Burnley documentary coming to Sky from this season

[martin_p]

That those concerns are misplaced, perhaps; that I've got an over-active immune system to this kind of stuff; or maybe it tells me that everything is given a pass because of promotion and because we're back in the same league we were a year ago; or maybe it tells me that Burney fans are every bit as bewitched by success as Newcastle, PSG, and City fans. I'm not asking for boycotts, I'd just rather people not freely offer themselves up as apologists.

Apologists for what? It must be something pretty bad if your equating it to the human rights abuses of the Saudi regimes that prop up the clubs you mention.

[Spiral]

Second person to misrepresent me on this thread. Is that the only way you can counterargue?

Apologists for owners who exploit football clubs in pursuit of ends beyond sport, community and profit.

From earlier:

Total misrepresentation of what I've said in this thread. I was explicit in my original post that Mormonism and gulf state politics and practices are not comparable. I'm concerning myself with the practice of using a brand (sports clubs in this case) as a means to some end outside the brand itself. Morality and ethics proceed in gradations.

[martin_p]

Second person to misrepresent me on this thread. Is that the only way you can counterargue?

Apologists for owners who exploit football clubs in pursuit of ends beyond sport, community and profit.

From earlier:

If that’s your argument in what way are you separating church from community?

Besides, the argument can’t be that black and white. There’s clearly a difference between people using football to ‘sports wash’ human rights abuse and those seeking to promote a fairly benign religion (if indeed that is the case as you suspect).

[Spiral]

If that’s your argument in what way are you separating church from community?

Besides, the argument can’t be that black and white. There’s clearly a difference between people using football to ‘sports wash’ human rights abuse and those seeking to promote a fairly benign religion (if indeed that is the case as you suspect).

If a chain of association is to be drawn from Burnley FC to community, then community to church, it must also by the necessity of community being associated to church draw that chain to all religions practiced in the Burnley community. When Burnley FC participates in, involve itself with, and welcomes every member of its community, it associates itself with the faiths of its communities only by proxy of the people involved in those communities without actually positioning itself as a quasi-institution of the religious community in which it involves itself or reaches out to. As actual literal missionaries, our owners are in the position of being able to take this community asset and utilise its power and force to their religious ends.

Observe the ends: the ends of Burnley FC's community outreach is not the advancement of those religions belonging to those communities to which it reaches out, but rather the end to which it aspires is the participation of those people in the club by the process of establishing and maintaining itself as a community asset which people relate to under the commonality of the sport of football. When, in our case, Mormon owners use their position within the club to hitch Mormonism to the brand of Burnley FC, the ends lie in the evangelical, not the club itself. In the former instance, the club is a service unto itself, in the latter, to Mormonism. The club may come to be viewed as a quasi-institution of the Mormon church by dint of its administrators not only being prominent missionaries, but also by those same administrators utilising the club's name in branding exercises for their religion. In its nature this is a very different thing indeed to Burnley FC's outreach, which subordinates itself to the community in line with the will of that community to be reached out to by its football club. You might say it is naturally democratic (if we make the assumption that most of the football fans in Burnley are Burnley fans). If Burnley FC were to be used as a branding exercise for the Mormon church by the people who own the club, this would represent a use of Burnley FC to ends outside itself. This is not a baggage I would want the club to carry. Think of the ignominy of Blackburn Rovers being used as a vehicle to increase the prestige of the Venky's portfolio. I shouldn't need to explain any further than this.

[CoolClaret]

Yes - I love everything that's happening, but harbour the same concerns as Spiral over the title 'Mission' and its religious overtones.

I picked up on that as well and echo the same sentiments.

[Spiral]

Let me continue a bit more with what I mean at the end of my last post with some admittedly imperfect, fictional but plausible sentences that might be spoken, to serve as illustrative examples.

Wolfsburg? That's the Volkswagen club, innit?
Blackburn? That's the chicken farm people? (admittedly we're more alert to this than most due to them being our rivals)
Newcastle? The blood money lot? Kashoggi?
Chelsea? You mean Chelski? (formerly)
Forest Green? Oh, Greenpeace FC?
Burnley? Oh, the Mormon lot?

