January transfer window rumours.

[agreenwood]

It’s really not rocket science.

If under 25 they might spend a lot as it’s likely they can make a profit. If 25 and over the likely won’t spend a lot as less chance of making profit.
Hope that clarifies it.

Neither is the fact that no club in the world sticks religiously to its primary policy. If we did that now, we’d barely have any experience in the team.

IF the future ability to sell on for profit was the overriding factor in all our business, I doubt there’d be too much nervousness about a 25/26 year old at the figures we’re paying. It’s hardly as if you couldn’t make a decent profit on someone who cost £7/8m if they were to have a good season in the Prem next year.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Neither is the fact that no club in the world sticks religiously to its primary policy. If we did that now, we’d barely have any experience in the team.

IF the future ability to sell on for profit was the overriding factor in all our business, I doubt there’d be too much nervousness about a 25/26 year old at the figures we’re paying. It’s hardly as if you couldn’t make a decent profit on someone who cost £7/8m if they were to have a good season in the Prem next year.

I’m not sure if this is just not coming across in the right way.
I am not saying we won’t spend that kind of money. I’m saying the club will be purchasing players that they deem to financially worth the risk.

What I mean when I say that is the club would rather sign someone like Foster (younger, lower fee and wages) but who the club deem to have a similar ceiling (peak value) as Gykores. That is because the financial risk is less.

They will sign 26-32 year old players as long as they meet the financial risk profile.

[jedi_master]

The thing is NC93, you throw out figures for players to suit your argument when you’ve no idea if the player this debate stemmed from would cost what you suggested. He’ll have 12 months on his deal left in the summer, nobody was suggesting spending £20m on him as he’s not worth that and we wouldn’t pay it. He’d be available around £10-15m, and at 24 would very much grow in value. That’s all people are saying.

Everyone agrees with the overall strategy of buying low and selling high - it’s served us great and we will undoubtedly continue it. Every now and then though, a Josh Cullen etc is the right move for the squad. Hadziamehtovic looks class based on the little we could see and would be another exciting addition regardless of reaching 25!

On a similar line, this might wind some up but just a discussion I was having yesterday - do we need to bring a ‘little’ experience in for the Premier League? The likes of Cork, Jay, Barnes, Taylor have been a huge plus for the younger lads this season to learn from, I’m sure of that. With a few of those possibly leaving this summer, is there not space for one or two older lads to lead our prospects to a higher level of football both on and off the pitch? We spitballed a few ex-Kompany alumni who are out of contract this summer - James Milner, Ilkay Gundogan, Edin Dzeko! Yes, all undoubtedly massive salaries and might not fancy it, but would one of those on a free transfer might be of benefit? Hope you see my point NC93, nobody disagrees with our transfer strategy - it’s brilliant - just that the odd move outside the boundaries of that strategy does sometimes serve a purpose too.

[Ric_C]

When did he like the tweet though? The original tweet was from Dec 2022

[Newcastleclaret93]

The thing is NC93, you throw out figures for players to suit your argument when you’ve no idea if the player this debate stemmed from would cost what you suggested. He’ll have 12 months on his deal left in the summer, nobody was suggesting spending £20m on him as he’s not worth that and we wouldn’t pay it. He’d be available around £10-15m, and at 24 would very much grow in value. That’s all people are saying.

Everyone agrees with the overall strategy of buying low and selling high - it’s served us great and we will undoubtedly continue it. Every now and then though, a Josh Cullen etc is the right move for the squad. Hadziamehtovic looks class based on the little we could see and would be another exciting addition regardless of reaching 25!

On a similar line, this might wind some up but just a discussion I was having yesterday - do we need to bring a ‘little’ experience in for the Premier League? The likes of Cork, Jay, Barnes, Taylor have been a huge plus for the younger lads this season to learn from, I’m sure of that. With a few of those possibly leaving this summer, is there not space for one or two older lads to lead our prospects to a higher level of football both on and off the pitch? We spitballed a few ex-Kompany alumni who are out of contract this summer - James Milner, Ilkay Gundogan, Edin Dzeko! Yes, all undoubtedly massive salaries and might not fancy it, but would one of those on a free transfer might be of benefit? Hope you see my point NC93, nobody disagrees with our transfer strategy - it’s brilliant - just that the odd move outside the boundaries of that strategy does sometimes serve a purpose too.

The number 20m has come from there papers saying that’s what they want. Also he’s 25 at the end of this season.

