Today's footie 4/9

[SalisburyClaret]

Sheff Utd 1-0 up at Hull.

Goalkeeping error

[taio]

Good chance Rodgers will be out of the door in the next 24 hours or so.

[KRBFC]

Just all over the place at the back

[RVclaret]

Trossard is a lovely player

[wilks_bfc]

Penalty for BHA

Leicester are all over the place.

[Vegas Claret]

Leicester caught 3 or 4 of the Brighton players offside, why should Leicester be punished by an inept linesman? Just because it was a good goal? Clearly offside, clearly interfering with play, the only issue is it took so long for them to get the correct decision.

VAR is there for clear and obvious decisions only, they don't take 4-5 mins to figure out. They are re-officiating the game after the fact and it's ****, give them 3 looks at it and 30 seconds, if they can't see it in that time the on field decision should stand (just like it did pre-var and in the 100+ years of the sport). It was brought in to improve the game like goal line technology has but it's made it a lot worse by how it's being implemented. We know, because they told us, that they don't have the technology to accurately draw the lines at a width that correctly measures off sides - it's pure guess work. It's shite

I was delighted when they brought it in because I'd hoped it would be like goal line tech, but it isn't.
The Cornet goal yesterday was one of the worst decisions yet, never a foul at any level

[burnmark]

4-2 Brighton. Penalty

[Vegas Claret]

I don't see Rodgers lasting long

[ksrclaret]

Brighton looking good and Leicester looking awful.

Can't see Rodgers surviving the autumn.

[taio]

VAR is there for clear and obvious decisions only, they don't take 4-5 mins to figure out. They are re-officiating the game after the fact and it's ****, give them 3 looks at it and 30 seconds, if they can't see it in that time the on field decision should stand (just like it did pre-var and in the 100+ years of the sport). It was brought in to improve the game like goal line technology has but it's made it a lot worse by how it's being implemented. We know, because they told us, that they don't have the technology to accurately draw the lines at a width that correctly measures off sides - it's pure guess work. It's shite

I was delighted when they brought it in because I'd hoped it would be like goal line tech, but it isn't.
The Cornet goal yesterday was one of the worst decisions yet, never a foul at any level

It did take far too long. It could've been made much quicker because it was clearly offside. They reached the correct decision in the end though.

[tiger76]

4-2 great play from Trossard to earn the penalty.

[KRBFC]

VAR is there for clear and obvious decisions only, they don't take 4-5 mins to figure out. They are re-officiating the game after the fact and it's ****, give them 3 looks at it and 30 seconds, if they can't see it in that time the on field decision should stand (just like it did pre-var and in the 100+ years of the sport). It was brought in to improve the game like goal line technology has but it's made it a lot worse by how it's being implemented. We know, because they told us, that they don't have the technology to accurately draw the lines at a width that correctly measures off sides - it's pure guess work. It's shite

I was delighted when they brought it in because I'd hoped it would be like goal line tech, but it isn't.
The Cornet goal yesterday was one of the worst decisions yet, never a foul at any level

I don't like VAR either but that was a 100% correct decision. Not even debatable really, it took them ages to draw the lines, then they consulted the referee to check if the attacker interfered with the play. They didn't need the lines, nor did they need the referee to check. They could've looked at the still image and gave the decision in 10 seconds.

[RVclaret]

Love Brighton’s style of play. This is what I’d hope we could progress to should we make it back. Before people jump on the Brighton have spent ridiculous sums train, Potter’s net spend since appointed is one of the lowest in the league.

[tiger76]

Love Brighton’s style of play. This is what I’d hope we could progress to should we make it back. Before people jump on the Brighton have spent ridiculous sums train, Potter’s net spend since appointed is one of the lowest in the league.

Agreed Brighton have to be the template, sell for big money, but crucially replace with quality.

[Conroysleftfoot]

That's rich, Madison telling somebody to get up when they went down dramatically after a challenge.

[Vegas Claret]

It did take far too long. It could've been made much quicker because it was clearly offside. They reached the correct decision in the end though.

That's the point though, because it wasn't clear and obvious they are choosing to re-officiate it. VAR is for clear and obvious.

[claretburns]

Blackpool leading 1-0 at Huddersfield.

[KRBFC]

That's the point though, because it wasn't clear and obvious they are choosing to re-officiate it. VAR is for clear and obvious.

It was clear and obvious, one look at the still image it was obviously offside.

[ksrclaret]

The thing with Brighton is they buy young players a year or two earlier than they actually need them, usually loan them somewhere, and then they come back to receive some good coaching. They've then got a set of ready-made replacements who already know their system. So many examples like Sanchez, Mac Allister, Caicedo, Mitoma etc.

They've sold White, Burn, Bissouma, Cucurella, and Maupay for about £150m in the last 12 months. Incredible really.

[taio]

That's the point though, because it wasn't clear and obvious they are choosing to re-officiate it. VAR is for clear and obvious.

Not sure 'clear and obvious' is applied to offside. But in any case I thought it was clear and the decision should have been reviewed and corrected in seconds rather than minutes.

[Bosscat]

Dyche to Leicester

[claretburns]

With red card and penalty decisions because the law can be misinterpreted then you can debate what is clear and obvious.

For offsides the rule is just black and white, no grey area, so if it takes 30 seconds or 3 minutes, if a goal has been scored when offside then this is a clear and obvious error.

[Vegas Claret]

It was clear and obvious, one look at the still image it was obviously offside.

if it was clear and obvious the linesman would have stuck his flag up.........but they've been told not because they like re-officiating the game. Not arguing that it was the right or wrong decision, just discussing the inept decision to allow the process to be the way that it is going against everything they said it was for.

