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Re: Ashes Second Test

Post by taio » Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:07 pm

Stokes' self-belief is incredible

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Re: Ashes Second Test

Post by claretburns » Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:07 pm

Are we reliving Headlingley 2019?

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Re: Ashes Second Test

Post by RVclaret » Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:07 pm

Brilliant from Stokes

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Re: Ashes Second Test

Post by MrTopTier » Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:08 pm

Great knock from Stokes.

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Re: Ashes Second Test

Post by Buxtonclaret » Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:10 pm

Pure sporting drama.
Enthralling is this!

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Re: Ashes Second Test

Post by Buxtonclaret » Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:14 pm

50 partnership.
Broad scores 1 :D
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Re: Ashes Second Test

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:15 pm

Brilliant drama, England would have a chance if it wasn’t for the cheating (which I view exceptionally poor etiquette and sportsmanship to be). Technically in the rules but nobody does it.

Worse than diving in football for me, more akin to handling it into the net and claiming it was a header.

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Re: Ashes Second Test

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:17 pm

This has been brilliant from Stokes.

A mountain still to climb but you just never know if he stays given what we’ve seen before from him.

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Re: Ashes Second Test

Post by theduke » Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:17 pm

even the long room giving it to the Aussies!!

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Re: Ashes Second Test

Post by taio » Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:19 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:17 pm
This has been brilliant from Stokes.

A mountain still to climb but you just never know if he stays given what we’ve seen before from him.
He's been oustanding no matter what happens from here. His instinct to significantly up the pace at exactly the right time is impressive. His mental strength in these situations is unbelievable

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Post by 4:20 » Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:22 pm

Wow. What fantastic entertainment. What a performance from Ben Stokes.

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Re: Ashes Second Test

Post by Carwin261 » Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:22 pm

Mondsley wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 12:50 pm
Unbelievable from Bairstow. The crowd can boo all they like. But until the Umpire calls over and the ball is dead Carey is fully entitled to do what he did.
As Peter Kay would say “Get him in the thick table” dozy sod
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Re: Ashes Second Test

Post by Ampth7 » Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:25 pm

Bairstow = stupid

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Re: Ashes Second Test

Post by Robbie_painter » Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:25 pm

Not in the spirit of the game at all.Shocking from the Aussies.

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Re: Ashes Second Test

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:26 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 12:51 pm
Surely he was not attempting a run so if he was out he was stumped
He’s been given out stumped

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Re: Ashes Second Test

Post by Ampth7 » Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:28 pm

Imagine how many less runs we would have to get if half of our team hadn’t got out to the short ball in the first innings!

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Re: Ashes Second Test

Post by Ampth7 » Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:29 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:26 pm
He’s been given out stumped
Yep, stumped, not run out…… Bairstow should know better and he can’t hide behind the fans calling the Aussies cheats.

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Re: Ashes Second Test

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:31 pm

They say the ball wasn't dead, so why had both umpires turned away from the action?

It is out by the way, because the 3rd umpire has took over.

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Re: Ashes Second Test

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:32 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:31 pm
They say the ball wasn't dead, so why had both umpires turned away from the action?

It is out by the way, because the 3rd umpire has took over.
3rd umpire called because square leg requested it

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Post by CrosspoolClarets » Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:32 pm

What I find amazing is what feels like the entire commentary team feeling the dismissal was warranted (we all agree it was legit, but warranted is another matter), while the members clearly have a different view.

Bairstow being silly and Aussies being cheats can both be true.

Feels like professional sport is losing its etiquette, the money and glory is now so huge, we see it in golf with them negotiating free drops when it is obviously unfair, we see it in football, we see it in cricket. It’s simply a bad example for all our kids, for whom sport will probably be an evening pastime after a hard days work, to be done with a smile and good etiquette.
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Re: Ashes Second Test

Post by kentonclaret » Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:33 pm

Robbie_painter wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:25 pm
Not in the spirit of the game at all.Shocking from the Aussies.
W.G Grace must be turning in his grave :lol:

Where does all of this “a game played by gentlemen” nonsense come from?

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Re: Ashes Second Test

Post by alwaysaclaret » Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:34 pm

Ampth7 wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:25 pm
Bairstow = stupid
Perhaps he is, but no other team would have done that.
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Re: Ashes Second Test

Post by daveisaclaret » Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:35 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:32 pm
What I find amazing is what feels like the entire commentary team feeling the dismissal was warranted (we all agree it was legit, but warranted is another matter), while the members clearly have a different view.

Feels like professional sport is losing its etiquette, the money and glory is now so huge, we see it in golf with them negotiating free drops when it is obviously unfair, we see it in football, we see it in cricket. It’s simply a bad example for all our kids, for whom sport will probably be an evening pastime after a hard days work, to be done with a smile and good etiquette.
Sky showing the "example" of De Grandhomme getting out when he had literally set off for a run as if it was some kind of comparison to this was utterly bizarre. I can see why they might not want all their commentators saying "this match has been deeply impacted by bad behaviour" because it's a product they've got to sell but they shouldn't insult viewers' intelligence like that.

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Re: Ashes Second Test

Post by Les Lawrence » Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:35 pm

Thought Jonny scraped his boot in his crease to show he. was in . Typical Aussies though,reckon gonna be hostile for em at Headingley, especially Carey,Warner,gob shite Labershagne

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Re: Ashes Second Test

Post by JohnDearyMe » Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:36 pm

Mondsley wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 12:50 pm
Unbelievable from Bairstow. The crowd can boo all they like. But until the Umpire calls over and the ball is dead Carey is fully entitled to do what he did.
More braindead batting from England in this Test. Very sloppy

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Re: Ashes Second Test

Post by Clarets4me » Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:38 pm

The fact that both Umpires had turned away indicates that they regarded the ball as dead, appalling from the Australians ...
You'd think with the recent " Sandpaper " incident, they'd have more regard for the rules and spirit of the game but clearly not, and I go back to the " underarm " incident ...