But I’m not arguing that either? I have said if we could get him for 10m that would be an alright deal. I’m saying at 20m for a 25 year old striker it doesn’t make financial sense as there is low percentage chance we make profit on him.

[Carport]

Excited to see these additions to squad. Just hope VK is skilled in keeping them all happy so we don’t end up with a fractured team spirit; the spirit we saw at the end of the WBA game that VK and the group has worked so hard on to achieve. Well I’m guessing they’ve worked hard on that. I guess it helps bringing in younger lads who may be less disenchanted about not getting game time than the older crew. And I suppose if the older players don’t like it they move on!

[Socrates]

Why are you debating with him?

Do you honestly think he’s going to turn round and say “you know what lads, you’re right. I’ve got this one wrong”?

Make a coffee. Go outside. Lots going on you know.

[Firthy]

He's 27

Past his best and would be worthless in a couple of years

Am I doing this right?

Can't believe anyone is taking this post as genuine, love the sarcasm Lancaster. Made me laugh

[Jakubclaret]

I’m not sure if this is just not coming across in the right way.
I am not saying we won’t spend that kind of money. I’m saying the club will be purchasing players that they deem to financially worth the risk.

What I mean when I say that is the club would rather sign someone like Foster (younger, lower fee and wages) but who the club deem to have a similar ceiling (peak value) as Gykores. That is because the financial risk is less.

They will sign 26-32 year old players as long as they meet the financial risk profile.

It's obvious from the outset regarding recruitment that players of a certain criteria will only be targeted with the new regime in place, money won't be spunked on the likes of Dale Stephens anymore because it just doesn't represent any financial profitability or even service. The club isn't as financially secure anymore as it once was so things have to be done differently.

[Dodobdobodobo]

Amir Hadziametovic

From what we can all tell, a really exciting defensive midfielder.

Get you Bosnian that plays in Turkey

[dsr]

Why are you debating with him?

Do you honestly think he’s going to turn round and say “you know what lads, you’re right. I’ve got this one wrong”?

Make a coffee. Go outside. Lots going on you know.

Reading the whole thing, for (it seems) days on end, there seems to be two different arguments - newcastle is arguing the Gyokeres is overpriced and too old and not good enough for what we need, and the massed ranks of opponents are assuming that newcastle is therefore making the same argument about every single player aged 24-25 at whatever price. If we all just stick to the point it would lead to a lot less pointless bickering and attempts to belittle other posters.

[NewClaret]

Reading the whole thing, for (it seems) days on end, there seems to be two different arguments - newcastle is arguing the Gyokeres is overpriced and too old and not good enough for what we need, and the massed ranks of opponents are assuming that newcastle is therefore making the same argument about every single player aged 24-25 at whatever price. If we all just stick to the point it would lead to a lot less pointless bickering and attempts to belittle other posters.

Glad to see this post and the one by Socrates.

It was quite bizarre to witness how a poster can be rounded upon on this board for expressing an opinion, which everyone’s entitled to and was actually supported by others as it happens - so he wasn’t alone in holding it.

Would just like to add that nobody knows what’s going on in peoples lives outside this board, or how they’re feeling. I’m all for debate but it costs nothing to be civil.

[123EasyasBFC]

I’m not sure if this is just not coming across in the right way.
I am not saying we won’t spend that kind of money. I’m saying the club will be purchasing players that they deem to financially worth the risk.

What I mean when I say that is the club would rather sign someone like Foster (younger, lower fee and wages) but who the club deem to have a similar ceiling (peak value) as Gykores. That is because the financial risk is less.

They will sign 26-32 year old players as long as they meet the financial risk profile.

So with Gyokeres being 25 at the end of the season and not falling into your 26-32 category would be worth the money then?

[It Is What It Is]

With Lyle Foster hopefully joining us, the Obafemi saga may be over. Swansea messing about has stopped them from getting a very unhappy player off their books. I am still of the opinion that Obafemi would rock the boat in the dressing room...a bit Weghorst like.
Fingers crossed for Foster

[Oldparkwood]

Absolutely NewClaret....... As my dad always says....." its nice to be nice and it costs you nothing"

[HiThere]

According to The Athletic, we're in the final stages of talks with Foster. I thought personal terms had already been agreed.

[Hapag Lloyd]

So with Gyokeres being 25 at the end of the season and not falling into your 26-32 category would be worth the money then?

Think it’s been done to death already.

[Lancasterclaret]

Can't believe anyone is taking this post as genuine, love the sarcasm Lancaster. Made me laugh

We defo need sarcasm emojis on this board

[COBBLE]

Glad to see this post and the one by Socrates.

