Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

[Newcastleclaret93]

I bet if it was Dyche making the very same signings you would be creamin' ya'sen..

Bit of pointless statement as Dyche wouldn’t be signing these type of players.

[expoultryboy]

We've got a ready made experienced CH at the club who's only 36 , 6'4" , and played many times in the champions league . Get ya boots out VK ( and put Bellamy up front) . Sorted Boss Hogg .

[jedi_master]

Can’t write any of them off yet - or say any of them are conclusively good enough either.

(Exceptions being THB and Maatsen who have looked a cut above so far).

[Guller Bull]

Not sure what has happened to McNally as he was one that I thought would be a starter from the off. Has he picked up a knock?

[Newcastleclaret93]

Not sure what has happened to McNally as he was one that I thought would be a starter from the off. Has he picked up a knock?

I think he looks quite a good player but the step up is massive from League 1 to championship. Probably going to take him a while to adjust.

[Guller Bull]

Does look a player, think in the medium term he will be solid at the back with THB. Egan Riley I think will take time to adjust but we can afford to give him that time as he is a permanent signing and one for the future.

[RVclaret]

Can’t write any of them off yet - or say any of them are conclusively good enough either.

(Exceptions being THB and Maatsen who have looked a cut above so far).

I’d add Tella and Cullen to that personally.

So with Zaroury signing, do we think there’s room for another attacking signing in the squad? We are pretty well stocked up there now - particularly with JBG back and Twine close. Though if Archer comes available I’m sure VK won’t be turning it down…

Perhaps we need to try find a new club for some of the players not likely to feature much and trim the squad down a bit within this next week.

[Newcastleclaret93]

I’d add Tella and Cullen to that personally.

So with Zaroury signing, do we think there’s room for another attacking signing in the squad? We are pretty well stocked up there now - particularly with JBG back and Twine close. Though if Archer comes available I’m sure VK won’t be turning it down…

Perhaps we need to try find a new club for some of the players not likely to feature much and trim the squad down a bit within this next week.

Tella potentially.

Cullen looks a run of the mill championship player to me.

I do agree, I wouldn’t be surprised to see a couple of the players we have brought in go out on loan. Looking at McNally, Benson, Costelloe and potentially that new keeper.

[bpgburn]

Bit of pointless statement as Dyche wouldn’t be signing these type of players.

Not as pointless as writing off the quality of the signings after only 5 games, no real pre season to gel with each other, not to mention a new system and manager.

[jedi_master]

I really think a player of Archer’s profile could be the catalyst for us, possibly a centre back too if greedy but we have loads already so I don’t know if we can really justify it without the likes of Long leaving.

Need to push as hard as possible for Archer.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Not as pointless as writing off the quality of the signings after only 5 games, no real pre season to gel with each other, not to mention a new system and manager.

Not writing anyone off.

Just haven’t seen anything yet to suggest the new permanent signings look top quality

[RVclaret]

Tella potentially.

Cullen looks a run of the mill championship player to me.

I do agree, I wouldn’t be surprised to see a couple of the players we have brought in go out on loan. Looking at McNally, Benson, Costelloe and potentially that new keeper.

No chance Benson goes out on loan, he’s 25 years old, just needs to adapt to the league. Looked good when he came on last week. Costelloe possibly, new keeper I’d imagine will challenge for number 2, BFP loan likelier. Then there’s Long, Lowton, Thomas.

Cullen looks quality to me - you’ve been craving a midfielder who can get on the ball, receive it all over the pitch and retain possession, while also looking for line breaking passes, now we have one and he’s a ‘run of the mill Champ player’.

[Newcastleclaret93]

No chance Benson goes out on loan, he’s 25 years old, just needs to adapt to the league. Looked good when he came on last week. Costelloe possibly, new keeper I’d imagine will challenge for number 2, BFP loan likelier. Then there’s Long, Lowton, Thomas.

Cullen looks quality to me - you’ve been craving a midfielder who can get on the ball, receive it all over the pitch and retain possession, while also looking for line breaking passes, now we have one and he’s a ‘run of the mill Champ player’.

Be surprised if Benson stays tbh. He’s one player that has really disappointed me so far. We have signed that many attackers one of them will have to make way.

Cullen looks good in flashes but so do plenty of CMs at this level. He’s been ok, but I wouldn’t say he is “quality”. I class quality as a player I could see performing in the premier league.

[bpgburn]

Not writing anyone off.

Just haven’t seen anything yet to suggest the new permanent signings look top quality

That's because we've only played 5 games...

[Ampth7]

Just my opinion to date. They may prove other wise but so far the only top talented lads seem to be the loans.

Why not come at it from a glass half full point of view? Something more positive maybe? I do appreciate that we would all like £10 million pound signings now that we are in the Championship, but alas, we don’t have that kind of money for one reason or another.

