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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:15 am

aggi wrote:
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I was pretty surprised to discover that Manuel Benson is 5'10"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manuel_Benson
I’m not having that, 5ft10 in roller blades perhaps
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:35 am

he's 5'7

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Guller Bull » Fri Jan 06, 2023 7:57 am

So Long out - Possibly McNally out on loan. Potentially Ameen Al-Dhakeel in permanently.

THB and JB here for the rest of the season with cover from AAD, Egan Riley and Charlie.

Hopefully one or both of THB and JB will be here for another year either on load or ideally permanent.

Is it likely Charlie will move on in summer? but that would still leave us cover with McNally, Egan Riley, AAD and McNally. Not sure where they are in terms of stepping up to the big league. Might need playing time towards the end of this season to establish that.

All "ifs and buts" again but the options look better.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by jedi_master » Fri Jan 06, 2023 8:49 am

Ameen Al-Dakhil is apparently set to join us, according to 'Le Soir'

https://www.lesoir.be/487127/article/20 ... tterSports

Article translated:

HasMeen Al-Dakhil could not have played Sint-Truiden – Standard, on September 9, if the Limburg club had accepted the check of 3.5 million offered a few days earlier, at the very end of the transfer window, by Burnley, the club coached by Vincent Kompany who had called him in person to convince him, without too much difficulty, to continue his career in the English Championship. But in the absence of agreement on the amount of the transfer fee, set by Sint-Truiden at 5 million, the operation had not been able to be realized.

History loving to iron the dishes, it is again before a clash against Standard, scheduled this Friday in Sclessin, that Burnley, leader in the Championship and ideally placed to join in a few weeks the Premier League, has returned to the charge. With even more arguments, Kompany has always been impressed by the enormous potential of the young (20-year-old) Belgian-Iraqi central defender who, unlike Christian Brüls, who signed Thursday, as planned, a 2.5-year contract at Zulte Waregem, should be present tonight on the banks of the Meuse before leaving the Stayen.

It would certainly be a special moment for Ameen Al-Dakhil, who at the beginning of last season had made a name for himself at Standard, under the direction of Mbaye Leye, before counting less in the eyes of Luka Elsner and being sent to Sint-Truiden for an amount of 500,000 euros, as a bargaining chip to settle the debt that president Bruno Venanzi had vis-à-vis Sint-Truiden in the context of the Junior Edmilson affair.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Guller Bull » Fri Jan 06, 2023 8:56 am

jedi_master wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 8:49 am
History loving to iron the dishes,
That's a belter!
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by HiThere » Fri Jan 06, 2023 8:59 am

Guller Bull wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 7:57 am
So Long out - Possibly McNally out on loan. Potentially Ameen Al-Dhakeel in permanently.

THB and JB here for the rest of the season with cover from AAD, Egan Riley and Charlie.

Hopefully one or both of THB and JB will be here for another year either on load or ideally permanent.

Is it likely Charlie will move on in summer? but that would still leave us cover with McNally, Egan Riley, AAD and McNally. Not sure where they are in terms of stepping up to the big league. Might need playing time towards the end of this season to establish that.

All "ifs and buts" again but the options look better.
McNally doesn't seem to be near the first team even in the Championship, so if we go up he'd have had to go from League 1 to the Premier League. From the outside looking in it looks like we signed him as we thought he could make the step up but have since decided otherwise.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Tricky Trevor » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:17 am

jedi_master wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 8:49 am
Burnley, leader in the Championship and ideally placed to join in a few weeks the Premier League.
I love that line.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Guller Bull » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:20 am

HiThere wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 8:59 am
McNally doesn't seem to be near the first team even in the Championship, so if we go up he'd have had to go from League 1 to the Premier League. From the outside looking in it looks like we signed him as we thought he could make the step up but have since decided otherwise.

