ENG v FRA

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:46 pm

boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:40 pm
I think Pickford was out of position, simple as that.

Possibly. Once it had gone through Bellingham he had a clear view so I don't understand Dixon's point and he's repeated it several times.

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:46 pm

I think id put grealish on in middle

Mala591 · Post by **Mala591** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:49 pm

Our players are scared of being creative and taking on responsibility

Expect a dramatic change in the second half

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:49 pm

Just **** off ref, it's not a head injury

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:50 pm

Can’t complain much at that half. We’ve edged the game and they’ve scored a long distance strike. Good to see England making the World Champions camp in their own half. Mbappe has done f*** all.

Vino blanco · Post by **Vino blanco** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:50 pm

We are too slow and pedestrian in midfield with Henderson and Rice. Changes needed there at half time.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:51 pm

Goalposts wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:44 pm
I’m not a Henderson fan but he is looking to get forward, rice for me is looking a bit lost

Both Rice and Foden might as well be selling the programmes.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:51 pm

Not what we hoped for 1st half and France deserve their lead, thankfully it's only 1-0 so we're still in the game, but a big half time team talk for Gareth to change the flow of this game.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:51 pm

FIFA desperate for a Messi and Mbappe final, truly horrific officiating

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:52 pm

Vino blanco wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:50 pm
We are too slow and pedestrian in midfield with Henderson and Rice. Changes needed there at half time.

Agree , whilst Henderson has been better than rice, you probably would take him off for grealish and rice just concentrates on holding role, but he neeeds to up his game

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:52 pm

Rice has the ability to drive with the ball, the problem is if he vacates that space we're in huge trouble on the break.

Lowbankclaret · Post by **Lowbankclaret** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:52 pm

It was a foul in the build up to the France . It was a Penatly.

Just remember earlier in the WC when the keepers finger tips touched a player, that was a pen. Worst decision by VAR in history, but they set the bar.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:52 pm

Oh and this ref is absolutely pathetic. Stopping the game when it’s not a head injury at the end there sums up his half.

beddie · Post by **beddie** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:52 pm

We need Grealish on to go at them. We can still win this.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:53 pm

tiger76 wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:51 pm
Not what we hoped for 1st half and France deserve their lead, thankfully it's only 1-0 so we're still in the game, but a big half time team talk for Gareth to change the flow of this game.

France deserve the lead? come off it they've done **** all, was a clear foul in the build up and it's a clear foul on Kane.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:54 pm

tiger76 wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:51 pm
Not what we hoped for 1st half and France deserve their lead, thankfully it's only 1-0 so we're still in the game, but a big half time team talk for Gareth to change the flow of this game.

How the balls do they deserve their lead? They’ve offered absolutely nothing.

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:55 pm

Saka having a shocker so far, gets the ball and freezes, like he is nervous. Had it a lot, so could have made a difference if he was more dynamic.

Foden suffered being told to hug the touchline. Once he roamed into that no 10 role he gave tempo and purpose to our attacks, always looking to shift it quickly. He is the key if we are to win. As is Kane, who looks right up for it.

Tough against 12 men though (13 if you count VAR) but we have had that a lot in recent decades.

Boss Hogg · Post by **Boss Hogg** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:55 pm

Far too slow for me first half. I’d bring Rashford on.

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:55 pm

It's basically France + officials 1 England 0

alwaysaclaret · Post by **alwaysaclaret** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:55 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:17 pm
Incredible strike. What can you do about that?

Put nick pope in the nets, wouldn't have been beaten from there

Carwin261 · Post by **Carwin261** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:55 pm

Might be a top goal scorer ,but still think Kanes a diver,& how many times do we have the ball on the halfway line,& it’s either Maguire ,or Henderson,our 2 least creative players with the ball,not knowing what to do with it.

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:55 pm

Could be just what England need being behind at half time, prevents Southgate from getting defensive.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:56 pm

alwaysaclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:55 pm
Put nick pope in the nets, wouldn't have been beaten from there

Nah sorry that’s just typical Burnley fans goggles, I saw Pope concede many of them for us

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:56 pm

That is a clear foul on Saka, 20 seconds later the ball is in the net

HahaYeah · Post by **HahaYeah** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:57 pm

The game is crying out for Grealish .Otherwise it's the Mbappe v Messi hype
final that FIFA would want.

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:57 pm

Pickford should hav done far better watching that back

1882Clarets1882 · Post by **1882Clarets1882** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:57 pm

Showing far far too much respect to France.

England aren't taking them on and seeing what they're made of defensively wise. England need to be braver and at least force a foul out of them.

