Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by steve1264b » Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:09 pm

We seem to be following a pyramid model - we start with our ideal targets at the top, then if we miss out we work down to plan B then C. Far more structure than in the past.

What other model is there?

The one where we dont have a top target and move the down the list, perhaps linear?

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Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:10 pm

the annoying thing is Brighton will sell him in 2 years for 70 million, the model we are pursuing is the right one but we have to get them through the door for it to work!
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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:15 pm

fatboy47 wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2023 2:15 pm
I'm not convinced Verbruggen was ever a genuine target.

Our seeming involvement has certainly significantly upped the price that Anderlecht will receive.
I can assure you he was
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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Woodleyclaret » Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:17 pm

We need to be patient as lots of players are still on holiday
Last season we bought some quality bargains and this season won't be any different it just takes time.We set a very high bar in recruiting last season and our recruitment team will deliver again I have no doubt.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:28 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:15 pm
I can assure you he was
Surley only the club official's know

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:30 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:28 pm
Surley only the club official's know
As I said, I can assure you he was.
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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by NewClaret » Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:35 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:30 pm
As I said, I can assure you he was.
Was. :(

Take it your info is also that it’s off then, CT?

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:42 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:35 pm
Was. :(

Take it your info is also that it’s off then, CT?
In terms of where he’s going to go, I can only go off the recent info available and it does look as though Brighton are getting him.
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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:49 pm

On to the next one then

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by clarets12 » Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:50 pm

We should get some sort of fee as it looks like we're doing Brighton's scouting for them.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:52 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:30 pm
As I said, I can assure you he was.
Are you a club official

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Post by Pearcey » Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:53 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:52 pm
Are you a club official
Are you an agent?
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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:00 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:52 pm
Are you a club official
I’ll tell you what, probably best not posting what I know. Saves having to put up with this.
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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by clarethomer » Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:03 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:52 pm
Are you a club official
Everyone knows that CT isn't employed by the club so not sure why you are even asking the question?

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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:03 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:00 pm
I’ll tell you what, probably best not posting what I know. Saves having to put up with this.
Put up with what exactly, it was a simple question I'm curious because I don't know, if you can't or won't answer the question it's no big deal

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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:04 pm

Pearcey wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:53 pm
Are you an agent?
Of some sort yes

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by clarethomer » Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:05 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:00 pm
I’ll tell you what, probably best not posting what I know. Saves having to put up with this.
Fair play to you Tony. I don't know why people can't accept what you write at face value.

It's no wonder people get annoyed with this thread at times when we have arguments between posters and posters trying to get reactions from people like yourself.

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Post by Cooclaret » Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:12 pm

People belittle and pick on all those who are ‘in the know’ if they don’t immediately sell out their source. Lots of previous posters have gone quiet because of this, meaning a lot of valuable information doesn’t get posted.

There’s a WhatsApp group that is very much in the ‘know’ that’s more reliable than this board…

Twitter is what it is, people playing around fooling nobody and everybody all at the same time!

People seem to close ranks when it’s one of the ‘old guard’ but en massè throw in on anyone outside that circle.

It’s sometimes the way people write that gets under the skin, not so much the message but the manner. It could be seen as arrogant in my opinion. Each to their own mind…

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by mybloodisclaret » Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:15 pm

CT knows far more than most on here. His info tends to be a lot more accurate than others when he can share it.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by StayingDown4Ever » Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:18 pm

I don’t see why people are that desperate for scraps of info from people who claim they are in the know.

When we’ve signed someone, the club will announce it. Refreshing this page won’t make it happen any quicker.
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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Lancasterclaret » Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:19 pm

StayingDown4Ever wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:18 pm
I don’t see why people are that desperate for scraps of info from people who claim they are in the know.

When we’ve signed someone, the club will announce it. Refreshing this page won’t make it happen any quicker.
People don't have to be in the know to find stuff out, and most of signings appear on twitter before they appear on here

People tend to share that info on here so its still worth regularly refreshing for

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Terrier » Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:27 pm

Just been told we have signed the keeper from orient, any truth in this?

