Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

[RVclaret]

He'd need to put on about 2 stone to improve his physicality he's to lightweight for the physical part of the game

Not sure he’s any more lightweight than Benson, Tella and Zaroury. I thought it was noticeable in the last few that he’s improved in that sense too, won numerous duels and was getting stuck in.

[jrgbfc]

Scotty hardly featured last season, due to whatever his injury was, but when he did start playing last season he got better, and better. He starred against Cardiff, despite missing a couple of good chances. He's got quick feet, and a clever football brain, the only doubt I'd have is his physicality. Going on loan to the championship isn't going to improve that. I'd definitely keep him, and if he's up to the rigours, can see him being a regular starter.

Basically going straight from League 1 to the Prem is a huge jump, I just don't see it. For me he's better off playing regularly in the Championship than getting thrown off the bench for 20 minutes here and there. Time will tell I suppose.

[ksrclaret]

I’d say Twine was our best player against Cardiff and he seemed to relish the physical part of the game in a way I’d not seen him do before. He showed poor composure in front of goal a couple of times but then had the mental strength to stick the free kick away.

I think he’ll be a part of the squad next season, especially after a proper pre season (his was disrupted by injury and fatigue last season).

[taio]

I can only Twine leaving if there's another huge turnover of the squad which I can't see happening. Especially with the likes of Bastien and Churlinov ahead of Twine in that sense

[DCWat]

He'd need to put on about 2 stone to improve his physicality he's to lightweight for the physical part of the game

Plenty players of Twine’s size and stature who have more than held their own in the Premier League.

[claretspice]

I wouldn’t be surprised if Twine has been given a fitness plan for over the summer that includes increasing his strength. Adding a bit more physicality to his game would serve him well, next season.

Agree with this and had he not had that succession of niggling injuries, I suspect he'd have had a plan a bit like the one Beyer clearly had. It's not essential for Twine to become massive but he does need just a bit more core strength to hold off opponents (as, say, Blake had). Its clearly even more important in his position, but Beyer transformed his physique during the course of last season so there's an example there for others (Maatsen was also a good deal more robust in April when compared to August).

Suspect he's one who has a lot to gain from pre season (and this pre pre season Kompany has scheduled). I forgot about him earlier as he's another who can play off the left. He could be a player who comes into his own next season and he's a genuine alternative option in the 10 position as well.as wide left. That said if he doesn't shape up physically, he's got enough time on his contract for a loan to the Championship to be a realistic option.

[AGENT_CLARET]

Plenty players of Twine’s size and stature who have more than held their own in the Premier League.

Not many in the cm role he plays in

[claretspice]

Not many in the cm role he plays in

If that were true it'd be bad news for Josh Cullen. And quite a few at other clubs I can think of. Odegaard, say. Also Ward Prowse.

However, Twine is more of a 10. And there's loads in that position of his physique. He just needs a bit more core strength.

[jojomk1]

Not many in the cm role he plays in

When has Twine ever played CM - never Burnley and pretty much always No 10 for previous club

We need height and strength in midfield

[alwaysaclaret]

According to the Sunday express Pochettino is about to bin 11 off at Chelski, but no mention of maatsen being one of them, although one notable name is Ruben Loftus cheek, could he be of some use to us.

[Lancasterclaret]

According to the Sunday express Pochettino is about to bin 11 off at Chelski, but no mention of maatsen being one of them, although one notable name is Ruben Loftus cheek, could he be of some use to us.

Going to Milan

[Newcastleclaret93]

I wouldn’t be surprised if Twine has been given a fitness plan for over the summer that includes increasing his strength. Adding a bit more physicality to his game would serve him well, next season.

Does anyone really see twine featuring next season?

He’s been ok nothing more at championship level. I suspect VK has identified his role in the team as a key position to be upgraded

[taio]

Does anyone really see twine featuring next season?

He’s been ok nothing more at championship level. I suspect VK has identified his role in the team as a key position to be upgraded

Can't see him starting much at full strength but of course we need a strong squad not just starting eleven. Twine has done okay but there's plenty of scope for him to improve and some players need time to settle understandably.

[claretspice]

Does anyone really see twine featuring next season?

He’s been ok nothing more at championship level. I suspect VK has identified his role in the team as a key position to be upgraded

As above, depends if he can build his strength before next pre season proper. If he does then yes, I think he's got the technical ability and brain to contribute plenty next season. I'm not sure a season badly affected by niggling injuries is a fair point of reference.

[DCWat]

Does anyone really see twine featuring next season?

He’s been ok nothing more at championship level. I suspect VK has identified his role in the team as a key position to be upgraded

No players would ever make it if decisions were so knee jerk. Give them time to develop and accept that injuries, settling in and other factors may have contributed to him not being a success, in your eyes.

Give them a bit of time.

[RVclaret]

Does anyone really see twine featuring next season?

