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Sander Berge

Post by claretburns » Sun Jan 29, 2023 2:30 pm

Fulham in talks with Sheff Utd for a £20m deal plus add ons for Sander Berge, will be a big blow for Sheff Utd to lose him.

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Re: Sander Berge

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sun Jan 29, 2023 2:33 pm

Their bad luck continues. Think without the injuries and financial issues they'd have walked this league but as it is I can't see anyone stopping us from becoming championes

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Re: Sander Berge

Post by halfmanhalfbiscuit » Sun Jan 29, 2023 2:35 pm

Didn't they pay something like that for him?

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Re: Sander Berge

Post by randomclaret2 » Sun Jan 29, 2023 2:41 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Sun Jan 29, 2023 2:33 pm
Their bad luck continues. Think without the injuries and financial issues they'd have walked this league but as it is I can't see anyone stopping us from becoming championes
😂

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Re: Sander Berge

Post by Goody1975 » Sun Jan 29, 2023 2:43 pm

halfmanhalfbiscuit wrote:
Sun Jan 29, 2023 2:35 pm
Didn't they pay something like that for him?
Something like that, might have even been a little more.

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Re: Sander Berge

Post by ClaretInLeeds » Sun Jan 29, 2023 2:45 pm

Good news for us, he’s their best player by a country mile.

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Re: Sander Berge

Post by RVclaret » Sun Jan 29, 2023 2:46 pm

ClaretInLeeds wrote:
Sun Jan 29, 2023 2:45 pm
Good news for us, he’s their best player by a country mile.
Tell that to Sheffield fans and they’ll completely disagree. In fact they think Doyle and McAtee (on loan from City) have been better this season. Ndiaye is their best player.
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Re: Sander Berge

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sun Jan 29, 2023 2:47 pm

A decent player but comments about how good Sheffield United would be without injuries is pure nonsense
The gulf in class between us is huge as we have some seriously talented players .Blades have a team of journeymen.
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Re: Sander Berge

Post by NottsClaret » Sun Jan 29, 2023 2:49 pm

I don’t watch them every week but whenever I’ve seen him play he looks a level above the Championship, it’d be a blow to lose him but they need the cash apparently.

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Re: Sander Berge

Post by Big Vinny K » Sun Jan 29, 2023 3:01 pm

Berge & Ndiaye their best players.
No coincidence that since Berge came back from injury they have been winning nearly every game.

Berge cost around £25m though so should be standing out in this league. He was previous to the injury linked with a couple of really big clubs - sure Arsenal was one of them.

Sheff United have some horrendous injuries though - if they lose Berge too then that’s a pretty big reliance on Ndiaye. We have far better options than them at them moment and we are not reliant on 1 or 2 players.

If / when Sheff United go up they have a massive rebuild on. I hope they do actually as that’s one team I’m pretty confident we will do better than.
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Re: Sander Berge

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jan 29, 2023 3:07 pm

And there has been big interest too in Ndiaye but he’s said he’s not going to leave until the end of the season.

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Re: Sander Berge

Post by TheFamilyCat » Sun Jan 29, 2023 3:10 pm

Lucky for them that they'd walked the league in October otherwise this would be a significant loss for them.

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Re: Sander Berge

Post by JimmyRobbo » Sun Jan 29, 2023 3:10 pm

Some player is SB. I'll be very happy to see him leave.
I agree with Big VK, I think we will finish above them next year, if we both do go up.

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Re: Sander Berge

Post by Burnley1989 » Sun Jan 29, 2023 3:34 pm

ClaretInLeeds wrote:
Sun Jan 29, 2023 2:45 pm
Good news for us, he’s their best player by a country mile.
Norwood’s their best player imo

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Re: Sander Berge

Post by ksrclaret » Sun Jan 29, 2023 3:36 pm

That’ll be a big blow for them, but make no mistake, they’re still a very good side.

This journeyman and workmanlike tag they’re picking up from some on here is inaccurate and arrogant.
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Re: Sander Berge

Post by tiger76 » Sun Jan 29, 2023 3:48 pm

Berge will be a huge loss to them, however they will still have enough to go up behind the Clarets.

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Re: Sander Berge

Post by winsomeyen » Sun Jan 29, 2023 4:48 pm

Not in todays squad.

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Re: Sander Berge

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jan 29, 2023 4:53 pm

Setpiece United

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Re: Sander Berge

Post by chekhov » Sun Jan 29, 2023 4:58 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 29, 2023 2:47 pm
The gulf in class between us is huge as we have some seriously talented players .Blades have a team of journeymen.
The ”team of journeymen”, so called, are fairing better than us against lower league opposition. Also outclassed us 5-2.

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Re: Sander Berge

Post by quoonbeatz » Sun Jan 29, 2023 5:01 pm

Mad how many football fans have no idea what a journeyman is.

