Merseyside derby

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:50 pm

Stan Tastic wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:42 pm
Muric's pinpoint long passing is not the same as aimlessly hoofing it down the channels. If you think it's the same that's a cause for concern, to be polite.

Ok ill take your point, you meant a lot more than you said and where not articulate enough to encompass all your thoughts and i should realise that where numerous things in the post that you didn’t say , and people who cant read your mind, worry you and give you cause for concern.

I should not point out any inaccuracy or deviance to your post as that will only upset you.. is that polite enough

Oh and just to be clear it was you who called muric - hoofing i referred to it as passing.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:52 pm

Big moments have gone against Everton, none more than the Tarkowski header hitting the post and Liverpool scoring within 15 seconds.

But having said that, Everton have looked tonight what they’ve been all season, a bloody poor side.

HiThere · Post by **HiThere** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:52 pm

Funkydrummer wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:50 pm
The "handbags" comment was referring to the squabbling
amongst the players.

Dyche will sort it out.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:52 pm

Funkydrummer wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:50 pm
The "handbags" comment was referring to the squabbling
amongst the players.

Robertson in amongst it again.
Think he's been taking behavioural lessons from Richarlison.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:53 pm

Stan Tastic wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:02 pm
VK's not going to have them humping long balls down the channels for a lone striker.

Ashley plays for us now and we don't lump it - you can't beat experience

DAVETHEVICAR · Post by **DAVETHEVICAR** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:54 pm

4 minutes stoppage time only and 8 second half substitutes plus hold up for a scuffle between Robertson and Pickford .
Referees have obviously been told not to add time on for time wasting or there would have been more than 10 minutes stoppage

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:54 pm

ElectroClaret wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:52 pm
Robertson in amongst it again.
Think he's been taking behavioural lessons from Richarlison.

Horrible is Robertson

Carwin261 · Post by **Carwin261** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:54 pm

HiThere wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:47 pm
No handbags. I think McNeil would be a solid option on our bench. Ask Burnley fans and I bet most would agree.

Can I have what you’re drinking please ? If he hadn’t played for us know one would even give him a 2nd glance , Neverton have definitely had their pants pulled down,

Rumpelstiltskin · Post by **Rumpelstiltskin** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:54 pm

Very poor Everton side against a very average Liverpool side.

HiThere · Post by **HiThere** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:55 pm

Carwin261 wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:54 pm
Can I have what you’re drinking please ? If he hadn’t played for us know one would even give him a 2nd glance , Neverton have definitely had their pants pulled down,

We get it. You don't like McNeil.

HiThere · Post by **HiThere** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:56 pm

Rumpelstiltskin wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:54 pm
Very poor Everton side against a very average Liverpool side.

Sums it up very well.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:57 pm

Rumpelstiltskin wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:54 pm
Very poor Everton side against a very average Liverpool side.

I’d probably disagree with you on Liverpool. I thought they were better than average tonight. But Everton looked very poor tonight. I’ve seen that Everton performance many times this season.

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:57 pm

Everton poor tonight-but what a poor bench SD has. Think Gray unlucky not to start-he is more effective than Dwight, but suspect SD feels he has to play DM. If Everton play like that at home the crowd will quickly turn on them

willsclarets · Post by **willsclarets** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:59 pm

Rumpelstiltskin wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:54 pm
Very poor Everton side against a very average Liverpool side.

They've been very average this season, but they were really good tonight.

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:05 pm

Amadou Onana was awful he cost as much as our entire team £31m
Obviously our Belgian scouts are better than Evertons

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:08 pm

Haven’t changed my opinion that failure to bring in a striker before the January window closed would send Everton down. Lowest scoring team in the PL and having to rely on Ellis Simms is a sign of desperation.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:12 pm

kentonclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:08 pm
Haven’t changed my opinion that failure to bring in a striker before the January window closed would send Everton down. Lowest scoring team in the PL and having to rely on Ellis Simms is a sign of desperation.

Richarlison saved them last season with his late season purple patch, however unless they can get DCL off the treatment bench their survival prospects aren't looking healthy this season.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:25 pm

For those criticising Pickford tonight....

https://twitter.com/piesportsbooze/stat ... 6432636951

fatboy47 · Post by **fatboy47** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:29 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:25 pm
For those criticising Pickford tonight....

https://twitter.com/piesportsbooze/stat ... 6432636951

Stan Tastic · Post by **Stan Tastic** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:41 pm

Goalposts wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:50 pm
Ok ill take your point, you meant a lot more than you said and where not articulate enough to encompass all your thoughts and i should realise that where numerous things in the post that you didn’t say , and people who cant read your mind, worry you and give you cause for concern.

I should not point out any inaccuracy or deviance to your post as that will only upset you.. is that polite enough

Oh and just to be clear it was you who called muric - hoofing i referred to it as passing.

Let's leave it now before you embarrass yourself further.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:44 pm

Apart from last few minutes, Everton were poor, Dyche has a real job on his hands with that team.

HiThere · Post by **HiThere** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:46 pm

bfcjg wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:44 pm
Apart from last few minutes, Everton were poor, Dyche has a real job on his hands with that team.

Thinking you're right.

HiThere · Post by **HiThere** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:50 pm

Dyche is talking shite.