It was quite bizarre to witness how a poster can be rounded upon on this board for expressing an opinion, which everyone’s entitled to and was actually supported by others as it happens - so he wasn’t alone in holding it.

I always ask anyone I meet who is a BFC fan if they read this board and contribute. The usual answer is they read the board (maybe just for information) but say they would not contribute because of the manner in which people can be criticised.

[mdd2]

The problem with this kind of information and comment is that there is just the written word-nothing else-no intonation of speech, no facial expression and no eye contact . This means it is all too easy to misconstrue what is being written which is why the spoken word will always be the preferred way of communication.
Who on this board has not sent a txt or email and the receiver has totally misunderstood the message and at times has been upset by what the txter or emailer felt was nothing like the way it has been received?
Having written all that there are some shocking posts which belittle and insult other posters.
All this for me to agree with NewClaret-if you cant speak well of someone-keep quiet.

[martin_p]

The problem with this kind of information and comment is that there is just the written word-nothing else-no intonation of speech, no facial expression and no eye contact . This means it is all too easy to misconstrue what is being written which is why the spoken word will always be the preferred way of communication.
Who on this board has not sent a txt or email and the receiver has totally misunderstood the message and at times has been upset by what the txter or emailer felt was nothing like the way it has been received?
Having written all that there are some shocking posts which belittle and insult other posters.
All this for me to agree with NewClaret-if you cant speak well of someone-keep quiet.

How dare you!!!! Bet you wouldn’t say that to my face!

[claretonthecoast1882]

The problem with this kind of information and comment is that there is just the written word-nothing else-no intonation of speech, no facial expression and no eye contact . This means it is all too easy to misconstrue what is being written which is why the spoken word will always be the preferred way of communication.
Who on this board has not sent a txt or email and the receiver has totally misunderstood the message and at times has been upset by what the txter or emailer felt was nothing like the way it has been received?
Having written all that there are some shocking posts which belittle and insult other posters.
All this for me to agree with NewClaret-if you cant speak well of someone-keep quiet.

Full agree with this, I text the Mrs on Friday to say we were having a beer after the match but won't be late home.

Apparently it wasn't clear by text that we would have to get a cab to Lytham and it would be 3am when we got back

[LDNBFC87]

Glad we've got this all cleared up - has anyone got any transfer rumours to share?

[MancunianClaret]

Tenuous link, but VK's official Instagram account "liked" a highlights reel of the Bosnian lad last night...

[HiThere]

Glad we've got this all cleared up - has anyone got any transfer rumours to share?

According to The Athletic, we're in the final stages of talks with Foster.

[ClaretTony]

According to The Athletic, we're in the final stages of talks with Foster.

Beyond that stage

[RVclaret]

Beyond that stage

Medical today, announced this evening/tomorrow, is my guess.

[ClaretTony]

Medical today, announced this evening/tomorrow, is my guess.

I'm not expecting anything imminently and in any case a dental appointment has to take priority

[burnley007]

Could we start a transfer rumours thread?

[HistoricalClaret]

Medical today, announced this evening/tomorrow, is my guess.

His medical is not today

[PremierLeagueClass]

Medical today, announced this evening/tomorrow, is my guess.

Ipswich should have a good feel to it if we can get all 3 of the new lads plus Twine involved.

[martin_p]

I'm not expecting anything imminently and in any case a dental appointment has to take priority

So an announcement at tooth hurty? I’ll get my coat.

[ClaretTony]

So an announcement at tooth hurty? I’ll get my coat.

Ha ha

[Goody1975]

Could we start a transfer rumours thread?

Yes, please can we stick to the subject, things sometimes go off at a tangent but let's try not have pages and pages of stuff not related to it.

[RVclaret]

His medical is not today

Go on then, when is/was it?

[NewClaret]

I'm not expecting anything imminently and in any case a dental appointment has to take priority

Best he gets his teeth sorted before before his medical

[burnley007]

Is this the end of us wanting Obafemi? Surely there is still a space for him in the squad? We need pace up front.

[HistoricalClaret]

Go on then, when is/was it?

He'll be in before Ipswich as long as he passes but its not today

[MancunianClaret]

Is this the end of us wanting Obafemi? Surely there is still a space for him in the squad? We need pace up front.

Shame as he seems a steal at £3M. Not much to lose at that price.

[AshevilleNCClaret]

If “Bafana Foster” signs that’ll be our last two signings honed through the USA college system….. referring to a post I made a couple of weeks ago, we really should be tapping the system

Did he go to college in the us or did he just play here?