Our brand can't be used to put a virtuous and pleasant face on a religion, or any other thing, without it being encumbered by it. The question for me is not whether Mormonism is a good thing to be associated with (it's benign, it's harmless, they all seem like really nice people, and Pace seems lovely), the point is that I don't like the club being used in this way. Principle, not consequences. This is what I'm vigilant about. There's naff all I can do about it, but I can decide how I react to it.

[CoolClaret]

Let me continue a bit more with what I mean at the end of my last post with some admittedly imperfect, fictional but plausible sentences that might be spoken, to serve as illustrative examples.

Wolfsburg? That's the Volkswagen club, innit?
Blackburn? That's the chicken farm people? (admittedly we're more alert to this than most due to them being our rivals)
Newcastle? The blood money lot? Kashoggi?
Chelsea? You mean Chelski? (formerly)
Forest Green? Oh, Greenpeace FC?
Burnley? Oh, the Mormon lot?

Our brand can't be used to put a virtuous and pleasant face on a religion, or any other thing, without it being encumbered by it. The question for me is not whether Mormonism is a good thing to be associated with (it's benign, it's harmless, they all seem like really nice people, and Pace seems lovely), the point is that I don't like the club being used in this way. Principle, not consequences. This is what I'm vigilant about. There's naff all I can do about it, but I can decide how I react to it.

The title of the doc and the snippet of the speech Pace made suggests it will have a religious element for sure, which I can’t say that I’d be please about.

I won’t totally write it off or anything but will remain reserved.

I suppose it’s better to be known as the Mormon lot than Brexit FC - I think?!

[ArmchairDetective]

Just trying to catch up on this thread. Forgive me if I've missed some stuff. But my initial thoughts are:

A) the reason the original video was taken down by sky was because the final shot said 'Misson to Burnley', a typo. It's since been corrected.

B) I'll be absolutely delighted if they're 'gonna make so much money'. Mutual interests. Much rather that than they lose so much money.

To once again quote PW: Exciting times.

[Spiral]

"Gonna mane so much money" is 100% going to be sarcasm about how difficult and complicated it is to run a football club. No problem with that line even out of context. His tone reveals the context.

[Vegas Claret]

I was going to read this thread, I saw this last page and I truly can't be arsed with the self important drama

[johnnyjones]

Not out till September, makes me think its still a work in progress with the summer transfer dealings and Kompany speculation of will he leave etc

[CharlieinNewMexico]

If a chain of association is to be drawn from Burnley FC to community, then community to church, it must also by the necessity of community being associated to church draw that chain to all religions practiced in the Burnley community. When Burnley FC participates in, involve itself with, and welcomes every member of its community, it associates itself with the faiths of its communities only by proxy of the people involved in those communities without actually positioning itself as a quasi-institution of the religious community in which it involves itself or reaches out to. As actual literal missionaries, our owners are in the position of being able to take this community asset and utilise its power and force to their religious ends.

Observe the ends: the ends of Burnley FC's community outreach is not the advancement of those religions belonging to those communities to which it reaches out, but rather the end to which it aspires is the participation of those people in the club by the process of establishing and maintaining itself as a community asset which people relate to under the commonality of the sport of football. When, in our case, Mormon owners use their position within the club to hitch Mormonism to the brand of Burnley FC, the ends lie in the evangelical, not the club itself. In the former instance, the club is a service unto itself, in the latter, to Mormonism. The club may come to be viewed as a quasi-institution of the Mormon church by dint of its administrators not only being prominent missionaries, but also by those same administrators utilising the club's name in branding exercises for their religion. In its nature this is a very different thing indeed to Burnley FC's outreach, which subordinates itself to the community in line with the will of that community to be reached out to by its football club. You might say it is naturally democratic (if we make the assumption that most of the football fans in Burnley are Burnley fans). If Burnley FC were to be used as a branding exercise for the Mormon church by the people who own the club, this would represent a use of Burnley FC to ends outside itself. This is not a baggage I would want the club to carry. Think of the ignominy of Blackburn Rovers being used as a vehicle to increase the prestige of the Venky's portfolio. I shouldn't need to explain any further than this.