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Re: Ashes Second Test

Post by Ampth7 » Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:38 pm

alwaysaclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:34 pm
Perhaps he is, but no other team would have done that.
Maybe, maybe not; the thing for me though was how quickly Bairstow was leaving his crease almost before the ball had hit the keepers gloves?!

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Re: Ashes Second Test

Post by warksclaret » Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:38 pm

If I was one of the early order batsmen (excluding Duckett), I would want to give Ben my match earnings

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Re: Ashes Second Test

Post by nil_desperandum » Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:39 pm

alwaysaclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:34 pm
Perhaps he is, but no other team would have done that.
I wouldn't bet on that.

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Re: Ashes Second Test

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:45 pm

I fully expect Broad to try and Mankad one of the Aussie openers first ball of the next Test.

The gloves are off now.

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Re: Ashes Second Test

Post by Ampth7 » Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:49 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:32 pm
What I find amazing is what feels like the entire commentary team feeling the dismissal was warranted (we all agree it was legit, but warranted is another matter), while the members clearly have a different view.

Bairstow being silly and Aussies being cheats can both be true.

Feels like professional sport is losing its etiquette, the money and glory is now so huge, we see it in golf with them negotiating free drops when it is obviously unfair, we see it in football, we see it in cricket. It’s simply a bad example for all our kids, for whom sport will probably be an evening pastime after a hard days work, to be done with a smile and good etiquette.
I think that this is a negative outcome of commercialised, professional sport that ultimately cultivates a win at all costs mentality. See performance enhancing drugs, gamesmanship, blatant cheating to win decisions/games; it won’t go back to what sport was initially created for, which isn’t all a bad thing.

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Re: Ashes Second Test

Post by Clarets4me » Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:49 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:39 pm
I wouldn't bet on that.
I can think of one major Test playing nation who would have done so, and it's not India ... ;)

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Re: Ashes Second Test

Post by Firthy » Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:52 pm

I guess your point of view depends if you're a sporting or win at any cost kind of person. It's nothing new in sport, we've seen it in many sports ie Maradona hand of god, Schumacher taking out Damon Hill etc.

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Re: Ashes Second Test

Post by alwaysaclaret » Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:55 pm

Les Lawrence wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:35 pm
Thought Jonny scraped his boot in his crease to show he. was in . Typical Aussies though,reckon gonna be hostile for em at Headingley, especially Carey,Warner,gob shite Labershagne
Was exactly what I thought, clearly put he's toe down to say I'm in my wicket, wasn't attempting a run, play over in my book, although very stupid against these cheats because they'll try everything.

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Re: Ashes Second Test

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:57 pm

There’s a God - Smith has dropped Stokes

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Re: Ashes Second Test

Post by MrTopTier » Sun Jul 02, 2023 2:01 pm

Phew

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Re: Ashes Second Test

Post by summitclaret » Sun Jul 02, 2023 2:02 pm

There's a 2 every ball atm, if they use their heads.

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Re: Ashes Second Test

Post by FCBurnley » Sun Jul 02, 2023 2:04 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:26 pm
He’s been given out stumped
Eventually

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Re: Ashes Second Test

Post by FCBurnley » Sun Jul 02, 2023 2:06 pm

White flag field from Aussies

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Re: Ashes Second Test

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Jul 02, 2023 2:09 pm

If stokes pulls this off he might have given me my top 3 cricketing moments

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Re: Ashes Second Test

Post by PremierLeagueClass » Sun Jul 02, 2023 2:15 pm

I do get the feeling sometimes that we as a nation are almost unique in how we attack our own. Whilst naive from Bairstow, it’s very poor sportsmanship.

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Re: Ashes Second Test

Post by Buxtonclaret » Sun Jul 02, 2023 2:16 pm

Aussie heads going here!

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Re: Ashes Second Test

Post by Taffy on the wing » Sun Jul 02, 2023 2:32 pm

Woke up at 6am expecting this to be over.........WOW!
Come on England.

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Re: Ashes Second Test

Post by Taffy on the wing » Sun Jul 02, 2023 2:34 pm

Stuart Broad has got some balls....getting pummeled.

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Re: Ashes Second Test

Post by ElectroClaret » Sun Jul 02, 2023 2:35 pm

Six.
Two sixes

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Re: Ashes Second Test

Post by ClaretDiver » Sun Jul 02, 2023 2:38 pm

Love Broadies pantomime!! Brilliantly getting into Carey’s head!
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Re: Ashes Second Test

Post by Taffy on the wing » Sun Jul 02, 2023 2:43 pm

How was that last green delivery not a wide?

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Re: Ashes Second Test

Post by MrTopTier » Sun Jul 02, 2023 2:45 pm

100 partnership. Broad 11

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Re: Ashes Second Test

Post by MrTopTier » Sun Jul 02, 2023 2:50 pm

Stokes 150, Awesome.

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Re: Ashes Second Test

Post by Spijed » Sun Jul 02, 2023 2:52 pm

daveisaclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2023 12:45 pm
This may sound bitter but if the Aussies don't want to play a sporting game of cricket we should simply stop playing them.
Just shows how different attitudes are to football. I'd say every supporter who watches Burnley couldn't care less about sportsmanship as long as we win.

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