Bellingham

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 3:02 pm

On the assumption Dortmund can't turn down silly money how much do you reckon he will go for ? 150 million ?

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 3:16 pm

Who can afford to pay that with FFP rules?

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 3:25 pm

Difficult to value him, but surely he'll be in the £80-100m bracket.

Clive 1960 · Post by **Clive 1960** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 3:28 pm

Looks like he can become a really great footballer as all the attributes .

4midable · Post by **4midable** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 3:34 pm

City. All day long

Milltown1882 · Post by **Milltown1882** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 4:00 pm

Liverpool - £120-150mil

Pickles · Post by **Pickles** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 4:03 pm

He's doing that, those kinds of performances on a regular basis, at nineteen-years-old. It's bewildering how good he is and how good he can become.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 4:03 pm

Dortmund are trying to get him to sign a new contract with a £150 million release clause.
Current deal runs out in 2025.

Easily worth £100 million, probably closer to £150 million, only 19yrs old and getting better

If he goes to the right club he won't stagnate like Sancho is at Utd.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 5:13 pm

Phenomenal player.

City probably. And over £100m easily. Can’t see Liverpool shelling out those kind of sums. Never have before so can’t see it now.

Milltown1882 · Post by **Milltown1882** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 5:36 pm

bobinho wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 21, 2022 5:13 pm
Phenomenal player.

City probably. And over £100m easily. Can’t see Liverpool shelling out those kind of sums. Never have before so can’t see it now.

They need to. Fabinho, Milner and Henderson aren’t getting any younger. They need at least 2 big big players over the next 2/3 windows in the middle of the park.

Stanbill05 · Post by **Stanbill05** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 5:38 pm

He needs to pick his next move very carefully (or stay put). He needs to be guaranteed to play every game wherever he goes and learn from the Sancho move..

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 5:43 pm

Milltown1882 wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 21, 2022 5:36 pm
They need to. Fabinho, Milner and Henderson aren’t getting any younger. They need at least 2 big big players over the next 2/3 windows in the middle of the park.

Oh I agree, it's just the fee required to get him I think will scare them off. And besides, I don't think BVB to Liverpool is a step up.

Citeh, the two big Spanish clubs and perhaps BM or PSG for this lad I reckon. What a talent he is at only 19.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 5:56 pm

Milltown1882 wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 21, 2022 5:36 pm
They need to. Fabinho, Milner and Henderson aren’t getting any younger. They need at least 2 big big players over the next 2/3 windows in the middle of the park.

Weren't Liverpool linked with De Jong?

Casper · Post by **Casper** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 5:58 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 21, 2022 3:02 pm
On the assumption Dortmund can't turn down silly money how much do you reckon he will go for ? 150 million ?

Can’t make a valuation based on his performance against the worst side in World Cup history.

Jellybean · Post by **Jellybean** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 5:59 pm

Spijed wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 21, 2022 5:56 pm
Weren't Liverpool linked with De Jong?

I thought it was United but funnily enough he really didn't want to move there!

Winstonswhite · Post by **Winstonswhite** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 6:04 pm

His age is irrelevant for me. He’s one of those man childs like Rooney who is old before his years. I’m not sure he can get any better. Brilliant player.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:00 pm

Casper wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 21, 2022 5:58 pm
Can’t make a valuation based on his performance against the worst side in World Cup history.

I'm not, he's been immense in the CL for Dortmund

MDWat · Post by **MDWat** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:24 pm

Bellingham is unreal. He’ll break every England cap record going if he stays injury free, he’s brilliant.

NRC · Post by **NRC** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:38 pm

How about we talk to Lille about Weah? JBG replacement

Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:43 pm

Haaland cost £50 million. Howcan he be worth 2 or 3 times more than that?

Milltown1882 · Post by **Milltown1882** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:50 pm

Stayingup wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:43 pm
Haaland cost £50 million. Howcan he be worth 2 or 3 times more than that?

Because Haaland had a release clause. Real money he’d probably go for £150m+.

Casper · Post by **Casper** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:58 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:00 pm
I'm not, he's been immense in the CL for Dortmund

So why ask the question after an England game

TheOriginalLongsider · Post by **TheOriginalLongsider** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:01 pm

Aren’t Newcastle the richest club in the world now?

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:05 pm

I wonder if Dortmund will be retiring the number 22 shirt.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:09 pm

MDWat wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:24 pm
Bellingham is unreal. He’ll break every England cap record going if he stays injury free, he’s brilliant.

Yes I agree. I’m not sure there’s a 19 year old with more potential in football.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:09 pm

Casper wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:58 pm
So why ask the question after an England game

because Dortmund aren't playing today. Are you always this much fun ?

JarrowClaret · Post by **JarrowClaret** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:52 pm

Casper wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 21, 2022 5:58 pm
Can’t make a valuation based on his performance against the worst side in World Cup history.

Out of interest what is Irans world ranking? I would argue that Qatar are worse and there are many more that I have seen over the years worse than them.

TsarBomba · Post by **TsarBomba** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:10 pm

Managed to get a glimpse of him playing for Birmingham at Charlton when he first broke into the Blues first team.

He was very raw, but the engine and physicality was hugely impressive.

Has everything. Very fortunate he’s English, and a bargain at £150M if you build a team round him for the next 10+ years.

