don’t think that video is the damning evidence that you seem to think it is.

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Re: Police

Post by Zlatan » Mon Aug 22, 2022 12:50 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 12:42 pm
And to repeat myself - I think hooliganism is pathetic and disgraceful, so I don’t need to have a word with myself, thanks.

But I don’t think that video is the damning evidence that you seem to think it is.
there's 5 highlighted here who I know ran across seats and barged people out of the way to do what they did on that short clip - I also know the club has much better quality CCTV images to work with. What I dont understand is the lack of effective and decisive action from the club in regards to punishing these repeat offenders.
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Re: Police

Post by BurnleyFC » Mon Aug 22, 2022 12:54 pm

Zlatan wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 12:50 pm
there's 5 highlighted here who I know ran across seats and barged people out of the way to do what they did on that short clip - I also know the club has much better quality CCTV images to work with. What I dont understand is the lack of effective and decisive action from the club in regards to punishing these repeat offenders.

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And if there is evidence of them doing so, and throwing coins and bottles of **** (and I don’t doubt your account in the slightest) then they should receive lifetime bans at the very, very least.

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Re: Police

Post by Venkys4eva » Mon Aug 22, 2022 12:57 pm

Neil wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:56 am
Slightly off topic but I've always found grown men wearing official club tops a bit strange. Always thought they were for kids. Might just be me though!
Have to say ive never, and would never wear a football shirt unless I was playing football. They look awful and make you sweat like a pig.

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Re: Police

Post by Venkys4eva » Mon Aug 22, 2022 12:58 pm

Zlatan wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 12:50 pm
there's 5 highlighted here who I know ran across seats and barged people out of the way to do what they did on that short clip - I also know the club has much better quality CCTV images to work with. What I dont understand is the lack of effective and decisive action from the club in regards to punishing these repeat offenders.

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Are those 2 identical twins they look like it.

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Re: Police

Post by Zlatan » Mon Aug 22, 2022 1:03 pm

Venkys4eva wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 12:58 pm
Are those 2 identical twins they look like it.
they may share a brain cell between them so possibly...
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Re: Police

Post by gandhisflipflop » Mon Aug 22, 2022 1:13 pm

Zlatan wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 10:49 am
Recently (last season too) it has been much more than just goading people though. These idiots have increasingly got worse and now spend much of the match running up and down the aisles in front of my seat or across the seats pushing people out of the way to goad which meant it spoils it for everyone in the stand.

These idiots also throw things into the away end, yesterday I saw pies; drinks; allegedly a cup of urine; pyrotechnics all being thrown both ways by these idiots. It is the same idiots every game, they're not there to watch the match, as they don't even look at the bloody pitch for most of the game!
You should all sit down it’s safer ;)

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Re: Police

Post by bfcjg » Mon Aug 22, 2022 1:15 pm

I think this is in danger of blowing a handbags incident into a full blown riot that will be told in pubs for years to come. Also I'd be very careful pointing individuals out on here as hooligans.

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Re: Police

Post by Zlatan » Mon Aug 22, 2022 1:21 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 1:13 pm
You should all sit down it’s safer ;)
would love to, in fact I used to be able to until last season for large parts of the game afterall its an all seater stadium. This weekend I saw very little of the game because of these idiots constantly standing or running in front of my seat.

For the record though, I do think that the club should focus more on the behaviour issues in the CFS than they have on people persistently standing in JHL - that said, would be good to sort it all out.

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Re: Police

Post by Zlatan » Mon Aug 22, 2022 1:23 pm

bfcjg wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 1:15 pm
I think this is in danger of blowing a handbags incident into a full blown riot that will be told in pubs for years to come. Also I'd be very careful pointing individuals out on here as hooligans.
Why - I have taken the screenshot from publicly available video footage on Twitter that shows these people stood on seats and behaving badly - what should I call them? Brian perhaps, because he's a naughty boy...?
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Re: Police

Post by AlargeClaret » Mon Aug 22, 2022 1:38 pm

Top Claret wrote:
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Re: Police

Post by bfcjg » Mon Aug 22, 2022 1:39 pm

What if one of them was asking a steward to sort out the Blackpool fan who had just spat at him ?

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Re: Police

Post by Zlatan » Mon Aug 22, 2022 2:46 pm

bfcjg wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 1:39 pm
What if one of them was asking a steward to sort out the Blackpool fan who had just spat at him ?
Humour me... which one of the alleged hooligans I identified using a screenshot from a video that IMO clearly shows them being alleged hooligans (as per the definition above https://www.uptheclarets.com/messageboa ... 7#p1893667) is communicating with a steward about being spat at by a Blackpool fan?

Dont worry I'll answer it as I was actually there (yes, a real eye witness as the police would say) just out of shot trying to watch the match - none of them were spat at by Blackpool fans.

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Re: Police

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Aug 22, 2022 2:50 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 10:28 am
Coin tossing is disgraceful. Violence is disgraceful. Racism is disgraceful. What I saw on that (albeit short) video was both sets of fans goading one another.

Ashley Barnes has done worse things than that to opposition fans.
I wonder if you'll be on here moaning when the club make the decision they've had enough and make the Cricket Field away fans only ?
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Re: Police

Post by Barry_Chuckle » Mon Aug 22, 2022 3:17 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 2:50 pm
I wonder if you'll be on here moaning when the club make the decision they've had enough and make the Cricket Field away fans only ?
Even better idea, make it home fans only, rather than move 2400 home fans out, move say the 600-700 ticket holder of the JML and put the visitors in there. Just an alternative solution.

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