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Re: Is CT ok ?

Post by KRBFC » Fri Sep 16, 2022 10:44 am

It's the same posters waiting in the shadows to pounce immediately on CT, not sure why, potentially previous banned users with a vendetta.

I could have been banned along time ago when I was new here, I potentially crossed the libel line (I must admit, I wasn't even sure what that was and had to learn) I was also pretty annoying. CT showed great patience with me and I'll always be grateful for that. The petty squabbles follow me around from my past, I guess that comes with my username but I'd like to think I've calmed down a lot and tried to add football opinion in recent times.

All the best Tony, a mental break from this place will probably do you good.
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Re: Is CT ok ?

Post by Tricky Trevor » Fri Sep 16, 2022 11:11 am

Jakubclaret wrote:
Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:11 pm
The board shouldn’t need moderating & that applies to any forum apart from libel incidents which threaten & compromise the integrity, that said if anybody feels under the weather & out of sorts basic decency should wish good health & hopefully bounce back with a spring to their step. Forums should moderate themselves & the greater good to see off anything untowards.
I applaud your sentiment but in this sick, distanced, social media world we live it will never happen. Opinions are opinions, right or wrong, it is the name calling and aggression because someone holds a different view that needs clamping down on.
I repeat my call that bans and the reason for them should be published then we all know the boards parameters and standards.
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Re: Is CT ok ?

Post by FCBurnley » Fri Sep 16, 2022 11:12 am

If CT is taking a break then who if anybody will be overseeing the site and writing reports etc. A lot of people who live abroad ( like me ) use UTC as the main point of club information. Not sure what purpose the site will serve with no updates or controls in place. I understand the need for CT taking a break but with no Editor in place then not sure where the site is heading.

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Re: Is CT ok ?

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Fri Sep 16, 2022 11:19 am

FCBurnley wrote:
Fri Sep 16, 2022 11:12 am
If CT is taking a break then who if anybody will be overseeing the site and writing reports etc. A lot of people who live abroad ( like me ) use UTC as the main point of club information. Not sure what purpose the site will serve with no updates or controls in place. I understand the need for CT taking a break but with no Editor in place then not sure where the site is heading.
BBC News

Sky News

Official Burnley website and so on for the main point of club information, it's not the end of the world.

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Re: Is CT ok ?

Post by mdd2 » Fri Sep 16, 2022 11:23 am

Unusual despite all the abuse he gets for him not to have done a match report
None of us getting younger
Hope he is ok

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Re: Is CT ok ?

Post by randomclaret2 » Fri Sep 16, 2022 11:31 am

mdd2 wrote:
Fri Sep 16, 2022 11:23 am
Unusual despite all the abuse he gets for him not to have done a match report
None of us getting younger
Hope he is ok
Match report now up.

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Re: Is CT ok ?

Post by jdrobbo » Fri Sep 16, 2022 11:33 am

It’s online 👍🏻

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Re: Is CT ok ?

Post by mdd2 » Fri Sep 16, 2022 11:36 am

Phew
Hes ok
May be he is just back from seeing Charles about doing a guest match report
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Re: Is CT ok ?

Post by Steve1956 » Fri Sep 16, 2022 11:43 am

Will this board cease to be when CT gets fed up of the abuse & hassle he gets on here...think about it guys,we would miss it if it was gone,maybe we should all think before we post,and treat each other with a bit more respect and make his job a bit easier.
Remember when the board was down a few times recently how many time did you look to see if it was back up and running?
You never miss anything till its gone.
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Re: Is CT ok ?

Post by Devils_Advocate » Fri Sep 16, 2022 11:57 am

If this board disappeared a new one would naturally come about. When Clarets Mad was on its last legs CT and I think JDRobbo did a lot of secret squirrel stuff in the background to make sure they could get the new board up and running so they could get everyone to their new board and not leave any gap where someone could move quicker and get in first and get the captive audience.

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Re: Is CT ok ?

Post by Middle-agedClaret » Fri Sep 16, 2022 11:57 am

Treating each other with a bit more respect would be very worthwhile. Let’s see how that goes…

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Re: Is CT ok ?

Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Sep 16, 2022 12:03 pm

Middle-agedClaret wrote:
Fri Sep 16, 2022 11:57 am
Treating each other with a bit more respect would be very worthwhile. Let’s see how that goes…
May be difficult, I read on here last week that ‘respect should be earned, it’s not a given’ and it’s something I’ve heard before.

I always thought you should respect everyone and everything unless given a good reason not to. Why do we need to earn it, sounds like something a grandparent would say to you as a child
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Re: Is CT ok ?

