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Post by Jellybean » Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:37 am

Can THB play on the left side though?
Hopefully given all these forward players signed we won't have much defending to do!

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Post by Raggus » Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:37 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:36 am
Looks that way
How many articles have you got prepared for today Tony and in your heart how many do you think we will get in?

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Post by ClaretTony » Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:38 am

RVclaret wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:34 am
What about Dervisoglu and Obafemi?
I thought Dervişoğlu was just about done but nothing confirmed, although you can see I'm already practicing the spelling of his name. I don't think anything is agreed with Swansea on Obafemi although we are clearly keen on him.

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Post by ClaretTony » Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:38 am

Raggus wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:37 am
How many articles have you got prepared for today Tony and in your heart how many do you think we will get in?
Can only go off the info I've been given but I think there are likely to be a couple
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Post by Paul Waine » Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:40 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:38 am
I thought Dervişoğlu was just about done but nothing confirmed, although you can see I'm already practicing the spelling of his name. I don't think anything is agreed with Swansea on Obafemi although we are clearly keen on him.
I'm impressed with the Turkish accents.

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Post by Flying Without Ings » Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:41 am

Wonder if the media team will even have the time to prepare announcement videos if we sign anyone today…

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Post by Colburn_Claret » Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:45 am

Burnley Ace wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 10:32 am
Against Millwall he had the highest % pass success 91%.
The passing stats for the last 10 years are dominated by CHs who rarely pass more than 5 yards sideways or backwards, it means nothing.
THB can play a great long ball, and does often. Charlie's long balls are either way too heavy, or way to short. He gives the ball away when we are set up to be a possession team. How many times have we witnessed him jogging after a CF who has left him for dead. He reminds me a lot more of Maguire, than VVD. He also has made some really strange decisions. At Wigan last week all he had to do was shepherd a ball out for a goalkick, and panicked and hooked the ball into the middle of the box. It isn't the only time this season he's looked uncomfortable.
I'm not trying to have a dig, I said in my OP that he has always been one of the first names on the sheet, but imo this system doesn't suit him.
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Post by ClaretTony » Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:47 am

Paul Waine wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:40 am
I'm impressed with the Turkish accents.
It was heiaburnley who asked me a few years ago why I always wrote Gudmundsson rather than Guðmundsson - after that I started writing it correctly as I did with Matěj Vydra. So, I've got to carry that on now.
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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:50 am

Firthy wrote:
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You're the agent, you tell us 🤔😂
Travel Agent
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Post by kingarthur » Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:50 am

Another one to keep an eye on
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Post by CoolClaret » Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:51 am

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:45 am
The passing stats for the last 10 years are dominated by CHs who rarely pass more than 5 yards sideways or backwards, it means nothing.
Yup, forward pass accuracy % and % of progressive passes much better metrics

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Post by Claret Alfie » Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:57 am

Nixon linking us with Jason Knight too. Good player but I’m not sure he’s one we need tbh.

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Post by RVclaret » Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:58 am

Claret Alfie wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:57 am
Nixon linking us with Jason Knight too. Good player but I’m not sure he’s one we need tbh.
Can’t see where he’s linked us to Knight. You got a link?

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Post by CrosspoolClarets » Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:58 am

Warning to all. Looks to be fake account field day on Twitter pretending we have agreed deals for this or that player (clue = they tend to have one or two followers). I think I’ll leave it for a few hours and see if the main reporters announce anything developing rather than doing a trawl in the search bar.

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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:59 am

Burnley Express mentioned the lad from Germany now

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Post by Claret Alfie » Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:59 am

RVclaret wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:58 am
Can’t see where he’s linked us to Knight. You got a link?
Should have checked. It was a cloned account.

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Post by Goody1975 » Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:00 pm

"Beyer, who is under contract with Gladbach until 2026, is yet to feature for the club under Daniel Farke"

Other than a couple of spells out injured last season he played quite often but this season he's not played at all. Farke obviously doesn't fancy him.

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Post by Steddyman » Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:02 pm

Watford just cancelled Danny Rose's contract. I suspect under the old regime we would have been in for him. Good player but it seems his best days are well behind him.