He’s been ok nothing more at championship level. I suspect VK has identified his role in the team as a key position to be upgraded

Twine got 3 goals and 1 assist in 555 minutes of Championship football, so around 1 direct goal contribution every 1.5 games. Just 5 starts in the league in total including 1 at home. In my opinion, had he been fit all season he would have easily cleared 10 goals.

As spice and others have alluded to, we would like him to work on his physique over the summer then come back and smash pre-season. The benefit of retaining / developing existing players is that 1. Good for morale and momentum 2. Saves money on replacing 3. Already fully understanding of the system and what VK wants.

[andyh]

Twine will do well in the Prem next season.

[Duffer_]

Twime will twell

[KRBFC]

I thought Twine got better and better and his season was obviously badly affected by injuries. Give him a full preseason and time to adjust and Im sure he’ll do well.

you would be an absolute fool to write off such a young talented kid so early. This lack of physicality is a weird argument because he’s never played CM for us and the PL is full of successful players who lack physicality especially in the Twine role (my nan would out lift David Silva)

[KRBFC]

How about we give these young players time to adjust and develop before writing them off?

Surely they’ve collectively earnt abit of patience


3 days after lifting the trophy there’s already posters on here wanting Muric replaced even after most agreed he was our most improved player throughout the season

[Pearcey]

Some fans angrily wrote off Jay and Barnes as well. Fans eh!

[jedi_master]

Twine was excellent against Cardiff and also had decent games away at Millwall, Reading and Rotherham. He scored two superb free kicks against WBA and Cardiff and undoubtedly would have been on or around 10 I reckon had he been fit all season.

Stunned anyone could watch him in that final game and not see the talent he has. He was unplayable and on another day takes home the match ball. I’m excited to see him after a pre season and after a few steaks and doughnuts. As a bare minimum, a great sub to have in a larger match day squad next season considering his set pieces.

[Boss Hogg]

Twine will be a good player for us going forward but he’s not ready for the Pl yet imo. He was signed for the Championship and needed a full season in the Championship imo. May need a loan out.

[JarrowClaret]

Does anyone really see twine featuring next season?

He’s been ok nothing more at championship level. I suspect VK has identified his role in the team as a key position to be upgraded

100% can see twine seeing plenty of action next season clearly he will have a fitness plan to follow so it will be dependant on his pre season but it wouldn’t surprise me to see him start in our first game of the season.

[4midable]

Twines not strong enough for prem
Needs a loan

[Nori1958]

Twines not strong enough for prem
Needs a loan

If that's the criteria, a few of our wingers must be going on loan then

[4midable]

If that's the criteria, a few of our wingers must be going on loan then

The ones who start for us will be fine in the prem
Twines not got the championship experience never mind prem..got a free kick on him but not seen much else

[Nori1958]

The ones who start for us will be fine in the prem
Twines not got the championship experience never mind prem..got a free kick on him but not seen much else

IAM sure they will be, but so will twine.

[NewClaret]

Scotty hardly featured last season, due to whatever his injury was, but when he did start playing last season he got better, and better. He starred against Cardiff, despite missing a couple of good chances. He's got quick feet, and a clever football brain, the only doubt I'd have is his physicality. Going on loan to the championship isn't going to improve that. I'd definitely keep him, and if he's up to the rigours, can see him being a regular starter.

It’s strange because I keep hearing people say he lacks the physicality but that was one of the things I was most surprised/impressed about last season. I thought he looked much bigger than he did pre-season, particularly towards the end of the season, and can’t remember him getting knocked off the ball or bullied once. Recall against Cardiff he chased a loose ball towards the Longside down, kept it in play, held two Cardiff players off and recovered the ball. Showed great determination and strength.

Interested to know when specifically he looked weak as I didn’t see it. Also think the PL is far more technical and that type of player is likely to look better in the PL.

[Vegas Claret]

The PL has plenty of physicality but what it has more than anything is an insane pace, sharp minded players fare better in the PL than the Championship - Twine is sharp

[colne-claret]

It’s literally not, franchi got a medal Casper didn’t, simple as that really

What’s medals got to do with my initial point of Casper being on the bench more? He has been on the bench more especially in the league. Go and check that facts if you wish.

[123EasyasBFC]

What’s medals got to do with my initial point of Casper being on the bench more? He has been on the bench more especially in the league. Go and check that facts if you wish.

My point wasn’t who had been on the bench more, it was countering your point as to who the number 3 is and the fact that franchi received a medal and Casper didn’t shows he is the number 3

[Ampth7]

My point wasn’t who had been on the bench more, it was countering your point as to who the number 3 is and the fact that franchi received a medal and Casper didn’t shows he is the number 3

Casper, Franchi….. who cares, I’m more interested in who will be our number 1 next year!!

[colne-claret]

Casper, Franchi….. who cares, I’m more interested in who will be our number 1 next year!!

Muric. Deserves it.

[colne-claret]

My point wasn’t who had been on the bench more, it was countering your point as to who the number 3 is and the fact that franchi received a medal and Casper didn’t shows he is the number 3

I think we will have to agree to disagree on this one regardless of who’s currently third choice, I wouldn’t be surprised to see an upgrade. Casper and Franchi could both probably do with a loan.