Might be the worst post I’ve ever seen on UTC and even possibly CM. Ridiculous. Just parroting this ridiculous verbosity and promoting religious bigotism. Who cares? Everyone is equal, man. This is 2023. (I assume you’re a male but will adhere to your preferred pronouns if different). And no, don’t reply and debate me, that’s my humble opinion. Peace out I’ll log back in in about 2 months

[Lord_Bob]

Pace is a Mormon. Mormons go on missions. Pace buys Burnley with a mission to make them a successful club. Sky uses a play on words in the title of their documentary and we get 4 pages of drivel saying Burnley will now be only known as the "Mormon Club?"

To use a religious term - Christ on a bike - get over yourselves! It's a play on words.

Sheesh, this board sometimes (actually most of the time).

[martin_p]

Pace is a Mormon. Mormons go on missions. Pace buys Burnley with a mission to make them a successful club. Sky uses a play on words in the title of their documentary and we get 4 pages of drivel saying Burnley will now be only known as the "Mormon Club?"

To use a religious term - Christ on a bike - get over yourselves! It's a play on words.

Sheesh, this board sometimes (actually most of the time).

I was going to write a long response to Spiral the saw this which sums it up perfectly. Just to add, if Pace wanted to use Burnley to promote his religion don’t you think we’d have seen it happen by now? Some people prefer to infer something from 3 seconds of footage and a play on words rather than look at the 2 years plus that Pace has been chairman.

[Rileybobs]

The pile on that Spiral has received is both funny yet sadly predictable. Anyone who dares to display any critical thinking or dares to make a comment that isn’t 100% happy clappy about everything BFC is usually rounded upon. Be that honest appraisals of a player’s performances or justified concern about the club being placed under a transfer embargo. “We’ve just won the league at Ewood, why can’t you just enjoy it” - it comes across like a lot of you are emotionally unstable.

Firstly, I’m very excited that there’s a documentary about Burnley, I’m sure it will be great and what a fantastic way to capture such a good season. But I also share the same thoughts as Spiral. The use of the word ‘Mission’ in the title is not coincidental, the short trailer also shows a religious wedding and a rather out of place speech by Pace in the hospitality lounge telling people to ‘let the Heavenly Father be part of their dreams’.

This suggests that Pace’s faith will be the sub-plot in this film. I don’t necessarily have an issue with that but I hope this is a sports documentary rather than a piece of religious propaganda based around a sports club.

[arise_sir_charge]

The pile on that Spiral has received is both funny yet sadly predictable. Anyone who dares to display any critical thinking or dares to make a comment that isn’t 100% happy clappy about everything BFC is usually rounded upon. Be that honest appraisals of a player’s performances or justified concern about the club being placed under a transfer embargo. “We’ve just won the league at Ewood, why can’t you just enjoy it” - it comes across like a lot of you are emotionally unstable.

Firstly, I’m very excited that there’s a documentary about Burnley, I’m sure it will be great and what a fantastic way to capture such a good season. But I also share the same thoughts as Spiral. The use of the word ‘Mission’ in the title is not coincidental, the short trailer also shows a religious wedding and a rather out of place speech by Pace in the hospitality lounge telling people to ‘let the Heavenly Father be part of their dreams’.

This suggests that Pace’s faith will be the sub-plot in this film. I don’t necessarily have an issue with that but I hope this is a sports documentary rather than a piece of religious propaganda based around a sports club.

Pile one? Give it a rest Riley.

If you’re a so called critical thinker and you stick your head above the parapet with an edgy opinion expect for that opinion to be questioned and critiqued, surely that’s exactly what he wanted to happen.

Comparing someone essentially warning a load of adults to be vigilant around brainwashing in a sports documentary to a disagreement on player performance is a bit daft as well.

