Man Utd v Burnley match thread

Pickles · Post by **Pickles** » Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:53 pm

The big revolution for us, and it's been the case for years, is for us to sign some real pure athleticism in the middle of the pitch. We needed it for most of Dyche's tenure and although the transformation under Kompany has been thorough, canny and successful - some height, strength and general physical presence in midfield would be an enormous addition. Especially vital if and when we make it back to the Premier League.

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:53 pm

Nottingham Forest beat Blackburn 4, 1

NottsClaret · Post by **NottsClaret** » Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:53 pm

No one has played badly, just a little reminder of the gulf that exists. Bit of a training session vibe at time.

We’re a good Championship team, they’re a good Premier League team, it’s played out exactly as you’d imagine really and that’s not a criticism.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:53 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:51 pm
I must be watching a different game, I thought he’s been tidy but struggled to get around the pitch against such athletic midfielders.

He’s a very intelligent player and will make the step up.

A combative, athletic CM needed next to him to make up for his lack of physicality.

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:53 pm

Vino blanco wrote: ↑
Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:51 pm
Is there any chance you could try and speak in English?

Or with any degree of intellect and thought

JohnDearyMe · Post by **JohnDearyMe** » Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:54 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:51 pm
I must be watching a different game, I thought he’s been tidy but struggled to get around the pitch against such athletic midfielders.

Agreed. Overshadowed by the opposition and failed to impose himself as much as he does in the championship

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:55 pm

Sounds a bit like we created some good chances but couldn't put them away. Maybe we do need a striker in the window.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:55 pm

Pleased with that performance. Some really good play from us and missed some big chances (that you have to take at these places). Lots of good individual performances.

Tricky Trevor · Post by **Tricky Trevor** » Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:55 pm

Not unhappy with that. Many really good displays and moments, that deserved a goal. A few things that need cleaning up if this team is to stay together for the PL. Speed of thought and speed of pass being the top two.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:55 pm

Decent enough display just lacking that real quality when it mattered, but no disgrace losing 2-0 at Old Trafford.

JohnDearyMe · Post by **JohnDearyMe** » Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:55 pm

Pickles wrote: ↑
Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:53 pm
The big revolution for us, and it's been the case for years, is for us to sign some real pure athleticism in the middle of the pitch. We needed it for most of Dyche's tenure and although the transformation under Kompany has been thorough, canny and successful - some height, strength and general physical presence in midfield would be an enormous addition. Especially vital if and when we make it back to the Premier League.

Very good shout. Have we been linked with anyone of that ilk since Kompany has been here? I'm sure that profile is in high demand

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:55 pm

Alan Pace was talking about finding a new striker. Sell Barnes to Mousehole FC and that would be good.

SussexDon1inIreland · Post by **SussexDon1inIreland** » Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:55 pm

Marney just repeats Burnley have the best fans

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:56 pm

Good competitive game that, no disgrace we held our own for large parts, missed some glaring chances, couple of sloppy mistakes and a moment of real quality was the difference. Shame we were missing a few key players but a good experience for the team.

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:56 pm

How strange Dyche commentating on Burnley

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:56 pm

LoveCurryPies wrote: ↑
Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:55 pm
Alan Pace was talking about finding a new striker. Sell Barnes to Mousehole FC and that would be good.

No.1 priority in summer

Casper · Post by **Casper** » Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:56 pm

Hoping Benson is ok

SussexDon1inIreland · Post by **SussexDon1inIreland** » Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:56 pm

Bring on Birmingham

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:57 pm

Tarkys_ears is a real gobshite.

Clear off you miserable two hat.

gsyclaret · Post by **gsyclaret** » Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:57 pm

tarkys_ears wrote: ↑
Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:44 pm
1 on target Vs about 5 very good chances

How are we still at this mentally disabling point where even our new boys are bottlers?

I can't resist this anymore, we were playing against a very good premier league team, \re you a Burnley supporter ?

tarkys_ears · Post by **tarkys_ears** » Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:57 pm

The fact that we weren't 6-0 down by 20 mins leads some of the bigger nobheads on here to think that we were somehow still in it.