[HistoricalClaret]

Did he go to college in the us or did he just play here?

He didnt go to college in the US dunno where he got that from at all tbh didnt play or go to school there.

[Stan Tastic]

The thing is NC93, you throw out figures for players to suit your argument when you’ve no idea if the player this debate stemmed from would cost what you suggested. He’ll have 12 months on his deal left in the summer, nobody was suggesting spending £20m on him as he’s not worth that and we wouldn’t pay it. He’d be available around £10-15m, and at 24 would very much grow in value. That’s all people are saying.

Everyone agrees with the overall strategy of buying low and selling high - it’s served us great and we will undoubtedly continue it. Every now and then though, a Josh Cullen etc is the right move for the squad. Hadziamehtovic looks class based on the little we could see and would be another exciting addition regardless of reaching 25!

On a similar line, this might wind some up but just a discussion I was having yesterday - do we need to bring a ‘little’ experience in for the Premier League? The likes of Cork, Jay, Barnes, Taylor have been a huge plus for the younger lads this season to learn from, I’m sure of that. With a few of those possibly leaving this summer, is there not space for one or two older lads to lead our prospects to a higher level of football both on and off the pitch? We spitballed a few ex-Kompany alumni who are out of contract this summer - James Milner, Ilkay Gundogan, Edin Dzeko! Yes, all undoubtedly massive salaries and might not fancy it, but would one of those on a free transfer might be of benefit? Hope you see my point NC93, nobody disagrees with our transfer strategy - it’s brilliant - just that the odd move outside the boundaries of that strategy does sometimes serve a purpose too.

Dzeko is almost 37 and Milner is 37. We've got a manager with plenty of PL experience if you think that really matters. I don't think paying a high wage on players way past their best is a good idea.

[LDNBFC87]

Foster almost done and the Bosnian lad a maybe - we expecting that to be our business done for the window? If so, I'd say it's a cracking window for one Big Al said we wouldn't be active in

[Claretnick]

He didnt go to college in the US dunno where he got that from at all tbh didnt play or go to school there.

Hjalmar Ekdal had a year in the US studying and played for a college whilst there according to Wikipedia. A few posters seeto be getting confused

[jedi_master]

Dzeko is almost 37 and Milner is 37. We've got a manager with plenty of PL experience if you think that really matters. I don't think paying a high wage on players way past their best is a good idea.

Absolutely agree generally speaking, I mean more as a one off if we ended up getting rid of Barnes, Taylor, Rodriguez etc. Experience has helped us this season. Dzeko still lethal despite his age, 11 this season for Inter…

[NRC]

He didnt go to college in the US dunno where he got that from at all tbh didnt play or go to school there.

Duh….. I saw “Orlando Pirates” and put two and two together assuming UCF. Who’dathunk “Orlando” was in Johannesburg

[claptrappers_union]

I think having older players in the squad is great for leadership and experience, even if they don't feature for 90 mins on the field.

Mitchell Thomas, Graham Alexander, Michael Duff, Kevin Ball, Andy Cole and Ian Wright... even Peter Crouch to some extent. As long as they know their role within the group.

Sean Dyche wanted to keep Crouch because he was 'good for the group' and could still do a job on the pitch. However, Crouch didn't want to be a 'head on a stick' and decided to retire and pursue a media career... which is fine, but I think an older player can bring value to the team behind the scenes.

Shame someone like Ronaldo couldn't see that at Manchester United.

[FeedTheArf]

Absolutely agree generally speaking, I mean more as a one off if we ended up getting rid of Barnes, Taylor, Rodriguez etc. Experience has helped us this season. Dzeko still lethal despite his age, 11 this season for Inter…

Completely agree with this. Our manager and assistant have more than enough experience of the league but some experienced heads on the pitch that are still able to contribute are invaluable. The trouble is, our experience of this in the past has been players like Steven Reid who contributed the square root of f all. We don't need 'good lads in the changing room', we need 'good lads on the pitch' and the difficulty is finding that balance.

[tiger76]

Is this the end of us wanting Obafemi? Surely there is still a space for him in the squad? We need pace up front.

Might depend whether Saints recall Tella, if they do then I can see us snapping up Obafemi especially if the £3m fee is accurate.

[ClaretAL]

BURNLEY WANT £12M ANTOINE SEMENYO AS BRISTOL CITY BOSS MAKES BID CLAIM

https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2023/01/23/b ... bid-claim/

Probably a back up in the event Foster fell through.