[martin_p]

The pile on that Spiral has received is both funny yet sadly predictable. Anyone who dares to display any critical thinking or dares to make a comment that isn’t 100% happy clappy about everything BFC is usually rounded upon. Be that honest appraisals of a player’s performances or justified concern about the club being placed under a transfer embargo. “We’ve just won the league at Ewood, why can’t you just enjoy it” - it comes across like a lot of you are emotionally unstable.

Firstly, I’m very excited that there’s a documentary about Burnley, I’m sure it will be great and what a fantastic way to capture such a good season. But I also share the same thoughts as Spiral. The use of the word ‘Mission’ in the title is not coincidental, the short trailer also shows a religious wedding and a rather out of place speech by Pace in the hospitality lounge telling people to ‘let the Heavenly Father be part of their dreams’.

This suggests that Pace’s faith will be the sub-plot in this film. I don’t necessarily have an issue with that but I hope this is a sports documentary rather than a piece of religious propaganda based around a sports club.

I just don’t get why people can’t cope with people disagreeing on here. Challenging someone’s opinion is not ‘piling on’.

[Rileybobs]

Pile one? Give it a rest Riley.

If you’re a so called critical thinker and you stick your head above the parapet with an edgy opinion expect for that opinion to be questioned and critiqued, surely that’s exactly what he wanted to happen.

Comparing someone essentially warning a load of adults to be vigilant around brainwashing in a sports documentary to a disagreement on player performance is a bit daft as well.

Yes a pile on, a few examples;

‘Bore off.’

‘Stop moaning about it then and spinning a negative view on it, if your going to watch it anyway, just enjoy it’

‘I was going to read this thread, I saw this last page and I truly can't be arsed with the self important drama’

[Rileybobs]

I just don’t get why people can’t cope with people disagreeing on here. Challenging someone’s opinion is not ‘piling on’.

You may have challenged Spiral’s opinion Martin, I wouldn’t say that you are part of the pile on. Others have just sniped at his comments without an attempt to engage, I’ve posted a few examples above.

I’m not sure if you’re suggesting that I can’t cope with others disagreeing, but that’s definitely not true. I just see a trend on here where anyone who dares to voice an opinion that isn’t wholly positive is dismissed because apparently they can’t hold a particular view when we’ve had such a fantastic season on this pitch. Like I say, it suggests an emotional instability.

[arise_sir_charge]

Yes a pile on, a few examples;

‘Bore off.’

‘Stop moaning about it then and spinning a negative view on it, if your going to watch it anyway, just enjoy it’

‘I was going to read this thread, I saw this last page and I truly can't be arsed with the self important drama’

That is far from a “pile on”.

[Rileybobs]

That is far from a “pile on”.

Describe it as you wish. People unnecessarily sniping without bothering to counter his argument.

[arise_sir_charge]

Describe it as you wish. People unnecessarily sniping without bothering to counter his argument.

I offered a counter opinion and got a bar room psychology lecture in reply, hence the ‘bore off’ comment.

Spiral clearly considers himself superior to the other posters and is very clear in that view, he will get sniped at. I’m sure he’s tough enough to cope.

[xxmunkyennuixx]

The pile on that Spiral has received is both funny yet sadly predictable. Anyone who dares to display any critical thinking or dares to make a comment that isn’t 100% happy clappy about everything BFC is usually rounded upon. Be that honest appraisals of a player’s performances or justified concern about the club being placed under a transfer embargo. “We’ve just won the league at Ewood, why can’t you just enjoy it” - it comes across like a lot of you are emotionally unstable.

Firstly, I’m very excited that there’s a documentary about Burnley, I’m sure it will be great and what a fantastic way to capture such a good season. But I also share the same thoughts as Spiral. The use of the word ‘Mission’ in the title is not coincidental, the short trailer also shows a religious wedding and a rather out of place speech by Pace in the hospitality lounge telling people to ‘let the Heavenly Father be part of their dreams’.

This suggests that Pace’s faith will be the sub-plot in this film. I don’t necessarily have an issue with that but I hope this is a sports documentary rather than a piece of religious propaganda based around a sports club.

The blurb on the club's website mentions his faith. People dismissing Spiral's concern on the basis of a title are acting disingenuously.

