Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

[GetIntoEm]

Great entertainment.

Just needs grown men crying cos they haven't seen this year's kit yet

[Pickles]

The thing about this "link-up play" is that whoever is providing the link is then required to be making haste to an area where he may get a shot at goal.

Maybe, but it worked last season. Rodriguez and Barnes dropped deep, their primary role was to make space for, mainly, Tella. That's Weghorst's game.

[Cooclaret]

I’m not expecting our striker to get 15 but I would expect a striker to get at least 7-8 for us next season.

Not sure Weghorst gets remotely close to that total.

But this is a new system with some creative players, so I guess we will just have to wait and see. VK must think he has something if he’s willing to give him a chance. I do worry about his reception though, not sure there’s been many Burnley players in the past with such a poor reputation with the fans

50p he does if he stays?

[CrosspoolClarets]

On the plus side Barnes is equally slow but did well for us last season and Gabriel Jesus at City had worse than a 1 in 3 record in his last couple of seasons (albeit some off the bench) so this backs up goals not being the critical factor given how many City score.

Vincent knows best I reckon. He missed some chances for United but also that bunch of elitists hardly passed to him at times, he may get on far better here.

[boatshed bill]

Maybe, but it worked last season. Rodriguez and Barnes dropped deep, their primary role was to make space for, mainly, Tella. That's Weghorst's game.

Yes, it didn't work out too badly.
I reckon that had JR stayed fit he'd have got into double figures.
I doubt Weghorst would have managed that... too slow.

[RVclaret]

Great entertainment.

Just needs grown men crying cos they haven't seen this year's kit yet

[Spiral]

Vincent knows best I reckon. He missed some chances for United but also that bunch of elitists hardly passed to him at times, he may get on far better here.

If elite players choose not to pass to him I'm taking that as a warning sign.

[Newcastleclaret93]

On the plus side Barnes is equally slow but did well for us last season and Gabriel Jesus at City had worse than a 1 in 3 record in his last couple of seasons (albeit some off the bench) so this backs up goals not being the critical factor given how many City score.

Vincent knows best I reckon. He missed some chances for United but also that bunch of elitists hardly passed to him at times, he may get on far better here.

Not the best example there haha, pep used to literally not start a striker over playing him.

Talksport highlighted it the other day, Jesus got so upset he called his mum crying because Pep preferred to play Zinchenco as a striker than him in a big game.

The main reason being he wasn’t clinical enough

[willsclarets]

His record in the prem is w@nk. He had the equivalent of a full season in England as a striker and scored a grand total of two goals, and half of that time with a team that finished third.

Which is why I said I think he'll surprise. He's not had a great time of it recently, but he's proven he can get goals. Strikers need a bit of luck and a run of form. See Crouch at liverpool, awful start. Written off as a donkey. No reason Wout can't get 10+ if hes enjoying his football and hits the ground running.

[martin_p]

If he’s made up with the squad and Kompany has got him fully on board then that suits me. My main concern was him fitting back in with the team but I trust Kompany as a man manager. From a stylistic perspective I think it’s a good fit for what he wants from a striker in our system and if it saves us money to buy someone like Mikautadze to play off him I’m all for it.

Trouble is he needs to make up with the supporters. He has zero credit in the bank and unless he hits the ground running then lots will be on his back.

[Spiral]

I think Vinny likes a traditional striker in the team, even if positionally they are playing as a flase 9. He played Jay or Barnes whenever either were available, despite the possibility of putting Tella, our best finisher, up front as a false 9. Vinny likes physicality up front. Wout is big, but he doesn't do a lot with his size. It's obvious to highlight that he can't head a ball, but I also don't see him winning a lot of non-aerial physical duels, either.

[Boxy]

I know he's a bit of a laughing stock with his united tenor but he was never a united player.

Hes great at holding the ball up, playing wide and attacking midfielders into the higher 3rd. If he can contribute some goals , and act as that attacking force I'm happy. Would provide 10x the quality Barnes did

[Spiral]

Which is why I said I think he'll surprise. He's not had a great time of it recently, but he's proven he can get goals. Strikers need a bit of luck and a run of form. See Crouch at liverpool, awful start. Written off as a donkey. No reason Wout can't get 10+ if hes enjoying his football and hits the ground running.

I'd love for you to be right, and I hope you are.

[Vegas Claret]

I’d agree, if I was basing it on everything but his performances. These opinions are based on his performances and my observations…

I could say I don’t like his hair, and his eyes are too close together…

That would be irrational

I would agree he was poor pre-world cup, but if you are suggesting he was anything other than the opposite of that after the World Cup then I'd politely question if you took a sleeping bag and a pillow to the games ?

edit: I assume you were still talking about Roberts ?!

[DCWat]

If it was the choice of having Wout or having 7 or 8 million for the sale of Wout, it’d be the latter.

[Spiral]

Play Muric up front, I'm not even joking.

[Vegas Claret]

Play Muric up front, I'm not even joking.

