Game postponed

[TheFamilyCat]

from BBC Sport website:
'...Formula 1 is planning a minute's silence with all teams prior to practice on Friday for the Italian Grand Prix, with the race weekend to proceed as planned...'

Which is probably what would happen at an event in the UK if a head of state of competing teams or individuals had died. Possibly even if there weren't any competing.

[Spijed]

from BBC Sport website:
'...Formula 1 is planning a minute's silence with all teams prior to practice on Friday for the Italian Grand Prix, with the race weekend to proceed as planned...'

The Italian Grand Prix has nothing to do with the UK so wouldn't expect them, or any other country to cancel events.

[Big Vinny K]

you can go to the theatre, but not for comedy...that's the best one.
That's about half of Shakespeare's stuff off the menu

Looks like The Lowry are saying all shows are going ahead as planned tonight - including comedy.
That’s how it should be to.
Let individuals make a choice as to whether they are too saddened with grief to attend. That’s what should have happened with sport too.
How can watching somebody hit a golf ball off a tee be disregarded as disrespectful ? Or any more disrespectful than somebody taking there dog for a walk or going fishing ?

One big ego trip for the faceless people making these decisions who are not accountable for explaining the logic behind it.

[tiger76]

Genuine question, and I would like some genuine answers; who on here wouldn't have attended tonight's game as a mark of respect?

If it had have gone ahead as planned I would definitely have attended, but equally others may feel differently as is their right of course.

It's a pain especially having made plans weeks in advance involving accommodation and travel, and if the rearranged fixture is a midweek as expected I might not be able to attend that, but there's no point getting too worked up about it, won't change anything will it, so I'm fairly philosophical regarding the postponement, and at least most far flung fans were informed before they set off on their journeys, I do particularly feel for anyone who's travelled from overseas mind you as a couple reportedly have, that must be a bitter pill to swallow having made all that effort to then find the game not happening, not to mention the financial outlay.

[nil_desperandum]

Everything else isn’t ahead as normal though is it. Lots off today including the test match, Last Night of the Proms off, lots….

Cancelling the Proms is the most ludicrous thing I've heard
It's one of the most patriotic events in the calendar, and the professional musicians could easily have coped if the programme had been adapted a bit in light of events.
It's typical.BBC virtue signalling.
I think it's fair to say our stoical Queen would "not be amused" that such a national event has been cancelled
The National Brass Band Championships are going ahead tomorrow
The Queen was the Patron.

[RVclaret]

https://twitter.com/martynziegler/statu ... -GuxF7lEtw

'Official guidance recommends sports bodies consider cancelling events on day of state funeral but no obligation for other days'

Suggestion that policing could be an issue for football.

[dougcollins]

We're certainly international class at letting people know exactly where they stand.

When does this 'Levelling Up' begin?

[davideyresleftear]

I'm not particularly bothered by the postponement, I can find something else to do on a Friday night if I really wanted to. I don't understand the reasoning, though. What is inherently more respectful about me, instead of going to the football match along with thousands of members of the community, instead spending the night at home watching Cobra Kai?

[Nori1958]

https://twitter.com/martynziegler/statu ... -GuxF7lEtw

'Official guidance recommends sports bodies consider cancelling events on day of state funeral but no obligation for other days'

Suggestion that policing could be an issue for football.

Where's policing been mentioned?

[RVclaret]

Where's policing been mentioned?

Martyn Ziegler replying to his own tweet

‘Policing may yet be an issue for football however. Decision expected in next couple of hours.’

He’s usually quite well informed.

[AlargeClaret]

I'm not particularly fussed that there isn't a Burnley game tonight - Friday nights aren't the best for me. But I suspect the 20,000 football fans who were going to attend tonight's match will be spending their time doing something equally, if not more trivial. From what I've read on here there doesn't seem to be much whinging, but people questioning the logic of tonight's football match being cancelled when everyone can, for example, just go to the pub. I played football about 2 hours after the news last night, everyone turned up and just got on with it as usual.

The fact of the matter is the EFL was scared of appearing insensitive or disrespectful, and this is virtue signalling and not for the common good. You clearly agree with the decision, but let's not accuse others of whinging because that is equally as childish as calling those who agree with the decision serfs or plebs.

We’re not talking about the passing of an ex player /manager or even a PM , we’re talking about the “ biggest “ death in British and virtually world history of the longest serving monarch in British history and almost since records began in ANY history back to the ancients . That our game fell the day after this event is unfortunate. I’d not cancel football as long as respect is shown. Though accusing the EFL of virtue signalling after such a monumental event ?comes across like some soppy arsed soy infused millennial trying to turn his raison d'etre into an attack weapon . Suprised you didn’t fit “ snowflake “ in .However you’re an intelligent poster and not what I’d bracket as the above ,so all the more puzzling .

If you don’t agree with cancellations that’s no problem , antipathy for the Queen , also no issue at all . But to claim
Righteous indignation after such an event is just plain silly imo .