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Re: Sander Berge

Post by Duffer_ » Sun Jan 29, 2023 7:00 pm

According to Nixon, Sheff Utd want Lewis O'Brien (ex Hudds) from Forest as Berge's replacement.

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Re: Sander Berge

Post by nil_desperandum » Sun Jan 29, 2023 7:05 pm

halfmanhalfbiscuit wrote:
Sun Jan 29, 2023 2:35 pm
Didn't they pay something like that for him?
No.
As I understand it, one of the reasons that they are under a transfer embargo is that they have failed to pay for him.
That - I think however- was indeed something like the fee agreed.
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Re: Sander Berge

Post by jdrobbo » Sun Jan 29, 2023 7:08 pm

He’s an absolutely outstanding player: one of the very best in the division.

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Re: Sander Berge

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Jan 29, 2023 7:10 pm

jdrobbo wrote:
Sun Jan 29, 2023 7:08 pm
He’s an absolutely outstanding player: one of the very best in the division.
He's going to a level where he belongs for all intent & purposes he's PL standard.

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Re: Sander Berge

Post by Targetman » Sun Jan 29, 2023 7:21 pm

Duffer_ wrote:
Sun Jan 29, 2023 7:00 pm
According to Nixon, Sheff Utd want Lewis O'Brien (ex Hudds) from Forest as Berge's replacement.
Thought they were under a transfer embargo and can't sign anyone during this window?
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Re: Sander Berge

Post by Duffer_ » Sun Jan 29, 2023 7:25 pm

Targetman wrote:
Sun Jan 29, 2023 7:21 pm
Thought they were under a transfer embargo and can't sign anyone during this window?
Word is the sale proceeds from Berge transfer clears the payment arrears, the embargo is lifted, and they sign O'Brien.

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Re: Sander Berge

Post by jdrobbo » Sun Jan 29, 2023 7:36 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 29, 2023 7:10 pm
He's going to a level where he belongs for all intent & purposes he's PL standard.
I agree

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Re: Sander Berge

Post by Big Vinny K » Sun Jan 29, 2023 7:39 pm

jdrobbo wrote:
Sun Jan 29, 2023 7:08 pm
He’s an absolutely outstanding player: one of the very best in the division.
Watching the Sheff United games since he came back from injury for me he is THE best player in the division.

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Re: Sander Berge

Post by RVclaret » Sun Jan 29, 2023 7:44 pm

Big Vinny K wrote:
Sun Jan 29, 2023 7:39 pm
Watching the Sheff United games since he came back from injury for me he is THE best player in the division.
Not sure which games you’ve watched but he’s been pretty poor whenever I’ve seen them. Awful at Blackpool the other week.

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Post by Big Vinny K » Sun Jan 29, 2023 7:56 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 29, 2023 7:44 pm
Not sure which games you’ve watched but he’s been pretty poor whenever I’ve seen them. Awful at Blackpool the other week.
Guessing i’m watching the same games as most people on this board and the the same as the manager of the team in 7th place in premier league who wants to fork out £20m on him.

Each to his own and all that though.

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Re: Sander Berge

Post by Swizzlestick » Sun Jan 29, 2023 7:57 pm

Blades consensus appears to be that he has ability but is a bit of a shirker who hasn't produced his best this season on a regular basis.

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Re: Sander Berge

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Jan 29, 2023 8:00 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 29, 2023 7:44 pm
Not sure which games you’ve watched but he’s been pretty poor whenever I’ve seen them. Awful at Blackpool the other week.
He’s had some off games for sure & gone missing but more often than not when he does turn up he oozes quality & does that more consistently than not.

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Re: Sander Berge

Post by SalouClaret » Sun Jan 29, 2023 8:06 pm

chekhov wrote:
Sun Jan 29, 2023 4:58 pm
The ”team of journeymen”, so called, are fairing better than us against lower league opposition. Also outclassed us 5-2.

1. They drew.
2. The team they played aren't even in the Football League, whereas Ipswich are aiming for promotion to the Championship.

Hardly fairing better!
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Re: Sander Berge

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sun Jan 29, 2023 8:06 pm

We have a great team of watchable entertainers compared with us Sheffield United are miles away from our high standards
But they keep digging out results and will probably end up as runners up
Style wise we are superior and our failure to beat them won't be repeated.

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Re: Sander Berge

Post by Papabendi » Sun Jan 29, 2023 8:12 pm

We were very keen on Berge three years ago before S Utd nipped in. Couldn't get the finance together in the end.

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Re: Sander Berge

Post by chekhov » Sun Jan 29, 2023 8:12 pm

SalouClaret wrote:
Sun Jan 29, 2023 8:06 pm
1. They drew.
2. The team they played aren't even in the Football League, whereas Ipswich are aiming for promotion to the Championship.

