Match Thread - PNE v Burnley

[Noblelight]

Looked good again
Dominated
Just.missing that final push

You are correct, but as I said further up the thread; the only stat that counts is goals; we should of won comfortably
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[tiger76]

Just ignore the troll.

Not a bad point I suppose, but we do need to start turning this dominance into wins.

And a sloppy goal conceded again.

However still only 1 loss in 9, and 7 unbeaten now.

[KRBFC]

Ignore tarkys ears, he’s like this every match, not sure why he bothers watching.

Overall deserved the win and fair play to PNE for defending very well in the second half.

Zaroury looks a very exciting player!

Not sure you can say we deserved to win, we didn't have a shot on target in the 2nd half, barely a shot at all.

[Dodobdobodobo]

Huffed and puffed!! Game there for the taking but an away point,we move on to Saturday.

[Belgianclaret]

I thought Roberts (and Cork) were comfortably our best players tonight. You said Jay Rod was good, I thought he was anonymous. So I guess we watched a different game.

We often do

I agree on Cork though - very decent game again

[karatekid]

Why can’t we score 5 every game and not concede? Oh yeah, the opposition. Imagine them not letting us win. Spoil sports.

[DCWat]

We’ve got to learn how to break teams down. All the possession needs to start meaning something. Quality from out wide was lacking in terms of dangerous balls into the box - though Zaroury and Maatsen made a difference.

We didn’t have anyone operating well enough between their defence and midfield and didn’t stretch them enough to create room for Brownhill or Rodriguez to be more involved.

Zaroury looks like he could be a player, perhaps a good option as a ten.

It’s good but it needs to be much better.

[CryerBFC]

Roberts faded in second, no end product

His crosses were the only ones that looked aimed towards Jay. Other than the usual over hit ones from the rest.

He ran up and down that line all night, at one point he was the furthest man forward winning throw ins on the left wing.

He was unlucky with his header in the first half.

There were definitely worse performances than him tonight, so to single him out, shows he is clearly a scapegoat this season.

[RVclaret]

Lack of tempo was main cause

Though I'd hate to be a season ticket holder at PNE after watching them park the bus at home like that

Tempo was there first half. Created some excellent openings. Second they literally camped in their box, flat back 5. Got in behind a few times with Maatsen and Zaroury but they defended the crosses into the box well all night.

[jedi_master]

Lack of tempo was main cause

Though I'd hate to be a season ticket holder at PNE after watching them park the bus at home like that

All relative though isn’t it - they’ve got no money. They’re a solid side who will comfortably finish in the 12-15th spot which, considering their finances, is decent in a league with as many money strong sides as this.

Their Plan B was a 34 year old Ched Evans ffs!

[jojomk1]

Possession counts for nothing if you can't score the goals

[Zlatan]

Your not a burnley fan

Or a football fan

[Spijed]

Just ignore the troll.

Not a bad point I suppose, but we do need to start turning this dominance into wins.

And a sloppy goal conceded again.

However still only 1 loss in 9, and 7 unbeaten now.

Unbeaten runs are all well and good if we are winning the majority of matches.

We are drawing far too many.

[KRBFC]

We’ve got to learn how to break teams down. All the possession needs to start meaning something. Quality from out wide was lacking in terms of dangerous balls into the box - though Zaroury and Maatsen made a difference.

We didn’t have anyone operating well enough between their defence and midfield and didn’t stretch them enough to create room for Brownhill or Rodriguez to be more involved.

Zaroury looks like he could be a player, perhaps a good option as a ten.

It’s good but it needs to be much better.

Brownhill isn't a 10 at all, not got that cuteness to his passing.

80% possession and not a shot on target is incredible really.

[Boss Hogg]

Easily the better footballing side but offered zero cutting edge tonight and no urgency. All that possession nearly went to waste. The amount of times there was a poor final ball or a backward ball at the end of a really good piece of play was disappointing.

[basil6345789]

Boys playing good possession football in a men's league.

