Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 7:11 am

burnley007 wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 03, 2023 7:04 am
On the 'From the BeeHole End' podcast, they were suggesting VK may go to a back 3. Which would explain the Fascination with CBs

I just can’t see it personally, it would negate the effectiveness of our wingers which I personally see as our big strength next season.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 7:14 am

I think if VK decides to rely heavily on a back three, he already has the tools at his disposal. With the lads we have Beyer, Al dakhil, o Shea and Ekdal, and with the season McNally has just had at Cov, I reckon he’d go with that lot.

I think we need a really strong partner for Cullen in the middle. Lokonga interest is encouraging as VK and JC know him well. That should do for us all.

Anthonini · Post by **Anthonini** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 7:17 am

Nori1958 wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 03, 2023 5:05 am
Didn't start much for Palace in the prem though

That's the reason why he's possibly coming to Burnley. Otherwise they would or keep him at Arsenal or loan him out to crystal palace again or a higher ranked team.

He's not been used in the right way, and I think he's been treated unfairly after starting off very strongly at Arsenal, as soon as Xhaka was fit he didn't make the team again. I can understand he's ****** off about his lack of minutes. Never saw him function at crystal palace though. He'll do great for Burnley. Gem of a player. No doubts about him whatsoever.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 7:48 am

Certainly hope we have some movement incoming this week

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:02 am

Gut feeling only but I reckon we see three come in this week. Feels like we have a few closely set up now based on links (certainly Flemming, Lokonga and the young full back from Anderlecht) with just the final touches or slight upping of fees to be done.

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:27 am

jedi_master wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:02 am
Gut feeling only but I reckon we see three come in this week. Feels like we have a few closely set up now based on links (certainly Flemming, Lokonga and the young full back from Anderlecht) with just the final touches or slight upping of fees to be done.

Lets hope so Jedi-so they can get to know the squad and get bedded in

ArmchairDetective · Post by **ArmchairDetective** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 9:57 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 03, 2023 6:30 am
I think you will be surprised. Cullen will no doubt play a big part this season but I think VK wants more ability and physicality in that part of the pitch

I think Cullen's experience playing in this system will be vital, certainly in the early parts of the season as other players bed in. Last seasons squad has proven they deserve a crack in the PL. Change too much too early and we shoot ourselves in the foot.

Clive 1960 · Post by **Clive 1960** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 10:37 am

Fleming should be a claret if Millwall get what they want.

Flying Without Ings · Post by **Flying Without Ings** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 10:39 am

Collins to Brentford all but done - 23m. Do we get anything out of that with sell ons etc? (Sorry if already brought up somewhere else).

AGENT_CLARET · Post by **AGENT_CLARET** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 10:48 am

Flying Without Ings wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 03, 2023 10:39 am
Collins to Brentford all but done - 23m. Do we get anything out of that with sell ons etc? (Sorry if already brought up somewhere else).

About 600k

Cap · Post by **Cap** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:02 pm

https://twitter.com/sachatavolieri/stat ... lhjMQ&s=19

ervi34 · Post by **ervi34** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:03 pm

Verbruggen confirmed at Brighton.

Union SG are interested in Sadiki and are the likeliest destination for him at the moment.

ClaretInLeeds · Post by **ClaretInLeeds** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:03 pm

Beat to link it, because I don’t have a clue how to interpret the tweet

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:26 pm

Here we go !!!

https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/stat ... dN8kw&s=19

ervi34 · Post by **ervi34** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:28 pm

We are spending 15 million on a player with 1 senior appearance who plays in a position we are already stacked on?

By the way, I really think this indicates that Kompany could play with 3 CB's in certain games.

claretlegend · Post by **claretlegend** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:29 pm

€15 after his loan. Let's hope he's good! Beyer 2.0?

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:29 pm

claretandy wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:26 pm
Here we go !!!

https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/stat ... dN8kw&s=19

So either 3 at the back is on the cards or O’Shea has been brought in primarily as a right back (?)

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:29 pm

How bizarre

We’re definitely going 3 at the back Man City style

nyclaret · Post by **nyclaret** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:31 pm

Beyer
Ekdal
Al-Dakhil
O'Shea
Coulibaly
McNally?

We're playing 3 at the back surely next season...

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:32 pm

Wow that is some cheddar. Got to think he’s going to start if we are paying that much

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:33 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:32 pm
Wow that is some cheddar. Got to think he’s going to start if we are paying that much

The payment will be next summer but yeah

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:34 pm

15m Euros total fee, that will include the loan fee.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:37 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:33 pm
The payment will be next summer but yeah

Yes got to think that he’s almost a certain starter at that kind of fee.

Completely changed my starting eleven now if they all come off:

Muric
Coulibaly, Ekdal, Beyer
Roberts, Vrankx, Lokonga, Maatsen
Benson, Foster, Zaroury

Wonder where Flemming would play if we sign him. Left wing?

TopCat · Post by **TopCat** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:37 pm

No idea how good he is.
Would we better off going for THB?
City willing to sell I believe for a similar price?

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:37 pm

ksrclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:29 pm
How bizarre

We’re definitely going 3 at the back Man City style

Was thinking something like this. Playing the big guys at ‘full back’ like Pep did this season with Ake and Stones.

PictoPirate · Post by **PictoPirate** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:37 pm

Twitter is not loading for some of us. Damn Elon and his 'improvements'... Can someone screenshot it please?

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:40 pm

This makes little sense, even if we are clearly going to be selling McNally

It is looking like three CHs isn't it?

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:42 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:37 pm
Was thinking something like this. Playing the big guys at ‘full back’ like Pep did this season with Ake and Stones.