Hardly fairing better!
Good points, SalouClaret. I can’t argue with that.
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Re: Sander Berge

Post by claretburns » Sun Jan 29, 2023 8:33 pm

Duffer_ wrote:
Sun Jan 29, 2023 7:00 pm
According to Nixon, Sheff Utd want Lewis O'Brien (ex Hudds) from Forest as Berge's replacement.
O'Brien is already off to West Brom isn't he?

I saw that the other day on Sky Sports as I thought he'd be a good signing here with out limited CM options.

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Re: Sander Berge

Post by Duffer_ » Sun Jan 29, 2023 8:50 pm

claretburns wrote:
Sun Jan 29, 2023 8:33 pm
O'Brien is already off to West Brom isn't he?

I saw that the other day on Sky Sports as I thought he'd be a good signing here with out limited CM options.
Up to Forest I guess - not done until it's done. Just reporting what Nixon said re Sheff Utd, Berge & O'Brien.

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Re: Sander Berge

Post by Commy » Mon Jan 30, 2023 10:52 am

It looks like Sheff Utd are trying to sell him, not teams coming in for him. I think they are struggling to get the amount they want but probably need to sell him to get out of the embargo.

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Re: Sander Berge

Post by Lancasterclaret » Mon Jan 30, 2023 10:59 am

Again, he is someone that if he is available, should be on our radar

Clearly they need to sell to get out of the embargo, but he's probably out of our price range unfortunately

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Re: Sander Berge

Post by Hipper » Mon Jan 30, 2023 11:08 am

SalouClaret wrote:
Sun Jan 29, 2023 8:06 pm
1. They drew.
2. The team they played aren't even in the Football League, whereas Ipswich are aiming for promotion to the Championship.

Hardly fairing better!
1. Wrexham a better then National League standard.

2. It's the Cup.

3. Berge didn't play - not even on the bench.

I've seen Sheffield United on TV with and without Berge and regardless they are still effective and have a number of real quality players.

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Re: Sander Berge

Post by MrTopTier » Mon Jan 30, 2023 12:09 pm

Newcastle very interested and with Shelvey off to Forest, looking more likely.

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Re: Sander Berge

Post by jedi_master » Mon Jan 30, 2023 12:25 pm

I’ll be Very happy to not have him lining up against us at Turf Moor. Excellent player.

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Re: Sander Berge

Post by RVclaret » Mon Jan 30, 2023 12:28 pm

Comment about him from the Blades board

‘And anyone who thinks we will miss Berge or that todays outcome is because he is off to Fulham needs their bumps felt. Good luck to the lad. I just can't see a Sander Berge hole in their squad for a languid, inconsistent crock who adds little to a team performance than a few lighter moments in the odd game. Fulham must have cash falling out of their arseholes.’

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Re: Sander Berge

Post by NottsClaret » Mon Jan 30, 2023 12:30 pm

Hipper wrote:
Mon Jan 30, 2023 11:08 am
I've seen Sheffield United on TV with and without Berge and regardless they are still effective and have a number of real quality players.
Quite. I don't know where this idea we're head and shoulders better than them comes from. We're averaging just 0.18 more points per game and the only time we met, they absolutely walloped us.

Berge would be an amazing addition to our side and is Premier League ready but there's no way we're signing him for £20m, or paying his wages which are currently taking Sheff Utd right to the brink financially.

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Re: Sander Berge

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Mon Jan 30, 2023 1:23 pm

The issue here is that the Blades shouldn’t have signed Berge in the first place.

He was too expensive and now they will make a loss on him.

He helped keep them up in his first 5 months. After that they had a relegation and then a failure to go up. Maybe this season his contribution again will be decisive, but maybe not?

Our way is the best way - best balance of volume and price, giving many options to possibly sell high in the future. A single player costing €22m cannot make enough of a difference.

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Re: Sander Berge

Post by Tricky Trevor » Mon Jan 30, 2023 1:31 pm

NottsClaret wrote:
Mon Jan 30, 2023 12:30 pm
they absolutely walloped us.
A false score. We totally outplayed them first half and led at HT. The Thursday night game got into our legs second half and they won. Don’t for one second think it was our best against their best it just wasn’t. Sky screwing the league table again.

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Re: Sander Berge

Post by Hipper » Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:18 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Mon Jan 30, 2023 1:31 pm
A false score. We totally outplayed them first half and led at HT. The Thursday night game got into our legs second half and they won. Don’t for one second think it was our best against their best it just wasn’t. Sky screwing the league table again.
What Thursday night game?

We played on Wednesday 2nd, beating Rotherham 3-2. They played on Tuesday winning 1-0 at Bristol City. The Sheff Utd match was Saturday 1200. We were 2-1 up at half time but I never felt we were comfortable. They just blew us away second half and we had no answer. VK put it down to energy levels and that maybe so but the fact is we were well beaten over 90 minutes.

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