I'd say he passes the ball better than a good few of the players we had the last time we were in the PL ! Not sure he can finish though

[Spiral]

Doesn't need to be able to finish if he links up well. What's good enough for Wout is good enough for big Aro.

[Conroy92]

I am happy to give him the benefit of the doubt but I really struggle to see how he scores us the goals we need next season.

I expected us to play a lot more on the counter attack

We are no longer a team that relies on the goals of one striker. When Vincent came he spoke of goals coming from all over the field. I'd be surprised if one of the wide forwards/players don't end up top scorers for us again.

[Ric_C]

I don't want to watch that lumbering walking ego play for us next season. The negatives far outweigh the positives

[TsarBomba]

We already have a striker that links up play well, but struggles to hit the back of the net.

Not sure we need a second one.

But I’ll be behind Weghorst all the same if he does stay with us. VK knows what he’s doing.

[Stproc]

Well I suppose that stopped all the talk about last years players all being crap / pony & all the potential signings being garbage / over-priced.
WW has his uses it appears.

[Burnley1989]

Great entertainment.

Just needs grown men crying cos they haven't seen this year's kit yet

If you’re going to find them anywhere it will be on this thread or Twitter
The type that sign up to trip advisor just to complain after every holiday or meal out

[TPClaret]

If Weghorst is coming back, where is he? Into 2nd week of pre season and no sign of him! All the other players are back now.

[RVclaret]

If Weghorst is coming back, where is he? Into 2nd week of pre season and no sign of him! All the other players are back now.

His season finished 3 weeks later than all the other players.

[Rick_Muller]

I’m not expecting our striker to get 15 but I would expect a striker to get at least 7-8 for us next season.

Not sure Weghorst gets remotely close to that total.

But this is a new system with some creative players, so I guess we will just have to wait and see. VK must think he has something if he’s willing to give him a chance. I do worry about his reception though, not sure there’s been many Burnley players in the past with such a poor reputation with the fans

Wout may just thrive on the pantomime villain some fans portray him as - may well be the impetus for him to succeed with us

[Newcastleclaret93]

After sleeping on it, I just can’t help feeling a bit disappointed with Weghorst staying. I really expected us to be having better up front this season.

On the plus side I guess it frees up money for a top centre mid

[ClaretAL]

Or it all may be a smoke screen to get others to come an buy rather than ask for a loan.

[AGENT_CLARET]

Play Muric up front, I'm not even joking.

He'd make a cracking CDM

[AGENT_CLARET]

How can anyone not want Weghorst back, he's got more honours in English football than Harry Kane

[StayingDown4Ever]

Play Muric up front, I'm not even joking.

I think I’d prefer him to pony Foster

[Anthonini]

I can understand alot of fans are disliking him because he didn't want to play in the championship and chose to stay at top level. Other than that he's just a skillful well educated striker. If Then Hag wants him for Manchester United then he must be capable and rated highly. Also Van Gaal rates him in the Dutch national team.

A guy than can easily score a goal and puts high pressure on the defenders. Team player who is strong in link up play, one touch football. Knows where to run. Can score a header from crosses.

He'll do well under Vincent Kompany and I have no doubt that another striker will come to compete with him. If you spend 19m on a goalkeeper you definitely have some money to spend on a top striker. I'd like to see Origi or Zirkzee join us. Assuming Nmecha is too expensive.

[eastcoastclaret]

I can understand alot of fans are disliking him because he didn't want to play in the championship and chose to stay at top level. Other than that he's just a skillful well educated striker. If Then Hag wants him for Manchester United then he must be capable and rated highly. Also Van Gaal rates him in the Dutch national team.

A guy than can easily score a goal and puts high pressure on the defenders. Team player who is strong in link up play, one touch football. Knows where to run. Can score a header from crosses.

He'll do well under Vincent Kompany and I have no doubt that another striker will come to compete with him. If you spend 19m on a goalkeeper you definitely have some money to spend on a top striker. I'd like to see Origi or Zirkzee join us. Assuming Nmecha is too expensive.

Unfortunately there are far too many hot headed Burnley fans who jump to conclusions, and won't give him a chance.

[Newcastleclaret93]

THB available for 15m

West Ham and Fulham interested. Be surprised if we aren’t interested at that price

[AGENT_CLARET]

THB available for 15m

West Ham and Fulham interested. Be surprised if we aren’t interested at that price

With the sort of money we're paying out at the moment for untried players 25m for THB is cheap, get him and Palmer in for a 30m deal for both

[martin_p]

I can understand alot of fans are disliking him because he didn't want to play in the championship and chose to stay at top level. Other than that he's just a skillful well educated striker. If Then Hag wants him for Manchester United then he must be capable and rated highly. Also Van Gaal rates him in the Dutch national team.

A guy than can easily score a goal and puts high pressure on the defenders. Team player who is strong in link up play, one touch football. Knows where to run. Can score a header from crosses.

He'll do well under Vincent Kompany and I have no doubt that another striker will come to compete with him. If you spend 19m on a goalkeeper you definitely have some money to spend on a top striker. I'd like to see Origi or Zirkzee join us. Assuming Nmecha is too expensive.