What did you think of the Cornet 'goal' yesterday ? (Same question to you Taio)

[RVclaret]

The thing with Brighton is they buy young players a year or two earlier than they actually need them, usually loan them somewhere, and then they come back to receive some good coaching. They've then got a set of ready-made replacements who already know their system. So many examples like Sanchez, Mac Allister, Caicedo, Mitoma etc.

They've sold White, Burn, Bissouma, Cucurella, and Maupay for about £150m in the last 12 months. Incredible really.

Yeah exactly. The next 40/50m+ sale(s) is already there too in Caicedo or Trossard.

[IanMcL]

Lesster

Time for Sean

[Vegas Claret]

With red card and penalty decisions because the law can be misinterpreted then you can debate what is clear and obvious.

For offsides the rule is just black and white, no grey area, so if it takes 30 seconds or 3 minutes, if a goal has been scored when offside then this is a clear and obvious error.

They've already told us the technology isn't good enough to draw pixel perfect lines - so they cannot make accurate decisions - that is mathematical fact. I could link a dozen articles but here's one

https://www.sportbible.com/football/new ... s-20190922

[taio]

if it was clear and obvious the linesman would have stuck his flag up.........but they've been told not because they like re-officiating the game. Not arguing that it was the right or wrong decision, just discussing the inept decision to allow the process to be the way that it is going against everything they said it was for.

What did you think of the Cornet 'goal' yesterday ? (Same question to you Taio)

Clear and obvious only applies to subjective decisions, not offside.

[Vegas Claret]

Clear and obvious only applies to subjective decisions, not offside.

they cannot measure offside accurately

[Hipper]

Red card in today's FA Cup Qualify match at Blackfield:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62783917

Was he exposed at the front?

[Vegas Claret]

When you look at how good this Brighton team is and remember we smashed them on the first day and threw it away and then smashed them in the away game

[Vegas Claret]

Red card in today's FA Cup Qualify match at Blackfield:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62783917

Was he exposed at the front?

he was taking the pi$$

[taio]

they cannot measure offside accurately

It was clear enough with the naked eye with the benefit of the replay.

[taio]

Brilliant from Brighton

[ElectroClaret]

Brilliant strike.

[ksrclaret]

5-2 what a free kick from Mac Allister

[Bosscat]

Oooops Leicester bye bye bye Rodgers

[RVclaret]

Stunning fk

[Vegas Claret]

wow what a free-kick that is

[Conroysleftfoot]

Oh dear Leicester

[ElectroClaret]

Foxes an absolute shambles.

[Vegas Claret]

Leicester missing Kasper Schmiecal's leadership

[tiger76]

Can't see how Rodgers survives this mauling.

[KRBFC]

if it was clear and obvious the linesman would have stuck his flag up.........but they've been told not because they like re-officiating the game. Not arguing that it was the right or wrong decision, just discussing the inept decision to allow the process to be the way that it is going against everything they said it was for.

What did you think of the Cornet 'goal' yesterday ? (Same question to you Taio)

The Linesman got it wrong, he made a clear and obvious error. It was corrected by VAR.

The Cornet decision was a farce, VAR in general is a farce.

[Vegas Claret]

The Linesman got it wrong, he made a clear and obvious error. It was corrected by VAR.

The Cornet decision was a farce, VAR in general is a farce.

the lines I saw they were measuring arms against a foot (and I've just re-seen it and that's what they used), that is not clear and obvious and also, like I've said - they cannot accurately draw the lines, it's not remotely good enough and until they have the technology to be so it's ruining the game.

[Hipper]

In yesterday's game between Aveley and Potters Bar, with the score at 1-1 and in the 91st minute a PB player suffered a bad head injury. As a result an ambulance was called and the match abandoned but the clubs agreed that a replay at Potters Bar was the way forward. These are the second and first teams in the Step 3 Isthmian Premier.

By the way, I saw a bit of Bury vs North Shields yesterday on the BBC Red Button, played at Radcliffe's ground. What a superb quality pitch they have!

[taio]

if it was clear and obvious the linesman would have stuck his flag up.........but they've been told not because they like re-officiating the game. Not arguing that it was the right or wrong decision, just discussing the inept decision to allow the process to be the way that it is going against everything they said it was for.

What did you think of the Cornet 'goal' yesterday ? (Same question to you Taio)

Sorry I missed your question at the end in haste. Cornet's goal should've stood. What's the relevance of that to Brighron disallowed goal?

[taio]

the lines I saw they were measuring arms against a foot (and I've just re-seen it and that's what they used), that is not clear and obvious and also, like I've said - they cannot accurately draw the lines, it's not remotely good enough and until they have the technology to be so it's ruining the game.

But clear and obvious doesn't apply to offside positions. It only applies to subjective decisions. Offside is factual.

[Vegas Claret]

Sorry I missed your question at the end in haste. Cornet's goal should've stood. What's the relevance of that to Brighron disallowed goal?

no worries mate. The relevance is just the nonsense re-officiating of on field decisions - they are looking for reasons to disallow goals and it should be the opposite.

They just said the offside today was given offside by the ref because the VAR couldn't decide if the Brighton player was interfering with play - so that is a subjective decision by the ref and not black and white. It's ruining the game

[Vegas Claret]

But clear and obvious doesn't apply to offside positions. It only applies to subjective decisions. Offside is factual.

it cannot be factual if they cannot measure it accurately - that is undeniable

[KRBFC]

the lines I saw they were measuring arms against a foot (and I've just re-seen it and that's what they used), that is not clear and obvious and also, like I've said - they cannot accurately draw the lines, it's not remotely good enough and until they have the technology to be so it's ruining the game.

3 yards offside, didn't need lines to see how far offside he was. Miles off, clearly interfering with play. No idea why it took so long, maybe they have to draw lines for protocol but they really didn't need them in this instance.