Post by ALP » Fri Sep 16, 2022 12:29 pm

After all the work that CT alongside others put in when the Claretsmad board went west, and still continues to do to keep this site the best I am naffed off to read of further abuse. I don't post a lot, part of the reason is the constant one upmanship that take place so often and threads becoming petty squabbles. This board is suffering the same as Claretsmad did all those years ago.

People here need to support CT and the mods, as without this site there will be a lot less information.
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Re: Is CT ok ?

Post by Gunfury » Fri Sep 16, 2022 12:46 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Fri Sep 16, 2022 12:03 pm
May be difficult, I read on here last week that ‘respect should be earned, it’s not a given’ and it’s something I’ve heard before.

I always thought you should respect everyone and everything unless given a good reason not to. Why do we need to earn it, sounds like something a grandparent would say to you as a child
“Those who want respect,give respect”…Tony Soprano :D

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Re: Is CT ok ?

Post by Jakubclaret » Fri Sep 16, 2022 12:47 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Fri Sep 16, 2022 11:11 am
I applaud your sentiment but in this sick, distanced, social media world we live it will never happen. Opinions are opinions, right or wrong, it is the name calling and aggression because someone holds a different view that needs clamping down on.
I repeat my call that bans and the reason for them should be published then we all know the boards parameters and standards.
I guess it all hinges upon how sensible you are as a person & how you react I let a lot go, at my time in my life I can’t be bothered rowing it’s futile & immature, I’d personally let people go hammer & tong & eff & Jeff 24/7 at each other I’d just ignore it & not get involved.

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Re: Is CT ok ?

Post by DCWat » Fri Sep 16, 2022 1:28 pm

I don’t think it helps on here that we see so many posts that are deemed to be ‘a cast’, ‘fishing’ or whatever other term we want to use.

How about not attempting to ‘catch a few’ in the first place and simply putting forward your views that will lead to healthy, respectful and polite debate?

We also see a hell of a lot of name calling / insults bandied about, and from some obviously, reasonably intelligent posters too. It’s a shame that it lead to certain topics not being allowed anymore, but I can see why that needed to be the outcome.

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Re: Is CT ok ?

Post by Chester Perry » Fri Sep 16, 2022 1:36 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Fri Sep 16, 2022 11:12 am
If CT is taking a break then who if anybody will be overseeing the site and writing reports etc. A lot of people who live abroad ( like me ) use UTC as the main point of club information. Not sure what purpose the site will serve with no updates or controls in place. I understand the need for CT taking a break but with no Editor in place then not sure where the site is heading.
I apologise if I have not been clear - CT's break is from posting in threads, not from the articles and administration side as I understand it, he has posted numerous articles over the last couple of weeks, all as valuable as ever. His most notable absence was on the thread discussing the team photo displayed at the Roggerham Gate, normally he would have been heavily involved in such discussion - it is the kind of thing he, like many, love to get to the bottom of

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Re: Is CT ok ?

Post by Hipper » Fri Sep 16, 2022 1:44 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Fri Sep 16, 2022 1:36 pm
His most notable absence was on the thread discussing the team photo displayed at the Roggerham Gate, normally he would have been heavily involved in such discussion - it is the kind of thing he, like many, love to get to the bottom of
I suggest he allows himself the indulgence of posting on such a thread. It should do him good. Just limit himself to those type of posts and not get drawn into the ones that can get heated.

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Re: Is CT ok ?

Post by FCBurnley » Fri Sep 16, 2022 2:22 pm

I assume CT and JDRobbo ‘own’ this site therefore I guess they can control it how they see fit. I guess I have know Tony about 60 years and during that time we have had the odd spat or two ! He can be extremely cantankerous and bloody minded but so can I. But no one can deny the time and effort he puts in. I know I would miss CM if it were to disappear. Perhaps CT should pen a small editorial explaining how he feels and how he would like the site to operate. Then we might all understand what is happening behind the scenes. At the end of the Day we are all huge lifelong supporters of The Clarets ( well most of us are) and that is the reason we frequent this site

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Re: Is CT ok ?

Post by Leisure » Fri Sep 16, 2022 2:32 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Fri Sep 16, 2022 2:22 pm
I assume CT and JDRobbo ‘own’ this site therefore I guess they can control it how they see fit. I guess I have know Tony about 60 years and during that time we have had the odd spat or two ! He can be extremely cantankerous and bloody minded but so can I. But no one can deny the time and effort he puts in. I know I would miss CM if it were to disappear. Perhaps CT should pen a small editorial explaining how he feels and how he would like the site to operate. Then we might all understand what is happening behind the scenes. At the end of the Day we are all huge lifelong supporters of The Clarets ( well most of us are) and that is the reason we frequent this site
Hope you mean Uptheclarets and not CM! :o
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Re: Is CT ok ?