MT03ALG · Post by **MT03ALG** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 11:35 pm

Bellingham should stay with Borussia Dortmund.
Look what happened to Sancho when he left Dortmund for Man Utd. !!

superdimitri · Post by **superdimitri** » Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:14 am

MT03ALG wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 21, 2022 11:35 pm
Bellingham should stay with Borussia Dortmund.
Look what happened to Sancho when he left Dortmund for Man Utd. !!

Look at what happened to Sancho's bank account when he left Dortmund for Man Utd.

To be honest, no one could look at good at Man Utd.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:40 am

Best staying where he is.

Loyal Supporter · Post by **Loyal Supporter** » Tue Nov 22, 2022 7:48 am

JarrowClaret wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:52 pm
Out of interest what is Irans world ranking? I would argue that Qatar are worse and there are many more that I have seen over the years worse than them.

You managed to post on an Internet message board but can't find Iran's FIFA ranking?

Casper · Post by **Casper** » Tue Nov 22, 2022 7:59 am

JarrowClaret wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:52 pm
Out of interest what is Irans world ranking? I would argue that Qatar are worse and there are many more that I have seen over the years worse than them.

Not my thoughts but resident football expert Vegas

SouthLondonexile · Post by **SouthLondonexile** » Tue Nov 22, 2022 8:46 am

He should stay where he is , and develop. JB is one hell of a talent.
I thought that Marcus Rashford made a big difference.
I notice too he has bulked up his upper body.
We have an array of young talent in the squad.

Rumbletonk · Post by **Rumbletonk** » Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:51 am

Casper wrote: ↑
Tue Nov 22, 2022 7:59 am
Not my thoughts but resident football expert Vegas

In fairness to Vegas your comments on this topic are annoying

Cheshireclaret · Post by **Cheshireclaret** » Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:27 pm

JarrowClaret wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:52 pm
Out of interest what is Irans world ranking? I would argue that Qatar are worse and there are many more that I have seen over the years worse than them.

Iran are ranked 20th, the lowest ranked team in our group which is actually the toughest in the tournament, solely based on FIFA World Rankings :-

England (5)
USA (16)
Wales (19)
Iran (20)

Of course, it's a whole other debate as to whether the FIFA World Rankings are accurate or even worth the paper they're written on.........

JarrowClaret · Post by **JarrowClaret** » Tue Nov 22, 2022 3:34 pm

Loyal Supporter wrote: ↑
Tue Nov 22, 2022 7:48 am
You managed to post on an Internet message board but can't find Iran's FIFA ranking?

Yep, I blame lazyness

Casper · Post by **Casper** » Tue Nov 22, 2022 6:02 pm

Rumbletonk wrote: ↑
Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:51 am
In fairness to Vegas your comments on this topic are annoying

Thanks

Stanbill05 · Post by **Stanbill05** » Sat Nov 26, 2022 6:40 am

Everyone is capable of a bad game especially when the rest of the team and tactics aren't helping, but this performance is exactly why he should stay at Dortmund for a few more years. He isn't the finished product yet (despite the hysteria after the Iran game) and is droppable in a top top team, which is the last thing he needs.

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Sat Nov 26, 2022 7:28 am

Overhyped, anonymous against USA and needs to be more active when needed. He was expected to become a big player in cm for England not dissappear.
Grealish did more in his cameo role yesterday

SouthLondonexile · Post by **SouthLondonexile** » Sat Nov 26, 2022 8:19 am

A wonderful player who was mobbed last night by the USA.
Every time there was an opportunity to do so, he was casually pushed by the opposition. Needed protection.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Nov 26, 2022 9:04 am

Bellingham a good young players, still very much learning. Consistency not there yet. Others more nature and better.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Nov 26, 2022 9:08 am

Bellingham is an outstanding young player who struggled last night in a woeful, snail paced all round performance. No more to it than that.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sat Nov 26, 2022 9:19 am

Bellingham was poor last night, but he wasn't alone in having an off night, and the US clearly targeted him for some rough treatment, however that's something he'll need to get used to I'm afraid.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Sat Nov 26, 2022 9:26 am

The way I saw the game was The USA had a game plan and it worked ... there are few teams that are easy to beat at a World Cup ... Wales on paper should have wiped the Floor with Iran ... Argentina got turned over by The Saudi team ... Germany by Japan ...

A draw wasn't a bad result in the greater scheme of things ...

Bellingham is young ... he will be a force in the long term ... give the lad a chance

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Nov 26, 2022 9:29 am

Pedri is on a different level to the rest of these youngsters

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Nov 26, 2022 9:30 am

KRBFC wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 26, 2022 9:29 am
Pedri is on a different level to the rest of these youngsters

Different type of player to be fair. He is elite though.

Him, Bellingham and Musiala the 3 elite breakthrough talents right now.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Dec 05, 2022 1:25 am

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Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Mon Dec 05, 2022 8:00 am

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 26, 2022 9:30 am
Different type of player to be fair. He is elite though.

Him, Bellingham and Musiala the 3 elite breakthrough talents right now.

Foden must be in there or is he a bit more advanced in his development for this.

The run last night to set the goal us was prime Maradona. Slight off balance at pace, just knicking the ball off the opponent with the left foot.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Mon Dec 05, 2022 8:03 am

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 05, 2022 8:00 am
Foden must be in there or is he a bit more advanced in his development for this.

The run last night to set the goal us was prime Maradona. Slight off balance at pace, just knicking the ball off the opponent with the left foot.

Yeah at 22 he's now a veteran compared to the aforementioned teenagers.

Agree though, he's absolutely superb - played a big role in unlocking them for the first too.