[jtv]

......... Pace in the hospitality lounge telling people to ‘let the Heavenly Father be part of their dreams’.

This suggests that Pace’s faith will be the sub-plot in this film. I don’t necessarily have an issue with that but I hope this is a sports documentary rather than a piece of religious propaganda based around a sports club.

So the Heavenly Father belongs to Mormons only? I am RC - am I an orphan now?

[Rileybobs]

I offered a counter opinion and got a bar room psychology lecture in reply, hence the ‘bore off’ comment.

Spiral clearly considers himself superior to the other posters and is very clear in that view, he will get sniped at. I’m sure he’s tough enough to cope.

You’re not doing your argument any favours. And I’m sure Spiral is more than tough enough to cope with some words on the internet - but I’m not making my point because I think he needs defending.

[arise_sir_charge]

So the Heavenly Father belongs to Mormons only? I am RC - am I an orphan now?

I’m fairly certain that clip is likely from his daughters wedding as opposed to a sermon delivered to the staff of Clearly Interiors, Warburtons and CWR Scaffolds before a horn game.

[criminalclaret]

I think “We’ll make so much money" comment is actually said in a tone that is taking the mickey - as in, everyone has a misconception of how easy it is to make money out of a football club and it's really not the case.

Exactly, lot of context missing here.

Could have been talking about a player (Zaroury, Benson, ....Kevin Long ) with the their value rocketing up after Vinnie's reign. Either way, can't wait for this to come out, it can only show the club in a good light.

I don't really care about any religious undertones if there business ventures at the Turf is built on solid foundations. We have plenty of Muslim owners of football clubs around the world, having a a hardcore American Catholic in there is hardly rocking the boat.

As a club, we have totally re-branded and modernised ourselves since Pace has been at the helm. Getting positive coverage of Burnley on the field has been amazing this season, to get some positive coverage off the field and of the town broadcasted far and wide is amazing. And let's face it, as a area we need that positive image. Wasn't too long ago since the idiots with the Man City plane banner getting broadcasted around the world for all the wrong reasons.

[Rileybobs]

So the Heavenly Father belongs to Mormons only? I am RC - am I an orphan now?

Where did I say the ‘Heavenly Father’ only belongs to Mormons? I think it’s an odd thing to say to a room full of Burnley fans enjoying hospitality at a football match, but he can say what he wants. My point was that scene being used in the short trailer, along with the wedding scene and the actual title of the film suggests that his faith is going to be a rather strong sub-plot at the very least.

[Rileybobs]

I’m fairly certain that clip is likely from his daughters wedding as opposed to a sermon delivered to the staff of Clearly Interiors, Warburtons and CWR Scaffolds before a horn game.

I wondered that, but the room didn’t look like it was full of people dressed for a wedding. It may well be though, time will tell.

[arise_sir_charge]

I wondered that, but the room didn’t look like it was full of people dressed for a wedding. It may well be though, time will tell.

Yes, time will tell, perhaps best that we don’t form staunch opinions at this point.

We are all well armed with Spiral’s warning now as well so thankfully that will have stopped a few being sucked in if it does turn out to be a recruitment campaign for the Mormon faith.

[martin_p]

The blurb on the club's website mentions his faith. People dismissing Spiral's concern on the basis of a title are acting disingenuously.

If this documentary had been made 60 years ago they would have focussed on Bob Lord’s butchers. Religion clearly plays a big part in his life so it would be odd not to mention it when it seems the documentary is largely from his point of view.

[Rileybobs]

Yes, time will tell, perhaps best that we don’t form staunch opinions at this point.

We are all well armed with Spiral’s warning now as well so thankfully that will have stopped a few being sucked in if it does turn out to be a recruitment campaign for the Mormon faith.

I’m not sure anyone has formed a staunch opinion. We’re just discussing the trailer which quite clearly shows that there will be a religious theme to the film.

[martin_p]

I’m not sure anyone has formed a staunch opinion. We’re just discussing the trailer which quite clearly shows that there will be a religious theme to the film.