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Post by Cooclaret » Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:30 pm

Terrier wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:27 pm
Just been told we have signed the keeper from orient, any truth in this?
Seriously? :D

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Post by Terrier » Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:31 pm

:D Yes

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by ksrclaret » Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:34 pm

This summer is fast becoming reminiscent of the bad old days when we miss out on all our targets but do manage to sign a third choice keeper :D

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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:39 pm

Terrier wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:27 pm
Just been told we have signed the keeper from orient, any truth in this?
https://www.latercera.com/el-deportivo/ ... MP55GH7EQ/

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Post by Elizabeth » Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:41 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:00 pm
I’ll tell you what, probably best not posting what I know. Saves having to put up with this.
It is best you don't post what you know if that is how you feel.
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Post by Woodleyclaret » Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:41 pm

We once signed a keeper from Bristol City , he didn't turn out too shabby

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Post by bobinho » Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:41 pm

Has the window closed?

No?

Then we’ve missed out on nobody.

Yet…😉👍🏻

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Post by Bigvince » Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:42 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:34 pm
This summer is fast becoming reminiscent of the bad old days when we miss out on all our targets but do manage to sign a third choice keeper :D
I remember some people’s disappointment when we signed Nick pope, I guess we’ll just have to be patient, and trust the people in charge

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by ksrclaret » Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:43 pm

Knew it was a bad idea to post something jokey on here

Thought the smiley might give it away but not to be

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Post by Bigvince » Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:44 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:43 pm
Knew it was a bad idea to post something jokey on here

Thought the smiley might give it away but not to be
Apologies, I missed the joke.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Steddyman » Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:50 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:00 pm
I’ll tell you what, probably best not posting what I know. Saves having to put up with this.
I really don't get why people feel the need to have a go when you are doing exactly what they are begging for and providing concrete information on targets. Pathetic
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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:58 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:50 pm
I really don't get why people feel the need to have a go when you are doing exactly what they are begging for and providing concrete information on targets. Pathetic
Who's having a go ?

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Post by Steddyman » Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:14 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:58 pm
Who's having a go ?
Questioning if he is an Agent or Official and suggesting only those two categories could know the truth, is having a go.
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Post by mdd2 » Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:19 pm

FFS
We have a great MB c/o CT and I think Robbonand one two others
The MB needs to be kept in check my moderators that keeps this a functioning MB rather shut down for libel etc
It is bloody obvious that CT is st times in the know as even I have been in the past
At least when CT says something it is largely kosher and doesn’t need retracting
So let’s please back off with snide childish comments and enjoy a bloody good football MB thanks to the majority of the posters the mods etc
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Post by Nori1958 » Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:24 pm

mdd2 wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:19 pm
FFS
We have a great MB c/o CT and I think Robbonand one two others
The MB needs to be kept in check my moderators that keeps this a functioning MB rather shut down for libel etc
It is bloody obvious that CT is st times in the know as even I have been in the past
At least when CT says something it is largely kosher and doesn’t need retracting
So let’s please back off with snide childish comments and enjoy a bloody good football MB thanks to the majority of the posters the mods etc
I think I agree with you, but having read it 4 times iam still not 100 percent sure :lol: :lol:

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:25 pm

Anyone seen a figure quoted for the Royal Antwerp keeper?

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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:27 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:14 pm
Questioning if he is an Agent or Official and suggesting only those two categories could know the truth, is having a go.
I asked the simple question "Are you a club official" because I don't know, it certainly isn't having a go so put your bottom lip away, anyway back to Summer transfer window rumours, links and discussion.

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Post by Nori1958 » Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:29 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:27 pm
I asked the simple question "Are you a club official" because I don't know, it certainly isn't having a go so put your bottom lip away, anyway back to Summer transfer window rumours, links and discussion.
Over 2000 posts and you don't know who clarettony is...ok
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Post by Pearcey » Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:34 pm

Obafemi starting tonight.

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Post by NewClaret » Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:42 pm

Fabrizio saying Verbruggen is done:

https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/stat ... 5324075008

Not that I doubted it after this mornings update but now looks confirmed. Really gutted about that one after missing out last summer and now this one as well.

Not that I blame us for not getting involved in buying a keeper for €20m. Hope this isn’t a sign of things to come with all our targets…!

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Post by CharlieinNewMexico » Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:13 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:42 pm
Fabrizio saying Verbruggen is done:

https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/stat ... 5324075008

Not that I doubted it after this mornings update but now looks confirmed. Really gutted about that one after missing out last summer and now this one as well.