Yep. I’ve seen a couple of interviews with VK since promotion in which he’s referenced the power and athleticism in the PL and how nobody outmuscles City.

He knows what’s required next season, be interesting to see how it all comes together

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:43 pm

Can people start posting screenshots to Twitter links as it isn’t letting me view any tweets as I don’t have Twitter. It’s only recently started doing this guessing it’s to do with the issues Twitter have been having.

Sheedyclaret · Post by **Sheedyclaret** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:43 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:37 pm
Yes got to think that he’s almost a certain starter at that kind of fee.

Completely changed my starting eleven now if they all come off:

Muric
Coulibaly, Ekdal, Beyer
Roberts, Vrankx, Lokonga, Maatsen
Benson, Foster, Zaroury

Wonder where Flemming would play if we sign him. Left wing?

No Cullen

claretcarrot93 · Post by **claretcarrot93** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:44 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:40 pm
This makes little sense, even if we are clearly going to be selling McNally

It is looking like three CHs isn't it?

Not long till the Beyer in midfield posts start now. Ala Tarks

AGENT_CLARET · Post by **AGENT_CLARET** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:46 pm

Sheedyclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:43 pm
No Cullen

More like no Maatsen at the price Chelsea are asking

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:47 pm

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AGENT_CLARET · Post by **AGENT_CLARET** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:48 pm

I hope we aren't going 3 at the back we'll get murdered each week, we ain't Man City

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:48 pm

Sheedyclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:43 pm
No Cullen

It’s just a theory on the back of what KSR has just posted.

VK has mentioned a few times how important physicality is in the prem.

I suspect the potential signings of Vrankx and Lokonga will go straight into the starting eleven to beef up the midfield.

bumba · Post by **bumba** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:49 pm

Wouldn't be surprised if McNally and Ekdal were sold or loaned out, Ekdal was great but personally think he will really struggle with his lack of pace in the prem.
Other option could be Beyer playing at right back he's tailor made for the way Pep uses them

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:49 pm

claretcarrot93 wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:44 pm
Not long till the Beyer in midfield posts start now. Ala Tarks

I have to admit to seeing the news and thinking "Beyer could play in midfield"

I must need more coffee!

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:50 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:46 pm
More like no Maatsen at the price Chelsea are asking

Could be a loan?

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:50 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:49 pm
I have to admit to seeing the news and thinking "Beyer could play in midfield"

I must need more coffee!

John stones has played there in this potential set up

AGENT_CLARET · Post by **AGENT_CLARET** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:52 pm

bumba wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:49 pm
Wouldn't be surprised if McNally and Ekdal were sold or loaned out, Ekdal was great but personally think he will really struggle with his lack of pace in the prem.
Other option could be Beyer playing at right back he's tailor made for the way Pep uses them

Not a chance Ekdal will be sold

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:53 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:50 pm
John stones has played there in this potential set up

If Beyer turns into the next John Stones then no one is going to complain!

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:55 pm

bumba wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:49 pm
Wouldn't be surprised if McNally and Ekdal were sold or loaned out, Ekdal was great but personally think he will really struggle with his lack of pace in the prem.
Other option could be Beyer playing at right back he's tailor made for the way Pep uses them

I do get what you’re saying but I see Ekdal thriving in a back 3. I think his out and our defensive qualities make him almost a must in a back 3

claretrobo1 · Post by **claretrobo1** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:56 pm

claretcarrot93 wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:44 pm
Not long till the Beyer in midfield posts start now. Ala Tarks

I think we could see one of our CB's playing the 'John Stones role'. Playing left back when out of position but alongside Cullen in possession. Time will tell!

That'll most likely need a left footer playing that role though!

nyclaret · Post by **nyclaret** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:59 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:37 pm
Yes got to think that he’s almost a certain starter at that kind of fee.

Completely changed my starting eleven now if they all come off:

Muric
Coulibaly, Ekdal, Beyer
Roberts, Vrankx, Lokonga, Maatsen
Benson, Foster, Zaroury

Wonder where Flemming would play if we sign him. Left wing?

Coulibaly is left footed

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:59 pm

claretandy wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:34 pm
15m Euros total fee, that will include the loan fee.

And performance based extras.

For a player that young I bet the initial payment is loan fee of €x then in a year €5m-€10m with the rest possible extras and a €15m total package.

Also, I expect some further improvements in the Euro exchange rate which will make it seem better in Sterling by the time we pay our bit.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 2:01 pm

nyclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:59 pm
Coulibaly is left footed

He probably is, I am just going of what it says he is position was for Dortmund 2.

It said of the 25 games he played almost all at RCB

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 2:03 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:48 pm
I hope we aren't going 3 at the back we'll get murdered each week, we ain't Man City

We played one at the back most of last season.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 2:03 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:32 pm
Wow that is some cheddar.

Surely you know the basic principle of premier league transfers is that they all start with a 1

Rouwens_Weapon · Post by **Rouwens_Weapon** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 2:03 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:48 pm
It’s just a theory on the back of what KSR has just posted.

VK has mentioned a few times how important physicality is in the prem.

I suspect the potential signings of Vrankx and Lokonga will go straight into the starting eleven to beef up the midfield.

Agree physicality is important, but he was our player of the year and pivotal for the style of football we played. Unless the style of play has a drastic change, he needs to be one of the first names on the teamsheet for me.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Mon Jul 03, 2023 2:04 pm

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 03, 2023 2:03 pm
Surely you know the basic principle of premier league transfers is that they all start with a 1

Haha I know they do for championship teams. But I honestly thought this lad was going to be a hidden gem type.

For that fee he must have some pedigree behind him.