Post by FCBurnley » Fri Sep 16, 2022 2:57 pm

Leisure wrote:
Fri Sep 16, 2022 2:32 pm
Hope you mean Uptheclarets and not CM! :o
Ah yes that’s the one. Lol
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Re: Is CT ok ?

Post by TheFamilyCat » Fri Sep 16, 2022 3:35 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Fri Sep 16, 2022 10:32 am
Again, this is part of the problem, you looked at the username and just jumped on the attack with a snide comment.
Come off it. The biggest troll on the board trying to claim "self-moderation".
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Re: Is CT ok ?

Post by jdrobbo » Fri Sep 16, 2022 3:40 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Fri Sep 16, 2022 2:22 pm
I assume CT and JDRobbo ‘own’ this site therefore I guess they can control it how they see fit. I guess I have know Tony about 60 years and during that time we have had the odd spat or two ! He can be extremely cantankerous and bloody minded but so can I. But no one can deny the time and effort he puts in. I know I would miss CM if it were to disappear. Perhaps CT should pen a small editorial explaining how he feels and how he would like the site to operate. Then we might all understand what is happening behind the scenes. At the end of the Day we are all huge lifelong supporters of The Clarets ( well most of us are) and that is the reason we frequent this site

CT runs the site with technical support from dibradio. I have supported CT with a few issues over the years but the website is his domain; his pride and joy. He’s very devoted and he wants it to work for all. I take zero credit for it. It’s all his work (with big thanks to dibradio too).

There’s loads I’d like to say, but he’s my mate and I know he can speak for himself. Im sure, when he’s ready, he will do just that.

I can though confirm that CT is in good health and still enjoying the football. We were at Preston on Tuesday and will be sat in our usual seats tomorrow, after doing our bit for the foodbank.

That’s what I’d ask people to consider…Tony contributes so much to the club away from his brilliant website:

Annual supporters groups player of the year nights for just a tenner, with food and open access to players and staff.

Player boards around the ground.

Foodbank work.

Work with BFCitC

Work with the Community kitchen

Fundraising dinners (old board)

Fundraising initiatives

Youth development fund


And on and on and on…

Tony doesn’t get a big wage from the site…he could charge a small annual fee and then get the salary he deserved, but he always chooses to make it accessible for as many people as possible. Mods get nowt but don’t ask for anything. We try our best: some of the abuse we get is disgusting.

Tony will always admit to not being perfect…when you see the vitriol that gets posted on other club’s less-moderated forums, you realise how good a job he does and how caring about fellow Burnley fans, he is.


Take care everyone, and look after each other.
J
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Re: Is CT ok ?

Post by Belgianclaret » Fri Sep 16, 2022 4:05 pm

I’d keep quiet for a little while yet CT, by the time the’ s finished with all their praise, they’ll be naming another pub after you 😜
On a serious note: hope all is well with you and a huge thanks & respect to you and everyone running this site.
Besides the occasional negativity I’ve enjoyed a lot of very good threads, laughter & solidarity on ‘your’ site.

High trees catch a lot of wind, so don’t bother about the minority moaners on here.

UTC and UCT 👍🤛🇷🇴
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Re: Is CT ok ?

Post by Longsidelenny1882 » Fri Sep 16, 2022 4:31 pm

Hope this cheers him up long live the king and long live claret Tony upthecolne and uptheclarets

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Re: Is CT ok ?

Post by KRBFC » Fri Sep 16, 2022 4:31 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Fri Sep 16, 2022 3:35 pm
Come off it. The biggest former troll on the board trying to claim "self-moderation".

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Re: Is CT ok ?

Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Fri Sep 16, 2022 4:39 pm

Absolutely Spot On JDRobbo.
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Re: Is CT ok ?

Post by TheFamilyCat » Fri Sep 16, 2022 4:41 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Fri Sep 16, 2022 4:31 pm
The troll comment wasn't aimed at you.

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Re: Is CT ok ?

Post by KRBFC » Fri Sep 16, 2022 4:42 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Fri Sep 16, 2022 4:41 pm
The troll comment wasn't aimed at you.
Nevermind, I'm an idiot. :D

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Re: Is CT ok ?

Post by ClaretPete001 » Fri Sep 16, 2022 5:49 pm

All the best CT. This board is a mine of useful information and much needed at this point in time in the clubs history.

Chin up and "cart on" as they say in these parts.