[SussexDon1inIreland]

I thought Preston played like we used to play and tried conter attacks luckily they were poor up front

Cork was outstanding

[Carwin261]

Can’t believe the moaning Minnie’s in the board ,last 4 years have been crap,when was the last time we had a player like Benson in the team , ok his end product needs to improve ,but more excitement than we’ve had for years the PNE fans must have been shitting themselves for most of the 2nd half ,& when was the last time we brought a left winger come in as sub who was so good ,keep the bloody faith.

[gsyclaret]

I don't get the goalkeeper was at fault, he slipped ,simple as, as for the team performance, people slagging off collins should be shot, he was immense tonoght

[Robbo1882]

There is no point in trying to walk the ball into the net when they have 11 players behind the ball, and the speed tempo Burnley press Preston have all the time in the world to make sure they have shape and cover

[jojomk1]

Roberts faded in second, no end product

And what about all the midfielders and strikers in front of him

If you expect Roberts to be our match winner you need to have a good shake of your head

[Billyblah]

Very solid defence PNE, best we’ve faced this year

It's our fifth draw of the season. Defences have quickly figured out Tella and Benson. It's all very intricate wing play. Lots of possesion but with little end product.
Let's hope our most recent signings can start to add an extra dimension.

[bf2k]

Better side but yet again the opposition looked more threatening. It’s all well and God knocking it around the 1st and 2nd third but that’s not where the net is. As soon as we hit the final 3rd it shows down.

[Pommieclaret]

Got to find a way of turning possesion into chances and chances into goals. We had strikers on the bench

[BobbyBoucher]

A rank average match between two rank average mid table teams

I reckon we'll finish 11th...

I backed us to win it as champions and I haven’t seen a thing yet to make me change my mind. The player we are missing is Twine , ie a proper ten . I think given all the new players we are at times playing some superb stuff, tonight was crying out for a ten who can hit one and I think Twine will prove to be that player. All opinions of course

[DCWat]

Brownhill isn't a 10 at all, not got that cuteness to his passing.

80% possession and not a shot on target is incredible really.

I struggle with Brownhill. He’s played really well this season but I’m just not sure he’s the answer to that role and I don’t really see where he fits into this team - bonkers with some of his displays, I know.

I just feel a proper ten with ability to work in tight spaces and best a man would be a much better option.

[Belgianclaret]

His crosses were the only ones that looked aimed towards Jay. Other than the usual over hit ones from the rest.

He ran up and down that line all night, at one point he was the furthest man forward winning throw ins on the left wing.

He was unlucky with his header in the first half.

There were definitely worse performances than him tonight, so to single him out, shows he is clearly a scapegoat this season.

Scapegoat, now that's a first for me then

First half we had more space on the right and rightfully explored that, second half they closed down that side but we kept knocking it back and forth there whilst the space was on the other side. Benson, Brownhill and Roberts were nearly tripping over themselves

[AGENT_CLARET]

PNE boring team and parking the bus at home, no wonder they've drawn 200 games this season, saying that Kompany needs to learn to change tactics mid game to unlock teams like this we hardly got behind their defence all night

[dougcollins]

Still playing at walking pace right up to the edge of the box isn't going to break down many teams.

It's almost like we haven't worked out when to inject the pace.

[LTUK89]

Not sure we need both Cullen and Cork on the pitch in games like these either. Could have done with one of them making runs from deep.

[warksclaret]

Thought that in 10 minutes Maatsen caused more problems in their box than any of our players did all game

[Gunfury]

Disappointed,all that possession and still only scored from a set piece…sloppy goal to concede too…but point away from home,roll onto Saturday

[Belgianclaret]

Not sure we need both Cullen and Cork on the pitch in games like these either. Could have done with one of them making runs from deep.

Yeah, maybe Bastien could have come on

[tiger76]

Unbeaten runs are all well and good if we are winning the majority of matches.

We are drawing far too many.

I don't disagree, draws cost us big time last season also, so it's hardly a new trait.

But it's nowhere near as bad as some are making out, and we are still right in the PO mix.

Though we could have done without that late Sheff Utd goal it's way too early to press the panic button.