The level of bottling, complete lack of skill, responsiveness and pace from the likes of Brownhill and Cork and just basic mistakes from the likes of THB shows the gulf between the two sides.

This was a bang average man utd team yet we couldn't get near them, furthermore when they decide to break, they leave out entire team standing in their wake.

Go on about VK and his great job etc but go to the thread about how we will fare in the PL and at this rate, it's plain to see.

Thank **** VK didn't play muric. Clearly trying to keep his morale up, it would hav been a 5-0 today so at least he's avoided this trauma.

Oh well, back to the championship....

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:58 pm

Casper wrote: ↑
Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:56 pm
Hoping Benson is ok

That's the most important thing from tonight/

Croydon Claret · Post by **Croydon Claret** » Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:58 pm

tarkys_ears wrote: ↑
Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:53 pm
Dogshit.

Absolute joke.

Nothing offered at all. How can we still be stuck at the mid-dyche point after all this time?

Being relegated and losing most of our established Premier League players set us back to the the pre Dyche era.

We're doing really well in our first year if recovery if you think we're mid Dyche already

Conroysleftfoot · Post by **Conroysleftfoot** » Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:59 pm

tarkys_ears wrote: ↑
Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:53 pm
Dogshit.

Absolute joke.

Nothing offered at all. How can we still be stuck at the mid-dyche point after all this time?

Sorry mate but not too sure which team you support.

AGENT_CLARET · Post by **AGENT_CLARET** » Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:59 pm

This game shows us who we need to keep and who we need to release when we go up

Pickles · Post by **Pickles** » Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:59 pm

JohnDearyMe wrote: ↑
Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:55 pm
Very good shout. Have we been linked with anyone of that ilk since Kompany has been here? I'm sure that profile is in high demand

Yes. Seko Fofana of Lens last summer.

Ampth7 · Post by **Ampth7** » Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:59 pm

Only thing I’m interested in now is Benson’s injury. Fingers crossed big time!!

Casper · Post by **Casper** » Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:59 pm

tarkys_ears wrote: ↑
Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:57 pm
The fact that we weren't 6-0 down by 20 mins leads some of the bigger nobheads on here to think that we were somehow still in it.

The level of bottling, complete lack of skill, responsiveness and pace from the likes of Brownhill and Cork and just basic mistakes from the likes of THB shows the gulf between the two sides.

This was a bang average man utd team yet we couldn't get near them, furthermore when they decide to break, they leave out entire team standing in their wake.

Go on about VK and his great job etc but go to the thread about how we will fare in the PL and at this rate, it's plain to see.

Thank **** VK didn't play muric. Clearly trying to keep his morale up, it would hav been a 5-0 today so at least he's avoided this trauma.

Oh well, back to the championship....

tarkys_ears · Post by **tarkys_ears** » Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:59 pm

Croydon Claret wrote: ↑
Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:58 pm
Being relegated and losing most of our established Premier League players set us back to the the pre Dyche era.

We're doing really well in our first year if recovery if you think we're mid Dyche already

Early dyche was far more advanced than mid dyche so I don't get your point

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:59 pm

Decent showing with half of Kompany’s preferred XI missing/rested

Conroy92 · Post by **Conroy92** » Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:00 pm

We could have got something from that game, which is both a positive and a negative.

Conroysleftfoot · Post by **Conroysleftfoot** » Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:00 pm

tarkys_ears wrote: ↑
Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:57 pm
The fact that we weren't 6-0 down by 20 mins leads some of the bigger nobheads on here to think that we were somehow still in it.

The level of bottling, complete lack of skill, responsiveness and pace from the likes of Brownhill and Cork and just basic mistakes from the likes of THB shows the gulf between the two sides.

This was a bang average man utd team yet we couldn't get near them, furthermore when they decide to break, they leave out entire team standing in their wake.