[Nori1958]

Martyn Ziegler replying to his own tweet

‘Policing may yet be an issue for football however. Decision expected in next couple of hours.’

He’s usually quite well informed.

Thanks...... Although I can state 100% that no football has ever been cancelled in Lancashire because of policing elsewhere.

[Big Vinny K]

I'm not particularly bothered by the postponement, I can find something else to do on a Friday night if I really wanted to. I don't understand the reasoning, though. What is inherently more respectful about me, instead of going to the football match along with thousands of members of the community, instead spending the night at home watching Cobra Kai?

You leave Daniel LaRusso out of this.
I have read that the show will pay its respect by bowing to each other before any contests.
A few will also wear black belts to honour the Queen.
Can’t ask for more than that.

[CrosspoolClarets]

There will be major policing needs throughout London in particular in due course as the former Queen lies in state. Feels very impractical to have major sporting events during this period, and we can’t postpone some fixtures but not others. It’s one of those situations where there is no ideal solution, we just have to roll with it.

p.s. I know 3 points aren’t the biggest consideration right now but I expected NCFC to win tonight, with us still developing as a group. It may be a big bonus to us to defer it to another date.

[TopCat]

There will be major policing needs throughout London in particular in due course as the former Queen lies in state. Feels very impractical to have major sporting events during this period, and we can’t postpone some fixtures but not others. It’s one of those situations where there is no ideal solution, we just have to roll with it.

p.s. I know 3 points aren’t the biggest consideration right now but I expected NCFC to win tonight, with us still developing as a group. It may be a big bonus to us to defer it to another date.

Didn't expect us to lose, but believe our chances of a victory on the revised date have increased.

[daveisaclaret]

Wonder if any consideration was given to stewards, programme sellers, hospitality workers and anyone else who might be relying on getting paid for working tonight? You can't pay your bills with respect for the queen.

[RVclaret]

Premier League and EFL set to be off this weekend according to Martyn Ziegler

[Rileybobs]

We’re not talking about the passing of an ex player /manager or even a PM , we’re talking about the “ biggest “ death in British and virtually world history of the longest serving monarch in British history and almost since records began in ANY history back to the ancients . That our game fell the day after this event is unfortunate. I’d not cancel football as long as respect is shown. Though accusing the EFL of virtue signalling after such a monumental event ?comes across like some soppy arsed soy infused millennial trying to turn his raison d'etre into an attack weapon . Suprised you didn’t fit “ snowflake “ in .However you’re an intelligent poster and not what I’d bracket as the above ,so all the more puzzling .

If you don’t agree with cancellations that’s no problem , antipathy for the Queen , also no issue at all . But to claim
Righteous indignation after such an event is just plain silly imo .

I completely understand the gravitas of the queen's death, and I'm not downplaying it. I'm also not showing antipathy for the queen, I have the utmost respect for her, despite not agreeing with the monarchical system (which is irrelevant to my view on this point). I just don't see what is achieved by cancelling a football match that is taking place more than 24 hours after her death. Of course I would expect games to be cancelled on the day of her funeral, that is a totally different matter, but what makes cancelling Friday's games and letting Saturday's go ahead respectful?

I'm using the term 'virtue signalling', because that's exactly what it is. The irony is that this phrase has been bandied about and misused over the last few years, yet the EFL's decision to cancel tonight's game fits the definition to a tee. Banging pans for NHS workers during the Covid pandemic was another example, although these won't sit comfortably with the people who have lazily misused the term in the past.

the action or practice of publicly expressing opinion or sentiments intended to demonstrate one's good character or the moral correctness of one's position on a particular issue

[NewClaret]

Edit: just seen RV’s post.

[Rileybobs]

Wonder if any consideration was given to stewards, programme sellers, hospitality workers and anyone else who might be relying on getting paid for working tonight? You can't pay your bills with respect for the queen.

I did think about this, and it's another example of how this decision does absolutely nothing to benefit the people. At this time of financial hardship and general malaise relating to a number of societal and economical issues, the decision to cancel a leisure activity programmed for the end of a working week is just nonsensical, and will leave people mentally and financially worse off.

[Tall Paul]

Premier League and EFL set to be off this weekend according to Martyn Ziegler

No new information in his article though, nothing has been decided yet.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Games off this weekend both EFL & PL

[RVclaret]

No new information in his article though, nothing has been decided yet.

PL just announced it.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Good luck to those fans in their attempt to recover travel costs etc.

[quoonbeatz]

Competitive sport, no.
Competitive grieving, yes.

There could have been a superb coming together and celebration of the Queen at grounds across the country this weekend. Ridiculous decision.

[lakedistrictclaret]

Games off this weekend both EFL & PL

I believe this to be the correct decision.
However, next week's midweek games and next weekend's games should all go ahead. There are no games scheduled for Monday 19 th, which is the likely date for the funeral.

[forzagranata]

We are in a period of national mourning. Not everyone is obsessed with football. Correct decision IMO.

[quoonbeatz]

Not everyone is obsessed with football.