Am I 100% delighted with ALK and Pace? No. Am I overly happy with how the previous ‘owners’ ran the squad into the ground? No. However, it is what it is, and I really can’t see any benefit from bitching and moaning about it, so why not support what VK and his team are trying to implement?

If we are 20th come May next year, I will happily come back on here to congratulate you on your accurate predictions of doom and gloom, but in the meantime, let’s show some support and positivity!! Just a thought

[Newcastleclaret93]

Why not come at it from a glass half full point of view? Something more positive maybe? I do appreciate that we would all like £10 million pound signings now that we are in the Championship, but alas, we don’t have that kind of money for one reason or another.

Am I 100% delighted with ALK and Pace? No. Am I overly happy with how the previous ‘owners’ ran the squad into the ground? No. However, it is what it is, and I really can’t see any benefit from bitching and moaning about it, so why not support what VK and his team are trying to implement?

If we are 20th come May next year, I will happily come back on here to congratulate you on your accurate predictions of doom and gloom, but in the meantime, let’s show some support and positivity!! Just a thought

I really don’t see this as bitching and moaning or being doom and gloom.

Just giving my opinion on the players we have signed. You don’t have to agree that’s fair enough.

I think our best players are the loans. The permanent signings all look very lightweight and will probably struggle at this level.

[RVclaret]

Be surprised if Benson stays tbh. He’s one player that has really disappointed me so far. We have signed that many attackers one of them will have to make way.

Cullen looks good in flashes but so do plenty of CMs at this level. He’s been ok, but I wouldn’t say he is “quality”. I class quality as a player I could see performing in the premier league.

You’ll be surprised if a player we’ve just signed for £3m and has signed a 4 year contract stays at the club, a month after he signed?

Regarding his performances, he’s played 3/4 times, has been good in two and poor in two, hardly worth writing off.

After Huddersfield you said Cullen reminded you of Defour.

[Newcastleclaret93]

You’ll be surprised if a player we’ve just signed for £3m and has signed a 4 year contract stays at the club, a month after he signed?

Regarding his performances, he’s played 3/4 times, has been good in two and poor in two, hardly worth writing off.

I just think of all the players on the books he’s the most likely to go out on loan.

Surely we aren’t going to keep the following players on the books:

Azoury
Twine
Churlinov
Benson
Gudmundsson
Brownhill
Bastien
Vitinho
Tella
Costelloe

That’s ten players currently for 3 starting positions

[KefkaClaret]

You’ll be surprised if a player we’ve just signed for £3m and has signed a 4 year contract stays at the club, a month after he signed?

Regarding his performances, he’s played 3/4 times, has been good in two and poor in two, hardly worth writing off.

After Huddersfield you said Cullen reminded you of Defour.

TBF, we sold Jelle Vossen a month later

[RVclaret]

Vitinho and Bastien have been playing out of their main position so I wouldn’t include them.

Costelloe probably wouldn’t have been involved if we’d had the numbers earlier, so yeah I think a loan could be ideal.

So thats 7 now. JBG can’t be relied on really and Brownhill has that flexibility to drop back into the midfield 2.

[RVclaret]

I just think of all the players on the books he’s the most likely to go out on loan.

Surely we aren’t going to keep the following players on the books:

Azoury
Twine
Churlinov
Benson
Gudmundsson
Brownhill
Bastien
Vitinho
Tella
Costelloe

That’s ten players currently for 3 starting positions

Vitinho and Bastien have been playing out of their main position so I wouldn’t include them.

Costelloe probably wouldn’t have been involved if we’d had the numbers earlier, so yeah I think a loan could be ideal.

So thats 7 now. JBG can’t be relied on really and Brownhill has that flexibility to drop back into the midfield 2.

[RVclaret]

TBF, we sold Jelle Vossen a month later

Good point, though I think he just didn’t suit Dyche’s system one bit, real odd one that.

[DCWat]

Vitinho and Bastien have been playing out of their main position so I wouldn’t include them.

Costelloe probably wouldn’t have been involved if we’d had the numbers earlier, so yeah I think a loan could be ideal.

So thats 7 now. JBG can’t be relied on really and Brownhill has that flexibility to drop back into the midfield 2.

Time will tell but assuming we bring a striker in, it’s the lack of a central attacking midfielder that surprises me. There’s Twine but of the ithers, they do seem to be of a similar ilk.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Time will tell but assuming we bring a striker in, it’s the lack of a central attacking midfielder that surprises me. There’s Twine but of the ithers, they do seem to be of a similar ilk.