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Re: Is CT ok ?

Post by LoveCurryPies » Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:21 pm

I’ve always enjoyed ClaretTony’s posts. I honestly don’t know how he put up with moderating this board for so long.

CT I Hope you are well and enjoying our young team!

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Re: Is CT ok ?

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Fri Sep 16, 2022 8:04 pm

jdrobbo wrote:
Fri Sep 16, 2022 3:40 pm
CT runs the site with technical support from dibradio. I have supported CT with a few issues over the years but the website is his domain; his pride and joy. He’s very devoted and he wants it to work for all. I take zero credit for it. It’s all his work (with big thanks to dibradio too).

There’s loads I’d like to say, but he’s my mate and I know he can speak for himself. Im sure, when he’s ready, he will do just that.

I can though confirm that CT is in good health and still enjoying the football. We were at Preston on Tuesday and will be sat in our usual seats tomorrow, after doing our bit for the foodbank.

That’s what I’d ask people to consider…Tony contributes so much to the club away from his brilliant website:

Annual supporters groups player of the year nights for just a tenner, with food and open access to players and staff.

Player boards around the ground.

Foodbank work.

Work with BFCitC

Work with the Community kitchen

Fundraising dinners (old board)

Fundraising initiatives

Youth development fund


And on and on and on…

Tony doesn’t get a big wage from the site…he could charge a small annual fee and then get the salary he deserved, but he always chooses to make it accessible for as many people as possible. Mods get nowt but don’t ask for anything. We try our best: some of the abuse we get is disgusting.

Tony will always admit to not being perfect…when you see the vitriol that gets posted on other club’s less-moderated forums, you realise how good a job he does and how caring about fellow Burnley fans, he is.


Take care everyone, and look after each other.
J
There's not one person who can deny the work Tony puts in, not just on here but elsewhere. He's Burnley mad and we're all better for it.

However, the reasons he comes in for flak is the language he (sometimes) uses, the inconsistent moderating and the way he speaks to certain individuals.

You said that Tony will always admit to not being perfect, well I believe if we saw a bit of that on here then he wouldn't come in for as much flak.

His writings are great, and you don't get a bigger Burnley fan than he, so we should really all be on the same side.

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Re: Is CT ok ?

Post by chipbutty » Fri Sep 16, 2022 11:50 pm

Tony does great work on here, his match reports are fantastic, but his reaction to criticism is not.
Sometimes people are wrong and sometimes people are right and they need to admit either way. Sometimes it's like other people's views don't exist.

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Re: Is CT ok ?

Post by Penwortham_Claret » Sat Sep 17, 2022 12:33 am

There’s one thing for sure, Tony will hate a thread like this, that is about about him.

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Re: Is CT ok ?

Post by Duffer_ » Sat Sep 17, 2022 12:44 am

The mask is slipping on some. A thread that started with genuine concern for the architect of this site is being used by a few to take sideswipes dressed as constructive criticism.

It seems to me like some people want to hold CT to a higher standard of conduct than they accept for themselves. Why is that? Some people seem incapable of making a distinction between a volunteer, who is first and foremost a fan, and a paid professional. That's not to say the answer is for him to become a paid professional, although that is his prerogative if he so chooses, but to celebrate that he does this for the benefit of others. Increasingly it feels like 'everyone's a critic' but few have the ability, energy and passion to create anything as postive as this forum.

Thanks for all you do Tony and I hope you feel better soon.

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Re: Is CT ok ?

Post by Billy Balfour » Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:52 am

There's a massive difference between criticism and a pile-on. Also, I'm sure that I wasn't the only one to notice that this wasn't the first time for a couple of those who joined in. Thing is, I'm sure they too would miss this place if it wasn't here.

I've helped to run a couple of forums in the past and what I've found is that some people will nurse a grudge when sanctioned, and they can't wait to have a go back, whilst hiding it behind mock outrage over some slight comment or other.

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Re: Is CT ok ?

Post by Awayfromburnley » Sat Sep 17, 2022 8:21 am

Prince Charles = Burnley fan

Prince Charles = currently very busy

Prince Charles and CT quite and cantankerous (quoting earlier comments)

Prince Charles and CT both Burnley fans with a lot on their plates

Charles suddenly very busy and CT suddenly very quiet.

See where I am going, anyone ever seen them in the same room?

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Re: Is CT ok ?

