Weghorst

[quoonbeatz]

United fans like him, apart from his shooting, they love how much work he puts in and it's vital to how they're playing at the moment. He isn't scoring goals but he doesn't need to be. Weird considering he had a good record in Germany but he seems to fire straight at the keeper with everything just now.

Can't see him wanting to play for us after he's won stuff with United and I think they'll want to keep him anyway as a squad man

[Darthlaw]

Being serious for a sec Darthlaw, I hope WW is signed by United because it gets him off our wage books

But if his attitude is right, and he's happy to come back here under VK and playing our style, then I'm more than happy to see him back here next season where I'll think he brings all the attributes he is currently showing for United

Win/win for us

We can agree on hoping they sign him and the reasoning why, for sure. I think he'll end up elsewhere but it just wont be at Old Trafford.

I'm not sure about wanting him back. His reasons for leaving were sound, so I don't have an issue there, but I still have nightmares about those chances he missed for us (particularly that criminal 1 on 1 against Liverpool). I've also had a look at the goals he scored for Besiktas which we're similar to Brereton Diaz in terms of stuffiness, which don't inspire me with confidence he'd get 5 goals in our side all season.

Ultimately as long as he's elsewhere and we have brass to spend on his replacement, I'm happy.

[Spijed]

We can agree on hoping they sign him and the reasoning why, for sure. I think he'll end up elsewhere but it just wont be at Old Trafford.

I'm not sure about wanting him back. His reasons for leaving were sound, so I don't have an issue there, but I still have nightmares about those chances he missed for us (particularly that criminal 1 on 1 against Liverpool). I've also had a look at the goals he scored for Besiktas which we're similar to Brereton Diaz in terms of stuffiness, which don't inspire me with confidence he'd get 5 goals in our side all season.

Ultimately as long as he's elsewhere and we have brass to spend on his replacement, I'm happy.

But surely he's a better option than Barnes as he's technically far better.

[Croydon Claret]

Aside from what Connor Roberts said to him on the pitch is there any evidence of him having a bad attitude whilst at Burnley?

[Devils_Advocate]

I rate Weghorst and think he has offered a lot more to Man Utd than some people on here give credit for. I also think he would fit perfectly into our system and is a step up from both Jay and Barnes.

That said we ain't getting any money for either Jay or Barnes so I would much rather VK get £10-15m to spend for Weghorst and we keep one of the other two as 4th choice back up as opposed to keeping Weghorst (plus one of Jay or Barnes) and getting no money

Thats not a dig at Weghorst but I just think VK could do better with the money

[Cirrus_Minor]

I have never rated him. For such a tall player, he is poor in the air, he doesn't have much pace, and he is not a natural goalscorer. But he is good at close control and quick passing, and his size seems to be occupying defenders and allowing space for Rushford to exploit. It is difficult to argue, though, with the success they are having with him in their team.

I would be surprised if they take him on permanently. If they get the arab backers that have been mentioned, then I would expect them to buy Kane, who can do the same Job AND score goals.

[Claretmisterg]

Will have been nice yesterday to be on the pitch to celebrate a goal with his colleagues. They usually tend to score within minutes of him being substituted.

I would suggest that its Man Utd's success is more down to the solid defence of Martinez and Varane, the Makelele like presence of Casemero and unbelievable form of Rashford, rather than Weghorst tracking back and running round a lot.

If Man Utd arent looking to upgrade on him, I'd be astounded.

I am in complete agreement. Casimiro and Martinez instead of Ronaldo and Maguire, and an in form Rashford, have reinvigorated ManUre. Weghorst is obviously playing a role but it’s a minor one.

[equinox]

Notice how Newcastle have struggled without Chris Wood.

[beeholeclaret]

I am in complete agreement. Casimiro and Martinez instead of Ronaldo and Maguire, and an in form Rashford, have reinvigorated ManUre. Weghorst is obviously playing a role but it’s a minor one.

Dont forget World Cup winner Pogba who had all the skills in the world but spent much of the time shrugging his shoulders and looking up into the sky if his team mates didnt pass to him and such like. He loved playing to the gallery but was unlikely to roll his sleeves up and tackle back if he wasn't in the mood. Dont think United fans called him "Pogsh*te" because they all loved him!

[fatboy47]

Wow! So the biggest club in the world (possibly) who are doing extremely well and really getting their act together on the pitch, have decided to use a player who is a bit crap in a key role, and to employ a halfwit manager who's way behind half this messageboard in his thinking.

[Taffy on the wing]

I rate Weghorst and think he has offered a lot more to Man Utd than some people on here give credit for. I also think he would fit perfectly into our system and is a step up from both Jay and Barnes.