[Ampth7]

Muric. Deserves it.

Unless……….

[burnley007]

Unless……….

Verbruggen

[Ampth7]

Verbruggen

As much as I like Muric for his playing out style of play, there is no room for sentiment, so if VK signs someone like Verbruggen, Muric will come under pressure next season which can only be a good thing in my opinion.

[ClaretAL]

In one sense I do understand the concerns around Twine’s physicality, however I liken Twine in his game and build similar to James Ward Prowse and he didn’t struggle.

That said looking at some of player VK is reportedly watching as defensive midfielders I can only presume he is thinking of playing Brownhill as a 10 as surely it would be hard to drop Cullen and Brownhill but I do understand the need for fresh legs for Cork

[NewClaret]

As much as I like Muric for his playing out style of play, there is no room for sentiment, so if VK signs someone like Verbruggen, Muric will come under pressure next season which can only be a good thing in my opinion.

Definitely agree that all players should have genuine competition for their place.

Verbruggen apparently on United radar though, unfortunately.

[Spijed]

Definitely agree that all players should have genuine competition for their place.

Verbruggen apparently on United radar though, unfortunately.

Unfortunately that's not always possible to get two very good players for each position with a limited budget.

[colne-claret]

As much as I like Muric for his playing out style of play, there is no room for sentiment, so if VK signs someone like Verbruggen, Muric will come under pressure next season which can only be a good thing in my opinion.

He no doubt needs extra competition for no 1 but I believe he deserves the chance to start the season as our no 1. Whether he finishes the season as no 1 is a different story. I think he improved a lot over the course of this season.

[NewClaret]

Unfortunately that's not always possible to get two very good players for each position with a limited budget.

I’d argue that this year has proved that you can get very good young players quite cheaply. For example, if we brought a new #10 in, I’d say Twine would provide very good competition. Plus you can use loans and free transfers. Say we signed Maatsen for a fee and took Manning, for example. Not suggesting it’s easy but I’d argue we have pretty good competition for places already, it’s just a case of strengthening a handful of positions with more quality.

[jojomk1]

In one sense I do understand the concerns around Twine’s physicality, however I liken Twine in his game and build similar to James Ward Prowse and he didn’t struggle.

That said looking at some of player VK is reportedly watching as defensive midfielders I can only presume he is thinking of playing Brownhill as a 10 as surely it would be hard to drop Cullen and Brownhill but I do understand the need for fresh legs for Cork

Ward Prowse plays in cm - Twine doesn't
Ward Prowse will probably leave Southampton for £20m plus - Twine won't bring such a fee if he left us this summer
There is no similarity in their games at all - apart from both being good free kick exponents

A central midfield pairing of Cullen and Brownhill will be too slow and lightweight to compete next season

[KRBFC]

Some fans angrily wrote off Jay and Barnes as well. Fans eh!

I mean it’s common sense, it’s way easier to form an opinion of a 30+ year old who has been here 8+ years as opposed to a young kid who has been here 2 minutes and been injured for most of it.

[Taffy on the wing]

It’s strange because I keep hearing people say he lacks the physicality but that was one of the things I was most surprised/impressed about last season. I thought he looked much bigger than he did pre-season, particularly towards the end of the season, and can’t remember him getting knocked off the ball or bullied once. Recall against Cardiff he chased a loose ball towards the Longside down, kept it in play, held two Cardiff players off and recovered the ball. Showed great determination and strength.

Interested to know when specifically he looked weak as I didn’t see it. Also think the PL is far more technical and that type of player is likely to look better in the PL.

I agree.......he looked much bigger & stronger. There's a good player in there i reckon.

[123EasyasBFC]

There’s an argument that the championship is more physical than the premier league, flair players get much more protection in the premier league than in the championship.

Almost used to feel like Burnley didn’t get a fair rub if the green in the prem because we where labelled with being physical, there were a number of times fouls and penalties didnt go our way

[Newcastleclaret93]

There’s an argument that the championship is more physical than the premier league, flair players get much more protection in the premier league than in the championship.

Almost used to feel like Burnley didn’t get a fair rub if the green in the prem because we where labelled with being physical, there were a number of times fouls and penalties didnt go our way

It’s a different kind of physical.

The premier league is dealing with much bigger and quicker players. They are elite level athletes.

[123EasyasBFC]

It’s a different kind of physical.

The premier league is dealing with much bigger and quicker players. They are elite level athletes.

Yes it’s different but many people are saying he needs to bulk up, I wouldn’t say bulking up is necessarily the problem with him for the prem.

Yes they are another level but players like Mahrez and foden for example doesn’t exactly look the strongest players in the league

[Guller Bull]

It’s a different kind of physical.

The premier league is dealing with much bigger and quicker players. They are elite level athletes.

Do you not feel that our players are or will be elite level?