Unfortunately I think you may be close with that. I hope he can push on. I wouldn’t want him to become Kev Long mark2 even though that has been a great role for KL.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:25 am

Vegas Claret wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:35 am
he's 5'7
No he's not, he's 5 ft 6.99999999999 :lol:

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by jedi_master » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:28 am

HiThere wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 8:59 am
McNally doesn't seem to be near the first team even in the Championship, so if we go up he'd have had to go from League 1 to the Premier League. From the outside looking in it looks like we signed him as we thought he could make the step up but have since decided otherwise.
This is possible, and he was a late bloomer from the LOI so he's actually turning 24 this year as opposed to being 20/21. Lad needs football and I hope we can get him a good loan this window, then (if we go up) possibly a season in the Championship next season so that we can see where he is at?

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by RVclaret » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:30 am

Unless I’m missing something, none of these Belgian articles actually say anything about us having any offer accepted, or the player being close to actually joining us. In fact the above article says he’s expected to play in their game today.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by jedi_master » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:37 am

RVclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:30 am
Unless I’m missing something, none of these Belgian articles actually say anything about us having any offer accepted, or the player being close to actually joining us. In fact the above article says he’s expected to play in their game today.
Article says he will be playing Standard Leige today as his final game before signing for Burnley - though where the information comes from I am unsure, Le Soir seem to be a well respected resource though. One would assume we have had a bid accepted even if the financial details are not forthcoming in the press as yet. We didn't know for example that we had bid £3.5m for this fella in the summer (think there was a link to his name once but little else) but apparently that is the case. Seems they wanted £5m and we have put it off till January, possibly to see how McNally fared and then obviously we loaned Beyer too. One can only assume that Kompany has been unimpressed with McNally in terms of getting him into the team at this level, has got rid of Long, has reservations about Taylor at CB as a first choice option and wants to get someone permanent in place in case we cannot tie down Beyer/THB for next season?

I also (as I have found myself doing far too much since we hired VK - yes, I am a sad act, but what else is working from home for? :D ) just checked out the STVV Messageboard, and whilst it is difficult with translate to sometimes get the full picture, they believe it to be true. They seem to have financial issues and need a sale, they have just got rid of their main creative player to Zulte Waregem (a 34 year old called Bruls) for a few hundred thousand to fill the coffers.

They also seem to regard this player very highly.
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by aggi » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:50 am

Quicknick wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 2:26 am
He certainly doesn't look it.
With him being 5'10 the rest of our team must be 6' plus and Muric 7'. You wonder why Sheff Utd gave us so many problems in the air with our team of giants.
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Lancasterclaret » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:54 am

Think its worth bearing in mind as well that VK has mentioned more than once the situation with contracts and loans and that the squad will have to continue to evolve throughout each transfer window

I wouldn't write off McNally yet either, its not his fault that THB and Beyer have been absolutely terrific and it must be hard to find a place for him even on the bench with Taylors versatility
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Lancasterclaret » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:59 am

https://twitter.com/sachatavolieri/stat ... 9220066306

This is the guy who got a lot of our summer transfer stuff correct, but even he says we are only "expected" to go for him this window

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by RVclaret » Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:02 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:59 am
https://twitter.com/sachatavolieri/stat ... 9220066306

This is the guy who got a lot of our summer transfer stuff correct, but even he says we are only "expected" to go for him this window
Yep ‘no offer’ is about where I thought it was at.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by RVclaret » Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:38 am

https://www.aftonbladet.se/sportbladet/ ... lmar-ekdal

Journalist in Sweden linking us with DIF CB Hjalmar Ekdal, 24 years old.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by MancunianClaret » Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:08 am

Plymouth Argyle fans on Twitter believe they're getting Scott Twine on loan... https://twitter.com/search?q=argyle%20t ... ery&f=live

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by RVclaret » Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:09 am

MancunianClaret wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:08 am
Plymouth Argyle fans on Twitter believe they're getting Scott Twine on loan... https://twitter.com/search?q=argyle%20t ... ery&f=live
Absolutely no chance 😂

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:09 am

They guy who posted this had 60k followers
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by gandhisflipflop » Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:12 am

His brother is Albin Ekdal

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by RVclaret » Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:14 am

I find the chasing of a centre half interesting.