I’m pretty sure the theme will be Burnley Football Club and Alan Pace, the fact that he attends church in his spare time doesn’t make it a theme.

[Pickles]

All this from a one minute clip.

[Rileybobs]

I’m pretty sure the theme will be Burnley Football Club and Alan Pace, the fact that he attends church in his spare time doesn’t make it a theme.

It’s literally called Mission to Burnley. Pace’s comments on the film;

’ “At its heart it’s a story of family, faith, friendship, and of course football, set during an amazing time, in a great town, and of course led by a very special manager in Vincent Kompany.”

[martin_p]

It’s literally called Mission to Burnley. Pace’s comments on the film;

’ “At its heart it’s a story of family, faith, friendship, and of course football, set during an amazing time, in a great town, and of course led by a very special manager in Vincent Kompany.”

Yes, faith is an aspect of his life, as I said ignoring it would be odd.

By the way, don’t watch the films ‘Mission to Mars’ and ‘Mission to the Unkown’ expecting some religious zealotry, you’ll be disappointed.

[Stan Tastic]

I assumed the title was Vince's mission to get Burnley back into the PL. It never crossed my mind that it could be referring to Mormonism.

[arise_sir_charge]

I assumed the title was Vince's mission to get Burnley back into the PL. It never crossed my mind that it could be referring to Mormonism.

You’ve been duped Stan, it’s nothing to do with football. It’s all about Mormonism. Or at least that’s what we have to guard against,

[Spiral]

I don't mind the snipes to be honest. Some people hate it, but others love reading that drama. I'm just happy to be involved to be honest! Someone on another thread a bit ago pretty much told me they hate my guts and all but admitted they wanted to smash my face in and I was like, 'yeah, no probs mate, I respect that opinion, hope you have a nice day,' and I meant it. There will be one or two people just reading this thread, not posting, who will think 'huh, didn't think about it that way', and once that idea has set in snipes look like impotent rage, and that's the drama people like to read.

[Lancasterclaret]

I don't mind the snipes to be honest. Some people hate it, but others love reading that drama. I'm just happy to be involved to be honest! Someone on another thread a bit ago pretty much told me they hate my guts and all but admitted they wanted to smash my face in and I was like, 'yeah, no probs mate, I respect that opinion, hope you have a nice day,' and I meant it. There will be one or two people just reading this thread, not posting, who will think 'huh, didn't think about it that way', and once that idea has set in snipes look like impotent rage, and that's the drama people like to read.

I don't mind the sniping, its the internet stalking I have an issue with

[Spiral]

By the way, don’t watch the films ‘Mission to Mars’ and ‘Mission to the Unkown’ expecting some religious zealotry, you’ll be disappointed.

The structure of grammar informs the way we think about the world, and the sentence 'Mission to Burnley', like 'Mission to Mars' or 'Mission to the Unknown', and to use another example, 'Mission to the Moon', privileges the journey maker (the subject) over the destination (the object). The choice of that sentence, whether the producers of the documentary realise they have done it or not, frames the media in such a way as to privilege the mission, and by extension the missionary carrying out the mission, over and above the destination, Burnley FC. If the producers putting the documentary together had at the front of their mind that the documentary's protagonist subject is Burnley FC, the title would reflect that, but somewhere, consciously or unconsciously, is the feeling that this documentary is actually about a Mormon who runs Burnley FC.

[Spiral]

I assumed the title was Vince's mission to get Burnley back into the PL. It never crossed my mind that it could be referring to Mormonism.

This post vindicates what I said two posts back about encouraging thinking about things it in a different way.

[Lancasterclaret]

If winning the title at Ewood Park is some sort of Mormon converting master plan, then sign me up!

[Clarets4me]

I think the clip featuring the " Heavenly father " mention from Mr Pace is to a visiting group of youngsters from his Church .... it is quite strong in Lancashire, there is a huge Mormon/Latter Day Saints Church next to the Chorley junction on the M61 ...