Go on about VK and his great job etc but go to the thread about how we will fare in the PL and at this rate, it's plain to see.

Thank **** VK didn't play muric. Clearly trying to keep his morale up, it would hav been a 5-0 today so at least he's avoided this trauma.

Oh well, back to the championship....

Wow

Ampth7 · Post by **Ampth7** » Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:00 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote: ↑
Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:59 pm
This game shows us who we need to keep and who we need to release when we go up

I suspect VK knew the answers to those questions prior to this evening!

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:01 pm

tarkys_ears wrote: ↑
Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:53 pm
Dogshit.

Absolute joke.

Nothing offered at all. How can we still be stuck at the mid-dyche point after all this time?

Are you on drugs?

karatekid · Post by **karatekid** » Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:01 pm

It would have been different with with AZ, Tella and jrod in the starting line up if possible. But I’m not too dismayed. The championship is the money game.

claptrappers_union · Post by **claptrappers_union** » Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:02 pm

We played well. Brave performance but the better team won with their quality. Losing Benson is a concern. Good to see we’re going toe to toe tactically against teams like Man Utd though

Swizzlestick · Post by **Swizzlestick** » Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:02 pm

Tarky’s ears is the same poster who was writing off Kompany and his style of play a few months back. Thick as pigshit.

Thought we did alright there. Should’ve scored at least one. Some silly things to work on but lots to build on.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:02 pm

Just ignore that tarkys head fellow. He’s like this every time we don’t win 5-0. Really odd bloke and I don’t understand why he bothers, clearly can’t handle any emotion, doesn’t seem suited to football.

gsyclaret · Post by **gsyclaret** » Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:03 pm

Conroysleftfoot wrote: ↑
Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:00 pm
Wow

Could have thought of a better quote

Ampth7 · Post by **Ampth7** » Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:03 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑
Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:01 pm
Are you on drugs?

If that’s the case, I don’t want whatever he’s on!

Casper · Post by **Casper** » Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:04 pm

claptrappers_union wrote: ↑
Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:02 pm
We played well. Brave performance but the better team won with their quality. Losing Benson is a concern. Good to see we’re going toe to toe tactically against teams like Man Utd though

Please don’t use “toe to toe”

Conroy92 · Post by **Conroy92** » Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:05 pm

To be honest a decent showing for the most part, although I did think a few of our key performers this season didn't have there best showings. On another day we could have got a result, Barnes had three big chances alone and Churlinov one. That being said, Man United weren't at there best either.

claptrappers_union · Post by **claptrappers_union** » Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:05 pm

Don’t feed the troll

Tribesmen · Post by **Tribesmen** » Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:05 pm

Yep beaten by a better team with better players tonight , not that worried as did quite well in parts but not to be tonight .

SussexDon1inIreland · Post by **SussexDon1inIreland** » Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:06 pm

Bring on Birmingham

Carwin261 · Post by **Carwin261** » Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:06 pm

If your a big club player you can scythe players down Antonio ,or you can deliberately kick a player twice Fernandes ,and not get sent off,forgot how many prima donnas there were at Old Trafford.

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:07 pm

Pickles wrote: ↑
Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:39 pm
A little surprised at some of the comments here. I think we've played well.

It's not that surprising if you look at the posting history of the users who's comments surprise you

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:07 pm

Positives:

Benson looks great even at this level.
Beyer and Maatsen both looked surprisingly comfortable against international forwards.
Midfield had a good game.

Negatives:

A striker has to be a priority on promotion.
Thought Harwood was quite poor and Brownhill looked miles off it.

Enjoyable game and a lot to take from it. Think it’s quite clear the areas we need to improve on if we get promoted.

SussexDon1inIreland · Post by **SussexDon1inIreland** » Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:07 pm

I still think Ash was unlucky he only had a split second to shoot

Pickles · Post by **Pickles** » Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:09 pm

Damo wrote: ↑
Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:07 pm
It's not that surprising if you look at the posting history of the users who's comments surprise you

Yeah, surprised was the wrong word. I'm not surprised.