Purely because one would assume they wouldn’t even get on our bench right now.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Guller Bull » Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:18 am

I suppose with Long gone and McNally either going out on loan or not deemed ready yet. Plus both of THB and JB both only on loan then the planning for back up and succession to role if/when promoted becomes key.
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by MancunianClaret » Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:19 am

RVclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:09 am
Absolutely no chance 😂
Agreed. There's the tiniest shred of believability in it to worry me however. :mrgreen:

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:29 am

Guller Bull wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:18 am
I suppose with Long gone and McNally either going out on loan or not deemed ready yet. Plus both of THB and JB both only on loan then the planning for back up and succession to role if/when promoted becomes key.
Back up for THB or JB because if one of these picks up a injury that would dent our promotion push
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by NewClaret » Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:32 am

Hjalmar Ekdal:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RFj8gCgGGDY

Likes to score by the looks of things!!
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by RVclaret » Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:34 am

NewClaret wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:32 am
Hjalmar Ekdal:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RFj8gCgGGDY

Likes to score by the looks of things!!
From fan comments I’ve gathered that he’s a very good ball playing defender, which should be no surprise!

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Flying Without Ings » Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:47 am

The fact that we chase multiple targets at the same time makes the transfer windows exciting these days. I used to dread them in the Garlick era.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by BuryClaret » Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:52 am

Didn't the Swedish league finish in November? Match fitness may be an issue.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by HiThere » Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:57 am

So Lowton, Long and Westwood are out. That's 3 of our oldest players with presumably decent-sized wages.
Ameen Al-Dakhil and Hjalmar Ekdal both central defenders are possibly in. Along with the lad from Forest and Obafemi. Whether that would then leave room for Barnes to leave, time will tell. But we're certainly not messing around bringing the average down further.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by wilks_bfc » Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:58 am

HiThere wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 8:59 am
McNally doesn't seem to be near the first team even in the Championship, so if we go up he'd have had to go from League 1 to the Premier League. From the outside looking in it looks like we signed him as we thought he could make the step up but have since decided otherwise.
Don’t think it’s a case of deciding otherwise, think it’s more of can’t really replace THB or Bayer with the form they are in

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:00 pm

I love the fact we are hopefully adding to the squad whist top of the league instead of just sitting on it
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by tiger76 » Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:24 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:00 pm
I love the fact we are hopefully adding to the squad whist top of the league instead of just sitting on it
There's always room for improvement, and what better time to strengthen than when we're flying at the top of the league and looking dead certs to be promoted.

One aspect of our transfer policy that has definitely changed under VK is that we now have a reach throughout Europe to perhaps pick up some hidden gems, something which was sadly lacking under Dyche, Defour being the one notable expectation.
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by claretspice » Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:27 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:14 am
I find the chasing of a centre half interesting.

Purely because one would assume they wouldn’t even get on our bench right now.
I think if we had a good enough centre half, they might be on the bench - and I note the Belgian/Iraqi lad has operated at defensive midfield too.

We need options at centre half - we're not guaranteed to have Beyer or THB next season, and it may assist negotiations with either if we already have other credible Premier League capable options in the building. It's a sensible down-payment on our summer work as a minimum.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by BennyD » Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:28 pm

I love the fact I support Burnley. With all the uncertainty surrounding us after relegation, what Big Vin and Alan Pace have achieved so far is little short of staggering. We ARE a lot more pro-active in moving forward and improving, despite our current position, which bodes sooo well for the future. These really are heady times for us, the chosen few. UTC.
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by RVclaret » Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:32 pm

claretspice wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:27 pm
I think if we had a good enough centre half, they might be on the bench - and I note the Belgian/Iraqi lad has operated at defensive midfield too.