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:58 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:52 pm
Oh and this ref is absolutely pathetic. Stopping the game when it’s not a head injury at the end there sums up his half.

This ref has been poor but to be fair, if you watch it back it is Bellingham, who made the challenge, telling the ref to stop the game.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:59 pm

What are the pundits seeing that makes them think it was a penalty?

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:59 pm

Mbappe has been a bit quieter than usual but him along with Griezmann have been the best players on the park by far.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:59 pm

wilks_bfc wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:59 pm
What are the pundits seeing that makes them think it was a penalty?

It's a stone waller, he's pulling his shirt the moment he kicks Kane it's a peno

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:00 pm

alwaysaclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:55 pm
Put nick pope in the nets, wouldn't have been beaten from there

Wouldn't make a bit of difference to how we deal with Griezman, wouldn't alter our pedestrian approach to creativity.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:01 pm

KRBFC wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:59 pm
It's a stone waller, he's pulling his shirt the moment he kicks Kane it's a peno

Isn’t it outside the box?

Pickles · Post by **Pickles** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:02 pm

France were the better side that half.

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:02 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:55 pm
Saka having a shocker so far, gets the ball and freezes, like he is nervous. Had it a lot, so could have made a difference if he was more dynamic.

Foden suffered being told to hug the touchline. Once he roamed into that no 10 role he gave tempo and purpose to our attacks, always looking to shift it quickly. He is the key if we are to win. As is Kane, who looks right up for it.

Tough against 12 men though (13 if you count VAR) but we have had that a lot in recent decades.

Yes i was wondering that about foden , did he just decide todo it himself as he knows that’s where he’s best, against maybe southgates instruction.

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:02 pm

As an attacking threat, we are too slow.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:03 pm

Pickles wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:02 pm
France were the better side that half.

No they weren't, lower XG, less shots, less corners, less possession.

Lowbankclaret · Post by **Lowbankclaret** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:03 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:55 pm
Saka having a shocker so far, gets the ball and freezes, like he is nervous. Had it a lot, so could have made a difference if he was more dynamic.

Foden suffered being told to hug the touchline. Once he roamed into that no 10 role he gave tempo and purpose to our attacks, always looking to shift it quickly. He is the key if we are to win. As is Kane, who looks right up for it.

Tough against 12 men though (13 if you count VAR) but we have had that a lot in recent decades.

Agreed Saka looks like a rabbit in the headlights each time he gets the ball. Been defensively ok.

Bazer1882 · Post by **Bazer1882** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:03 pm

Thought you started playing walking football at 60 and older

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:03 pm

The French know what they are doing, our creative players are closed down,the like of Henderson then clueless.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:03 pm

KRBFC wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:59 pm
It's a stone waller, he's pulling his shirt the moment he kicks Kane it's a peno

If it was inside the area I’d agree but it’s outside the line

conyoviejo · Post by **conyoviejo** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:03 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:50 pm
Can’t complain much at that half. We’ve edged the game and they’ve scored a long distance strike. Good to see England making the World Champions camp in their own half. Mbappe has done f*** all.

Of course we can complain.A foul leading up to their goal.
Pick ford should have saved it
We have a certain penalty turned down.

fatboy47 · Post by **fatboy47** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:04 pm

Pickles wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:02 pm
France were the better side that half.

This.

And never a penalty as long as I've a hole in my arse.

Or a free kick.

Pickles · Post by **Pickles** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:04 pm

KRBFC wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:03 pm
No they weren't, lower XG, less shots, less corners, less possession.

They were the better side that half.

HahaYeah · Post by **HahaYeah** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:04 pm

England need to be more DIRECT.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:04 pm

fatboy47 wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:04 pm
This.

And never a penalty as long as I've a hole in my arse.

Or a free kick.

Not a free kick? Lol.

Didn’t you say you weren’t watching any of this? Funny that.

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:05 pm

Impossible to say who was better, France or England, as one was chasing and one holding since the goal.

Their defence though looks ropey as heck when we up the tempo. Just need to do it more. With Walker and Shaw under orders not to push up too much, Bellingham has to push up instead. Creativity needed.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:05 pm

Pickles wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:04 pm
They were the better side that half.

Disagree. And I normally agree with you on football.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:05 pm

Bazer1882 wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:03 pm
Thought you started playing walking football at 60 and older

You cant play forward at 100mph wide open against a deep compact France defence who are looking to counter.

Mala591 · Post by **Mala591** » Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:05 pm

Come on let’s be honest that first half was bloody awful