[martin_p]

The structure of grammar informs the way we think about the world, and the sentence 'Mission to Burnley', like 'Mission to Mars' or 'Mission to the Unknown', and to use another example, 'Mission to the Moon', privileges the journey maker (the subject) over the destination (the object). The choice of that sentence, whether the producers of the documentary realise they have done it or not, frames the media in such a way as to privilege the mission, and by extension the missionary carrying out the mission, over and above the destination, Burnley FC. If the producers putting the documentary together had at the front of their mind that the documentary's protagonist subject is Burnley FC, the title would reflect that, but somewhere, consciously or unconsciously, is the feeling that this documentary is actually about a Mormon who runs Burnley FC.

Well yes, the subject is Alan Pace and probably VK, but as I said before a documentary needs a hook. If there’s no human interest angle it effectively becomes an updated version of the ‘92 video ‘Burnley are Back’. Every football documentary you watch theses days will have a subject that isn’t the football club involved. If the subject is into religion it’ll show them being religious, if the subject spends a lot of time skydiving it’ll show them skydiving. As I said, if the documentary had been made 60 years ago it would have shown Bob Lord in his butchers.

[Spiral]

I think the clip featuring the " Heavenly father " mention from Mr Pace is to a visiting group of youngsters from his Church .... it is quite strong in Lancashire, there is a huge Mormon/Latter Day Saints Church next to the Chorley junction on the M61 ...

Biggest Mormon temple in Europe if I'm not mistaken. Cool looking building to be fair.

[123EasyasBFC]

The structure of grammar informs the way we think about the world, and the sentence 'Mission to Burnley', like 'Mission to Mars' or 'Mission to the Unknown', and to use another example, 'Mission to the Moon', privileges the journey maker (the subject) over the destination (the object). The choice of that sentence, whether the producers of the documentary realise they have done it or not, frames the media in such a way as to privilege the mission, and by extension the missionary carrying out the mission, over and above the destination, Burnley FC. If the producers putting the documentary together had at the front of their mind that the documentary's protagonist subject is Burnley FC, the title would reflect that, but somewhere, consciously or unconsciously, is the feeling that this documentary is actually about a Mormon who runs Burnley FC.

You can’t possibly think the sole purpose of the documentary is about a Mormon who runs Burnley

[Spiral]

Well yes, the subject is Alan Pace and probably VK, but as I said before a documentary needs a hook...

I don't want an Alan Pace doc, I don't even want a VK doc believe it or not (though I'd watch it because I love the bloke), I want a Burnley FC doc in which the people involved are characters defined in their relationship to Burnley FC, and not the other way. As lovely and personable as Alan is (and his football decisions have also been amazing), I don't want a Pace doc where the club he owns is the hook, to borrow your term. I don't want anything not consulted on or not agreed upon by supporters to be hitched to our success (relatively speaking, remember that we were relegated, too) as a football team, especially religion and spirituality, which I find to be completely and utterly ridiculous on almost every level, ceding only its humanistic capacity to console people and give them something to get up for in the morning, but even then I view it as little more than a convenient and useful delusion.

[Spiral]

You can’t possibly think the sole purpose of the documentary is about a Mormon who runs Burnley

I can't, no, because I haven't seen it, but the title and trailer frame it in such a way that it's not a leap to consider the possibility that the club's brand recognition and the Burnley FC story overall might be used as a vehicle for shining up the reputation of Mormonism.

[martin_p]

I don't want an Alan Pace doc, I don't even want a VK doc believe it or not (though I'd watch it because I love the bloke), I want a Burnley FC doc in which the people involved are characters defined in their relationship to Burnley FC, and not the other way. As lovely and personable as Alan is (and his football decisions have also been amazing), I don't want a Pace doc where the club he owns is the hook, to borrow your term. I don't want anything not consulted on or not agreed upon by supporters to be hitched to our success (relatively speaking, remember that we were relegated, too) as a football team, especially religion and spirituality, which I find to be completely and utterly ridiculous on almost every level, ceding only its humanistic capacity to console people and give them something to get up for in the morning, but even then I view it as little more than a convenient and useful delusion.

I’m glad we’ve finally got to the crux of the matter, you have a problem with religion.