We need options at centre half - we're not guaranteed to have Beyer or THB next season, and it may assist negotiations with either if we already have other credible Premier League capable options in the building. It's a sensible down-payment on our summer work as a minimum.
Yeah all fair points. Although at the moment Taylor is the only defender on the bench and he can cover both cb and lb.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by claretspice » Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:36 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:32 pm
Yeah all fair points. Although at the moment Taylor is the only defender on the bench and he can cover both cb and lb.
Yes and Beyer covers right back. But with 7 subs, if someone who is really pushing for the first XI in their position arrives at the club, you've got the flexibility to include them. There's noone you'd say is of that calibre missing out at the minute so it's not a like for like comparison.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Cap » Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:38 pm

One aspect of our transfer policy that has definitely changed under VK is that we now have a reach throughout Europe to perhaps pick up some hidden gems, something which was sadly lacking under Dyche, Defour being the one notable expectation.
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VK has obviously helped with this however I don't think he can take all the credit.
Before he came in we had already signed Wout, Cornet and tried for Orsic.
I'm sure I read somewhere that Zaroury's name popped up on both our scouting reports and was liked by Kompany hence why we signed him.
My point is that we clearly had already been scouting Europe before VK came in. Maybe he is more willing to take the gamble on foreign players than Dyche.
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by gandhisflipflop » Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:39 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:14 am
I find the chasing of a centre half interesting.

Purely because one would assume they wouldn’t even get on our bench right now.
Maybe VK has a few systems in mind but only currently has the players for 2 at the back. Maybe 3 at the back in certain games may give us more variety

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by summitclaret » Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:41 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:39 pm
Maybe VK has a few systems in mind but only currently has the players for 2 at the back. Maybe 3 at the back in certain games may give us more variety
I hope so. We would be foolish to play SU with the same midget 11.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Claret Toni » Fri Jan 06, 2023 3:09 pm

Clive 1960 wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 3:50 am
I believe Danny ings could be available and Everton are interested would a cheeky loan deal till end of the season be good if we could afford him and he knows the club .
I think he knows Southampton a bit more - but on that basis I guess he won't be going there. ;)

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Fri Jan 06, 2023 3:38 pm

claretspice wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:36 pm
Yes and Beyer covers right back. But with 7 subs, if someone who is really pushing for the first XI in their position arrives at the club, you've got the flexibility to include them. There's noone you'd say is of that calibre missing out at the minute so it's not a like for like comparison.
Don’t understand why championship isn’t 9 subs like the premier league, our bench would be even stronger then
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Jan 06, 2023 3:46 pm

BuryClaret wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:52 am
Didn't the Swedish league finish in November? Match fitness may be an issue.
Swedish finnish ? which is it ? :D

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Firthy » Fri Jan 06, 2023 3:59 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 3:46 pm
Swedish finnish ? which is it ? :D
Turnip 😂

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Taffy on the wing » Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:17 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:32 am
Hjalmar Ekdal:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RFj8gCgGGDY

Likes to score by the looks of things!!
Sign him up......looks like Beyer on Steroids!
Some of those goals are fantastic.....both feet, head.

I know it's a Youtube video ...but talk about potential.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by NRC » Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:31 pm

Taffy on the wing wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:17 pm
Sign him up......looks like Beyer on Steroids!
Some of those goals are fantastic.....both feet, head.

I know it's a Youtube video ...but talk about potential.
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by NewClaret » Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:31 pm

Taffy on the wing wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:17 pm
Sign him up......looks like Beyer on Steroids!
Some of those goals are fantastic.....both feet, head.

I know it's a Youtube video ...but talk about potential.
I know, looks very good in that video not withstanding that their purpose :D

Certainly reassuring that these type of players are being scouted in case THB/Beyer don’t sign.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Tricky Trevor » Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:39 pm

summitclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:41 pm
I hope so. We would be foolish to play SU with the same midget 11.
Far too much made of that defeat. The HT change by them did work but our guys were screwed after the Rotherham game on the Thursday night. We’ll beat them ont’Turf.
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by tiger76 » Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:45 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:39 pm
Far too much made of that defeat. The HT change by them did work but our guys were screwed after the Rotherham game on the Thursday night. We’ll beat them ont’Turf.
We were also missing key personnel in that fixture which some posters seem to have conveniently forgotten.

Most sides have one bad result a season even the likes of City and Liverpool can suffer bad days at the office, the key feature for me is the manner is which we've responded to that minor hiccup.
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by HiThere » Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:50 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:45 pm
We were also missing key personnel in that fixture which some posters seem to have conveniently forgotten.
We were missing Brownhill and Jay. Bastien (Brownhill) and Tella (Jay) played instead.

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