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:56 pm

Fine Margins, group, feel

Buzzword tombola starts again

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:57 pm

He should slip in, “it augers well for the future”

HiThere · Post by **HiThere** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:58 pm

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:56 pm
Fine Margins, group, feel

Buzzword tombola starts again

It makes me think they will go down.

1882Clarets1882 · Post by **1882Clarets1882** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:04 pm

Next game for Everton. Leeds.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:07 pm

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:57 pm
He should slip in, “it augers well for the future”

We didn’t need reminding about him

HiThere · Post by **HiThere** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:10 pm

1882Clarets1882 wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:04 pm
Next game for Everton. Leeds.

Horrible fixture for both teams.

Clarky · Post by **Clarky** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:27 pm

How does Iwobi make a living put of football. I would not have him giving and playing for nowt!

Clarky · Post by **Clarky** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:28 pm

Given!

Billy Balfour · Post by **Billy Balfour** » Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:23 am

Everton should have sacked Lampard at the beginning of the year, but they left it too late. If they get beat on Sunday, they are down.

tarkys_ears · Post by **tarkys_ears** » Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:27 am

Well yeah they should, and a couple of weeks earlier they wouldn't have been stuck with Dyche.

Paddy1882 · Post by **Paddy1882** » Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:36 am

I’d put my neck out and say our team/squad last season is better than Everton’s this and how many games did he win before leaving 4 or 5? He needs to get that squad performing better against direct relegation rivals than he did ours last season or they are gone.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:36 am

Billy Balfour wrote: ↑
Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:23 am
Everton should have sacked Lampard at the beginning of the year, but they left it too late. If they get beat on Sunday, they are down.

I think that’s pushing it a bit. 15 games to go after the Leeds game.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:03 am

Quite the overreaction on here. Everton just beat top of the league Arsenal, and have just lost to Liverpool. I think most people would consider 3 points from those two fixtures a very good return.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Feb 14, 2023 10:09 am

Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑
Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:36 am
I think that’s pushing it a bit. 15 games to go after the Leeds game.

Yes plenty of games to play yet, and Everton were in a similar pickle last season and got out of it.

Everton's next 6 are

Leeds (H)
Villa (H)
Arsenal (a)
Forest (a)
Brentford (H)
Chelsea (a)

I can see points out of those 6, especially their 3 home fixtures, and their home form saved them last term.

daveisaclaret · Post by **daveisaclaret** » Tue Feb 14, 2023 10:30 am

Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:03 am
Quite the overreaction on here. Everton just beat top of the league Arsenal, and have just lost to Liverpool. I think most people would consider 3 points from those two fixtures a very good return.

Quite funny isn't it? We lost 2-0 at Liverpool last season, I imagine anyone talking about it in the terms this Everton defeat is being put in would have been run off the board.

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Tue Feb 14, 2023 10:38 am

One of the pundits on SKY , maybe Carragher , made a good point. Everton are capable of not letting a goal in,and whilst they keep it like this have a chance of sneaking a win, but when they do go 1-0 down its unlikely they can score one or more, and in attempting to do so leave themselves open to the counter-attack. They also don't have the defenders who can handle a quick counter attack as they clearly showed. I can see SD coming in for Charlie Taylor in Summer whether they stay up or go down

The biggest challenge Dyche has is ensuring in home games the crowd don't turn on the team, as they seem to have a number of players who lack that fight on a sustained basis

turfytopper · Post by **turfytopper** » Tue Feb 14, 2023 10:39 am

I am obviously in the minority but I'd love to see Everton relegated. Nothing to do with Sean Dyche or McNeil and Tarkowski all 3 of which I'll always regard as wonderful Clarets.

Silkyskills1 · Post by **Silkyskills1** » Tue Feb 14, 2023 10:40 am

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:57 pm
But Everton looked very poor tonight. I’ve seen that Everton performance many times this season.

I saw that Everton performance many times over the last couple of seasons.

Tricky Trevor · Post by **Tricky Trevor** » Tue Feb 14, 2023 10:46 am

warksclaret wrote: ↑
Tue Feb 14, 2023 10:38 am
They also don't have the defenders who can handle a quick counter attack as they clearly showed. I can see SD coming in for Charlie Taylor in Summer whether they stay up or go down

Not the defenders fault. They were all ahead of the ball after Tarks hit the post and Dwights shot was blocked but not enough had stayed back and the ones that had didn’t have the pace.
I wouldn’t rate Charlie above Mykolenko, it’s the RB needs sorting. Colemans lost his legs and they should play Goddard there.

Conroysleftfoot · Post by **Conroysleftfoot** » Tue Feb 14, 2023 10:48 am

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:54 pm
Horrible is Robertson

Very glad he decided to join Liverpool and not us a few years ago. Can be really obnoxious.

NottsClaret · Post by **NottsClaret** » Tue Feb 14, 2023 11:06 am

Conroysleftfoot wrote: ↑
Tue Feb 14, 2023 10:48 am
Very glad he decided to join Liverpool and not us a few years ago. Can be really obnoxious.

Not as happy as he is, I'd imagine.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Tue Feb 14, 2023 11:09 am

Thought Everton were the better side until the first, but that seemed to lift a huge weight of Liverpool and they won with ease after that

Both Pickford for the 1st, and Coady for the 2nd have to do a lot better as well

Its a tough job, because that midfield three that Everton have is big, strong, fast, powerful (in theory) and they showed none of that last night

McNeil was one of Evertons better players 1st half as well