I’m surprised we haven’t gone big on either a striker or a ten

[Vegas Claret]

Maupay has signed for Everton from Brighton

[RVclaret]

Time will tell but assuming we bring a striker in, it’s the lack of a central attacking midfielder that surprises me. There’s Twine but of the ithers, they do seem to be of a similar ilk.

Think Churlinov and Zaroury are both comfortable there, sounds like Zaroury’s best position. Brownhill has probably been our best performer in that role so far. Then there’s Twine - not sure there’s a lack.

[Guller Bull]

I think he has several irons in the fire and central defence and attacking options will be filled by the end of the window.

Just my opinion but expecting at least 5/6 departures as a mixture of sales and loans.

[Ampth7]

I really don’t see this as bitching and moaning or being doom and gloom.

Just giving my opinion on the players we have signed. You don’t have to agree that’s fair enough.

I think our best players are the loans. The permanent signings all look very lightweight and will probably struggle at this level.

I completely respect your opinion, and you might be right with a few/some/all of them, but surely we can give them a bit more time before we start branding them ‘lightweight’? Why not get behind the project with a bit more optimism?

[Newcastleclaret93]

I completely respect your opinion, and you might be right with a few/some/all of them, but surely we can give them a bit more time before we start branding them ‘lightweight’? Why not get behind the project with a bit more optimism?

I just genuinely don’t see the optimism in the project right now (again i appreciate I am in the minority).

We are selling our best assets and replacing with seriously inferior players.

Each to there own I guess but right now I struggle to see the positives.

[Ampth7]

I just genuinely don’t see the optimism in the project right now (again i appreciate I am in the minority).

We are selling our best assets and replacing with seriously inferior players.

Each to there own I guess but right now I struggle to see the positives.

Okay, fair enough, but here’s hoping for better things to come. I’m sure we can all agree on that!

[Tricky Trevor]

Not writing anyone off.

Just haven’t seen anything yet to suggest the new permanent signings look top quality

Strange as we’ve had 70+% possession in almost every game this season and these guys don't know each other yet. Once we bed in our first X1 then will be assessment time.

[DCWat]

I just genuinely don’t see the optimism in the project right now (again i appreciate I am in the minority).

We are selling our best assets and replacing with seriously inferior players.

Each to there own I guess but right now I struggle to see the positives.

Ideally, we’d have held on to the core of our squad, for all of the reasons you know just as well as the rest of us, that wasn’t possible.

Have you not seen some positive signs from the games so far? Yes, there is plenty to work on but there are some promising foundations.

Every player won’t work out but some will. Give it time. Before a ball was kicked, Kompany was talking about it taking months, not five games!

We’ve a lot of young player, many of whom haven’t kicked a ball in English football before. I haven’t got my head in the sand to the point that I don’t have concerns but for god sake, give them time and have a bit of patience - you might actually enjoy it.

[Vegas Claret]

I just genuinely don’t see the optimism in the project right now (again i appreciate I am in the minority).

We are selling our best assets and replacing with seriously inferior players.

Each to there own I guess but right now I struggle to see the positives.

It seems those who truly understand the situation the club is in appreciate that it's a longer term process and it's not going to be perfect in the first 6 weeks, those that don't are those that display no patience or tolerance.

[NewClaret]

I just genuinely don’t see the optimism in the project right now (again i appreciate I am in the minority).

We are selling our best assets and replacing with seriously inferior players.

Each to there own I guess but right now I struggle to see the positives.

You expected us to sign Prem quality players? Of course we were always going to sign inferior players to the ones we’d were selling if we were relegated.

[louieollie]

A lot of players in but very little quality.

Incredible! ....Surely with that ability to spot if a player is good or bad in such a short space of time you're destined for big things in the world of football.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Okay, fair enough, but here’s hoping for better things to come. I’m sure we can all agree on that!

Yes hopefully, i am hopeful one or two come out of the blue and really surprise me.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Ideally, we’d have held on to the core of our squad, for all of the reasons you know just as well as the rest of us, that wasn’t possible.

Have you not seen some positive signs from the games so far? Yes, there is plenty to work on but there are some promising foundations.

Every player won’t work out but some will. Give it time. Before a ball was kicked, Kompany was talking about it taking months, not five games!

We’ve a lot of young player, many of whom haven’t kicked a ball in English football before. I haven’t got my head in the sand to the point that I don’t have concerns but for god sake, give them time and have a bit of patience - you might actually enjoy it.

In terms of positives in the style there’s a few but tbh I just don’t think we have the required quality to make it work effectively. If we had retained even two of the players we had lost I would be a lot more confident.

I understand Kompany needs months but it goes back to my first point. I just don’t see how this style of play is going to work without serious talent being brought in.

I am still hopeful that we bring in a top striker and number 10 before the window.