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Post by Red Fox Rocks Socks » Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:04 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:02 pm
Watford just cancelled Danny Rose's contract. I suspect under the old regime we would have been in for him. Good player but it seems his best days are well behind him.
To quote Stan I think he’s injured between the ears

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:05 pm

Red Fox Rocks Socks wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:04 pm
To quote Stan I think he’s injured between the ears
steddyman or danny rose ?
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Post by aggi » Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:05 pm

claretspice wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 9:52 am
Not sure about that. Think it's easy to underestimate Long. He reads the game fairly well and is a technically good defender (he worked with Dyche for nearly 10 years) and is a good athlete - good in the air (which we need - THB is a bit vulnerable in the air and the common theme with almost all the top end teams in the league is that they'll be more physical than us) and deceptively quick - certainly at this level, he'd be perfectly comfortable with the high line that we play. Perhaps he's not as good as Kompany would like with ball at feet (I always thought that when he deputised for Tarkowski, we missed Tarks more in possession than defensively), but again our perception of him is slightly skewed by the fact virtually all his football for us has been at Premier League level where that is magnified. It might be that compromising slightly on the ability of one player of the team to play that way optimises the effectiveness of the team as a whole.

In an ideal world we'd bring in a centre back and Long would probably go to make way. I still think a centre half is our biggest single priority today. But it might be that Long's injury has actually scuppered that - we can't move him out. If he's in the squad, I'd be seriously contemplating him as a better option alongside THB than Taylor.
Would you move THB out of position to accommodate him? Whenever he's come in the other defender has always had to move over to the left to let Long play on the right.

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Post by eastcoastclaret » Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:10 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:28 am
https://twitter.com/berger_pj/status/15 ... 9385956353

More confirmation

Bit annoyed that its another loan, but I guess this is the way we are going to do it
Suggestion of a buy option
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Post by andyh » Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:16 pm

Cork City defender Alex Healy-Byrne being touted as joining U21

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Post by claretspice » Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:23 pm

aggi wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:05 pm
Would you move THB out of position to accommodate him? Whenever he's come in the other defender has always had to move over to the left to let Long play on the right.
The fact that Tarkowski and Keane were more comfortable than Long on the left doesn't necessarily mean he's not capable of playing on the left - and interestingly when Long briefly played came alongside Collins at the end of last season I'm fairly sure he did play to the left.

The German lad sounds interesting. I'd prefer a permanent deal but it may be that the loan reflects that at this stage in the window we can't get it over the line, rather than because a permanent deal is off the table. And in fairness, it increasingly looks like we signed 2 centre backs this summer who are medium term projects to give us a ready made partnership for next season - which perhaps makes me a bit more relaxed about a second loan.
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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:27 pm

Theo Walcott free to leave saints he would be a great experienced addition to forward line for 12 months

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Post by SkiptonClaret » Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:30 pm

We've plenty of experience.

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Post by BleedingClaret » Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:33 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:38 am
I thought Dervişoğlu was just about done but nothing confirmed, although you can see I'm already practicing the spelling of his name. I don't think anything is agreed with Swansea on Obafemi although we are clearly keen on him.
In the style of only fools and horses
We’re going to have to call him Dave

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:33 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:27 pm
Theo Walcott free to leave saints he would be a great experienced addition to forward line for 12 months
Can see him joining Bournemouth , rangers or Celtic

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:34 pm

eastcoastclaret wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:10 pm
Suggestion of a buy option
Was there even a response there?

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Post by eastcoastclaret » Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:34 pm

Brentford reporter saying news of a loan departure imminent
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Post by RVclaret » Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:34 pm

Athletic confirming Dervisoglu is close to joining on loan

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Post by Burnley Ace » Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:38 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:45 am
The passing stats for the last 10 years are dominated by CHs who rarely pass more than 5 yards sideways or backwards, it means nothing.
THB can play a great long ball, and does often. Charlie's long balls are either way too heavy, or way to short. He gives the ball away when we are set up to be a possession team. How many times have we witnessed him jogging after a CF who has left him for dead. He reminds me a lot more of Maguire, than VVD. He also has made some really strange decisions. At Wigan last week all he had to do was shepherd a ball out for a goalkick, and panicked and hooked the ball into the middle of the box. It isn't the only time this season he's looked uncomfortable.
I'm not trying to have a dig, I said in my OP that he has always been one of the first names on the sheet, but imo this system doesn't suit him.
You said his passing is really poor compared to those around him, it isn’t. He fits into this system, his role being to keep possession and to pass the ball to TBH or the wing back.