That said we ain't getting any money for either Jay or Barnes so I would much rather VK get £10-15m to spend for Weghorst and we keep one of the other two as 4th choice back up as opposed to keeping Weghorst (plus one of Jay or Barnes) and getting no money

Thats not a dig at Weghorst but I just think VK could do better with the money

I think we spent the Weghorst money on Foster already.......jus a hunch.

[equinox]

I think we spent the Weghorst money on Foster already.......jus a hunch.

If your hunch is correct, I hope there's a bit more left in the pot.

[DanH90]

I have never rated him. For such a tall player, he is poor in the air, he doesn't have much pace, and he is not a natural goalscorer. But he is good at close control and quick passing, and his size seems to be occupying defenders and allowing space for Rushford to exploit. It is difficult to argue, though, with the success they are having with him in their team.

I would be surprised if they take him on permanently. If they get the arab backers that have been mentioned, then I would expect them to buy Kane, who can do the same Job AND score goals.

Can’t understand the ‘tall, must be good in the air ’ argument. Peter Crouch wasn’t that good in the air but was a great link man. As is Weghorst.
He is doing exactly what ETH needs him to do, it wasn’t Weghorst’s fault that Dyche just assumed he could be a target man because he is 6’6.

[PremierLeagueClass]

Can’t understand the ‘tall, must be good in the air ’ argument. Peter Crouch wasn’t that good in the air but was a great link man. As is Weghorst.
He is doing exactly what ETH needs him to do, it wasn’t Weghorst’s fault that Dyche just assumed he could be a target man because he is 6’6.

Crouch holds the record for most headed goals in Premier League history.

[Paul Waine]

Interesting listening to Vincent Kompany responding to a question about Wout Weghorst in the Fleetwood press call. He praised him for his cup success. Moderated, a little, because WW has done it with ManU, while VK was a City player.

UTC

[TonbridgeClaret]

Crouch holds the record for most headed goals in Premier League history.

That's right. Exactly half of his Premier League goals were headers.

[CoolClaret]

Crouch holds the record for most headed goals in Premier League history.

There’s a difference between hearing ability towards goal vs winning 50/50s and long balls.

Wout is terrible as a head on a stick but has scored some bloody good headers - same with Crouch

[CoolClaret]

In heading ability **

[jojomk1]

For me, only person who thought Weghorst was a head on a stick was Dyche, hence we saw very little of his true attributes

Maybe Weghorst was p!ssed off with that tactic hence his attitude was not at its best

Just an opinion

[PremierLeagueClass]

Getting some rave reviews tonight.

[It Is What It Is]

I really cannot think of any other Burnley player in the history of the club has been so villified by the club's fans.
Making club history for all the wrong reasons.

[Belgianclaret]

Forget about Weghorst, he’s history

As VK says: Trust the process

[tiger76]

Getting some rave reviews tonight.

Good we might have a chance of recouping our outlay if he continues to impress.

[burnleymik]

He's doing what most of us on here always thought he was good at, off the ball work rate and linking up play. The problem was that we needed him to get the goals too. Fingers crossed it works out well for all parties and he gets a big move and we make our money back, or even a profit.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Richard Keys reckons WW is the worst player utd have ever signed....
I can think of a few that are much worse.
Prunier being one.

[IanMcL]

Keys being a fine football authority, of course!

[roperclaret]

Richard Keys reckons WW is the worst player utd have ever signed....
I can think of a few that are much worse.
Prunier being one.

Keys is and has always been a complete cockdrop

[CoolClaret]

Keys should be ignored, I feel ashamed even mentioning him.

A complete cockhead

[LeadBelly]

Can somebody clear up for me please... is Keys a cockdrop or a cockhead (or can he be both)?

[NewClaret]

There’s no way Weghorst starts nearly every game for United and then ETH sends him back to us.

He’s also kissing United fans arses so hard it’s sickening. A move is lined up and most likely agreed, I’d say. Unfortunately he’s not done well enough to warrant a bigger fee than the €10m in the Besiktas contract. But United will pay that, we shouldn’t get greedy - take it & run.

[Darthlaw]

There’s no way Weghorst starts nearly every game for United and then ETH sends him back to us.

He’s also kissing United fans arses so hard it’s sickening. A move is lined up and most likely agreed, I’d say. Unfortunately he’s not done well enough to warrant a bigger fee than the €10m in the Besiktas contract. But United will pay that, we shouldn’t get greedy - take it & run.

Also, there’s no way Weghorst starts every game if other forwards are match fit. Strangely they could probably play Maguire up front and achieve the same output they’re getting from Weghorst, currently.

I can’t see any PL clubs coming in for him as seemingly he can put the ball in the back of the net everywhere else but there.