Ten Hag doesn’t want him for Man United, that’s why we’ve got him back.

[RVclaret]

THB available for 15m

West Ham and Fulham interested. Be surprised if we aren’t interested at that price

I’d be surprised if we are interested now we’ve bought O’Shea and loaned Coulibaly. 15m is still a large cut from our budget this summer. Hence loaning Coulibaly and paying next summer. Al-Dakhil for 3.5m is looking more and more of a bargain every day that goes by.

[Newcastleclaret93]

I’d be surprised if we are interested now we’ve bought O’Shea and loaned Coulibaly. 15m is still a large cut from our budget this summer. Hence loaning Coulibaly and paying next summer. Al-Dakhil for 3.5m is looking more and more of a bargain every day that goes by.

Depends I could see them selling Ekdal and McNally if there was a chance to sign THB.

From a business perspective it makes sense. Colwill is valued at 50m by Chelsea after 1 good season. Geuhi 60m after 2 good seasons.

They could triple there money on THB in 12 months

[warksclaret]

At £15m that's great value for Howard Bellis. He has experience, leadership skills and is a great "team" man as he showed for us. He will get much better too within the next 2-3 years.To put it in perspective I thought Collins was a good buy for us at £15m-ish. He will sell quickly at this price. A back three of Beyer/THB/Al-Dakhill in the Prem would be very respectable, with O'Shea , Coulibally and Ekdal providing cover

[dermotdermot]

Back to transfers

Will Lancaster:

Understand Wout Weghorst is focused on playing for Burnley next season.

Told striker has settled score with squad after turbulent relations and is determined to make the difference for Vincent Kompany. Exit not ruled out but huge step in right direction. #twitterclarets #MUFC

I’m going back to sleep When I awake, I will realize that this was just a bad dream.

[TsarBomba]

Depends I could see them selling Ekdal and McNally if there was a chance to sign THB.

From a business perspective it makes sense. Colwill is valued at 50m by Chelsea after 1 good season. Geuhi 60m after 2 good seasons.

They could triple there money on THB in 12 months

Really hope we don’t sell Ekdal.

Our best run of form after Xmas coincided with Ekdal being in the first 11.

[Rick_Muller]

Back to transfers

Will Lancaster:

Understand Wout Weghorst is focused on playing for Burnley next season.

Told striker has settled score with squad after turbulent relations and is determined to make the difference for Vincent Kompany. Exit not ruled out but huge step in right direction. #twitterclarets #MUFC

It'll be like a new signing..

[dsr]

Really hope we don’t sell Ekdal.

Our best run of form after Xmas coincided with Ekdal being in the first 11.

Not quite. Our best run of form was from the Blackburn game just before the World Cup, when we won 10 in a row; Ekdal played in the last 2 of them. We won 6 and drew 3 of his matches, conceding 3 goals, so there's no doubt he was good.

[Lancasterclaret]

Ekdal looks a player as well, and he's what, 24?

I don't want him to go, even though the only speculation I can see about him leaving is on here

[Firthy]

It'll be like a new signing..

He was a new signing when we first bought him and look how that turned out

[Firthy]

Ekdal looks a player as well, and he's what, 24?

I don't want him to go, even though the only speculation I can see about him leaving is on here

Because people like to make stuff up to fit in with THB coming back on loan. Neither will happen IMO.

[Selby Claret]

Playing devils advocate, if THB is available for 15m and yet we’ve gone for the untested Coulibaly, could it be that VK saw enough last season to NOT be interested in THB….? -

Seems odd also that he would plump for O’Shea instead - unless THBs availability has only just materialised of course and now VK is banging his head against a wall!

[Hedontplayforyou]

Or…VK wants the best squad possible and gets him anyway. No way Vincent Kompany aims to finish a season in 17th place. He will be aiming high. He’s a winner. He wants players who are winners.

We may well bring in THB, but we may not. Looks like we have our contingent now but you don’t know what system he wants to go with or who he sees e in which roles.

Mcnally is sure to leave this window along with Thomas . Which still give us 5 to chose from so you’d have to say it’s unlikely but I trust that they have a plan either way .

[Elizabeth]

At this stage of the transfer window I’m relaxed with the idea of letting Weghorst settle in with a different management regime and broad set of new players.

I don’t think there will be a great demand for him from other clubs and if this is the case it will obviously reduce the likelihood of him leaving.

As fans we don’t know the unknowns going on and can only take at face value what we do know.

Personally I hope it all works out and if it does come that Weghorst plays for us next season it will tell me all has been resolved and then will come down to his performances on the field.

Some fans still believe in him and I hope that trust is rewarded.

[NewClaret]

Playing devils advocate, if THB is available for 15m and yet we’ve gone for the untested Coulibaly, could it be that VK saw enough last season to NOT be interested in THB….? -

Seems odd also that he would plump for O’Shea instead - unless THBs availability has only just materialised of course and now VK is banging his head against a wall!

I imagine we wouldn’t have gone for O’Shea if there were any chance that THB would come to us. Most likely just that he has offers from bigger clubs?