Post by Wembley09 » Sat Sep 17, 2022 5:13 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Thu Sep 15, 2022 6:37 pm
As far as I know he is taking a break from posting after a particularly nasty set of exchanges directed at him a couple of weeks back - I have had my own frustrations at times but we have always managed to get through to the other side of them in a sensible fashion. More often than not we communicate off-line, I cannot blame him for keeping away from posting, he is pounced on far too regularly, the pettiness combined with outrageous statements that started very soon into the first lockdown have not gone away and it has detracted from much that this board has and can offer to its many subscribers and readers.

I myself spend much less time on here and feel better for it, and from what I see the same appears to apply to a fair-few others that were regular and valued contributors
Glad to hear he's doing well irl.

I hope it was nothing to do with that Burnley badge nonsense.
I remember him getting some undeserved grief in that thread about changing the badge back and what was the 'original' club badge etc/

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Re: Is CT ok ?

Post by Espia » Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:08 pm

Does anyone know exactly how you leave the messageboard ? I tried in vain. Even emailed the board reps but got no reply.

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Re: Is CT ok ?

Post by Lowbankclaret » Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:12 pm

Espia wrote:
Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:08 pm
Does anyone know exactly how you leave the messageboard ? I tried in vain. Even emailed the board reps but got no reply.
You just delete the browser page it’s on and never search for it again.
Fairly easy really.

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Re: Is CT ok ?

Post by Cooclaret » Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:26 pm

With all the goings on with the succession who do you think should/would take on the board when CT does hang up his mouse?

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Re: Is CT ok ?

Post by Wembley09 » Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:47 pm

Oh my days, now that is more of a quiz question than anything I have ever heard on here.

Well fingers crossed, Tony will be running this site for many more years to come.
He will definitely be around for years to come, but whether he can be arsed to run Clarets Mad mkII for all that time is a different story.

I hope he does though, he's always done an amazing job.
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Re: Is CT ok ?

Post by Burnley1989 » Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:53 pm

Wembley09 wrote:
Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:47 pm
Oh my days, now that is more of a quiz question than anything I have ever heard on here.

Well fingers crossed, Tony will be running this site for many more years to come.
He will definitely be around for years to come, but whether he can be arsed to run Clarets Mad mkII for all that time is a different story.

I hope he does though, he's always done an amazing job.
I’d give it Giggs until the end of the season

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Re: Is CT ok ?

Post by JimmyRobbo » Sat Sep 17, 2022 8:13 pm

It is really very simple.

We are very lucky to have a site like this. We are very lucky to have someone who is a decent soul organising the site. He's a genuine man, a decent sort and has BFC at his heart. I don't understand why anyone would treat one of our own in such a disrespectful way.

All the best CT and thanks for all you do.
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Re: Is CT ok ?

Post by Wembley09 » Sat Sep 17, 2022 8:16 pm

JimmyRobbo wrote:
Sat Sep 17, 2022 8:13 pm
It is really very simple.

We are very lucky to have a site like this. We are very lucky to have someone who is a decent soul organising the site. He's a genuine man, a decent sort and has BFC at his heart. I don't understand why anyone would treat one of our own in such a disrespectful way.

All the best CT and thanks for all you do.
Very well said my man. I couldn't agree anymore!

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Re: Is CT ok ?

Post by Espia » Sun Sep 18, 2022 3:17 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:12 pm
You just delete the browser page it’s on and never search for it again.
Fairly easy really.
That's not really what I meant though (but I guess you knew that). I mean leaving it in the sense of UTC.com deleting your personal data from the Site's databases.

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Re: Is CT ok ?

Post by Steve1956 » Sun Sep 18, 2022 3:53 pm

Espia wrote:
Sun Sep 18, 2022 3:17 pm
That's not really what I meant though (but I guess you knew that). I mean leaving it in the sense of UTC.com deleting your personal data from the Site's databases.
Why oh why would you ever want to leave this most wonderful place?

Serious question.

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Re: Is CT ok ?

Post by JarrowClaret » Sun Sep 18, 2022 4:07 pm

Espia wrote:
Sun Sep 18, 2022 3:17 pm
That's not really what I meant though (but I guess you knew that). I mean leaving it in the sense of UTC.com deleting your personal data from the Site's databases.
Hiya espia

I have no idea how to do it, think it should probably be added agreed although I have no idea what it has to do with the topic. Anyway to make sure the mods notice your request this time I reported your post and request they carry out what you requested.

Hopefully you will get what you want, I did my best😃

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Re: Is CT ok ?

Post by Volvoclaret » Sun Sep 18, 2022 4:17 pm

To all those with negative comments about CT be ashamed. Here's a 96 year old man giving 70 years service to Clarets message boards, more respect please.

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Re: Is CT ok ?

Post by Nori1958 » Sun Sep 18, 2022 4:24 pm

Why are posts being removed, even ones in support of CT?

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