Probably more people obsessed with football than there are obsessed with the queen. Anyway it's not a competition really is it. The vast majority of people will have woken up today and gone "woah, bit mad yesterday with the queen dying" but they'll be carrying on as normal now.

No reason why all the mourners can't mourn and everyone else can crack on.

[RVclaret]

Sounds to me like the midweek games onwards should be good to go

[Bordeauxclaret]

Cricket and Golf expected to be back on Saturday.
Maybe they just don’t care as much eh.

[RVclaret]

Probably more people obsessed with football than there are obsessed with the queen. Anyway it's not a competition really is it. The vast majority of people will have woken up today and gone "woah, bit mad yesterday with the queen dying" but they'll be carrying on as normal now.

No reason why all the mourners can't mourn and everyone else can crack on.

Not sure you can personally speak for the vast majority Tbf.

[CoolClaret]

Wonder if any consideration was given to stewards, programme sellers, hospitality workers and anyone else who might be relying on getting paid for working tonight? You can't pay your bills with respect for the queen.

Think we all know the answer to this

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

We are in a period of national mourning. Not everyone is obsessed with football. Correct decision IMO.

People have the right to grieve as they see fit. Not sure how cancelling live events affects this?

[pureclaret]

Virtue Signaling is Noticable more often used to say how much you hate something, so I think the term is not the right one for EFL as they say it is for reasons of respect

[quoonbeatz]

Not sure you can personally speak for the vast majority Tbf.

I'm not speaking for them. I'm saying that most people will be cracking on. The vast majority will have huge respect for the queen and recognise its sad news. But they'll also be at work and getting on with life. There's no bank holiday. The world hasn't stopped. We have the capacity to mourn, be respectful and yet still get on with things at the same time.

[forzagranata]

People have the right to grieve as they see fit. Not sure how cancelling live events affects this?

It depends whether we are a serious nation or not.

This is not the same as being upset at a celebrity dying.

[Herts Clarets]

We are in a period of national mourning. Not everyone is obsessed with football. Correct decision IMO.

Not everyone is obsessed with mourning, life goes on for the vast majority. Incorrect decision IMO.

I shall be leaving the office shortly for the train to East Lancashire, first pint on me this evening mate

[Nori1958]

We are in a period of national mourning. Not everyone is obsessed with football. Correct decision IMO.

If you are mourning, don't go to a game, it really is that simple, forced mourning is not a good thing

[claretonthecoast1882]

If you are mourning, don't go to a game, it really is that simple, forced mourning is not a good thing

You aren't being forced to mourn anything or anyone.

[RVclaret]

I wonder if Liverpool being at home played into the decision at all? Wouldn’t be a good look for the PL when videos are everywhere of Anfield booing the national anthem / jeering the minutes silence.

[NottsClaret]

Makes us look ridiculous, proper 3rd world dictatorship nonsense. Really poor decision, just from fear of not looking 'respectful' enough. There's no tradition here either, this is very much a modern world phenomenon, never did it for the last monarch.

Probably cancel kid's grassroots too, which is something I'd probably move from 'vexed' to 'furious' about.

[Marney&Mee]

Makes us look ridiculous, proper 3rd world dictatorship nonsense. Really poor decision, just from fear of not looking 'respectful' enough. There's no tradition here either, this is very much a modern world phenomenon, never did it for the last monarch.

Probably cancel kid's grassroots too, which is something I'd probably move from 'vexed' to 'furious' about.

that's on the cards NottsClaret. Nonsensical really.

[jedi_master]

I wonder if Liverpool being at home played into the decision at all? Wouldn’t be a good look for the PL when videos are everywhere of Anfield booing the national anthem / jeering the minutes silence.

I genuinely think it might have done.

[bfcfan1882]

Makes us look ridiculous, proper 3rd world dictatorship nonsense. Really poor decision, just from fear of not looking 'respectful' enough. There's no tradition here either, this is very much a modern world phenomenon, never did it for the last monarch.

Probably cancel kid's grassroots too, which is something I'd probably move from 'vexed' to 'furious' about.

Grassroots now cancelled.

[NottsClaret]

Grassroots now cancelled.

Genuinely selfish decision that. Putting a desire to look ‘respectful’ over kids health and enjoyment. Who the hell thinks she’d have wanted anything like this?

[TonbridgeClaret]

Non-league games are on, I might nip down to Worthing and watch Tonbridge Angels.

[durhamclaret]

Am I right in thinking that our game at Preston will be going ahead as planned on Tuesday ?

[quoonbeatz]

I wonder if Liverpool being at home played into the decision at all? Wouldn’t be a good look for the PL when videos are everywhere of Anfield booing the national anthem / jeering the minutes silence.

I highly doubt it but if that was a factor, it perfectly encapsulates how this is being done for entirely the wrong reasons.

[forzagranata]

I wonder if Liverpool being at home played into the decision at all? Wouldn’t be a good look for the PL when videos are everywhere of Anfield booing the national anthem / jeering the minutes silence.

And English football’s image as a whole would be tarnished - at home and abroad.

[Spijed]

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