[Selby Claret]

Zaroury not in Charleroi squad tonight

[forzagranata]

If five games is too soon to judge players as “inferior quality” then it also surely has to be too soon for our transfers to be described as “pretty impressive business”.

Given the way we have gone about business and the lack of any proper medium to long term planning, VK has had to scramble around Belgium trying to pull a squad together. Its a very unprofessional way for a club to operate, but Kompany has certainly made every effort to try to somehow make it work.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

I just genuinely don’t see the optimism in the project right now (again i appreciate I am in the minority).

We are selling our best assets and replacing with seriously inferior players.

Each to there own I guess but right now I struggle to see the positives.

Few months ago you were on here telling us the squad under Dyche wouldn’t finish better than mid table in the championship? Changed your tune a bit!

[KRBFC]

Ideally, we’d have held on to the core of our squad, for all of the reasons you know just as well as the rest of us, that wasn’t possible.

Have you not seen some positive signs from the games so far? Yes, there is plenty to work on but there are some promising foundations.

Every player won’t work out but some will. Give it time. Before a ball was kicked, Kompany was talking about it taking months, not five games!

We’ve a lot of young player, many of whom haven’t kicked a ball in English football before. I haven’t got my head in the sand to the point that I don’t have concerns but for god sake, give them time and have a bit of patience - you might actually enjoy it.

The problem is, we've gambled in every position all at once. Law of averages suggests not all (in every position) will work out, well we need them to for promotion. I understand the need for time with the system and there's absolutely positive signs there. I think we lack 1 or 2 of real quality in key areas, instead we've took the cheap option and just gambled entirely.

I don't quite see the transfer policy either, our best players are the loanees. I think we've gone for these players because they are cheap rather than building quality for promotion and paying that little extra in vital areas. Many wrote off Dane Richards after 10 minutes, Benson is not good enough. He was poor in Belgium.

[IanMcL]

Debts being paid off confirmed that we sold our team to pay the debts! At least Bob Lord built a stand!

Burnley debts hurt Kompany's budget
Burnley have spent £32.3million this summer paying off almost half of the club's £65m loan from MSD Holdings in a series of payments that will severely impact Vincent Kompany's playing budget as he attempts to guide them back to the Premier League.


Sportsmail revealed in January that a significant part of what was initially an interest-only loan taken out to fund Burnley's £170m takeover by ALK Capital two years ago would become due if they were relegated last season, and the private equity firm have been quick to reclaim their money.

It is understood that Burnley made three payments to MSD of £15m, £5m and £12.3m over the last three months, leaving a total of £32.7m left on the loan, which if they had not been relegated would not have been due until 2026.

Burnley have funded the repayments through player sales, with Dwight McNeil, Nathan Collins and Maxwell Cornet sold for a total of £57.5m. The departures of Ben Mee and James Tarkowski on frees also cut the wage-bill.

[dsr]

If only that had had any transfer rumours in it, and hadn't had any financial discussion in it, it would have been perfect for this thread.

[Woodleyclaret]

Some excellent signings and to date no players looks a dud. Now we will start to fly, a nine point week beckons.

[Vegas Claret]

no idea if this has been reported, some CB called Mwanga but he's only 20

[dibraidio]

Junior Mwanga signed his first professional deal with Bordeaux just three weeks ago. The expectation was that he'd spend the season playing in D2. He's currently serving a ban for a red card he received on Saturday. A few sites are quoting that we're interested in him.

[dibraidio]

Sudinfo.db are reporting: Unless there is a surprising change in the situation, Anass Zaroury will join Burnley.
Sporting de Charleroi and Burnley have agreed a transfer fee of 3,5M euros plus diverse bonuses and a sell on clause earlier this week, the player and the Championship club have agreed terms on a 4 year deal. The Diablotin still needs to pass his medical which could be on Sunday or Monday before the transfer can be officially announced.

[Quicknick]

Sudinfo.db are reporting: Unless there is a surprising change in the situation, Anass Zaroury will join Burnley.
Sporting de Charleroi and Burnley have agreed a transfer fee of 3,5M euros plus diverse bonuses and a sell on clause earlier this week, the player and the Championship club have agreed terms on a 4 year deal. The Diablotin still needs to pass his medical which could be on Sunday or Monday before the transfer can be officially announced.

What is a Diablotin?

[BigChaCha]

There could well be something in the Anass Zaroury rumour because he matches other attacking buys in that he flatters to deceive!...

He looks like yet another player who looks exciting up until the final delivery or strike!... If you watch his clips, apart from the odd goal, very little comes from his attacks...

The good thing is that these signings are all young so have room to improve and grow with the system but we need to be prepared for some frustration which going off our last match I'm not sure we have the patience for.

[wilks_bfc]

What is a Diablotin?

Somebody from Diablo?