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Post by aggi » Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:39 pm

claretspice wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:23 pm
The fact that Tarkowski and Keane were more comfortable than Long on the left doesn't necessarily mean he's not capable of playing on the left - and interestingly when Long briefly played came alongside Collins at the end of last season I'm fairly sure he did play to the left.

The German lad sounds interesting. I'd prefer a permanent deal but it may be that the loan reflects that at this stage in the window we can't get it over the line, rather than because a permanent deal is off the table. And in fairness, it increasingly looks like we signed 2 centre backs this summer who are medium term projects to give us a ready made partnership for next season - which perhaps makes me a bit more relaxed about a second loan.
Collins played on the left when the two played together. Maybe he is capable of playing on the left, but he never seems to regardless of who the other defender is.

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Post by RVclaret » Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:39 pm

From the Athletic

‘Burnley are also understood to have not given up on prising Michael Obafemi away from Swansea. Despite the clubs being significantly apart in valuations, and Burnley having a bid rejected for the Irish international, there is hope a compromise can be reached.’

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Post by clive40golf » Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:39 pm

Not sure if this is new or not
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Post by Goody1975 » Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:40 pm

Mala591 wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:33 pm
Jordan Beyer
6’2”

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/jordan- ... ler/403898
Sorry, I make that 6ft 1 and a half. ;)

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Post by Boxy » Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:40 pm

I know a few people of complaining about loans. But when you are allowed 4 or 5 loan spots in your squad we would be stupid and naive not to use them to the fullest. Every team in the lower divisions will use them

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Post by BleedingClaret » Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:42 pm

On the Jordan Beyer link we are referred to as FC Burnley
Quite fitting with our new cosmopolitan image
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Post by BleedingClaret » Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:43 pm

Goody1975 wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:40 pm
Sorry, I make that 6ft 1 and a half. ;)
8 and a half inches taller than perfection then
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Post by ArmchairDetective » Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:44 pm

Some random twitter journalist 'reporting' that we have agreed a 9m fee for Obafemi. Doubt it.

Apologies if posted already.

https://twitter.com/JohnSDavies_/status ... uxFgw&s=19

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Post by RVclaret » Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:45 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:39 pm
From the Athletic

‘Burnley are also understood to have not given up on prising Michael Obafemi away from Swansea. Despite the clubs being significantly apart in valuations, and Burnley having a bid rejected for the Irish international, there is hope a compromise can be reached.’
Alex James also suggesting Dervisoglu signing not expected to impact the move for Obafemi.

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Post by Selby Claret » Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:45 pm

Dervisoglu photographed on Twitter in Clarets shirt:

https://twitter.com/fanatikcomtr/status ... 1586311168
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Post by Rileybobs » Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:51 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:47 am
It was heiaburnley who asked me a few years ago why I always wrote Gudmundsson rather than Guðmundsson - after that I started writing it correctly as I did with Matěj Vydra. So, I've got to carry that on now.
Why not Jay Rodríguez?

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Post by 1HappyClaret » Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:51 pm

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:53 pm

Swansea based journos saying that we are confident of agreeing a deal for Obafemi

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Post by NewClaret » Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:54 pm

The squad we will end today with will undoubtedly be the strongest in the league imo.

Other teams will arguably have better individuals (Sarr, Pedro, etc) but our depth will be unreal. How we’ll select a bench is beyond me but can see 5 subs being used every game.
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Post by RVclaret » Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:01 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:54 pm
The squad we will end today with will undoubtedly be the strongest in the league imo.

Other teams will arguably have better individuals (Sarr, Pedro, etc) but our depth will be unreal. How we’ll select a bench is beyond me but can see 5 subs being used every game.
Going to be starting 11 quality missing out on the bench.

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Post by eastcoastclaret » Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:08 pm

Another great announcement video

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Post by ClaretTony » Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:13 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:45 pm
Alex James also suggesting Dervisoglu signing not expected to impact the move for Obafemi.
One has no effect on the other at all - I knew one of them was a definite on Monday, still nothing certain on the other.

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