Saturday is a big game prior to the international break, win it and it will have overall a pretty decent start to our season, draw or even worse lose, and we'll have made an average start at best.

[Tribesmen]

Look Preston are a limited side but they defended well as anything within 25 yards of their goal they had a handle on it . Sideway and backwards is fine if you are winning but we only looked like we could open them up was when the centre backs ran at them taking the ball from the back .

Anyway no more excusses we got a point .

[Pommieclaret]

Beyer quite comfortable at CH

[Belgianclaret]

Bar that unfortunate slip by Muric, I don't know how they'd have ever scored

[expoultryboy]

So many times tonight , we'd beat a man and then turn to pass it backwards instead of pressing forwards .

[4midable]

We can't all be hardcore 1 month Burnley fans like you

That makes no sense whatsoever
Put your rod back in your cupboard and get some kip

[dougcollins]

We really have let some poor goals in.

[Paddy1882]

I have to say I thought we were superb tonight, maybe could have moved the ball a bit quicker but this is a side with one of the best defences in the country, who sat more or less every man behind the ball and didn’t look to attack at all. Yes we have to find ways to break these teams down but that will come. Take a point and move on.

[RVclaret]

Not sure you can say we deserved to win, we didn't have a shot on target in the 2nd half, barely a shot at all.

What about the first? Better side by a distance and had some decent openings.

Second the final ball was lacking, Maatsen had a couple (credit to him for making the runs) of crosses which needed to go to the back post.

[CryerBFC]

Scapegoat, now that's a first for me then

First half we had more space on the right and rightfully explored that, second half they closed down that side but we kept knocking it back and forth there whilst the space was on the other side. Benson, Brownhill and Roberts were nearly tripping over themselves

So you’ve gone from singling out Roberts, to saying the whole right hand side in the second half, and now Benson, Brownhill and Roberts

I agree with you in the play should have been on the other side, as previously said how Maatsen and Zaroury were the ones who looked like carving an opening.

[RVclaret]

Scapegoat, now that's a first for me then

First half we had more space on the right and rightfully explored that, second half they closed down that side but we kept knocking it back and forth there whilst the space was on the other side. Benson, Brownhill and Roberts were nearly tripping over themselves

The passing on the right is done so it creates space on the left when it eventually gets shifted over. I know it can look slow at times there but late in the second half Zaroury / Maatsen had the space to attack their men, and caused some problems.

[HunterST_BFC]

I thought Preston played like we used to play and tried conter attacks luckily they were poor up front

Cork was outstanding

Pretty much spot on,

Preston will not concede many goals.

Also I feel we will get better... Long season.

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[KRBFC]

I struggle with Brownhill. He’s played really well this season but I’m just not sure he’s the answer to that role and I don’t really see where he fits into this team - bonkers with some of his displays, I know.

I just feel a proper ten with ability to work in tight spaces and best a man would be a much better option.

That's the reason I said a sale could've been a blessing in disguise, providing we reinvested the money of course. Maybe we'll see Brownhill drop next to Cullen when Twine is fit, not sure that really worked at Watford though.

[Belgianclaret]

The passing on the right is done so it creates space on the left when it eventually gets shifted over. I know it can look slow at times there but late in the second half Zaroury / Maatsen had the space to attack their men, and caused some problems.

Yeah, but the space on the left can only be exploited by changing play quickly instead of prodding along on the same side all the time.

Our chances on the left only came after two changes

[CrosspoolClarets]

Boys playing good possession football in a men's league.

Yes but the boys only have 4 mens teams above them. Must mean something.

[CrosspoolClarets]

My worry is that a lot of our fans dislike this style, I enjoy it like chess, but we need that excitement like we get with Maatsen at the end or Benson first half. 7/10 tonight but I find the grumbling a bit strange - we were away in a Lancs derby and totally dominated, we just needed to get ahead again and force them out.

[Noblelight]

Bar that unfortunate slip by Muric, I don't know how they'd have ever scored

Correct, Preston worked hard but they were toothless in my opinion.
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