Not that I blame us for not getting involved in buying a keeper for €20m. Hope this isn’t a sign of things to come with all our targets…!
This is perhaps a classic example of the pros and cons of our new policy. Last season, if I remember correctly, we bid 3m for Bart (who had barely played a game) and they wanted 6ish (?) and we balked. Now, after 1 very good season, he’s gone for 20m.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:18 pm

CharlieinNewMexico wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:13 pm
This is perhaps a classic example of the pros and cons of our new policy. Last season, if I remember correctly, we bid 3m for Bart (who had barely played a game) and they wanted 6ish (?) and we balked. Now, after 1 very good season, he’s gone for 20m.
Last year was work permit issues wasn’t it? The rules have changed now but since then he’s had half a season as number 1 so price tag gone up
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Post by whiffa » Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:22 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:27 pm
I asked the simple question "Are you a club official" because I don't know, it certainly isn't having a go so put your bottom lip away, anyway back to Summer transfer window rumours, links and discussion.
I think you need to take a step back and consider how your posts are percieved by others on here, if CT comes out with some transfer info, why not just say "Ok thanks for letting us know, that's interesting" - there's a big difference between discussing potential incomings and just trying to get on his back when he's clearly just trying to give some insight to the messageboard who don't have the same connections.

He has a tendacy to tell us what he can, I'm not saying you have to agree with everyone and we all want to know more - that's the excitement of being a Burnley fan at the moment; but there's a time and a place. Comments like yours make the "posters in the know" feel uncomfortable coming forward when they get the opportunity. It's as simple as that. If it was a random new account who hadn't been on the board long, we'd all question it - but you've been around more than long enough to know who CT is, he's made posts himself before exclaiming at how his posts are jumped on and he feels he can't comment at times. You claim it was only a "simple question", but you knew exactly what you were doing.
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Post by NewClaret » Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:26 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:18 pm
Last year was work permit issues wasn’t it? The rules have changed now but since then he’s had half a season as number 1 so price tag gone up
From what I heard he didn’t get a WP after we agreed a fee.

Seems a shame to me that he’s not joining a manager/GK coach who tried to sign him last summer, signed him previously, etc…

But I suppose money talks!

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:31 pm

whiffa wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:22 pm
I think you need to take a step back and consider how your posts are percieved by others on here, if CT comes out with some transfer info, why not just say "Ok thanks for letting us know, that's interesting" - there's a big difference between discussing potential incomings and just trying to get on his back when he's clearly just trying to give some insight to the messageboard who don't have the same connections.

He has a tendacy to tell us what he can, I'm not saying you have to agree with everyone and we all want to know more - that's the excitement of being a Burnley fan at the moment; but there's a time and a place. Comments like yours make the "posters in the know" feel uncomfortable coming forward when they get the opportunity. It's as simple as that. If it was a random new account who hadn't been on the board long, we'd all question it - but you've been around more than long enough to know who CT is, he's made posts himself before exclaiming at how his posts are jumped on and he feels he can't comment at times. You claim it was only a "simple question", but you knew exactly what you were doing.
That's you opinion and you are entitled to it, you need to respect other's or what's the point of a discussion forum

I'll stick to "it was a genuine question" if you or other's don't think so then that's your problem not mine

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Post by BigChaCha » Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:34 pm

Brighton in for Verbrugge
Napoli in for Tresor
Villareal in for Butez

Can't say I'd be surprised if we missed out on all three!
I've said from the very beginning that there was absolutely zero chance of us signing Tresor!... Zilch, diddly squat, not in a million years!...

He will be signing for a far bigger and wealthier club than us.

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Post by Big Vinny K » Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:42 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:31 pm
That's you opinion and you are entitled to it, you need to respect other's or what's the point of a discussion forum

I'll stick to "it was a genuine question" if you or other's don't think so then that's your problem not mine
Are you seriously expecting people to believe that was a serious question ?
You think that someone who works at the club would post that he had some knowledge about a signing and put his job at risk ?

Rather than carry on digging yourself a hole it would have been far easier to just apologise.

In decades of supporting the team I think last season was the first time I was told something about a signing which was as reliable as it could possibly be and from the strongest source there could possibly be at the football club. It was about Beyer and the option we had to purchase him which was agreed when we first signed him on loan. I also got stick on here from a few posters for mentioning it and wish I wouldn’t have bothered either.

It’s a pretty weird reaction to start questioning someone like CT when most of us just see it as a positive sign knowing that there still exists the possibility that the signing might not happen.
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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by warksclaret » Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:47 pm

We need to appreciate we are fishing in a different pond now we are in the PL, so be prepared for some set backs as there are some very good anglers in this pond, with some very large budgets
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